₦airaland Forum

ajibsca:
THANK YOU FOR THE ENLIGHTENMENT SIR . WITH ALL DUE RESPECT ,I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS ... FIRST QUESTION FOR YOU IS WHAT CAR DO YOU DRIVE AND DID YOU BUY IT BRAND NEW WHY DIDNT YOU BUY INNOSON OR THE NIGERIAN MADE CARS ?

SECOND QUESTION- WHAT % OF NIGERIANS CAN AFFORD A 5 YR OLD TOKUNBO CAR TALK LESS OF A BRAND NEW ? THERE IS MASSIVE SUFFERING WHERE PEOPLE CANT EVEN AFFORD TO EAT 3 GOOD MEALS A DAY AND YOU THINK THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR THEM IS TO INFLICT MORE SUFFERING BY ADDING MORE TO THEIR UNSOLVED PROBLEMS ?

NOW LETS LOOK AT IT THIS WAY .... YOU ARE A CIVIL SERVANT AND YOU EARN 40,000 NAIRA MONTHLY AND A LOT OF CIVIL SERVANTS EARN WAY LESS THAN THAT WHICH ISNT STILL ENOUGH TO CATER FOR YOU ALONE TALK LESS OF YOUR FAMILY ,RENT , BASIC AMENITIES, CHILDREN SCHOOL FEES (VERY EXORBITANT THESE DAYS ) AND ETC . CAN YOU TAKE OUT 37,000 NAIRA FROM YOUR SALARY FOR AN AUTO LOAN ? ANSWER IS NO

#2. THERE IS NO BLACK MARKET FOR THE NIGERIAN MADE CAR PARTS YET SO GETTING REPLACEMENT PARTS WILL BE VERY EXPENSIVE UNLIKE USING A TOYOTA, HONDA ETC THAT YOU CAN GET AT IKEJA, LADIPO, ALABA AND ETC ETC.

#3. THE MONIES BEING MADE FROM ALL THE PREVIOUS YEARS I.E TARIFFS /IMPORT DUTIES ETC ETC , OF WHAT USE HAS IT BEEN TO ME AND YOU ? ZERO , ALL GOING DOWN TO A FEW POCKETS.

4. BECAUSE YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE PRODUCTION AND CONSUMPTION OF MADE IN NIGERIA CARS , YOU HAVE TO INFLATE THE COST OF IMPORTATION ? WHAT KIND OF ECONOMICS IS THAT ? WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS TO GIVE ROOM TO ACCESSIBILITY OF THESE KIND OF LOANS TO THE MASSES AT AFFORDABLE RATES CONSIDERING OUR ECONOMY AND MINIMUM WAGE SINCE A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL EARN 15,000 MONTHLY IN THIS COUNTRY EXCEPT THE POLICY IS MEANT ONLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RICH. THEY ALSO NEED TO HAVE MORE PLANTS WHERE PARTS WILL BE READILY AVAILABLE AT AFFORDABLE PRICES.

5. IF I CAN AFFORD TO AND I TAKE OUT A CAR LOAN FOR 37,000 FOR INSTANCE AND I HAVEN'T BEEN PAID SALARY OF 40,000 NAIRA IN 3 MONTHS JUST LIKE THE RECENT ISSUES RELATED TO UNPAID SALARIES IN NIGERIA .... WILL THE AUTO FINANCING COMPANY HOLD THE GOVERNMENT OR ME RESPONSIBLE ?? YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO MAKE THE PAYMENTS AS AGREED AS AT WHEN DUE. IF PAYMENT TERMS ARE NOT MET, THE FINANCING COMPANY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REPOSSESS THE CAR .

WITH ALL OF THESE FACTORS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT ITS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR AN AVERAGE NIGERIAN LIVING MONTH TO MONTH TO BENEFIT FROM SUCH SCHEMES EXCEPT YOU HAVE A WELL SECURED AND GOOD PAYING JOB.

I answered a specific question about the availability of car loans and you totally veered off course.


Was the average Nigerian earning 40 grand monthly able to afford tokunbo cars?

I feel so sorry for the child in the first picture,why put an innocent child through such pains.

These practices are not only disfiguring but also potentially very dangerous as often times the same sharps are used for different people with the risk of transmitting blood borne diseases.

vanunu:
But buhari cancelled the lagos metro, have u forgotten. Already, gej has awarded a $12b contract for a speed train service that will link all the major cities in nigeria, we don't want buhari to come and cancel the contract again.

And pay $20b for breach of contract

MissMeiya:
If you don't want to be offended, don't interrupt when adults are talking.

Not offended just giving you helpful advice.

Montaque:
some parts are locally sourced. Upholstery,side mirror,glass,bolts nd nuts,headrest furs,rubber nd plastic parts etc. These areas are produced locally,and they are jobs to some people. The technicians that fix n assemble the vehicle are also employed.

Thanks for the education.

MissMeiya:
It appears you didn't read my post. Translate "abound" into numbers, dumbass. The market cannot support Nigerian consumption.

Cut and join economics? You're obviously too stúpid to comprehend what I wrote. If you owned a business in Nigeria, you would know exactly what I'm talking about. Fúcking ídiot.

You are very uncouth for a female.

You do not need to use swear words as it betrays one's upbringing.

You have zilch knowledge of economics, already IVM, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, ANAMCO and Peugeot are producing cars, Toyota, BMW, etc are about joining and you still choose to live in denial.

ajibsca:
IF I MAY ASK MR ECONOMIST ,WHAT BRAND OF CAR DO YOU DRIVE ? INNOSON OR ANNAMCO AND DID YOU BUY BRAND NEW ? PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET IN A COUNTRY WHERE NOTHING IS WORKING AND YOU ARE HERE SENTIMENTING THEIR RUBBISH POLICIES THAT WILL ONLY HARM YOU AND I FINANCIALLY. THE TARIFFS THEY HAVE BEEN MAKING ALL THESE YRS, WHAT HAVE THEY USED IT FOR ? PURCHASE OF PRIVATE JETS WHILE THE AVERAGE CITIZEN IS STILL BEING OWED USELESS MINIMUM WAGE FOR MONTHS. WELL AS FOR ME ,TOYOTA AND HONDA UNTIL THEY CAN START PROVIDING CAR MORTGAGES/PAYMENT PLANS AND THE LIKES THAT WILL BENEFIT AVERAGE PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME. LESS I FORGET,IF YOU BUY A GOOD TOKUNBO CAR WITH GOOD MAINTENANCE HISTORY, YOU WILL HAVE NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER WITH A USED CAR.

Many people perish because they lack knowledge.

Information is power.

Explore your environment.

http://www.kiamotorsnigeria.com/kia-partners-diamond-bank-auto-loan-scheme-emi-low-n37000/

http://www.kiamotorsnigeria.com/kia-motors-nigeria-patrners-fcmb-auto-loan-finance-scheme/

MissMeiya:
This administration is actually BRAIN DEAD.

Let me break this down:

Discouraging imports is great for stimulating local economy: WHEN THE LOCAL PRODUCTION ACTUALLY EXISTS. For too many things in Nigeria, the consumption FAR EXCEEDS LOCAL PRODUCTION. The market actually depends on importation for SURVIVAL.

You can't buy what doesn't exist.

So what does this mean? People will continue to import because they HAVE to, even with the increased import taxes:

• They will just pay the increased cost--defeating the purported goal of reducing imports
• They will bribe someone--increased corruption
• They will smuggle it in from neighboring countries--giving more money to other countries

The last is the most likely outcome, as it is already happening. I'm sure car dealers in Cameroon want to kiss our administration.

Please go through the above posts and quit your cut and join economics.

Made in Nigeria cars abound.

What we should be talking about now is the next frontier which includes soft financing of car purchase which is already happening
as well as ability to lease and rent vehicles all these can only be possible with local manufacturing in place.

eeeeeee:
Kia optima made in Nigeria.
http://www.kiamotorsnigeria.com/first-kia-rio-made-nigeria-1-98m/

Thanks for helping

From your link, it looks like the Kia Rio that is made in Nigeria will cost N1.98 million

IVM fox made in Nigeria

STALLION Motors last weekend took the wraps off one of its locally assembled Hyundai models at an interactive session with local automobile media in Lagos. The Grand base model is priced under N2 million.
The Hyundai Grand i10 as it is named is an elegantly compact family sedan that comes in two  variants with 5-Speed manual and 4-Speed automatic transmission  and powered by 1.25 Kappa Dual VTVT engine respectively


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IyfeNamikaze:
IVM
Nissan
pegeuot
these are the ones that I know , I'm sure some people here can contribute to that list

Hyundai
Kia
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/stallion-motors-unveils-made-nigeria-hyundai-grand/

We want to see them.

We need to know the intellectual ability of the person who wants to be Nigeria's president.

His habitual failures may lie in those papers.

Done bun can't be undone.

Buhari is economically inept and has no clue how to better the nation.

All his decisions on the economy have been disastrous.

When I saw Buhari's Channels interview, it confirmed my fears that he had no idea whatsoever how to manage Nigeria's economy.

His shocking answers to questions on economic policies demands that he should never be allowed near that office he seeks.

Yam farmers giving him N5 billion.

This man must think he is talking to some group of buffoons.

At this rate cattle rearers will give him N5trillion.

DesChyko:
The average 'black man' is indeed a poor scholar!..

How many of you bothered to click on that link?? There is a notice there which says..

"..This directory is not just composed of graduates of this school, as some of the famous people on this list didn't necessarily earn a degree from U.S. Army War College."

cc: eleojo23 tit anonimi eaglechild

That is exactly why I said that the list has no meaning or credibility.

Anyone can create a rank list.

This has absolutely no meaning and lends him no credence whatsoever.

OP it is apparent that you do not know that the US has the power to veto whatever the outcome was.

Nigeria did the best thing by remaining neutral.

agabusta:
This writer made some sense but I still disagree with his subtle method of encouraging regional politics. Our political landscape has matured more than that. And it is to the benefit of the nation as it fosters unity, peace and harmony and thus development when all tribes are well represented in the major political parties.

And all persons has an active role to play in encouraging unity. There is no better way to show this unity than for different tribes to be well represented in the parties having national coverage.

Good people of Nigeria, pls let's do away with this archaic political system of Igbo, Hausa, Yoruba, etc party.

Well, this seems to be happening already anyway, albeit at a slow pace, because if one analyzes the political landscape of Nairaland it shows that the two major political parties has support base across the tribes.

Playing unhealthy regional politics is just like playing with a keg of gun powder that can explode anytime and throw the nation into anachy.

The onus is on the youths to effect this change. Please lets leave the bitter tribal politics played by our parents and let's encourage politics played on conviction, unity, equity and progress to all parts of the country!

I wish you all a happy, peaceful and prosperous 2015.

Excellent.

The best move is to remain neutral.

We do not need another terrorist group springing up when we vote against and we do not want our relationship with the US becoming sour at this point so good move.

ProfCorruption:
Perhaps, Lagos will follow Enugu's example. If Enugu can stop such an appointment, what's the point in Lagos doing?

Of course people can shout marginalization where there is none. But where is proof of such marginalization?

Like I said Enugu, Ekiti or Zamfara for example are not as diverse as Lagos.

Political set ups should reflect the innate diversity of a place and Lagos is a shining example of a thriving diversity that should be nurtured in order to encourage others.


I have not seen anyone complaining or clamoring for political recognition in Enugu or Ekiti or Zamfara which clearly shows they are satisfied so why fix a good part.

If anyone feels cheated he should by all means protest.

Besides two wrongs can never make a right.

ProfCorruption:
Why did Enugu stop it? Is Enugu no longer as diverse as when it was implemented?

Perhaps, and i think if any group feels marginalized they should by all means seek for better treatment.

That is the integration we are talking about.
And just to add i am talking about the recent past.( I mean the appointments)

ProfCorruption:
OK o. I would like to discuss Enugu. Don't you think is ripe for Enugu to appoint someone from either Kano or Ondo as commissioner, in the spirit of integration?

Absolutely, and it has actually been done before.

Like I said Enugu, Ekiti or Zamfara for example are not as diverse as Lagos.

Political set ups should reflect the innate diversity of a place and Lagos is a shining example of a thriving diversity that should be nurtured in order to encourage others.

VirginFinder:
You'll never know!

And that's why we Yorubas have been agitating for ibos to throw their 'huge' weight and voting strength behind the ibo APGA ibo candidate as a true test of their population in Lagos.

Insecure, cowardly ibos wont budge. They'll rather queue for deputy governorship slot under Jimi Agbaje which they will never get in millennia to come.

Ok
I can safely assume that it is a figment of your imagination.

Thanks.

GEJisBOKO:
Osu ibo

you are going back to Biafra, the land of kwashiorkor and starvation.

Igbos are cursed

biafra is cursed

I think this thread is meant for sane and mature minds.

ProfCorruption:
You did not answer my question. You parried it. I asked you the same question twice by just rephrasing it but still you couldn't answer it.

1. There is not a single state or city in Nigeria that is not multi-ethnic. So, it's not a Lagos thing. Kano is also multi ethnic and Enugu is equally multi-ethnic. Why can't we ask those states to follow the example of Lagos? Why can't Kano appoint a commissioner from Oyo and Enugu appoint from Ekiti? Are there no Ekiti and Oyo people living and contributing to the development of those states? And if those states refuse to toe the line of Lagos, why not commend rather than condemn Lagos state?

2.How many ethnic groups are in Lagos that are not in Port Harcourt or Kano? Which ethnic group can you find in Lagos but can't find in any other state? How exactly is Lagos the most multi-ethnic state? Is that your opinion or a fact?

3.The political structure in Lagos already reflects what it should be. Or what should it reflect?

We need not repeat each other.

My statements have been clear and the same.

I did not single out anywhere, I simply stated that every Nigerian should be free to occupy any position anywhere from Lagos to Oshogbo to Enugu. I went further to suggest that since Lagos is the most multi ethnic it should naturally lead the way.
You are the one bent on making it all about Lagos.

Of course Lagos being the most diverse means it should also have the most diverse political set up.
One may not have the same expectations for Ekiti or Zamfara but i hope we will get there someday.

Xsolutions:
No...Thank you.FOOL

Can you now run along .

VirginFinder:
Hogwash!

Yorubas cant be less than 70-75% of Lagos population.

Both Yoruba and English language are used freely in public institutions/facilities/services in Lagos.

Facts are not established by throwing tantrums.

I wonder where you pulled that out from.

Xsolutions:
You are the ONE who is lost

Thanks

Xsolutions:
Are you this DUMB??

I just wanted you to understand.

I can see you seem to still be lost.

ProfCorruption:
But that's happening in Lagos already. Akabueze is not from Lagos but he is holding a position in Lagos. So, Lagos is a leader already. Isn't it?

Perhaps I need to ask you obvious questions to help our understanding.

The Yorubas are dominating Lagos politics. Is that bad? If yes, why?

I am glad i have answered your question (all rather pointed out its irrelevance)

Your first sentence is exactly where we should be heading and i am talking of an even wider net to represent all the diverse groups.

Your last question is also answered by the same statement. Lagos is a large cosmopolitan state and the most multi ethnic and as such its political structure should reflect that don't you think so?

Xsolutions:
What smiley...

I mean the emoticon(the green circles with faces)

there you go that is a smiley.