₦airaland Forum

Jimmyo3:
Woe unto to those who don't believe in ancestral curses or spirituality for even the very SCIENCE which you embrace has agreed in accordance and proved beyond doubt that spirituality is real. And that activities in the spiritual realm affects our physical reality in one way or the order because whatever takes form and manifest as physical evidence have existed in the spiritual realm..... This is what SCIENCE says and not me.Woe unto to those who don't believe in ancestral curses or spirituality for even the very SCIENCE which you embrace has agreed in accordance and proved beyond doubt that spirituality is real. And that activities in the spiritual realm affects our physical reality in one way or the order because whatever takes form and manifest as physical evidence have existed in the spiritual realm..... This is what SCIENCE says and not me.

We are having a rational conversation here and suddenly you bring in your brand of negativity with your distasteful habits of 'woe unto you' to people you dont even know.
If you have claims that science has seen spirits, please bring verifiable evidence or links here. It is not by writing 'science' in capital letters and making claims, insulting everyones intelligence in a bid to ram it down our throats. We can't be hoodwinked, we werent educated for nothing.
Everybody is entitled to believe what they want. Learnt to tolerate other people's views as we tolerate yours

Pidgin2:
It's 100% real. There are people who have tried everything to excel in life but their efforts are futile as soon as yokes are broken that person's life changes for good. I have seen a prostitute who abandoned her child from childbirth. The child never knew her mother and she grew up in an environment where the other kids graduated from school and became successful people whereas she ended up being a prostitute taking children without fathers to their house like her mother did

What of children whose father died as a thief, the boys also took after their dad despite not growing up under him.

Whatever you do has consequences of the lives of your kids.

Genetics has a wide role to play in mentally and intelligence, both good things and bad things emanate from it. Some genetic aberrations predispose to criminal tendencies. The environment only modifies or enhances traits you already carry. The right environment may prevent some from manifesting. Some things have been so ingrained in our genes and chromosomes that they are now called natural instincts.
If you isolate a male and female on an island from birth, they will still know how to feed, defend themselves, shag and produce kids. Are those generational curses too?

hoodboy:
Let me share my something i personally experienced for your sake.

In my family lineage, no person gave birth to more than three boys, this dates back to my great grand fathers, My grand father had two brothers, and each of them gave birth to only 3 sons, and each of the three sons gave birth to only 3 sons as well (i was among the 3sons of my dad).

On quick glance, you might not think much of the situation, my dad had 4 children, 3 boys and a girl, quite perfect family size. But on a faithful day in church, a guest minister was praying against ancestral curses and asked anyone who felt he had such ties to come out for prayers, at first my dad didn't come out, but when he realised "the 3 son issue" he quickly jumped out, was about the last person to come out (his own account). He prayed for that curse to be broken, and later that year my mum got pregnant, 8 years after she had hung her boots.

The warfare that surrounded that pregnancy wasn't funny, things became very tight financially so hard that when my mum was due for delivery, we weren't even able to buy any of the required things. the first thing that came was a baby bath, which our family friend brought to the house. God is always one step ahead, my mom's brother came back to Nigeria just as my brother was conceived and everything my brother used during his first months, from diapers to powder to clothes, he brought with him from america.

Just as if he knew he came during trying times, the boy would never ever cried for food for one day, secondly he didn't ever eat up to one bowl of cereal or any of the baby foods, we tried everything but he just couldn't eat it, the only thing that would go in and stay in was 'Ogi baba' and that is what he was weaned on.

After the birth of my brother, extended families that had been suck with 3 boys started to give birth to more than 3 boys, four years after my brother we had our last brother.

Ancestral curses, agreement, bondage are real.

Hogwash and old wives tales.
Go and read about genetics and probabilities... i dont know when giving birth to 3 sons became an issue? We are 3 sons in my family, several of my extended family members have 3 sons, my sis has 3 sons but i never went about blaming my ancestors.
Sex selection has to do with the male spermatozoa which can be x or y meeting the ovum to produce either xx (female) or xy (male). Maybe the proportion of 'y' spermatozoa is much more than 'x' in the males and bros, all na chance and God.
Thank God you guys are bearing kids self and that their is no case of infertility.

Phi001:
Really?
Considering it's my family I'm talking about, I'm quite certain I know what I'm talking about.
Curse was meant for firstborn males. They usually died at 49. The closest one of them reached was 49.5 then suddenly he died.


Thankfully, the curse got broken with my dad. Man's a solid pastor. I know how many accidents he had in the final six months before he reached 50.
He's 58 now.

I know a family that their kids were dying in their 30s... luckily they had money and didnt believe in voodoo. Autopsy and the right tests revealed they had familial hypercholesterolaemia which was shutting their hearts down early and guess what? It can be controlled.
Some of these diseases can skip individuals or generations or may not be fully expressed in some individuals in the family- check or google penetrance and expressivity in genetics. Maybe your dad is the lucky one.
Weird things do certainly happen in 0.001% of cases, but most often than not, there is a rational explainable cause

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Phi001:
The part about people in a family dying at a certain age for non-genetic reasons, I've experienced personally.

they havent looked well, there are millions of familial diseases.
sickle cell people were once called ogbanje but we know better

Jeromejnr:
So to you everything is left in God's hands??.

I guess if God has wriiten in a book concerning you that you will be a billionaire by 2017, you can just fold your hands and sleep till then.

Dear God! The ignorance and faithlessness in this generation.

Read my text well and my previous replies on this thread, i dont believe in folding my hands like your hero the thread opener... what i emphasize is doing all that you can, working hard, doing your part and allowing God to bother about his own work for you. Has God ever spoken to you directly?
Nobody knows His plans but if he actually utters that small i will be a billionaire in 2017, nothing can ever stop that.
I don't believe in this ancestral curse and other mumbo jumbos... i believe in people hustling, living their lives and sorting out problems with their God given intellect.

Earthkumy:
when i read some comments is obvious that many do not read before commenting, they will just see topic and rush in and start's commenting out of point, i don't know if it is out of intellectual laziness or over zealouness.

You my friend are the lazy one, blaming your woes on some mumbo jumbo... please go and read and enlighten yourself so that your kids don't die from your ignorance. It has nothing to do with God when you keep knocking on his door for answers that are around you clogging up the prayer network. Malaria drug go dey, una go dey disturb the One that made it possible for the drug to be discovered. Help yourselves first and God will come in. Besides that, we are not all meant to succeed in our endeavours, live till 100, marry, have kids etc... everything is left in God's hand and such write ups show how much little faith you have in Him.
keep sitting on your ass and blaming witches and wizards for your lack of hustle, luck or what God has decided is your portion to bear

Gift101:
So the situation whereby a family has brainliant children but none of them has ever graduated from the university is Genetic right ?

'Brainliant' ?? ... no wonder they are not making it. Brilliance, smartness or genius, whatever you call it, is just 1% of what is needed to excel, you have to put in remaining 99% into perspiring to succeed eg reading, hustling, networking etc
You have to put in work, many are talented but few become famous... is it from village curses too? Means before you come for the voice or project fame, you should visit your village

Wow... great news!!

saintmark88:
Okay.... Proffer your own solution den??

Like i said, they seem to be experimenting... they should seek counsel from experts, people who have experience with handling recession and such problems and know how to stimulate an economy

Orikinla:
I beg stop insulting our government.
I beg chop hot roasted corn and coconut.

Hehehehehe... ok nah

Olodo people and dumb government... why cant the government buy up grains and store them in silos or reserves? Smh... they should be crucified for even releasing this self indicting news

saintmark88:
But wen d economy fails u dnt blame d law enforcement agencies, u blame d CBN, d minister of finance and d president.... So let them do what they want to do..... We can't restrict dem from trying all d strategies dey want to use ND yet still blame dem wen tins aren't improving... I dnt see the sense in that.

My problem is their so called moves have actually worsened things... each time they want more to experiment with till we are all locked in and cant buy a ticket to leave the country

selfemployed:
you may be correct if you say the Government should ask for help. maybe in terms of bond or anything. But imagine the effect on the economy if the likes of Dangote and all other rich nigerians hoard their dollars in the banks? won't it be better the money is put to use in the economy? Maybe thats why some countries tax money deposited in banks. and company owners pay less tax

The help i meant was from better heads or experts... not this patch and patch trial and error. Domiciliary accounts operate like extreme current accounts, they charge your for withdrawal, deposit and to and fro transfers. What else do they want to charge? This is just a move to make more money for nigerians banks. People bring money to banks for safe keeping and benefits, not to be robbed. We may be heading back to the days of hiding money under mattress

saintmark88:
Valid points u made there, but the point is there is no law that restricts dese guys from moving forex out of the country and it doesn't make sense. So if CBN has their way to enact this law, r u saying all d foreign investors in Nigeria will fold up, the ansa is NO.... Who ever wants to go will go, nd who is willing to abide by d rules will come

You are only looking at it from one angle, do u c any positivity in d move atal??

I understand your argument and angle too but I have a feeling this new move is just to have all out power to restrict funds movement. We must always ask questions and not trust this people completely before they enslave us under their own noses while their kids frolic with the forex. One thing is for sure, this law will affect poor you and me who need to transfer small funds for transactions than the intended culprits. And i insist, if the already existing laws are enforced to the letter, there will be no need for further draconian moves.

saintmark88:
This is what I just complained of in the Huawei post, wen d govt wants to check d excesses of these investors, Nigerians like u will rise to their defence. It's not a must tht foreign investors must invest n our country, if these investors can't treat us with d respect tht we deserve and abide by our rules.. Then they should go to hell!!!.. What kind of slave mentality r u displaying here... U will complain that D Chinese, d Isrealis, d Indians r ripping us off, evading taxes, repatriating funds to their country n instead of kipn D money here to boost our own economy

Of wht use is d foreign investors, if all they come to do is hire Nigerians as contract staff n pay us peanuts, mKe all d profits nd repatriated the funds to their country nd ur here talking rubbish

Use ur brain for once, forget sentiment....lets all push for what is right

Stop attacking ordinary people that suffer under the injustice of these weird new laws... face the government that have refused to enforce already existing laws that take care of these excesses after they take bribes, curry favour and look the other way only to come and wail later, enact more harmful laws and still blame ordinary hardworking citizens for their crimes.
Tax evasion is the work of FIRS... where them dey?
Cbn regulates money movements in and out of the country and banks are obliged to report certain huge sums of money... where them dey?
Nlc, cpc, etc several parastals etc regulate all these...WHERE THEM DEY?!!!
Its so hard to even to do business in nigeria right now... they shouldn't make it worse.

selfemployed:
some Nigerians have enough dollars in the bank that can help put an end to the dollar scarcity. but prefer to hoard it. they should be made to pay heavy tax on that or liquidate it to help grow the economy

I don't understand... what you are suggesting is robbery. If i decide to save more and spend less, who's business is it? One day they will make a law that will force you to sell your lands or assets because 'there are no lands to buy'. They are hoarding because the economy is not favourable and does not promote trade. Why not make better policies, improve liquidity and truly diversify the economy. You can not improve the economy by using the same insecticide to kill off good insects (common nigerians) and wasps. They should ask for help and quit all this trial and error economics

Regular dose of tramadol is 50mg 12hrly or 100mg daily for pain... and you took 400mg and was expecting not to have such symptoms. Tramadol is useful to physicians and surgeons, do not take without prescription. If you have premature ejaculation or need help with it, consult a specialist and stop fiddling with drugs based on the recommendations of idle touts and village people.

trendphemmy:
I work at Fmc owerri and I can say no baby died, only one shot of teargas was used and it was used only wen they were becoming violent. in same hospital where nurses sell hospital gloves and materials? account people will collect money from patients and put it in their pocket and give receipts dey printed from home? where lab people bring samples from outside to run investigation on federal government funds and collect money? where dey sell donated blood? her major offense is she didn't allow all dese to happen wen she was dere, thou am not saying she is a saint but she is d best medical director in the whole country. the poorest people in Fmc owerri are d doctors.

I thought as much

this govt is a sinkhole
Nothing tangible this past year, they are even owing arrears
Where the big budget dey go abeg?

tax payers funds at work even in a recession... crazy

APC phrases from time immemorial- ' about to' ' intend to' 'expect' 'by 2020' 'to implement'... etc... then they go on to celebrate them in their heads while nothing happens

Toyin saraki hand sha... seems black

MLS masturbation thread ..wankers.... when you open a promotion thread while the public scroll through, laugh at your asses and book appointments to see the serious people
The real players called pathologists don't have the time for this... everybody knows who you are, somethings not happening outside can't start in Nigeria. Try harder

jakiedudu:
I find it difficult to believe Buhari's govt is hijacked. Was it not the same Buhari who appointed the due of Mamman Daura and Abba Kyari into his kitchen cabinet

During yaradua's time, kingibe the power broker was appointed from heaven abi?
Its simple, like a babe, you move in and alienate his guys... lol

Yayyyy!!! We need to hear it

my dear... the 'racism' in nigeria is even greater. From your narrative... they are treating you real nice

originalmachine:
.. I hate corruption.. but we have not heard anything from those judges ...since their arrest, only the DSS has been talking...my advice to all nigetians : whether you are clean or not, don't allow the DSS visits you for any reason... because I won't be surprise to read on naira land that 20 billion dollars was found under your bed

My thoughts exactly

Kgdavid:
So all that is paining you is that they broke into their homes? You and i were not on ground, s how can yu tell whether or not such force was necessary?

What is essential and open for discussion here, is the fact that they were arrested. Should they have been r should they not have been?

If you have no issues with their actual arrest, then you and i have nothing to discuss here.

Ok o... let it continue then, we will all suffer it in the end.
I wonder whether they are terrorism suspects or coup plotters that warrants a night raid military style... no formal charge, no public info... nothing. Let them continue arresting and throwing into jails without question till they eat all of us up

Kgdavid:
Did you just mean to say the arms should check themselves by themselves? That cannot happen.

Now here's why your analogy is not even remotely correct:

1. Judiciary cannot check executive. that is the function of the legislative

2. the legislature can arbitrarily summon the executive before them, provided there is consensus

3. The judges were arrested just last night. It is too soon to cry about due process because arrest is only stage one of the process. Due process would be for them to be informed of the charges against them, taken to court, etc

I said they watch each other's backs.... read well
The judiciary interpretes the law correctly if the executive wants to over reach itself... that is how it checks the executive my friend.
If you have any case, why go breaking people's fences in the night Is there no better and more clear way to do this in public glare? What are they hiding? Coincidentally these are the judges interpreting the law differently from them. Just great.
I really confused at what you are promoting in the name of law.

Kgdavid:
that duty lies with the National Assembly

The arms check themselves.... this night bust up is the equivalent of a judge unilaterally issuing buhari quit notice with no charge against him. .. let there be due process, clear for all to see. Not under cloak of darkness