₦airaland Forum

abdullkabar:
There is an ongoing research on how long the antibodies to the virus last in the body, that will give the duration the body is immune to the virus.
Also the load of exposure to the virus can play a major role(even if one is immune to it, if exposed too much to the virus might overwhelm the immune system, leading to an infection)

OK thanks so much for your input, what this means is until the person is exposed again to the virus, then the immune system can be overwhelmed thus birthing new infection.

ikorodureporta:
we've been hearing that some of the people show symptoms after being discharged.

This could be due to their immune system & malnutrition

that is serious and that means that that same person can still go back to the isolation centre

funny you

boom99:
All i am saying is most of these people dont have the virus. Na malaria them get

volo112:
How many names or pictures of convid 19 patients have you seen on TV.( This was done intentionally because of stigmatization)
If their faces were shown, the stigmatization would have been too much.
Your next door neighbor might have been treated and recovered from the isolation centre without you knowing.

If it wasn't real, do you think the Nigerian government would have ordered lockdown
Nigeria is currently losing billions due to the lockdown
Both States and federal government are losing money
The private sector is also losing money.
At the moment now, recession is almost knocking on the doors of Nigeria.

We are experiencing the low death rate by God's grace. it is not by our govt efforts'. Countries like USA, Italy , Spain has better healthcare facilities yet people are dying in their thousands.

Don't be a victim before you believe convid -19 is real .
The experience isn't palatable at all.

Yeah the experience is not palatable but if one happens to be a victim, have it at the back of one's mind that so many people have become victims before such person and they came out of it strong. Please go for testing, so many people are infected, the earlier one starts the supportive treatment,the better for one.

Breadfruit:
how did she contract it? How old is she? Did she self isolate or was treated by ncdc?

bros are you collating data Who told you the infected persons know how and where they contacted it from/who is saddled with the responsibilities of treating infected patients in Nigeria If you are having any symptoms quickly go for testing and do not consider what people will say about you, I think that is what is holding so.many people of not going out for testing, you are better off a living dog(just to drive home a point) than a dead lion for Christ sake please stay safe, this shit is real

honeyB2018:
Honestly, I have my doubts about the way these guys at NCDC's handling this Covid19 issue.
There is a lot of secrecy in their dealings. I have said this in my previous post on this platform.
How come the identity of the Covid patients are hidden, while that of Ebola patients in 2014, were made public?
Names of Nigerians in diaspora, who died through covid 19, were published,and those that died here are kept in secret, with the exception of few.
Why should the number of the recovered, discharged and death, bed still countered, when we should be concerned with the active cases?

names of the discharged are kept secret to prevent stigmatization, I just hope that some of these discharged patients will not lose their source of livelihood if their employers finallu get to know like the boyfriend to the young nurse from abia state that died during the Ebola crisis, I think this is another aspect the government has to work on, there should be anti-stigmatization laws for instances as these we are having now.

You are a rare gem bro, just one question, is there any possibility of a recovered patient being reinfected more like after being discharged from the hospital and one gets home to be reinfected by the virus itself.

abdullkabar:
Laughable post
Like seriously!!!!
Well, this is what our leaders have caused

*_This is one of the most enlightening information I've ever come across on this COVID-19 pandemic.
I don't know the originator but I think he/she deserves an applause.**_ ������

Read on.

� A QUESTION PEOPLE OFTEN ASK �

How/Why Do People Recover If There's Still No Proven Cure For COVID-19?
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� ANSWER :

Most respiratory viruses-- including Corona viruses such as the ones that causes the Common Cold -- are self-limiting, so to say.

What this means is that they have a relatively finite period in the human body before they "wear themselves out," or the immune system contains them, and the sufferer recovers.

Treatment for these viruses is thus mostly aimed at;

1. Relieving symptoms, in order to make the sufferer comfortable.

2. Keeping the infected person alive by supporting organ systems attacked and impaired by the virus.

Most times, treatment is not aimed at curing such viral illnesses, by attacking the virus itself. This is partly because they're self-limiting, and partly because developing antiviral medication is darn difficult due to the fact that they mutate so rapidly, and are more or less like shape shifters. If you develop a treatment against this form today, tomorrow they may mutate into a form resistant to said treatment.

So, the best form of treatment for such viruses is prevention, either by modification of social and lifestyle habits, to break the chain of transmission; or by vaccination.

If someone however becomes infected, treatment, as the immune system slugs it out with the virus, is usually supportive, and not definitive.

_________________________

Before we move on to COVID-19, I want to make a distinction and clarification between two forms of treatments- supportive treatment, and definitive treatment.

� DEFINITIVE/SPECIFIC TREATMENT

In the context of infectious diseases, definitive treatment entails treatment targeted specifically at the offending organism, aimed at eliminating it from the body. Once this is done, the body-- through its repair mechanisms, heals itself of the damage already caused by the organism, and the person recovers.

An example is use of antimalarial drugs to treat Malaria, and antibiotics to treat bacterial infections.

� SUPPORTIVE TREATMENT

This, in the context of infectious diseases, is treatment not aimed at eliminating the organism, but relieving its symptoms, and supporting vital bodily functions already compromised by it, while waiting for, or hoping that, the immune system will contain said infection.

So, if the person is having a distressful cough, you may have to give cough syrups to suppress it; if there's fever, you may have to use anti-pyretics, such as paracetamol, to relieve it; if in pain, analgesics may be used generously to make the patient more comfortable; etc.

If the infection compromises the function of certain vital organ systems, and the person is at risk of dying without optimal functioning of said system, you support the organ's function:

- For failing lungs; oxygen, and ventilators, may be needed.

- For cardiovascular collapse; fluids, and vaso-pressors may be given.

- For kidney failure; dialysis may come in handy.

Etc.

By doing these, you may be able to keep the body going, while the immune system wages battle against the offending organism.

If by the time the immune system is able to win the war and contain the infection, you have managed , through your supportive treatment, to keep the person alive, the person recovers.

However, if the damage caused by the organism in its wake is too much, and your supportive treatment couldn't keep the person alive to see the end of the battle between immune system and bug, the person dies.

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� COVID-19

For COVID-19, the "finite" period of battle between immune system and virus is usually between 2 to 6 weeks-- up to 8 weeks in some instances, depending on the competence/resilience of the person's immune system, among other things.

If one is able to withstand the onslaught of the virus within this period, the person would pull through, sometimes without any treatment, other times with supportive treatment, all depending on the severity of the disease.

To put this in context, COVID-19 has 5 clinical variants BASED ON SEVERITY;

1. Asymptomatic Form.

In this form, one gets infected without manifesting any symptom whatsoever. The person thus ends up just as a mere carrier, spreading the infection to others.

2. Mild Disease.

Some people would get the virus, but just have upper respiratory tract infection, with symptoms such as sneezing, mild fever, cough, malaise, etc; and recover rapidly, with or without any supportive treatment.

3. Moderate Disease.

This group would go on to develop lower respiratory tract infection, with pneumonia, and would need some supportive treatment, but may not be sick enough to need oxygen therapy.

4. Severe Disease.

This group develop Pneumonia, and get so sick that they would need oxygen therapy.

5. Critical Disease

This group of patients get so bad, and develop A.R.D.S, and ventilatory respiratory failure, so much that they would need a ventilator to survive, without which they'd definitely die.

� NB

This classification is based solely on the effect of the virus on the respiratory system, its primary target in the body. That however doesn't mean that the virus only affects the lungs.

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The form of the disease one develops depends on a host of factors including;

1. Immune status.

2. Age.

3. Presence of other co-morbidities, such as Diabetes, Hypertension, Heart Disease, Cancer, Chronic Lung Diseases, etc.

.

People with asymptomatic and mild to moderate forms of the disease don't need much help to recover; sometimes they're even advised to stay at home, especially in countries whose Hospitals are already overwhelmed, and are managed with minor conservative/supportive measures to relieve symptoms such as fever, headache, chest pain, and cough.

People with severe and critical forms of the disease would need Hospital admission and a lot of supportive measures, including oxygen therapy, ventilators, anti-shock therapy-- if necessary, and the full compliment of ICU care.

If conservative measures are enough to sustain the person, the person could still pull through even without specific antiviral therapy.

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� CONCLUSION

Hope I've been able to make you understand how recovery is possible, even without a definitive cure.

Now you know.

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Just in case you were wondering, I intentionally didn't want to dabble into the controversies surrounding touted specific antiviral remedies such as the Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin combination, Kaletra/Alluvia, Arbidol, etc; because whatever influence they have on prognosis doesn't negate the submissions made here.

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omonuhabi:
Since you want to be sure so as to know that the figures are not scam, I pray for you that the next figures of infection will come from your household and it shall lead to subsequent death. Please say amen.

What rubbish. Do you all think it's easy, go to the household of those affected then you will know that Jesus is Lord.

If you are so inquisitive, just go to the isolation centres and expose yourself to the disease by then you can be absolutely sure.

Foolish.

Hey bro, you need not waste your time saying all of these, my people say when they carry another man's corpse, it will seem lime a log to another person. Please this virus is real o as per the ncdc data, expect more of that, Nigeria has not done any testing, so many people have been affected though asymptomatic, please stay safe and clean.

boom99:
I LADY JUST TOLD ME OF HER NEIGHBOUR WHO WAS SICK. THE NURSE CAME AND TOLD HER SHE HAD SYMPTOMS OF MALARIA AND TYPHOD. THE HUSBAND DID NOT HAVE CASH AT ALL FOR THE TREATMENT, HE DECIDE TO CALL NDC.... THEY CAME OO, TOOK HER AND TOLD HER SHE HAD COVID, THE WOMAN DID NOT COMPLAIN THEY TREATED HER FOR TWO WEEKS. THEY FEED HER WELL TOOK CARE OF HER. SHE DIDNT WANT TO COME BACK. SHE CAME BACK LOOKING FRESH. NO WONDER CNN NO EVEN THEY CARRY NEWS ABOUT 9JA COVID.

bro this your story eh, well kindly tell the husband of the woman to tell the nurse to quarantine herself, they have similar signs, please let us not joke with this virus thing. IT IS REAL. Am pleading to all on this platform corona virus is REAL O.

blessed2maro:
If testing is carried out on full scale nation wide the number should be reading in thousands. The more test we do to isolate the virus carriers the better for the nation.

well spoken, this I have been advocating, mass testing to separate the infected ones(both symptomatic and asymptotic) fro the non infected ones. See people having this virus is not that they don't wash their hands or carry out the necessary requirement to prevent such but then in one way or the other which is no fault of theirs, they became infected. We all need to be extra careful.

Taiwojon:
lie

Lagos with lie

fake news
I repeat



FAKE NEWS

please sir, let stop this, na human lives we dey talk about.

kalufelix:
Abia and ikpeazu always in the relegation zone...why??

please let them remain in the relegation zone o, as we empathize with affected States

Mightymanna:
At least we will enjoy clean sheet today in Kano because no test was conducted hence 0 case. All the test kits has been exhausted in Kano.

bro kano of all states should have enough testing kits, hmmmmm if nothing is done in getting more of the kits to them, expect more because the active case we are seeing in kano might just skyrocket. God heal our country from the mistakes of just few persons.

u11ae1013:
I think it would be foolish to declare another lockdown, if truly the virus passes through the face then face mask should be made compulsory and let us revive our economy because if we don't, then the number will keep increasing and the recession will take centuries for us to recover

true talk bro, the lockdown is not being strictly adhered to, but then it is better we have recessions than having mass death, so many people are infected,what we need now to save us is mass testing, whether you have the symptoms or not, just do a mass testing especially in Lagos state and save the country

osazsky:
no sir ..its not yet time ..by d power of the holy ghost u are healed I reject death from ur life pls stay positive love u

good one bro, at this point so many people are depressed and needs someone to encourage them, see it is not the covid-19 that the people are looking at but the thought of other people seeing them as covid-19 patients, please let us heal ourselves psychologically.

IamgratefulLord:
I didn't see any mail

please check again, it is a forwarded mail cos I used a gmail instead of a yahoo mail.

Please let us all work on boosting our immunities . Big thanks to Iamgratefullord.

emeernest:
I'll only rejoice when number discharged daily exceeds number confirmed positive daily.

hopefully too but different persons have different recovery rate and your immune system does that for you.

adewumiopeyemi:
so much company will lay of there staff this year corona stuff

this is where the government comes in, same government certifies that the victims are free from the virus and as such a strong legislation should be put in place that no company/establishment/places of worship/places if abode should stigmatize or fire any of the recovered patients if they are into corporate organisations, anyone found doing that will be dealt with by the law, if there is a quarantine law, there should be a law against stigmatization.

azraeljaheel:
Lord please help us...


Rate of people companies will lay off this year eh... Na just God go safe people


Wearing mask to give speech... Over do no go kill us for naija

Y will they lay off, the best every company will do is to call its staff and tell them in a subtle way that all staff have gone on their annual leave, and if the salary is the issue, they should fanthom a way reaching an understanding with the workers to spread this month's pay for those that don't have the capacity to pay.

Please check your mail. Thanks

IamgratefulLord:
Good day dear, grind fresh garlic ( a hand-ful ) and fresh ginger ( like 2 pieces) and add the juice from the lime and a little water. 2 limes into the blender don't forget to remove the seeds from the lime. Make sure you blend them very well then remove the mixture from the blender into a plate and share them into small nylons ( moi - moi nylon) you can put just two spoons each in the nylon and put them into a freezer to preserve the mixture.
However, you would need to take the mixture once a day. Boil a cup of water then add one of the mixture in a cup with the boiled water. Allow to cool and drink. After 3 days you will thank me and most especially God. Just take the mixture for 1 week, but just once a day since you don't have Coronavirus.
Cheers!

IamgratefulLord:
Good day dear, grind fresh garlic ( a hand-ful ) and fresh ginger ( like 2 pieces) and add the juice from the lime and a little water. 2 limes into the blender don't forget to remove the seeds from the lime. Make sure you blend them very well then remove the mixture from the blender into a plate and share them into small nylons ( moi - moi nylon) you can put just two spoons each in the nylon and put them into a freezer to preserve the mixture.
However, you would need to take the mixture once a day. Boil a cup of water then add one of the mixture in a cup with the boiled water. Allow to cool and drink. After 3 days you will thank me and most especially God. Just take the mixture for 1 week, but just once a day since you don't have Coronavirus.
Cheers!

Thanks am most grateful, prevention they say is better than cure

IamgratefulLord:
My dear, apart from bitter kola. I watched a live video on Facebook about a Nigeria mum with Coronavirus in the UK.
Guess what she took for 3 days, every four hours??
Fresh grounded garlic and fresh grounded ginger with lime for 3 days. Coronavirus disappeared!
My dear, I didn't waste time to grind mine.
But I took mine just once a day instead of the 4 hours interval she took hers because I don't have Coronavirus. My dear the small wound/cut I had on my hand dried up after two days.
Fresh Garlic and ginger work wonders

was it the lime juice or the whole lime itself and and was it mixed with water

Rest on Abba kyari, where was the body received from All these government officials with hoarding of information. Our darling Fashola...... Hmmmm

These people will never learn, stop playing politics with someone's death, it does the country no good, even though he was presumed to be the head of a sinister cabal, he was a Nigerian and it saddens the heart of many that another Nigerian has(had) if you understood what I mean) fallen to this man made biological weapon. Rest on Abba Kyari

Stupid Governor and Government, suspected covid-19 patient is still on the run and you are giving two days for the people to restock, I know some too know person will want to quote with emphasis on SUSPECTED, but you will forget that it is 50-50 thing. God please help us liberate Abia state from bad leadership.

I am tempted to say that is what they deserve.

The index case was recorded yesterday, that means during the said lockdown by the Lagos state government, this fellow decided to leave and go to Anambra state. How stupid and wicked some people can be, I thought the governor said their borders were beefed up with security personnel, the question now is who allowed their bus into anambra state I tire for some people

FreelanceRebel:

I will still repeat the quote again, this time around bold
Recall that, only recently, the church donated relief materials in food items worth several millions of naira to the Ogun and Lagos State governments, in support of the food bank initiative by the state, in the face of the lockdown.

You are not being pragmatic but biased and sentimental. You keep talking about the poor/masses linking them to be church members, without giving instance where you get the fact from, maybe you talking about yourself who knows.

**Who are the poor/masses
**What is their daily job
**Why are they poor or claim to be
**Are they are member of a local church
**Why cant they approach their local members or pastor for help

This is pragmatic way of reasoning not a sense of self entitlement on behalf of someone or yourself. Personally I being single, have supported Family men and women money-wise in thousands of Naira and when its time for church giving I don't relax, and all this while I have never rely on anybody or have a sense of entitlement that the church must help because am doing for the church or it members

I work I Give and God is Blessing me..... Givers Never Lack....

Tell to those poor/masses to Ask and it shall be given to them.

God of Oyedepo will be merciful to you, bless you so much that yourself will be a blessing to others, thereby keeping you shut from complaining on behalf of the poor

[center][/center] you amuse me and what makes you think God of oyedepo has not been merciful and blessed me, we don't blow trumpets and never we will, like I told you I don't tow the path of affronts, since you saw it as being biased and sentimental good for you but in my opinion at this trying time, the church don't need to donate any cash rather get ventilators, ambulances, PPEs, nose masks,build quarantine centres if even it is a make shift, renovate any centre the government had intension to renovate during the course of this pandemic and if it comes to distribution of relief materials, let it be handled by the church, the essence of all these being handled by the church is to ensure 80-90%(the other 10-20% could be for eventualities) getting to the targeted persons.

FreelanceRebel:
Please for God sake don't allow your way of reasoning to get beyond nairaland. Here is a quote from that last Paragraph if the News.

Hello, I don't do insults but am being pragmatic, the church donated some food items to the same government, how many have you/the poor masses received The church has been bashed in this season as not being pro active in the fight of covid-19 though it was expected as this has not been the first time, I would rather preferred the church do her thing than engaging government who at Tue end of the day this same relief materials will not get to the targeted persons, am not saying the government is bad but during the course of distributing this same materials, some funny personnels hoard these things and the people that they were meant for are hungry I mean very very hungry. The effect of the church handling the distribution of relief materials will be more felt than leaving in the hands of any government

FreelanceRebel:
Can you tell that member to humble himself or herself and call her pastor that s/he need help

can you tell that members were taken care of this period Until the member humbles himself or herself and then call the pastor, nothing may be done for such person At this period every donation from the church should not be in cash bro, the church can build a make shift hospital, provide PPEs, provide ventilators, ambulances in her name not getting into donations that will never be accounted for, I admire and respect pastor kumuyi so much but this gesture of donating cash of 50m,Hmmmm it is well

Sincerely I think the governing council of these churches don't sit to advise the pastors well, I agree it is called cooperate social responsibility but at this juncture the masses which their members are part really need it more than the government, our system of governance at the moment is not transparent enough to entrust huge sums of money in the hands of just few persons who already have access to the national treasury, can't our dear nation handle this pandemic as a nation without external donations, am just thinking aloud, a member of that church is very very hungry at the moment and our respected kumuyi is doing this? It is well