₦airaland Forum

IDENNAA:
@Sufferingboy , read the above post and see the ability of a sane human to make distinction between tribal affiliations and political affiliation. This guy is proud to be Ika but also understands that the struggle for secession is right and just.

You make it very hard for people to believe you are Ika. You think only Igbo are being marginalized ? If a crisis breaks out in the north Ika will not be spared because the north don't even know you exist. You are grouped as Igbo.

That dude is a drunk fisherman, I can bet my balls on that. Don't allow a clown deceive you.

Sufferingboy:
You can only deceive your fellow Ipob members with this your write up.Nairalanders know the truth about [s]Igbo hate and propaganda towards Ika people[/s]...

Ijaw hate and propaganda should be the rightful sentence.

Sufferingboy:
No nor be Izon,na fulani.

Na only people I done see wey nor dey learn like face reality.Too much emotion.

It's obvious you are becoming jittery. Stop deceiving yourself. Where's BishopMagic and other Izon clowns to come fight for you.

You opened a useless thread to profile an ethnic group, but met the wrong response.

Sufferingboy:
I am an Ika and we don't insult Igbos but their hatred no go let them let us get peace of mind.

Day and night they are busy insulting us.

You're not Ika. Claim your Izon tribe and stop acting funny.

Igbos didn't send Kanu work. Meanwhile an Ijaw man should focus on his tribe and stop dragging Igbos into Kanu's mess.

Sufferingboy:
Where am I from? I am a fulani right?

Which Fulani. You're a drunk fisherman.

Nnamdi Kanu won't be executed. The government will use him for political expediency at the right time.

Sufferingboy:
You go cry tire.When you guys were busy insulting Ika people,una nor remember say 2moro get belle.

You are not an Ika man, don't deceive yourself clown. We know your antecendent.

Isiburu is the Igbo doctrine of on your own. What an elder sees standing, a child will never see even if he climbs the highest palm tree. This thread is not to mock Mazi Nnamdi Kanu or appraise his arrest but set the record straight. Many of us saw this coming from the onset. You don't win an agitation from a position of weakness, let alone create enemies for yourself by burning all friendly bridges. A group headed by illiterates will only run in circles.

When we said that IPOB and Kanu were on a suicide mission, many of our kinsmen called us names. From the decimation of ESN to the arrest and extradition of Kanu, it's obvious that we were right after all.

While we watch as events unfold with the trial of Nnamdi Kanu resuming on Tuesday, it's evident that prison might become the IPOB leader's new home, unless if the government pardon him for political expediency. Without that, I see no one standing as surety for Mazi Nnamdi Kanu. Those who stood before have learnt their lessons and won't attempt such again.

Like Kanu, like Uwazuruike. Pity that many sheeps were led to the slaughter all thanks to their ignorance. The Igbo nation are too smart to allow a band of noisemakers lead them into destruction. When we need a leadership for our betterment, we'll proceed with our intellectuals. And when we want to let our voices be heard, it will surely be through a national conference or through the ballot box.

We hope that Kanu is given a speedy trial. He should be kept safe from the hands of those who might want to cause another Yusuf conundrum. And if found guilty face his warrant. Nobody send am work.

Idiko1:
Is there any need to prove wrong to be bad? The first so-called newspaper in western region of Nigeria did not start in Abeokuta. I guess the so-called TV station also took seat in Abeokuta.

Iwe Irohin was the first newspapers but built by the missionaries to evangelize the Egba people. But you must be clever not to allow that dude divert from the main point, which is ancient civilization.

Igbos can list their ancient innovations as this thread assumes, the Yoruba univited guest should open their own thread and list their ancient civilization rather than act petty.

I don't know when first this and first that of modern times became ancient civilization.

Captain8:
shut up..there was such as Ijaw.... Ijaw is what europeans use to called Izo'n....

we were the real business men with the europeans

Which Ijaw? Jos or Uzo. Europeans never recorded anything beautiful about your savage ancestors. Their sub-human nature made them unfit to be used as slaves in American plantation. Only a reasonable handful with mix Igbo/Izon blood around the Brass areas where captured by the Nembe royalty to be shipped to the new world.

Bonny, Nembe, Kalabari etc were founded by Igbos before Portuguese porters from Togo came to populate the swamps. While the Oru/Olu and later Aboh had the River Niger down to Bayelsa under their control, the Ndoki, Abam and Aro's were incharge of activities in Bonny and Kalabari (New Calabar). All the Kings with Igbo heritage like the Amachree (Amakiri), Pepple, (From Pepper), ran the trade first with the Abam businessmen before slaves became the mainstay that brought the Aro into the picture.

If you can bring up any colonial research were Izons were appraised in high-esteem I'll give up my claims?

Group with tactics, Tigray Defence Forces. Not rabble rousers without strategy led by one Supreme Leader in London.

I smell lies.

YouWillNotWin:
Trust me I don't trust in IPOB lol, I don't do religious fanaticism things....

I undestand you want the best for Ndigbo, but thinking that IPOB has anything to offer is a waste of time.

Op where you got it wrong was believing that Biafra will come and still trusting in IPOB.

Nigeria has a better chance of restructuring than division. And IPOB have nothing to offer Ndigbo and will fizzle out like MASSOB, their elder brothers. Igbo will rise back to recknoning, but never through Biafra.

And even if Nigeria agrees to partways, a charismatic Igbo group led by intellectuals will lead us to the promised land. First beginning wilth political emancipation and ending it will true liberation.

Activist001:
I'm from Imo state and I'm also live and direct in Owerri, Imo state as I type right now. Where are you?

Bia, did you really think sensible and productive Igbos listen to IPOB propaganda and that runaway conman named Nnamdi Kanu? Do you really think that way?

You're a real ewu Gambia I swear, worshiping a conman and fighting authorities all because a run away "supreme leader" who is currently enjoying his life in a better country told you to do so. Why didn't he come and fight from the front?

Joblessness is probably your problem so I blame Buhari. If you had something tangible to spend your day doing, you wouldn't have time to be listening to IPOB propaganda all day, everyday.

Efulefu.

Lol! IPOB clowns are lost sheep. Just forget them.

FakeUnity:
Hiding yet hammering your pro-abokey skulls on per second billing. A man in hiding that single-handedly cleared the criminal police extortionists from Eastern roads.

Abegi! Make we hear word. Lamentation thread. No do no do, una no gree.

FakeUnity:
E pain your pro-abokey skull. Tell Ozodimgba the yellow gorilla with a stolen mandate to go and rule from Ikonso house and stop hiding like a rat..

Say that without crying bloody noisemaker. We don see una finish. I learnt the London scammer went hiding.

IPOB/PDP mumu. Don't go and get a life.

fergie001:
Don't attack him....

Lagos PDP died with Funsho Williams. From Obanikoro, then to Agbaje to the very least dey payroll.

PDP will be lying if they say they aren't aware....it's been going on for years.

Exactly. They cash out codely while keep deceiving gulible PDP Lagos members.

Jimi Agbaje is not far from the accusation! If two famous PDP Governorship flagbearers in the persons of Obanikoro and Agbaje could be houseboys of Jagaban, it means that Tinubu isn't relinquishing power anytime soon.

PDP needs to come to Lagos to understand Politics 101 from Jagaban. Abeg whoever has Tinubu number should connect me, I have something to tell him.

Ogunsanya Abimbola Good one Hope! Better Governor.

Tranquill:
Oga stop clowning and read the paper again. Even before the war, the Igbo controlled Eastern government recognized Ikwerre among the minorities and not as Igbo. Ikwerre never identified as Igbo. They had minority representatives and Igbo representatives. Infact the person that raised the famous 'minority question' at the assembly was the late Ikwerre lawyer Wobidike Wonodi (SAN).

It was this question that actually made some Igbo leaders to start insulting the minorities exposing the evil agenda they planned if the war succeeded, that made some minorities to rethink their initial support. People like KO Mbadiwe were boasting saying things like "who the hell are the minorities"? Interestingly, he was among the Igbos that used the money meant to buy weapons for the war, to buy houses in London.

Ojukwu was using the assembly as a smokescreen. He never took decisions based on their opinions or recommendations.

All fallacy. Bring evidence to back your claims and not beer parlour gist. When you tell an injurous lie as the above, bring up evidence and stop these outdated my father told me stories. A lot of independent reports and articles has proven the above stories as false.

Igboid:
Biafra name is not the problem.

The boundary can easily be modified to read : IGBO ONLY.
Afterall, MNK and IPOB is not even using the 1967 map.
They are including any one whose mama "tie two wrapper" , which include Igala, Idoma , Urhobo, Isoko, and who knows who else

The name is not the issue. The leader, objective, vision, goes and method, are the problems.

Don't get it twisted.

Ok no problem if you say so.

Igboid:
Biafra is and will always be Igbo.

It's part and parcel of Igbo history.

I don't think we should discard the name Biafra.
I think we should keep it, but redefine and refine it to read:IGBO ONLY.

And since other Minorities who played part in the history of first Biafra had dissociated from it.
We will do a good job erasing any part of history that involves non Igbo participation in Biafra.

BIAFRA as a name evokes patriotism in the heart of Igbos. It's more than just a name.

We shouldn't discard it.

This is one problem with you people that has made you continue to loose the prize. Ojukwu's Biafra from his Ahiara manifesto exudes black pride and freedom of the black race. But Nnamdi Kanu's Biafra is all about Judaism.

If you want us to keep Biafra then you should get ready for more controversies. More scammers hijacking it, more illiterates fine-tunning it to soothe their ego and the likes. Nothing stops anyone from honouring the fallen Biafra heroes, but one thing contant in life is change. A new name but the old Biafran flag can be maintained.

Igboid:
Nature will take it's course on IPOB if they don't restructure and become plainly Igbo. Republic fighting group.
They will simply outlive their usefulness with time the more Igbo commoners understand our history with minorities, the more IPOB or any one promoting Multiethnic BIAFRA in Igboland will become a pariah.


You don't have to worry about that.

You still don't understand my point. Biafra will always be a multi-ethnic and faulty agenda regardless of who is spearheading it. Biafra is not about Ndigbo, it was never.

So the earlier this Biafran is discarded for a true Igbo nation with a strategy the better. And when that new stance emerges, it must involve in local politics as the Scottish party of Scotland and that of Wales is doing in Britain.

Igboid:
Germans got overambitious.
They already got all their lands and still had to stupidly March into Russia. That's why they lost more.
And either way, Germans were aggressors in both wars. Ours is/was one of defense.

I agree with you about the over-ambitiousness of the German. Nnamdi Kanu is becoming the aggressor and Hitler in our own case and must be destroyed at all cost.

Igboid:
Yes Biafra war caused lots of issues for Ndiigbo.
It would take a second war to correct things.

Unlike you, I don't believe there's is a political solution to this situation.

We just have to hang on long enough and make sure this final battle will not be one we are forced into at Emergency point.
It should be a well planned generational one. If we fail to put enough resources together, we can hand it over to our children.

We can try playing the political game as temporary measure while we plan the final battle as long term plan.
One we will fight with international allies and enough weapons.

That's my take on this.

Abi a 2nd war. Just like the Germans fought a 2nd war inorder to reclaim their lost territories to France and Britain, only to lose more lands. But I agree with you about fighting with allies of which we arent ready now.
First of all, Biafra must phase out. IPOB, MASSOB, BIM must all be flushed out for a new group that understands the game. Anything that has it's connection to Biafra must die a natural death for a true Igbo stance.

Igboid:
You can forgive Okpara and Zik for ignoring the danger the Ijaws posed to the region and Ndiigbo as a whole.
They didn't have any antecedents to work with.
It doesn't make sense that the Ijaws would bring in the Hausa-Fulanis and scatter the whole region when they too would suffer from such scenario.
Okpara probably thought they were dealing with a people capable of rational reasoning.

So you we can forgive them, even though we are disappointed they weren't shrewd and strategic enough to see things better, but they can nevertheless be forgiven.

But what do you say about modern day mad men that call themselves IPOB and their leadership promoting multi ethnic BIAFRA with these same Ijaws?
I see some of them calling Ijaws "our brothers" and I just shake my head. This is reminiscent of an "Abuzu" burning on fire and kidding itself that it's producing oil and looking shiny.

The stupidity is mind-blowing.

Eastern Ijaws share same blood connection with Ndigbo. A lot of mixing happened by virtue of mass Ijaw migration from the west to the east where they mingled with the natives. If you read ancient Kalabari, Okrika and Bonny history, you'll see that they told the British voyagers that their ancestral home is in Igboland. Any wonder why all their Kings claimed Igbo descent, from King Amachree to Pepple name them.

Biriye is still an enigma as only god knows where he came from. Even when Biriye was going about his shenanigan you could see that he was a one man show like Muric. The defeat of Biafra gave him an opportunity to cement his pre-independence northern alliance where Balewa promised a federal controlled Ijaw state if the NDC voted for them.

The Biafra war caused a lot of damaged for Ndigbo and the east. Take look at the map to see one of the effect. 1. Igbo denial syndrome and total wipe out of Igbo connections in the riverine areas. 2. Igboland and map shrinked from the coast to only the small hinterland.

Igboid:
This is why I insist on Igbo only country.

Minorities are nothing but draw backs to us. These lots don't reason well.

A Region was ran from 1938 to 1956 with Coal from Enugu and palm oil from mainly Igboland, AkwaCross and Igboid upper RIVERS ( Ikwerre, Ogba,etc) and taxation of the citizens.
Then immediately they discovered oil in your Region, and not only your own region o! Igbo regions had oil too, you went and brought in vipers and burnt down the house.

And what was Zik and Okpara doing when he was bringing in these vipers? Zik might be forgiven cause he had his eyes on the centre, but Okpara was too politically amateur not to see the game played by NPC in his own backyard.

I think Igbos needs to understand the political game and forget about this Biafra for now. The cards are stack against us. The first thing to do is to play the politics right, even if it's to align with other group to seize power from the north.

Igboid:
Eastern region hardly got any money from crude oil before the war broke out.
The region was reliant on dwindling palm oil revenue and PAYE taxation of citizens the Finance minister, Imoke introduced.

The very idea that Niger Delta was being exploited of it's oil spinned by Boro was a blatant lie!
Oloibiri was running in 1956, but Afam uku oil well came on board in 1957 and Owaza came on board in 1958. Both Afam uku and Owaza are in Igboland.
Shell made payment only thrice to Nigeria before the war.
I attached it below.

Boro was demonic. The East wasn't running on crude oil before the war.

You could see from the research that Oil was simply an excuse used by Boro to excute his scam 12 days revolution. The initial idea was already planned by Biriye and NPC before independence for an exclusive Ijaw state controlled by the federal government. I see Biriye's brainwashing of Boro that led the youngman to carry out such ignorant move. Biriye himself is not even a Bonny proper but a migrant from god knows where who failed politically in Bonny. Failed politically even in his own Ijawland and resorted to tribalism to so that his party NDC can gain acceptance in the riverine areas.

Even when the NPC was fighting for an exclusive Rivers region, you could see that the Kalabari chiefs were not in support of them but wanted a COR region with alliance with the NCNC and Ndigbo. The same thing played out during the creation of Bayelsa. Kalabari was cajoled to join before standing ground that they arent going anywhere but want to be a part of Port-Harcourt state with the Uplanders.

Pazi hope you can now see where I told you that Rivers state from inception has been programmed by north to remain anti-Igbo. A Port-Harcourt state would have broken that deadlock, but unfortunately Obi Wali was murdered by Abacha sponsored cultists to kill that dream.

2elliot:
Boro is the reason why we came down from 50% derivation to a meagre 13%. Boro was an agent. If not, how did a common university student have access to weapons and money to gather hundreds of people to prosecute a war? Someone some where sponsored him. And again, if oil discovery and exploration happened in oloibiri in 1956 and 1958, it is very suspicious why Boro would seek for resource control just a mere 8yrs after. There were fewer oil field discovered then, so what could have inform him to take such a drastic action. I equally suspect that shell was involved in the crisis. Because at no time has the crisis rocking Nigeria has put a stop in oil exploration. Even during the civil war, oil Still flowed.

Though I've read several research that implicated Boro and his northern connections with Ahmadu Bello, but never believed it until the exposition by Boro's younger brother.

Boro and Biriye long sold the Niger-Delta to the north for political emancipation of the Ijaws from the so-called monster Igbos. Now I see why north keep saying their groundnut helped with the oil. I guess the groundnut money meant the tactic support they gave Biriye and Boro.