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Tmerz:
Genetics. African Americans origins come from slavery. White Americans did alot of rapings in those times like most Europeans in that time involved with slavery so most African Americans have alot of white heritage. The majority of African Americans are dark. Many of these celebrities have white parents. Only African Americans who are descendant of mulattos who have European ancestry in their bloodline are pale. Like Rihanna

That's what they don't know. They don't know that light skinned blacks are historically overrepresented in the media.

I had the privilege of travelling round the the east coast a few years back and I do not think this theory holds any water.

Why is it that anywhere these guys graze turns to a desert? There was a research that shows that cattle herds and grazing led to the desertification of the Sahara.

secpowell:
Don't say what you, don't know. Which Agbor claim they don't speak Ika language?
Agbor speak Ika language.
Dein of Agbor, speak Ika language.

Understand what I said. In those regions, they used a lot of acronyms. IKA stands for the "Integrated Kingdom of Agbor" but those from Agbor claim although they identify as IKA but their language is Agbor. I am not even making it up. Just like you don't speak "Nigerian", because Nigerian is not a language.
Either ways, Ika is an Igboid language in scholarly language classification and/or an Igbo dialect.

The government do not own lands.
The state government hold land in trust in urban area, while the local government hold land in trust in the rural areas. Don't let them push the false propaganda.
The land ultimately belongs to the indigenous people. That's why you pay for land to community or individual and not government. You only get an official C/O from the state government in urban areas or local gov in rural areas.

Etinosa1234:
The truth is Most ika villages like igbanke, agbor and the likes bear Benin or edoid names.....

I had a roommate who bore Osazuwa but was ready to fight me if I called him Benin or Igbo person

That's why I said they are very diverse. Some villages are clearly Edoid, while some are not. Just go to their Facebook group to see their fights. For instance, Agbor claim they don't speak Ika. Ika itself is an acronym. They get more confused each day.

davidnazee:
Can you answer this question..

Are Anioma clan more Edo than Igbo or vice versa??

Anioma is not homogeneous... It's just an umbrella group for "Delta Igbos". Just Igbos and Igboids group West of the Naija. There are different distinct groups with different identity. Places like Asaba, Oshimili, Ibuzo, etc are pure 100% Igbo and their dialect is as easy to understand by any other Igbo group, and this group identifies as Igbo 100%.

Then, there is the Ukwuani group, who claim a different identity.... Their language is just a dialect of Igbo, albeit, harder to understand but still very mutually intelligible. Denial can be 50-50.

Then, there is the most distant of the whole, IKA (Integrated Kingdom of Agbor)... This is not a homogeneous group itself, that is why it is difficult. Some villages you can tell, are clearly Edoid-Igbo mixed, while some are more Igbo, but trust me, they are the most confused and I think that their dialect is mostly mixed. Go to their Facebook groups, because they come from different origins. Their dialect is not also homogeneous by a long shot. It is just a political identity.

What most are looking for is a minority status, they think it gives them an advantage. Also, it's politics. They are forging for their own state, the Anioma state, so, all the clamour for "Subnation-hood", they believe will drive their quest for a separate state.

However, trust me, if they step into Benin, what they call them is Igbo as the people they claim can clearly see that their language, culture and dressing is Igbo.

[quote author= post=98470927]Their are indigenous Igbos in Edo, Igbanke[/quote]I know about Igbo-akiri (Igabnke). They are an extension of the people from Delta State.

Yujin:
Well OP, I've studied for long to identify this Igbo/Ijaw palavar specifically than the entire Eastern minority vs Igbo issue. .

You skipped the overwhelming support for Jonathan, who was regarded as "brother". This act made Igbo people the enemy in other parts of Nigeria.

[quote author= post=98470321]We will not take because of few bad eggs and throw others out learn that bro, you have no power deny them who they are, Agbor is typical Igbo enclave, Joseph Ezeoba former Chief of defence was a proud Igbo man[/quote]Many of the villages are just pure Edo...well, while some are a fusion of the two. Majority of them are against the Identity. People from Agbor will tell you that they do not speak IKA because it is an artificial word which stands for, "The Integrated Kingdom of Agbor"... There facebook group is a den of confusion.

einsteine:
Lol. I know at least three people with that surname from Agbor. He is not Urhobo. Urhobo don't answer Irabor. Only Edo and Ika people answer that

You are also right about Ika people. I remember Nduka Irabor. Well, IKA stands for the "Integrated Kingdom of Agbor"... Many of the villages are a fusion of Edo and Igbo... while some villages have a complete link to Edo. It is just by the border between Edo and Delta.

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This might be the reason. .Seyi Makinde actually issued a different statement from Fatemi. The SW governors are not on the same page and I think it is weird that not one thread was opened showing what actually happened.

Allen102:
Of course Okrika is an ijaw clan what were you thinking before? i am not from Nigeria but congo!

Ijaw is a franchise nobody is dragging Okirika with you, there is nothing to be dragged here but that does not neutralise the truth coming from Ibime.

Allen102:
Okrikans are not igbo mr man! Any Okrikan who have 60% of igbo DNA is of Igbo origin (fake Okrika) they don't belong in the Wakirike se communities.
Okrikans can not form any alliance with igbos because we are not igbos to beign with. We have our own agenda which is the ijaw nation

You can come and carry those Okrikans who have 60% of igbo DNA (Fake Okrikans) We are more than happy to let them go!

Now this Bayelsan man, you have already spoken out what you wanted. No need lying and beating round the bush.... So, that's why you want Ndoki all the way from Abia state too?

Why do people come out of the woodwork anytime apostle Suleman criticises Fulani herdsmen? Is this a coincidence? The last time Keyamo represented Otobo, he got a lucrative offer with the government. I am not saying Suleman is innocent but they are surely trying to silence him.

Abagworo:
Kitikpa gbapia gi onu there. The issue is not about whether you learnt or not after all you learnt English, Pidgin and any other language you speak. The issue is that Okrika speaks Igbo as a 2nd language like English. Why must you deny this glaring truth? Okrika is not Igbo of course but it is clear there is enough Igbo infusion through marriage especially and other interactions. To get back a purer breed Okrikans need to stop marrying Igbo or even Rivers people and focus more on Ijaw areas of Bayelsa and Delta State. It will take about 300 to 400 years of doing that to achieve a purer Ijaw DNA.

More like 2000 years... It takes a long time to erase a DNA that is probably 60 to 40 or even 40 to 60 Ijaw : Igbo at this point in many villages.
These guys are really efforts from all püart of the border instead of working with the Igbo nation for our mutual advancement. Even from the Akwa-cross borders, some elements Are going around Facebook and other groups trying to brainwash people from Bende-Abiriba, Arochukwu zones to pledge more allegiance to those zones than to their Igbo brothers (Although that one is not working at all).
We should all rather work together for our mutual advancement.

Allen102:
Any Okrika who speaks igbo don't have full Okrika roots it is impossible! Any Okrika who speaks igbo don't belong in the Wakirike communities. When the time comes, they will go back to where they come from.

Are you from Okirika? Do you know a single person from Okirika?

Allen102:
You mean Okrika town or Wakirike as a whole? The 11 clans of Wakirike are all found by ijaw migrants, them speaking igbo is something that is impossible,so this talk of causing problems for our unborn children is not going to happen. Any igbo or those that speaks igbo in the Wakirike communities don't belong there, Okrikans are more than willing to let the likes of ibime and his elders or any other igbos in Okrika go back to where they come from, go and ask about Nkoro people.

Okrikan is an ijaw clan! (Wakirikes) Don't have two languages but one.

Which is the Kirikeni okwen.

Logan23 i hope you are reading this?

Yet, you do not know half of what Ibime knows.... Yet, you are not from there. I know at least two people from Okirika that speaks better Igbo than I do, but no one is saying that that is their first language. Many of them are bilingual, however, they are full Okirikans.

Ibime:
Ogu Bolo was a fishing village so they don't need to. Kirike town is a trading port and you cannot escape Igbo influence there. After the kidnap of Ibanichuka, my great-great-grandfather was regent of Okrika and his Wari contained more slaves than freemen. I even stumbled across an interview with one of his slaves from Umahia some years back. All those slaves and their descendants are now Kirike from George ama so you can assume that by blood, there is more Igbo blood in George than native. Same for every trading Ama in Okrika who comprise the bulk of our population. Only those who stuck to traditional fishing occupation can claim to be fully native in blood.

Okrika population more than tripled over the palm oil trade period, so you can guess where that extra population came from - Igbo land. The same is true for Kalabari, Nembe, Brass and Ibani but in the case of Okrika and Kalabari, our language was never overwhelmed unlike Ibani who took more immigrants. Ibani population was only 3,000 before they started trading. By the time they finished trading, Igbo immigration had overwhelmed their native population. One of the arguments enemies of the King of Nembe used to make against him is he is descended from Igbos. That goes to show you the extent of Igbo migration to Ijaw City-States during Palm Oil trade.

I think you are fairer and not bias in your assessment. You seem to be very informed and actually come from there given the accuracy and knowledge of the place and history for the past 10 years on this forum. You are very informed.
This is the difference between you and worworboy who could not even name one town in Okirika nor the history but claim to be from there nor the others who are rather fuelled by propaganda but zero truth.

RedboneSmith:
Who are the Amoni?

The record is actually from 170 years ago. I could not unlock it. Just like how some of the Igbos with that mbiri ishi were called Ebretches/Ebretche in Sierra-leone and writers who were stationed in Sierra-leone and coming to through Bonny and Naija for ethnology and missionary works.

Abagworo:
This your archive is superb. However it also proves that the Igbo coming together as one ethnic group happened in 20th century and each Igbo group felt they spoke a different language from the other as at then but once outside Igboland they got to understand they belong to one language group.

Yes, Köll restated it clearly here from what he observed in Sierra-Leone.

ijawcitizen:
Yeah the good old 50s when the igbo establishment rewriting of the history of non-igbos in the igbo kingdom of Eastern region was in full swing.

The records in Ndoki, Bonny and Opobo are still intact and none of them said anything about Alagbarigha/Alagbariye (a proper Ijaw names) being an Ngwa man.

This statement by Kenneth Dike is grand igbo revisionism of the 50s taken too far, it is simply desperation that is only paralleled by the fulani madness.

You see this record here is over 170 years before independent. This is what the record states. Check out this, Polyglata Africana.

Yujin:
Exactly. They've been hiding my comments too. It's clear that the fulani terrorists have a sympathetic moderator on nairaland.

Sure! It is not a hidden fact anymore.

The Igbo-consciousness: Just like the Ikas and Ikwerres today, the evidence here suggests that all Igbo subgroups claimed to belong to their subgroup and denied or were not aware of the Igbo phenomena. So an Aro man would say, "What is Igbo? I am from Aro (or whatever subgroup they were from). It was stated here that the Akos (Yorubas) were like that too in Siera-Leone.

Whenever you attack an Ikwerre, or Ika man for denial, not that our ancestors were like that too.
CC: ChinenyeN, Pazienza, Logan, Abagworo.

Koell, compiled a list of Africans in Sierra Leone, interviewed them.

Wow! History repeats itself... The same format.... Dan Fodio executed this with great precision

The destination is the Atlantic Ocean (I use to think that this was propaganda until I read it from this 170-year-old book)
Read this excerpt from a book in the 1800s.

Ellasure:
True talk brother. The Fulani man is treasonous. Uthman Dan fodio is Moroccan. They were originally pirates of the Caribbean, they never allowed or encourage civilization. They are using Islam as a cover up to their economic benefits. They are into all dubious and negative business ideas ever practiced by man. They are not original thinkers but latches quickly to financially rewarding evil practices.

Would they succeed in their Nigerian project,? Time will tell.

Sadly, they are trying so hard to cover the truth.
My comment that you quoted was quickly hidden.

codemaniacs:
ilorin was never conquered....

after the f:ulanis attacked ilorin, yorubas from oyo, ekiti and osun attacked the f:ulanis and terminated most of them... it was the british and their european counterparts that made yorubas and f:ulanis sign a peace agreement and through that the br:itish gave the f:ulanis authority in kwara...

Brother, I will ask you to read the story of Alimi and Afonja very well.

Tozara:
Please, can I get this book? What’s the title?

S. Koell, Polyglotta Africana page 18.

seguno2:
What is the title and source/link to the 1800s book

This was written by S.G Koell. A German who did anthropological and ethnological and missionary works in Africa.
The title is Polyglotta Africana page 18.

WorWorBoy:
I want what light-skinned igbo what? omg! It is people who don't know about igbo girls who would fall for your artificial antics. Most of your so called igbo women are whores and that is why people like me wouldn't touch toxic beings like them.Some years ago your people brought your women and begged from house to house till one of our people decides to take them in as a concubine. Those are not the kind of women we will hold in high esteem. Close to 80 percent of the whores in Port Harcourt are Igbo with a very large contingent from Imo state. Even in terms of bride price, it would cost me more getting a bride from Rivers state. Marrying an Igbo bride would be a way cheaper option but that notwithstanding it is not worth it. If your Igbo women are so good and your men are also very good, stick to yourselves and stop throwing yourselves at other ethnic nations.
Now show me proof of Screenshots where i said that i'm from Baysela or get lost.

Do not worry yourself, hardly any core Igbo woman will consider you, except the left overs, single mothers, etc. The ones are considered lost. Imagine leaving all those fine young Igbo guys to go to poverty ridden creeks and families where a woman may have children for 4 different men....
Do not worry yourself too much, not one real one will look your way twice. Every Igbo girl's dream is to marry an Igbo man. Even if she is with you, the day any Igbo man comes calling, it is game over.