₦airaland Forum

Kirigidi:
You problem is ignorance! You know nothing about Warri. Who are the people of Okere? For your information, the palace of the Orosuen of Okre-Urhobo Kingdom is located right there in the heart of Okere. Even the permanent secretariat of Okere-Urhobo Youths was built closed to the Okere Market and you dare not park by its gates. People who live in Warri can confirm these to you: Every tribe knows her boundaries in Warri. The Olu's authority is restricted to only the Itsekiri parts of Warri and he never trespasses into Urhobo communities in Warri such as Edjeba, Ogunu, Agbassa, Okere-Urhobo, Okurode-Urhobo, Okumagba, Igbudu, Essi, Ukpokiti, etc. When the Itsekiris are doing their feasts, they do not carry their procession into Urhobo territories in Warri. The Itsekiris are matured and civilized people. They are not like you IPOBians trying to instigate division in Warri because we rejected Biafra!

oniovo you should ignore these iPod people.. am glad the new generation urhobo/itsekiri youth like us are wise, he just wants to create issue so we can attack itsekiri.

dejavski:
some similar ilaje words:
Man: Okoro(old ilaje)/Okonren
Coconut: Kokodia
Pig: Ehi
Plate: Ahete(old ilaje)/awo
Town: Oja
Market: Obon

Talk: fo/ ofo
Sea god: Umalokun
River deity: umale and ayelala
Wealth/Fortune: Uwa

Nana: stretch
i want to rest/sleep: aji mi nana ara gboje/mo fe nana ara mi
How are u: Ko se gha?
Ilaje salutation: mo ki gha dede oma ilaje omuro...Ayemafuge!(i greet u sons and daughters of ilaje)

mo ki aghan omiwerre dede
btw...my mother's ancestral path is an Oton jibefun oh...

onuwaje come and see this, 80% itsekiri.. I said it earlier, ondo will understand itsekiri without any problem, I can't say same for those in Lagos.

darediamond:
Itsekiri people are Yoruba's.

If you say so, but I think you should respect their decision, the op an itsekiri man acknowledged the fact that itsekiri is a dialect of Yoruba, he even said his ancestors migrated from ijebu, truth is that you can't separate itsekiri from Yoruba when it comes to language, but they choose a new identity. let us not fight over this.

@deedeee3 I doubt if you have ever met with any itsekiri man b4, see the way you they throw jab give itsekiri people, some itsekiri's are pro Yoruba have met some even Here on nairaland e. g asaimaigho is pro Yoruba, while some are pro ND, so it's left for them to decide if they want to belong to oduduwa or not

realestworld:
thanks sir. warri spoil most of us, and I notice most of your post is about upholding and protecting your language/ culture like you're getting paid for it.
ANTICIPATING. THANKS SIR

Its our duty to defend our land /language/culture, lol yes sure warri don spoil most of una, where in urhobo are you from?

FisifunKododada:
Again not true. The language called Olukunmi is a Yoruba language NOT Igbo. Yes, I have heard that some Olukunmis now see themselves as Igbos.

now if I may ask how do you intend claiming those people?, just forget about it and forcus on what you have @hand. to me olukimi only exist online.

realestworld:
bros abeg create urhobo thread. GATS learn my language.

oniovo no wahala, will do just that and I will definitely mention you. make I alert my guy Mathias about this development .

FisifunKododada:
Not true. Olukunmis speak a more Yoruba language than Itshekiris.


Me too. I will like to meet some of them.

lolx.. you really haven't listen to an itsekiri man speaking, those from ondo can understand him clearly, the olukumis only bear Yoruba name, they ain't yoruboid believe me, they are more igbo.

FisifunKododada:
Efewestern - do you know anything about the Olukunmis another Yoruba group in Delta state?

nope, haven't met any of them before, I think yoruboid ends in itsekiri land.

only heard of olukunmis online

ezeagu:
True, also Itsekiri were big traders, so languages of trading communities usually have lots of influence or influence others more.

yes sure, am glad you learnt some few tins tonight.. I also learnt some few words in igbo like iko" .

cheers.

OROSUNBOLB:
You claimed in your earlier post that Itshekiri are 'hybrid ' people- mixture of Yoruba,Bini and their Neighbours as you pu it. The question is do the Binis and 'their Neighbours' understand any of the words you have posted so far? The reason for that question is that as a Yoruba man,I understand clearly the meaning and usage of every word you put up there 'cause they are my words-my language! My point is very simple- the Itshekiri are Yoruba. You may disagree with me but that is a fact bro.

bini and urhobo might not understand itsekiri language because the itsekiri language is purely yoruboid, they only borrowed some words from those tribe why maintaining their original Yoruba dialect.

if you read from the front page no body disputed the fact that itsekiri is yoruboid, even the op onuwaje who is an itsekiri man acknowledged the fact that itsekiri language is a Yoruba dialect, as for you claim about itsekiri been yoruba, I think your should respect their stance on this.

They choose to call themselves itsekiri, why not respect their decision, speaking same language and bearing same name with you don't make someone a member of your tribe.

please let's not derail this thread. thanks

kn23h:
Now, stop disturbing us with those words stolen from Yoruba people.

bro relax, I think you need to counter his claim. this is an educative thread, not meant for ewar.

just table your matter for ground, bring up the Yoruba words to that.

ezeagu:
Sure, some of the words are shared with Yoruba as well like Yoruba ogun (twenty) and Igbo ọgụ (twenty).

Some words that are similar here are:

Itsekiri - Igbo
ekpetin (box) - akpati
ukpo (bed) - ukpo (platform)
uko (cup) - iko
okérén (man) - okenye
okoro (man) - okoro
aféré (wind) - ufere (breeze/wind)
esin (pig) - ezi
etin (ear) - nti
tolotolo (turkey) - tolotolo

Just a little similar is Itsekiri soro (stand) and Igbo wuzo (stand)

nice , we all share some words together.. simply put we evolve within

kn23h:
Teach us more please.

I don't understand itsekiri o, but if you want to know some urhobo words that's similar to itseke I can help you out.



Ésété (plate) in urhobo it's o'sete same meaning, Ukujéré (spoon) same in urhobo , uda (sword/cutlass) in urhobo it's oda which means cutlass .

simply put, itsekiri is a mixture of Yoruba and urhobo /edo, although 70% of the language are Yoruba words.

Nicho118:
it's the other way round

apart from uko and kokodie, there are many urhobo words there I don't want to derail the thread.

ezeagu:
Some of these words are similar to Igbo.

no doubt we all share some few words together, like in urhobo we call blood obara same with you but pronounciation is slightly different, you can as well point out the itsekiri word you think it's igbo.

we are all learning.

streetsoldier1:
Sound so much like ilaje/ikale language

yes, if you read my earlier post I said almost same with ondo dialect, never mind itsekiri still remains a key branch of Yoruba language. a dialect of Yoruba.

but their identity still remains same.

ITSEKIRI.

Origin:
Wa do.


This sounds yoruba/ijebu. Great lecture by the way. Can you include audio clips so we can get pronunciation right.

are you itsekiri?

I think the pronouciation is similar to that of Yoruba.

ZaraGift:
Urhobo borrowed the words from Itsekiri

uko doesn't sound yoruboid, so how can itsekiri own it? uko and kokodie are pure urhobo word, no doubt urhobo borrowed some words from itsekiri.

kn23h:
Is this a Yoruba dialect

onuwaje:
the Itsekiri is a dialect of the yoruba language that has huge influence from Benin, Urhobo and Ilaje

I hope I answered your question.

Amarabae:
Okay. That itsekiri attire tho. Its scary to me.

how is it scary.. lol..

yarimo:
[s] meanwhile mumu NNAMDI KANU and IPOBIANS right now [/s]

Wenti concern warri concern ipob? na wa you o.. position well make you nor collect slap.

taoheedoriloye:
one love to you.
But why and how we are so divided like this.we don't See each other as one people.
who divided us?

divide ke, who is dividing who?

seun
lalasticlala
afam4ever abeg help us promote this thread.

not every time we read things about itsekiri, help promote their identity.. please.

onuwaje:
ofe means love (ife in yoruba)

so ofemi means my love I guess.
you forgot to add one more thing to this thread. itsekiri cuisine.
oghwo ewa same as oghwo isha (urhobo)

onuwaje:
Oritseofemi that's d best Itsekiri translation i can transcribe for now lol

what's the meaning of ofemi? i was thinking he combined itsekiri oriste and Yoruba femi since his mom is Yoruba.

@onuwaje is femi an itsekiri word cous it's only oristefemi that's bearing that name as itsekiri

Cuddlebugie:
That i know. What i don't know is the number of dialects/languages itshekiri shares its lexicon with.

Yoruba, with little influence from urhobo and edo

OAUTemitayo:
I know the numbers. So many words there are familiar with Yoruba so I understand them immediately.
I must learn Itsekiri.

some words are borrowed from urhobo, They make use of "ts" why Yoruba make use of "sh" but I think they are pronounced same way, the itsekiri language is said to b same with the one spoken in ondo, I don't know how true this Is.

like oriste / orisha
tsola / shola
atuwatse / atuwashe

the op can list more for you, so learning it won't b difficult.

cc:
seun and lalasticlala do the needful

Cuddlebugie:
Too many loan words up there.
Poster, how many languages or dialects, as the case may be, does Itshekiri share lexicon with?

itsekiri have only one dialect, they speak same.

OAUTemitayo:
Interesting.
Thank you Efewestern.
I have the intention of marrying an Itsekiris all things being equal

itsekiri ladies are dark and beautiful, nice choice. so do you understand anything the op wrote?

onuwaje:
more on Itsekiri greeting and response
1. Bokór? (how re u )
response: mo winór ( i am fine)

2. Ara dé? (hope u are well or how body in pidgin)
response: Ara mi ( i am well)

to be continued

BEDC Is messing me up

that's y you need a good lasting battery, my 4,000mah last me for 12 hrs and I charge for only 1:30mins.

onuwaje:
same here i am in cell 003 lol
sorry for not mentioning u earlier
BEDC so i was in a hurry
pls apologies..

yea Itsekiri is a distinct dialect with the Yoruba language so as we go on u will see many similarities

remember i have always said
itsekiri is an hybrid tribe
mixture of Yoruba,Benin and their neighbours

@bolded is itsekiri a dialect or a language.

the only benin influence I can see in itsekiri is the culture, apart from that I don't think itsekiri share anything with Benin again, was having a convoc with a guy about this and he said itsekiri migrated from Benin, but I was told itsekiri only adopted a beni prince.

You can as well list names of animals.

OAUTemitayo and other pro itsekiri on this forum I think this thread will be interesting to you.

cheers!!!

cc: seun, lalasticlala, please move this to fp when the op finishes with his writing.