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Na this kind nonsense I no fit understand......

How person go wear trouser whey jump up, on top of suit......

This things my eyes have seen in the midst of this indomie generation.

Congrats to the couple, we know say money no be problem........

vizkiz:
Basic reason why i don't involve myself in anything political.

Yes oooo! Including commenting in the political section of Nairaland.......

alBHAGDADI:
Hello everyone,

Today I will be speaking on why Jesus is flogging your Church instead of blessing it. I know someone will be quick to say the Church he attends is not getting flogged because it is blessed materially. He might be quick to point to the fact that his church is fully air-conditioned, has a beautiful stage with purple lightenings and the members flood the parking space with cars. That's not the kind of blessing I'm talking about.

Many Churches are spiritually dead, but have ascribed material possession to mean they are alive. A Church which can't perform miracles, which doesn't go soulwinning, doesn't care for homeless people is not blessed but is getting flogged by Jesus. There are certain things such a Church could be doing wrong for them to be dead spiritually. Today, I will be speaking on one of them. Let's start by reading the passage below.


John 2:13-16

13 Now the Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 And He found in the temple those who sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the money changers doing business. 15 When He had made a whip of cords, He drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen, and poured out the changers’ money and overturned the tables. 16 And He said to those who sold doves, “Take these things away! Do not make My Father’s house a house of merchandise!”

Why do you think Jesus flogged those in the temple in Jerusalem? [b]Because they sold items in the temple thereby turning it into a market place. [/b]That is exactly what many Churches have beceom today. At the entrance or at one corner of churches today, you will find a table which showcases books, CDs, anointing oil, stickers etc being sold. You can even find a restaurant or a kiosk around where donut and drinks are sold. All of that is turning the house of God into a market place.

You might be quick to say there is nothing bad about that because it is just food sold in case members go hungry. Also, the CDs and books contain messages of great pastors like Kenneth Hagin, Joyce Meyers, Joel Osteen, E.A Adeboye, Bishop Oyedepo etc; you say they pertain to the word of God. You might be smart to say those Jesus Christ was angry at for selling at the temple in Jerusalem was because they sold things like doves, oxen, sheep, and not things like books. You might also be quick to say those sheep, oxen and doves have nothing to do with God, but books and CDs containing messages of great pastors have a lot to do with God.

Have you ever asked why those people decided to go sell sheep, oxen and doves at the temple when it is not a pet store or a farm? They took those things there because people needed them for the things of God. Back then, when you want to pay your tithe with farm produce but the produce are too big to carry from your own City to Jerusalem, it is allowed to sell the produce then go to Jerusalem with the money. When you get to Jerusalem, you can now use the money to buy anything ranging from sheep, oxen, dove, wheat etc which you can now drop at the temple. That's why those business men moved their wares closer to the temple so as to be closer to customers (sharp guys).

Can you now see that just as your CDs, anointing oil and books have something to do with God, the sheep and oxen also do? They also have another thing in common: they are being sold in the house of God. That's when Jesus Christ comes in with a whip because you all have angered Him and turned His Father's house into a market place.

It's even worse in today's Churches because the pamphlet or bulletin printed for the day's sermon also includes adverts of businesses in the local community. What we should expect next: billboards and posters hanging all over the walls in a Church advertising soft drinks and other products.

You might build the biggest cathedral, but a little disobedience can be dangerous for the congregation. Instead of getting blessed spiritually such that people see vision, dream dreams, speaking in a foreign language and perform miracles, they are getting flogged and blinded away from the truth. May God help us all.


Kindly show this to your pastor or an elder in your Church.

Reading such things like this on the internet breaks me up in ways only God can understand.

Friends, who are reading, anytime you see things like this anywhere on the internet, remember these 2 scriptures

Matthew 11:28 -29
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Hebrews 5:11-12
11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.

12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

Matthew 11:28-29 is a very common scripture that is used to preach to exhort soon-to-be converts. But there is something people miss in verse 29.

Take my yoke upon you and learn from me

In other words, take a portion of my burden, my baggage, my responsibility and learn from me. I am meek - humility in the midst of power & authority - and lowly - raw, circumstantial humility - in heart and you shall find rest for your souls.

There are those who take up responsibility within local churches but learn nothing from Him, there are those who take no burden nor place nor responsibility anywhere but seek to learn from him (the first set may be filled with a certain level of understanding/knowledge but no wisdom and the second set may be filled with wisdom but lack understanding/knowledge to appropriate that wisdom. Strangely enough the second set are typically the most zealous and outspoken of the 2... )

There are those who don't subscribe to any of the 2, (either learning from Him nor taking His yoke) and insist that they are Christians and children of God......

The Bible says that the Lord knows those who are His (2Timothy 2:19) so it not my place to judge anyone.....

But I believe those who dedicate themselves to taking His yoke and learning from him, tend towards maturity and can hardly make this kind comment OP is blasting like this.....

Hebrews 5:11 uses an expression "dull of hearing". What does this connote?

When Jesus was leaving, he made a solemn promise, which some people fail to tap into. In John14:26 Jesus said

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The bible declares boldly in several instances including Revelations 2:29, " He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit is saying......."

My question? Have you seriously considered all this comment in your post in the place of prayer. Does the Spirit of God endorse/agree with this your line of commentary.

Jesus Christ Himself said "I build my church....", there is but one church and that is the Church of Jesus Christ, the general assembly of the First born which are written in heaven (Heb 12-23). A local assembly of believers, under the banner of a ministry, lead by a man/woman with a passion which may be born out of a calling of God or a righteous desire is not the Whole church of Jesus Christ.

And as such what goes there, is not an automatic reflection of what is happening in the whole body/Church of Jesus Christ, as seen or heard (either through visions, dreams or other forms of revelation) in the realms of the Spirit.

You are not the first to make this kind of blunder.

When Jezebel sought to kill the prophet elijah, he went before the presence of God in the mountains and sought to die, since - according to him - God has abandoned all the prophets and allowed jezebel/ahab to hold sway in sin and evil, and how they have killed all the prophets and he was the last one alive (1kings 19 from verse 11).

But God corrected him and made him to understand that he was only one of 7,000 prophets who were still alive and hadn't succumbed to idol worship under Ahab/Jezebel.

I can boldly say, based on personal bible study, that Elymas in the bible represents the perfect minister for the unflogged church based on your requirements, except that he sought to pervert the way of the Lord - for he was a sorcerer.

But then again, only a man who knows the truth, knows when it is in danger of perversion.

I do not believe that a church or local assembly is under "flogging" as you call it, in the absence of miracles, soulwinning and care for the homeless because I know that William Braham was not guilty of any of what you mentioned but still suffered a flogging. Why?

Because of disobedience. Some of the things you mentioned may have nothing to do with what the Lord sent you as a ministry to do, the core focus of the ministry.

I know an NGO whose focus is to teach karate to Women above 45years of age in some communities in the southern part of Africa and in kenya, why?

Because the superstitious belief of the people is that the cure to STD's of all kind is sex with an old woman. Hence the culture of sexual harassment and rape towards old women is rampant.

Along the line, they preach the Gospel.

But what if another zealous person challenges them ( like some JW people sometimes do) and say fighting is ungodly/sinful, hence teaching old women to fight is wrong.

Whose counsel are they expected to follow?! Are they expected to abandon what God told them to do to fulfill people's requirements of a sinless church/ministry or an "unflogged" church?

Also your reference to the money changers isn't complete! Why? Because the money changers existed in the temple before the days of Jesus, when the land was very much ruled by Jewish kings.

And there was nothing wrong with their presence in the temple. But what was wrong with their presence in the temple under the rule of the roman empire is clearly seen/elaborated in Matthew 21:12-13, Mark 11:17 and Luke 19:46.......

Matthew21:12-13

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

They were cheating the people and that's why Jesus called them thieves.


Proverbs16:11 A just weight and balance are the Lord's: all the weights of the bag are his work.

Leviticus 19:36 Just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I am the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt.

Proverbs11:1 A false balance is abomination to the Lord: but a just weight is his delight.



He called them thieves because they had turned money changing to business and were profiting heavily from it, and God had warned the people severally against usury and unethical business practices before the arrival of Jesus, so He drove them out without hesitation.

As for adverts, in Bulletins? I grew up in a catholic home, though I eventually left the catholic church. In those days Bulletin used to be free, but at a time it was sold for 1kobo, then 50kobo, then 2 was sold for #5 - it was #2.50 as recent as 1996. I have no idea what it is right now, but I do know that church finances isnt what some people think it is.

I once walked into a mega church where a friend of mine served as accountant within, the country and was impressed with its beauty.

But by the time, me and my friend dey gist, the people that really keep that place going - financially in terms of running cost of diesel for generator, servicing AC, generator, renting chairs, decorations are not up to 8 ) in a church of over 2,000 persons.

People that pay tithe consistently are not more than 150 and that includes the staff strength of 60 - deacons, pastors, cleaners, security guard etc and majority of the people are civil servants.

So in whatever way any ministry chooses to source for revenue to maintain it operations - in my opinion oooh - is okay, as long as it doesnt contradict the purpose of which the ministry was raised nor the word of God nor bring/reduce the work of God already on ground to rubble .

The reality of the Matter is that there are ministries that have become big and there are those that are not there yet, so church finance is a very difficult/tricky thing to navigate.

What a ministry does in a bid to raise funds is a reflection of the attitude/kind of members they have. Thats why when I see churches laying charges on things like baptism, prayers or deliverance, I feel sorry for them, because it means that the congregation are not doing their role in the house of God and that Pastor may have given in to temptation.

Nevertheless, there is a difference between between transfering cost and usury.

If as a man of God, for example you are led to anoint water and make it available to your members in their private time, it shouldn't necessarily become a business venture in my own opinion, except he is Led to use it as a way of raising money by God (the bible is replete with examples).

It could even be that a man of God or Pastor wants to make it available for all. But what happens when you cannot afford right away to make it available 100% free.

In my opinion, a wise person/administrator will have to bottle the water after it has been prayed for and transfer the cost of such to people . Or seek for people who will partner with him to sponsor that project - this happens alot of times but carnal folks misread/interpret it most times as a pastor trying to steal.

A ministry may decide to buy rollers and filters and package the water through the exact same process as bottled water (which is a good practice, if you are going to encourage them to drink it) some may decide to buy already bottled water and just pray on it, some may decide to even use water from water dispensers and just create bottles and fill them up.

In the end, there is nothing wrong with selling such things in church. Its the way you go about it that matters.

Nevertheless, my advise is to pray for Pastors because, all things are lawful but not all things may be expedient to them according to the call they have received

sarahade:
It's very possible sir. I'm a witness

In that case, welcome to menopause.....

Optionally:
Please I'm just asking for a friend if it's possible for the vagina not to have any odour at all

Impossible

HungerBAD:
Selfish people.

It is interesting to note that none of the defecting Senators have stated that the reason they want to defect is because of bad governance.

None.

Unfortunately, this is where we are now in 2018. A place where the welfare of the common man(voter) is far down the food chain.

Since when has this particular administration done anything that was in the interest of the welfare of the common man, that is besides the welfare of fulani/APC folks........

tiredoflife:
Uniben is not the standard of the English language
Its either u use still or you use yet
You can't say still yet
It is wrong

I was going to give you something to think again but when I saw your moniker "tiredoflife".......

tiredoflife:
Still and yet can't be in a sentence
Both are conjunctions
You either use still or yet not both

Trust me "Still yet" is a Hall 3/4 thang, in UNIBEN year.

If you know, you know.

hipswrites:
Super clean.
Got no issues
Nigerian used.
Neatly used.


Location: Abuja
Price 700k.

Manual or auto gear?

The "Igbo Amaka" crew will soon appear.......

Ooooh they are already here.....

But seriously, upon all Buhari Media Centre did to rubbish her reputation, still yet she came out tops. While Buhari is seen as the scourge of the earth abroad.

Can't keep a good woman down, no matter how many likes your disgusting comments against her on Nairaland or facebook generate.....

Nbote:
Wait ooo!! So A senator cannot com and commission his own projects again?? D state govt isn't working, local govt completely dead, and yet d little someone is doing dey are keen on destroying and blocking... Where's dat sarrki dat reasons with his Anus

Somewhere licking whatever comes out from Lai Mohammed and Buhari's Anus.......

BluntBoy:
She was not body shamed. No one said that her body is ugly. They only told her to wear clothes that would compliment her body size. There are clothes that would fit big women like her. This one does not fit her. Moreover, she does not look good posing like that. The pose looks childish.

This is not body shaming.

Oya as she did not want to wear the dress you nominated for her to wear, go and call INEC...

lightblazingnow:
They call them " daddy's, G.O, Papa, and the likes. Is it that these men are so blind they can no longer see the scriptures.

Matthew 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.


You mean to tell us that these folks have never read this portion of the Bible? Yet they encourage their members to keep calling them what is reserved for the Holy Spirit.


Anyway, by their fruits you shall know whose servants they represent.

Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

They have turned their members to slaves in the churches, screaming at the members and displaying the works of their flesh.


Philippians 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. 2:4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.


If indeed you want to be exalted, we mean taken to heaven above, then you must obey the scriptures and not some dark ages doctrines of men.

It is you and people like you, who have no understanding and go about giving teachings that ministers more questions than answers.

So your interpretation of Matthew 23:9 means that I have sinned if I call any man my father including my own biological father.

Forgetting that the Lord Jesus was speaking strictly againts the actions of the pharisees in those days

But you in your confusion forgot that even Jesus also referred to Abraham as Father Abraham......

You also failed to realise that the Word of God commends us to "Honour thy Father and thy mother".

By interpretation, you suggests that our earthly fathers are not worthy of honour since we are to call no man upon the earth father....

Indomie generation

blackpanda:
[s][/s]


Biggest liar ever!

Ekiti was paid several bail out funds. All went into fayose pocket

But am aware Fayose's bailout money was delayed by the Federal government. He was the last state they paid and the excuse was that they didn't wnat him to use the money to rig local government elections so they paid it much much later after local government elections.

The very day he was paid, it was published in T.V and print media and all over social media.

The fact of the matter is that, given the circumstances he found himself, he tried.What he owes civil servants wasn't this bad, until FG/Fayemi started tampering with his alerts. The man has tried, Give him some accolades abeg........

malificent:
Looks like faculty of management sciences

It's the normal sitting position, they're wearing varsity jackets because they're finalists. It's a departmental thing.

Some people go still wear the jacket, still come back again come write re-siy exam......

vivypretty:
She thought maybe because it was only 3k, he will think she is not greedy and that she is really in need of the help. lol.

Which kind she? Na bros be that........

15yrs experience?

This one na internal vacancy naaah......

Which kind jobless, jobbing blogger be this wan....

bigsmoke2:
no he is not high you are just not up to date toks of pencil light now goes for over a million. An that figure is likely the asking price Nigerians like to price things ridiculously so most dealers up their asking price. @op happy sales.

I understand that 890k is asking but.......

Bros, that figure is enough to put anybody is a fair condition 2003 used toyota camry, a sparkling 2001 toyota camry envelope/crystal light with small change remaining to buy fuel, change oil filter and to visit kada plaza.

That's why bros halla......

You sef ma kuku know. Abi you sef dey do like chibuzor for berger whey dey sell registered benz 190 for 700k??

funlover1:
I

If you are smart you would have noticed the '14' at the top left corner.

This is 2014 result

Pls hug sense, son

You that are smart forgot that today is 14th of july......

Shoro niyen......

Kingsley1000:
ANYONE THAT WILL WIN,WILL DO SO WITH A VERY SLIM MARGIN



WHAT ABOUT PDP THUGS THAT BURNT BALLOT BOX IN AN APC STRONG HOLD?UPTO 7000 APC VOTES BURNT

7000 vote bawo? How many people them wan accredit for polling unit......

Ogbeni this your soup no get salt rara....

GoTV:
Biafra Ekiti#
Ward 5 unit 12

Pdp 2580

Apc 12

Ode.....

I no know wetin NgeneNkwenu and passingshot see whey dem leave EkitiDecides 2018 come dey post tennis commentary, for inside ekiti live update.....

@Johnnyessence.......abi na sign say them done tire for the direction whey the result dey go?.....

Johnnyessence:
PDP 157 APC 162 LP 1 SDP 1 MPN 1 PPA 1 Void 10 Total vote is 333 PU 10 RAC 10 Gbonyin LGA #SnapAndSend
#EkitiDecides2018 @PremiumTimesng
@inecnigeria @CDDWestAfrica

Your results seem balanced, keep it up.

But na INEC returning officers sure pass.......

Born2Breed:
IKERE

Which wan be ikere, code 10 again?

It seems even if PDP may win this election, it will be by a very very close shave......

Though they have lost in some ward with APC putting up a Spirited, Federal-backed fight, but lets not be too hasty to judge. The final arbiter is the Returning officer, not all these Assistant Party Agents on the internet.

Let us hear the total and final count from the fellow, before johnnyessence and ngeneukwenu (whey no even dey ekiti sef) will come and give somebody cardiac arrest free of charge on Nairaland.

Doneze:
Ngenukwenu.

Lie kill you there. No ilafon for Ekiti. shithole girl

That is in Oye LGA


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oye,_Ekiti

AfonjaBoston:
I won't indulge. Do some homework yourself and quit been a nitwit

Bros no vex! I be wan confirm which bible you dey quote, whether na APC bible or Afonja bible me no know, or are you on BMC duty roaster for this week or na FHC - Fayose Haters Crew - make we still know now.

Make we still follow you dey collect silent alert.....

Indigbo:
Ward 9: ADP 3, APC 89, ARP 2, PDP 55, SDP 1

Ward 7: ADC 3, APC 67, PPA 1, PDP 42

Ward 4: APC 120, PNP 2, PDP 33

Ward 7: ADC 4, APC 72, PPA 2, PDP 34

Ward 6: APC 115, PNP 2, PDP 14

Ward 5: ADP 3, APC 98, ARP 3, PDP 31, SDP 1


R.I.P PDP

This ward where E dey for ekiti?

Abi na inside wardrobe you dey see result ni...........

AfonjaBoston:
Ikole LGA dummy
You are just displaying your ignorance.

Bible talk say
"He that knows not and knows not that he knows not" is a big fat fool

Hmmmmmmm.......which bible?
Chapter what, verse what?

Lie lie ekaette

I dont understand? Are they rebanning the ban, or are they rebranding the ban nkwa?

How many times them wan ban, this ban? The thing tire me oooh

Y

buhariguy:
I was expecting pig trump, common consular general, what did these one know.?

Maybe he came to witness thief fayose cry on Sunday after the defeat.

I repeat,

Nobody can save thief fayose in the kind of beating he will receive.

Pig trump cannot even save him.

Let me not belittle God,
Maybe is only God that will save him.you guys will help fayose to cry on Sunday.

Idiot.........