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buygala:
Personally I feel expensive inverters are overrated

Once one is spending above 60k for an inverter set-up, the person is much much better off with a good and original generator

These deep-cycle batteries speedily lose capacity...some within months...and the set-up itself hardly goes a full year without having to fix or replace something

And Nigerian Inverter technicians are not helping matters either....i will just leave this one at this

At least with generators, as long as one has an original one, and maintains it well, there are hardly any problems....and there are very many fuel economical and soundproof generators in the market presently

I have been using a ups inverter and an inec 27ah li-ion battery to power my tv, Bluetooth speaker and phone chargers for almost 3 years without any significant reduction in capacity of the battery...and haven't replaced anything in the ups or the battery's charger .. ..but within just one year I went through 2 brand new 200ah deep cycle batteries and series of problems with a larger inverter set-up.

Your case may be different sha...but this is my honest opinion

You are definitely in the wrong thread. Some of us have been on Solar only with huge setup for over 4 years and systems are still performing.
Break out of generator palava and take time to go through the preeminent thread on solar in Nigeria and experience peace

With the quacks you used your system will surely fail

https://www.nairaland.com/390522/solar-energy-complement-fta

NiyiOmoIyunade:
Boost!

8 units left...

Niyi thanks battery balancers received. Regards

kingreign:
i hear some folks talking about shell specs, however, toyota never mentioned any hilux as shell specs. but i think its those units with bigger tyres body wheel arch claddings that 4X4 wheel drive systems and also have tonneau cover at the cargo bed that folks refer to as shell specs.

Thanks

kingreign:
I'm back from my 6 weeks incarceration. E no go beta for that cow dung that incarcerated me


Ehen I know I missed plenty ooo

Chiefo please which of the Toyota hilux do they consider to be Shell Specifications?

Kindly advise

gbadexy:
wish you the same sir.
There are slight reduction in price due to the price of raw materials.
The floor paint is N20000 and the sealant is N25000 per drum respectively.
The floor paint covers 50 sqm per drum for 2 full coats and the sealant covers 70 sqm for 3 full coats.
The sealant is made to be very light to accommodate multiple thin coat for better penetration and bonding.

Are these prices still current? Kindly advise

bigrovar:
Yiu won't like my response but I will say non the less. If you do not know the problem with this setup.. Then you have no business installing solar for a client. Nigeria is already filled to the brim with quarks posing as solar installers. It ends up hurting and doing damage to solar adoptation. All hope is not lost sha. Set back and learn the trade.. Its not even that hard.. That you can install solar panel on a roof or you are a good electrician don't make you an installer. If this question came from a Do IT Yourselfer then I would understand but not for someone holding himself out as an installer and having a client.

The truth is very bitter the poor abused client will now say solar does not work and swear off re and become the chief campaigner against re.

Op I'd definitely not qualified to be an installer.

Namzy:
I am not planning to use solar now just inverter and tubular batteries and from your submission is better to stick to the icellpower 2kva inverter and then buy a charge controller when i upgrade to solar rather than use the axpert 2kva hybrid inverter which is more expensive and still buy a charge controller when i want to upgrade

Please confirm if your icellpower 2kva inverter is not an Axpert inverter branded as icellpower. Alot of companies brand Axpert with their own names but in reality it is still an Axpert.

Take a picture of the inverter our learned gurus will be able to tell you if it is a branded Axpert.

GAZZUZZ:
Realistically. VOLVO.

Volvo? For both?

Gazzuzz Goodday please a quick one. What vehicles would you recommend for the under listed:

1) wife
2) aged mother

pranil:
Will the timer cutoff the heater? I would say 2 hours before bath time and off immediately after the last bath time.
It is very difficult to predict the water heater timings as they change based on ambient temp , User and stored water temp ( underground is cool. overhead tanks normally reach 30 + during bright sunny days)

yes the timer will cutoff the heater but 2 hours before bath time would be sound 4 am in the morning the draw may be lethal to my batteries

Namzy:
Yes tubular batteries why can't the inverter charge it from mains and solar is it not hybrid again?

You will need a separate cc. In my experience tubular batteries need to be equalized at 64 volts and unfortunately the Axpert hybrid won't be able to reach that voltage. The cc matrix of the Axpert seems overwhelmed when you are using flooded batteries. My advise is get a separate cc or your batteries will fail within 6 to 10 months if solely using the hybrid inverter.

Please for a 50 litre 1500 watt water heater what is the ideal setting for a programmable timer since it will be on solar only operation?

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Namzy:
Please sir ans this why purchase a hybrid ipowerplus and still use a charge controller. Is that not waste of funds? Or am I missing something? I am still researching before I make my decision and I recently changed my mind from icell to ipowerplus 2kva and I don't intend buying a charge controller. Pls do ans this question

What sort of batteries do you intend to use? If flooded you will need a separate cc to enable you properly charge and equalise the batteries.

solibayo:
many thanks.

this guy is a fraud..no 2 way about it. he can't even produce receipts and has stopped responding to my messages

am almost sure he installed refurbished or fake items.

last we spoke b4 he stopped responding...he's telling me he can't return the batteries as they gave him only 2 wks to return.. batteries that are not even yet 6 months old as of today july 25 and they failed completely since late may

he's a fraudster

his name is john....no is 07069331631

has a jiji page that he uses to scam ppl

https://kintrojohnservices dot jiji dot ng

So sad my little advise is rather than throwing more money at the problem get a professional to come in and check the system for you then you will be able to know what exactly you need to replace to make it work. All the best

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very illiquid stock

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Frankie na was oh After that horrible review of Protek you are offering it for that price?

If the price is not 50k I pass

P.s the 50k includes transportation to Jos

pranil:
I am perfectly happy with my Simba solar heater . Although the whole setup is heavily customized on input-output side I don't see why it would no work as a normal install without any issues

Your system is a whole water works on its own and it is ground mounted.

If as I intend to mount on a stand not sure if the same problem George1 encountered may be an issue.

Any feedback for Simba on a roofmounted installation?

GeorgeD1:
dunka,
unfortunately the answer is no. protek hasn't gotten back to me for almost a year now and i've
since given up hope of ever hearing from them. apparently they have my number in their watsapp
distribution list and all they do these days is push solar inverter/battery adverts to clients. no more
mention of anything to do with solar water heaters. what a scam of a company!

Quite unfortunate and your review had put a real dampner on setting up a solar water heater as I had looked at Protek and other brands such as Simba,NaturePal etc but that all seem to be of similar quality and reputation and I cannot shout

Well the waiting game still continues until a qualitative and affordable solar water heater comes into the market while I will for now increase my solar panels for use of an electric heater.

For a rider which is better Uber or Taxify?

richmon74:
Cool.

It's nice to know that people on these thread are venturing into the DIY POWERWALL.

For your rack, what is your plans for cooling as I didn't see vents nor cooling fans provisions there?

Richmon well-done nice to see you hope you are back for good as you are really missed

NiyiOmoIyunade:
Actually, it is rare that I see a neutral foreign review where the Outback is praised - words like prototype, bug, early concept, experimental feature, flaky e.t.c are what I generally see.

The Midnite however has generally pretty good reviews and plenty of bells and whistles vs. any other. And they also work hard at improving their product constantly so they definitely win at innovation.

We can look at the core design and internals - MorningStar is solid state, battery and PV terminals are very well spaced, can accomodate 35mm cables and even thicker pretty easily vs. the puny/tiny terminals and dangerously closely clustered positive and negative terminals on other brands. MorningStar is however slow to improve or add new features and all their add on equipment are pretty pricey - again a smart player can get by very well indeed with just the CC without a display meter plus a PC or RaspBerry device.

Biko one of us must stop else this matter will drag endlessly - *somebody mentioned heatsinks as a flaw and to that I respond that the heat dissipation ability of the MorningStar far outweights any Fangpusun or similar cheap clone CC one may come across - you would only need external fan cooling if you locked it up in an enclosed space - my indoor mounted MorningStar CC heatsink temp rarely goes beyond 45°C with no additional cooling and the decision to attach a fan is just preference because I have excess DC power and just wanted to pamper the CCs after i moved them indoors (all windows usually closed where they are kept)*

I have used the Fangpusuns and was pleasantly surprised at their performance, their ruggedness and longevity remain to be seen.r
Please let us just stop this thread and raise a new topic but if we must then let us settle the matter via objective testing - my offer to supply panels, loads and 1 CC for the test is valid until early next week

Worlds Number 1 cc that still needs an external fan to function optimally. Kukuma just hand it outside to get fresh cooling air That says it all

One Love

hancock:
Lol. To each and their own
Their was a white paper Morningstar put out some years ago comparing their charge controller to the outbacks flexmax.
http://support.morningstarcorp.com/search/?document_section=&search_product=96

Outback didn't even bother to counteract the comparisons . Its like coca cola giving you 20 reasons why you shouldn't drink Pepsi and pepsi quietly retrieved backwards with their tail between their legs.
As it has been rightly said, just go for products with good reviews, affordability and customer satisfaction. comparing a Lamborghini to a Toyota wouldn't cut it as long as both take you to your destination while delivering a satisfactory experience .

Which mama go say hin pikin no fine?

For Barezzi it is personal hatred for him to say that the Chinese Clone i.e Fangpusun is more reliable than the original Outback shoes personal sentiments

NiyiOmoIyunade:
For the record so that whoever wants to embrace MorningStar is not misled

The CC which blew up had been in use since 2009/2010 based on my check of it's data logs but fraudulently repackaged and sold as brand new to me in 2016. Who knows what it had passed through before it got to me?

I have probably had more than 20 MorningStars pass through my hands between then and now and none has yet failed or had any issues whatsoever - the one which intermittently logs a fault (no impact at all on functionality) I have updated firmware, tweaked and experimented on ceaselessly - once tried to force update my own reverse engineered firmware on it without success, connected a 4.5kw array to it and throttled the battery side output during Bulk charge to 35amps at 59.2v. It is the CC I try out all my ideas on and still running like a champ (on the random occasions it logs the 'DiP Switch Changed Fault', recovers back to full output within 3 seconds, daily produces 10kwh to 15kwh from a 3.6kw PV array).

The one certain vulnerability of the MorningStar is disconnecting CC from battery while PV array is still connected and the PV array is putting out power higher than the CC's clamp limits. I do believe they released a software update to disconnect PV internally to address this flaw but have not yet found the courage to test its effectiveness in real life.

You said it all the best CC is the one that meets your power needs within your budget. I love and trust MorningStar. I will gladly try any other CC experimentally just to see how it works and also because standards change and old champions are overthrown all the time.

For any who will take up the challenge, I have fallow 3pcs 330w Canadian Solar Panels, 1 Spare MorningStar CC and 2 600watt constant DC loads (immersion heaters). Just bring along your own favorite CC and let us perform a benchmark test

Niyi nice one. No one is here to mislead anyone but they way some comments were used would think that Outback was made in Aba when I as a personal user have not experienced such.
I really would not have commented but I was contacted offline by someone asking about my Outback setup because of the terms "useless" "crappy" when that is not the true situation of things.

If I was to go for a CC again I would still go for the Outback and 2nd choice would be a cLASSIC but does that mean the Morning Star is bad cc? Certainly not,i have want floats my boat another user has his.

If they both provide the needed satisfaction so what gives? I have used an Axpert Inverter which gave me issues but will i bad talk it just for talking sake? No as it still has it good points and is my backup inverter in case the Outback "unexpectedly blows up" (Abeg no vex no be me use am)

Anyway I am a novice and a nobody compared to the knowledgeable gurus such as you and the others but can only talk on my own experience.

Thanks and keep up the good work.

May we be truly free from the clutches of epileptic power supply in Nigeria.

kiekie1:
Good morning Sir.. Nicely said ! Its been a while I see you type this long tho .. Its good to see your system supplied some years ago still firing without issues ! Cheer's

Chief marketer well-done. Always reading up comments here as There is a lot to be gained here.

Just commented so that a newbie would not be boxed into a corner and feel that only morningstar cc is the best when all have their pros and cons

Just because in the North Honda is popular dies not make it the best car in the North.

hardywaltz:
For me Outback Flexmax any day or time.
I did an extensive research on Amazon, Ebay and other user forums before I reached the decision to go for the Outback Flexmax 2years ago.

I went back to Amazon yesterday and still Outback has better reviews than Morningstar and Midnite Classic

"They" will not agree fa

What use is the so called best cc if it bears other cc by 1 - 2 % in solar yield but will unexpectedly blow up after 6 months

Hmmm

NiyiOmoIyunade:
Oga Barezzi's Hammer!!!

Delivering justice to crappy CCs since 1865

Younger cousin to Thor's "Mjolnir" hammer.

which I is better Apple,Samsung,Xiaomi,Huawei? or BMW, Honda,Toyota,Mercedes Benz?

No one should get it twisted just as there is no best car or phone same with the top brand cc's or inverters.

Everyone's wants and needs are different while some will swear with a BMW some will also swear with a Honda.

Everybody's experience is what they have experienced.

Do your own research and chose what works for you irrespective of what anyone says. Apple vs. Samsung and Honda vs. Toyota

Everyone has its fans and detractors same in renewable energy.

Remember that most of all the american premium brands are interlinked,connected and related

That been said I stand on my Outback Flexmax 80 cc and Outback 3038 inverter

In use for 4 years now and not 1 issue of blowing up, using external fan to cool down, battery before cc blow up,software issue as the Star has been witnessing on this thread

For me Outback is the best based on my own experience just as you cannot change my mind I also cannot change your mind. So let us just agree to disagree as we all enjoy the world of Free renewable energy.

Wantedmiller:
hi guys, please am confused on what to buy. I have a budget of 80k to get a laptop 4gb Ram, 500gb HDD. Is it wise to get a brand new of HP 15 or to get a fairly used laptop core i3 still HP? It is urgent, considering how long the battery will last.

just 3 words to note, New, New and New

GeorgeD1:
niyi,
that's one of the things they claimed happened. at a point after installation
i decided to remove the assistant tank and connected the cold water inlet
directly to the tank. i did that because i noticed it always took like forever
to fill up whenever i drain the tank for whatever reason. but after the leaks
started and i called them to complain, they advised that I should put back
the assistant tank saying that the main water tank pressure was likely one
cause of the leakage. well, I re-installed the assistant tank and noticed a
slight improvement but that was it - the leakage was still there.

Were you able to finally resolve the leakage issue with the Protek tank?

nonoski:
For me Outback Flexmax does it.
On almost every forum I researched on Outback seems to stand out

The way morning star fanboys are going Outback will soon be downgraded to a Chinese CC

JUO:
7k

k will revert

JUO:
how many watts?

1,500watts