@ogoamaka99

Oritsejafor abeg shutup, I bet you are not crying all the way to the bank with the money you have scammed of your victims! Charlatan!

I dont know why Nigerians refuse to use their brains - how can this vague collection be called prophesies ?

How are these prophesies ? This is all vague, 'cast the net wide' stuff.

Come on people, we have a brain, lets use it!!

@Nairalanders

A man who is dedicated to defending charlatans and thieves wins 'religion section poster of the year'!! What is wrong with us ? For all of you who voted for Joagbaje, shame on you!

@Ishilove,

you are right I dont believe in all the crappy nonsense peddled by MFM - especially that people whose mothers had difficult pregancies need deliverance. It is the kind of nonsense only a half-wit like yourself would believe. Did you go to secondary school ? Did you sleep during biology ?

Regarding 'selling deliverance' - do you think those that are 'delivered' are not cajoled into donating money ? How else will MFM run itself ? Maybe they can manufacture money out of thin air! LMAO

Come one guys, does anyone take MFM seriously. Look at this peach

Need deliverance from your spirit husband or wife ? LMAO . I did not know MFM did comedy as well

Book by DKO : Dealing with witchcraft barbers LMAO.

No one really takes this crap for real ??

@helpee, you said

it is evident now that you have a serious psychological challenge. When everybody you know is a fraud and you assume that there must be thousands out there that you don't know that are holy then something is wrong with you. Why are you so unlucky that you only happen to know the frauds while the good ones are nowhere near you. Either you are a fraud too, cos like mind attracts or you don't have the capabilty to differentiate between fraudulent and genuine people. Don't expect a perfect partner, be the perfect partner. I gave up on you when I discovered that you can't even vouch for your pastor as a man of God. Cannt u see you are psychologically insecured cos you believe everybody is after the yeye pound you made by sweeping the streets of london. Anyway if you consider your sufferring sweeping in winter you may want to attack every ashimolowo that made it in london but your hatred is your problem. You said because somebody is selling books he is fleecing people then that includes God cos most bibles are not sold for free. Your thinking gives you out as a frustrated fellow. I am not here to defend any man Of God but for you to say every man of God you know is a fraud while the ones you don't know will likely be genuine shows you are living in fool's paradise

You are not seriously comparing the crap he is peddling with the bible, are you ? You clowns really have no understanding of christianity!

@Ishilove

Do you consider this crap ?

You need deliverance if you have experienced any of the following:

    if you were conceived in adultery or fornication
    if your parents comtemplated aborting you
    if you were abused as a child
    if you have been violated or molested
    if your mother had a difficult pregnancy
    if you almost died during the first few years of life
    if you had imaginary playmates in childhood
    if you have been chronically ill all your life
    if you grew up in a war zone
    if you have been ridiculed all your life
    if you have a history of intimate perversion in your bloodline (adultery, violation, Inbreeding, etc)
    if you have been accident-prone all your life
    if you have a history of poverty in your life and/or in your family
    if you have engaged in a lifestyle of cheating, robbing and theft
    if you are afraid of being alone
    if you are extremely uncomfortable around people
    if you are intensely jealous of others
    if you were involved with the occult
    if you are attracted to, or have consulted palm readers, satanic advisors and psychics
    if you have been involved with abortion
    if you have chronic headaches or mental confusion
    if you have a difficult time reading the Bible or praying
    if you are afraid of trusting people or getting close to people
    if instead of going forward, you are moving backward
    if you have inexplicable loss of memory
    if you should be a winner but you are failing
    if your inputs and efforts fail to get success
    if you are being governed by a power contrary to your will
    if you were formerly rich but suddenly turned poor
    if your trials have refused to come to an end
    if you have unnatural movements in parts of your body
    if you find it difficult to get baptized in the Holy Ghost
    If you encounter chain problems
    if you are constantly duped
    if you have horrible experiences in your dreams
    if you have participated in a non-Christian religion
    if you have a sick tongue
    if you have emotional disturbances
    if you suffer from restlessness
    if you hear strange voices
    if you have unholy fear
    if you are operating under evil covenants and curses
    if you suffer from unexplainable family breakdowns
    if you are engaged in profitless hardwork
    if you observed that you have inherited problems
    if you observed that you are bound by sin or satan
    if you are constantly harassed by evil spirits
    if you have an evil trend of problems in your family

If you dont think it is crap, you need your head examined!

@tpia

were you forced to buy the books or what exactly are you in a frenzy about

Mugu, didnt all you fools say MFM did not care about money ? Why is he selling these crap then ?

Oyedepo has four private jets.

Regarding T b Joshua, look for videos of his 'miracles' on youtube and judge for yourself.

More crap from MFM - prayer passport to crush oppression ?? oppresion from who ??

This is the sort of crap peddled by MFM - which Joagbaje and some other clowns do not consider 'fleecing'

@tpia

byebye Mugu! When you drop your pen tommorrow at work, careful o, it could be dark forces o! St*pid man!!

@tpia

Mugu! Comparing seeing a therapist with going to spend a few nights in MFM's 'prayer city'. You are a very st*pid man!

@tpia

^^your s.tupidity is breathtaking, and if you'd give yourself a moment to come up for air when spewing rubbish in a frenzy, you'd definitely have better comprehension skills.

as it is, i'm not going to show you just how amazingly s.tupid you are.


reread my post, this time without a beer bottle by your side and alcohol fumes emanating from every pore, and MAYBE your brain will get unfogged enough to function?

You can't insult your way out of this one - you were comparing seeing a therapist to waging war on unseen evil dark forces. It is due to the likes of you that Africa is as backward as it is as present! Mugu!

@tpia

all the things listed there are what people pay therapists good money to see for, in western countries.

the op is d.aft.

what do you personally have to offer by way of help, for those experiencing these things?

really, some of you should just stick to drunkenness because your sobriety is worse.

Your stupidity is breathtaking, are you suggesting the therapist will tell his patients that their problems are caused by dark evil forces ?? Where do you people come from ? Do you use the internet for anything else apart from defending these frauds ?

@Joagbaje

You know you have goofed ,with this silly thread, calling inocent people names. You claimed "THEY WILL GET DELIVERANCE AFTER THEY PAY SMALL FEES"  and for that reason "they are fraud"

Where did you get the idea from that a fee is paid to get delivered in MFM ?

This list of people needing deliverance alone proves that they are frauds (if your mother had a difficult pregnancy, if you are afraid of being alone etc), how do these require deliverance ?

In any case once these people are 'delivered' they will be fleeced in one way or another, after all the pastor and his family have to eat

This fraudulent group whose sole aim seems to be to convince the gullible/desperate that their problems are caused by demons/evil forces, is anything but innocent!

@Joagbaje

Call it what you like 'paying for deliverance', tithes, offerring, first fruits etc, you frauds manage to find a way to fleece your victims!

@Albert708

I am not condemning anybody they are really both frauds.

If I say Bill Clinton is a womaniser I am not condemning him it is fact, in the same way if I say Oledepo and T B Joshua are both charlatans - it is a fact.

@tunnytox

Why do you guys insist on dodging the crux of the matter ? MFM with their list of poeple needing 'deliverance' have casted their net far and wide to catch as many gullible/desperate people as possible and once they do, fleece them. Do you really think you need deliverance if 'your mother had a difficult pregnancy' ?  This is utter nonsense.

By the way if they dont take tithes and offerings, how do they maintain themselves ? By the way, how much do they charge per night in 'Prayer City' ? 

Both are frauds!

@dankol, @omoajo1

Guys, try again. MFM is probably the worst offender in perpetuating the myth that every human misfortune is caused by evil dark forces - and they make money on the back of this. This is undeniable - hence my post. How can they say you need deliverance if 'your mother had a difficult pregnancy' - that is simply ridiculous. We can not have nonsense like this being peddled around in this age and time!

@Azibalua, my old friend, how are you these days ? Still defending frauds, I see.

I can easily identify frauds by the words that come out of their mouths and their actions e.g


When Waterboy (Fireman) calls himself a doctor, I know he is a fraud.

When Waterboy claims to have read 40,000 books, I know he is a fraud

When Oledepo slaps someone in church ,

When AshimoDollar asks for dollars when preaching in Ghana,

When MFM want to deliver everyone on the planet ,

When Oledepo owns 4 jets at the same time ,

When Oyaks 'jerry curls' his hair ,

When Joagbaje claims to have raised someone from the dead remotely, I know he is a fraud and must be on cheap drugs

@Joagbaje

If they dont charge for 'deliverance', what do you think they exist for ?

MFM, Oledepo, Oyaks, Waterboy (aka Fireman) exist for one reason and one reason only - to enrich themselves on the backs of the desperate and gullible.

@helpee, you said

Just mention a single pastor you know that is not fake and tell us your criteria for choosing him and please don't mention an obscure fellow known only by you. Then and only then will I agree with you that these other pastors are fake

This is rather an infantile argument you are putting forward. So if I can not name a good pastor then all the bad pastors must be good. That is warped logic.

If every mechanic I have taken my car to has turned out to be useless and I have not found a good mechanic yet, does that make the bad mechanics good ?? Do you see the simplicity of your argument ?

In any case there must be thousands of good pastors out there who are not enriching themselves by twisting the bible.

@helpee

Not every pastor is a fraud - however it appears most pentecostal/prosperity gospel pastors are frauds. The likes of Oyedepo, Oyaks, Ashimolowo and co are crooks and cowards.

I dont need the likes of you to take me seriously - you and your 419 pastors can ,

Mountain of Fraud like the other houses of fraud con people out of their hard earned cash by subtle threats.

It is ironic you mention lies - which is what you frauds specialize in doing!

You're supposed to be a Christian, Christ-like, yet all the verses you posted are from the Old testament.

Other verses in the Old Testament include

Don’t cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)

People who are blind or lame cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it’s inhabitants… even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)

Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)

For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death. (Exodus 35:2)

If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his Cores, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity. (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)

If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)


Expecting your reply. Also tilapia's and Image123 (if he's still available)

Waiting for you Oyedepo lackeys to respond to this!

Oyedepo is a fraud and a bully. Yahoo boys have more honour than this fraud and other charlatans like him.
keep your 'touch not my annointed' for people who too lazy to read the bible for themselves.