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IDENNAA:
You should know I am all for Igbo unity but differ in some internal complex issues. That's about it. I don't kiss anybody's assz and I am still Igbo as they come. Dont worry about my strong Anambra leaning....at the end we are all Igbo.

As per Bini, don't believe the fake love they are exhibiting here for the NigerDelta/Ijaw. In real life they hate Ijaw to the bone marrow and this is not even debatable. The time of Bini Chiefdom is over and they are just getting the wake up call that they are practically inconsequential in the thick of things henceforth the desperation to kiss any assz that will favor them.

Of course, like you rightly said, Biafra never regarded Edo as a group we could form a country with....lmao.

It is refreshing to read. I loved your work and debates as Odenigbo Aroli and your discussions with ChinenyeN and his other Ngwa brothers. However, I guess just like Abagworo, you sold out to a politician.
Well, on the current issue, the fake love here is hilarious because, in the real world, many of those spearheading the Ijaw franchise are wary that Bini is using the same strategy... On Facebook, they are on each other's neck because their socio-political heads on either side are fighting a similar battle, i.e. winning more people from the bigger ethnic groups or minorities.
I will show you a post where an Ijaw ethno-socio-political agent was accusing the Binis of claiming people to themselves.... I laughed at the irony because it was a case of the kettle and pot.
CC: Logan23, Pazienza see where some Ijaw socio-political agents were accusing the Binis of stealing independent tribes. LOL

Daum:
Actually the consensus amongst Edo people is staying alone. I for one don't buy the idea of a Niger delta republic. People in a country should at least share some historical and cultural relationship. That's why we will always feel at home with the Urhobos, the itsekiris, the Ikas. I would have added the Yoruba's but we don't trust them anymore.

I don't see us forming a country with the Efiks or Annangs. No relationship at all. The ijaws who are even close to us, we don't see any nation with them even though we have had history together.

So we don't want anything to do with Biafra, I have no business with it. Infact I believe maybe IKA people can do a referendum on who they wish to join. We could even exchange communities. We could swap the Edo speaking communities in Ika for igbanke. Why should we fight ourselves when we can be diplomatic.

Keep your insults and verbal abuse with you in the east. I have people in the east who I trade with, some of my closest friends are from the east and they have lived their whole lives in Benin.

I hope I have put your mind to rest.

Brother, I enjoy your very matured response... Please, when you check the history of the thread, you will understand the frustration of keeping a civil disciússiohn with so many people who come in aggressive and sometimes malicious and lying attacks. We had a civil discussion at first until these strong anti-Igbo guys came in full attack mode and in the passion of the moment, people attacked back.

I personally understand your issues with the Yorubas and vice versa, you need to see the number of threads and topics so many Bini people open claiming to own them and claiming to be their progenitor..Most of them find it insulting and they have taken it to another dimension. It is also historical, the issues you had in the past prompted the creation of the mid-west region.

And on the Ijaw-Bini rivalry, you guys seem to be chasing the same thing at close proximity, and sometimes there is a clash of interest..whether it is with land or with people. The truth is that the two groups need people to boost their stand and power in current Nigeria or in the future when Nigeria disintegrates or even If there is a Biafra exit.
The Ijaw people have been forming a franchise even with people who do not speak their language in preparation for this eventuality and the Edo people have been doing the same but based more on a shared history. Due to proximity, they have had to fight for the same people.
You may not be aware of this move or the issues surrounding it but it is very real.

IDENNAA:
Few pages ago I asked an Edo guy what they have in common with Akwa-Cross, absolutely nothing but these Edo people claim we are fanning embers of disunity amongst "brothers"...loo

Although sometimes I do not know where you stand on Igbo issues either on Odenigbo Aroli or Nripriest but one thing I do not underestimate is your genuine passion and love with those previous monikers. However, I do not really understand you again and how you favour Juliusmalema, his Malezwhatever and Osageywhatever moniker, whose sole mission is to tear Igbos apart and create enmity...

On the topic, you have to understand, the fear of the Edo people... People exclude them quite fiercely in the Biafran discussions (they have never been part of the discussion in the first place). Now, imagine where that leaves them? It leaves them with Nigeria at the mercy of the Yorubas who though will be peaceful, will have an overbearing power over them. The other alternative will be to stay alone with the Ijaws.... I do not need to explain much about the consequences to you... The Ijaws and the other non-Igbo ethnic groups are still not happy with the role Yorubas played in favour of the Itshekiris in Warri. The Yorubas on the other hand will not have much to lose staying on their own but they are wary of being in one Country with the Hausas without a big balancing power like the Igbos. If the Igbos leave, The Hausas might not let go of the Yorubas or even the Ijaws.. No balancing power too.

Now Imagine leaving only the Ijaws and the Edoids to form a country, without roping others into it to balance the powers. That is why they are screaming Naija Delta as if Igbos are not inside. They are the ones who scream Niger Delta the most because they feel it is synonymous with oil...but you see, two Igbo states are in the Niger Delta but those two states really do not care because they have much more to offer besides oil. These realities scare the Ijaws and Edoid groups to the marrow.
So sometimes, I empathize with them....that is why an Edo man 100s of counties and ethnic nations apart will be searching for brotherhood with the Efiks, who are in all ways, form and manner have more common with their Igbo cousins.

Afriifa:
They're plain bitter fools. When you don't join them, they result to insulting your tribe and making mockery of your relevance as an entity. I pity them!

Guy, no one in the discourse of Biafra have ever included non-Igbo minorities in Biafra. Not one. The liberal ones might extend a hand to Igbos in Benue and Kogi. Many are consistent with Efiks because they are blood relations but almost all have always excluded Ijaw and other ijawphilic minority groups and other Edoid groups because they have never been part of the struggle and Igbos do not see these groups (Urhobo, Itshekiri, Isoko, Bini) as blood Brothers. They have always been excluded.

So, I do not understand what you guys hatred is.

You guys will still be part of your darling Nigeria, this is not our business. We know where our boundaries start and ends.

Afriifa:
Not Just Anioma, Ukwani, Ika

See what you wrote here now, does it make sense? Not just Anioma, Ukwuani (which you could not even spell well) and Ika.

If them say make una comot hand for Igbo matter say una no understand una go dey attack.

The thread here was about not having Ijaw in the new Baifra, which even the Igbo people here all agreed... The thread was going well, until you guys came to spoil it with ignorance. See the ignorance you just spilled up there.

ken6488:
Only biafra republic trying to force minority tribes is the imaginary country here


If you guys need war, war you will get

As you can see clearly, the OP suggested an Ijawless Biafra but rather a Biafra with the Igbos and their Ibibio/Efik brothers, and everyone including the Igbos agreed until you came along.

Most Igbos will agree that they have always excluded the other non-Igbo people in Delta, Bayelsa and even other non-Igbo minorities in River state.

Most have always agreed with their Efik/Ibibio brothers because it was these two brothers that fought the last Biafra war with all their might.

It is you guys who were not even mentioned in any way that came to the thread to destroy it...

darkwan:
you dey craze....??
and other deltans will just stand by and watch....??

you are squashin nobody in the delta....

oga. Please, go and help your brother taking refuge in the Benin republic before the Herdsmen take over the land.

ken6488:
Efiks Lol seriously I am tired of this stress here

One thing is sure Niger delta republic is not biafra territory, keep this in mind to prevent future wars

LOL. This man must be a comedian.... Cross River does not have a single border with Ijaw people. Not one. I am sure you do not even know the difference. Please be satisfied with your 900k population that can be squashed in less than a week.

ken6488:
Bleep biafra


We will never be part of you guys

Do not worry, Biafrans do not want Ijaws either. They have always made it clear. Do not trouble yourself.

ken6488:
By the time we get our republic , we can control and manage all our resources ourselves

Divide and rule... So you think the Efiks, who are our cousins will leave their Igbo brothers to partner with someone in far away Ijaw-Bayelsa and Edo? I guess you did not even look at the map you formed by yourself..

The best bet for you is to take whatever you can take from minorites in Rivers state and then collaborate with all the Edoid people in Delta (Urhobo and Isoko) and then Edo state.
Ijawman, I believe this is your best bet.

PHijo:
Wetin concern Ibibio man with Obolo?
Who cares about what an Ibibio man thinks?
The Obolo or Andoni people of Rivers and Akwa Ibom state are Ijaw people.

Our current Ijaw Youth Council president is an Obolo man.

Just like you formed a group for Ijaw youth council Ndoki clan (Which is a joke).. Eastern Ibolo clan, there is even a parody Fulani and Hausa clan now... You guys are seriously trying to make your numbers up... LOL
IYC is just a franchise, nothing special. ... Please, do not forget to open an Igbo clan since you guys are so ashamed of your own people.

PHijo:
It is a geographical classification not an ethnic classification.

The Obolo people are Ijaw people.

It is unimportant if not I can explain which Ijaw groups they share boundary with and their connection to other Ijaws in Rivers and Bayelsa state.

The Ijaw nation will continue to be a mystery to other Nigerians.

If you guys think you know who the Ijaws are more surprises are coming your way.

So, by your logic, Ijaw belongs to the Uhrobos? Or Ijos belong to the Igbos? At least assert the truth, Imagine an Ibibio man reading this your brazen claim for a people they share similar language and culture with? Obolo and Ibibio are same things...

PHijo:
Andoni just like the Okrika, Kalabari or Ibani( Bonny and Opobo) are Ijaw!

Andoni is Obolo and Obolo is Andoni and Obolo is Ijaw. Instead of educating yourselves you just wallow in ignorance.

It shows that your mission is not genuine.
You are already grabbing people that do speak your language or have similar culture with. Ijo is way way different from Andoni.
Andoni or Obolo belong to the lower cross-river language group. Ijo is way different.

You are already grabbing land.... Look at how you destroyed a wonderful thread.
These people below belong to the same group.
Lower Cross-River Obolo
Lower Cross proper: Efik-Ibibio, Ibino (Ibeno), Oro (Oron), Okobo, Iko, Ebughu, Ilue, Enwang-Uda, Usaghade

AdakaBoro8:
igbo man jaja was taken as slave by bony ijaws. After some years his faithful services, he go into total change from igbo to ijaw with an oath and spiritual cleansing.. He was cleanse off igbo and be born again into ijaw.. now carefully read my comment and free from ignorant.

Lol.. Mr. Ijaw citizen, he is a king, there was never a time in history where tiny Ijo had supremacy over the Igbos...That is why Ojukwu crushed you in less than 2 weeks.

These is a history of our relationship written in 1840s... You guys have successfully hijacked this beautiful thread.

ken6488:
igbos will force igbo language on us

Oga be proud of your tribe... I believe the Igbos will naturally kick Ijos out... They will stick to Adaka Boro's Niger delta. Today, the constitution recognises Imo, Abia and Ondo rightly as 'Niger Delta' because even from the definition, these are the original Deltas of the Niger River.

You are trying hard to boost your 900k population..... I am sure most of you are not Ijaws though, you are the divide and rule agents....

melvinjames:
I'm not Yoruba but I haven't read anywhere where Yorubas even in Brazil don't consider themselves Yorubas. Meanwhile, Anioma people detest being labeled Igbos.

Quickest way to start a fight with an Anioma person is to call him Igbo. Igbo is like a swear word.

This is how you know outsiders. Go and tell Ngozi Okonjo Iweala and Maj Kaduna Nzeogu that he is not Igbo. Anioma is not an ethnic group, it is a political umbrella for Igbo speaking people in Delta state... Only Ika and Ukwunai which is a very small and insignificant portion are fighting to be independent.

valirex:
You are the one than needs read well, Arochukwu war lasted less than a year.

And Benin Continued the war for 2 yrs.

Make a better research before commenting next time

Continued what? When the oba was on exile in Calabar and all the important chiefs hanged at the village square and all the palace destroyed, the city walls fell and citizens came down to bow. Despite all the human sacrifices made? At some point in the short war, kids and women were the ones fighting. Maybe you should read more.
Arochukwu was not the only people fighting... Aros are not only in Arochukwu, if you know too well....they are all over... The fight included Ekumeku and other fights until what ended in 1929.

valirex:
About a week and you said 30 mins, even with this new lie you still wrong, a commander in the Benin army kept fighting for another 2 years.
Get your facts right.

I will ignore the Arochukwu 3million years war cos if I enter that I will break more of your lies

Oga read the war well in details. The only reason it lasted a week was because they were looking for the Oba. They didn't end it officially until the oba was exiled to Calabar by Harry Rawson and at least six Benin chiefs executed at the market place.
You see those famous Benin bronze head and ivory that you see in British Museum was looted during and after the war.
CC Logan23

Logan23:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nairaland.com/5525409/plight-igbanke-people-formerly-igbo-akiri&ved=2ahUKEwiqhajN0fnuAhV55OAKHVtTBwQQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw29qSaPr-phIjjvTNG5OKV7


Igbanke speaks igbo, a clear igbo that I can understand as an enugu man, I hear igbanke igbo better than I hear igbo spoken by nearby ebonyi state.

These guys need other people like crazy... The reality of being crushed under a few hours is scary, or being crushed in 12 days like Adaka Boro is also a scary reality.

I just lectured the guy who said I was lying

The war on the British records called "The Benin Expedition"....it was so easy they couldn't even call it a war. It happened between 9-18 of February, 1897.. It lasted only a few hours but on the record it was a little above a week because the oba ran and hid himself. So it took more time to find him.

Imagine that reality? That's why they are desperate to steal people who do not belong to them and they are really working hard to achieve this goal.

valirex:
Lol look at your lies.

Where is your reference that Benin fell in 30 mins to the British?

Where is your reference that it took 30yrs war for Arochukwu to fall to the British?

As for Midwest falling to Biafra for a brief period, if you are as clever as you think you are you will know that the Nigerian government were incharge of providing security for all of Nigeria. Or did you here of A Benin army in Midwest or a Delta army in Midwest?

Think before you propagate lies cos there are people that will always counter them

Guy read the Anglo-aro wars in 1899 that escalated to the ekumeku wars and then until when the final peace was brokered in 1929.

Read about the Benin expedition of 1897. It actually took a total of about a week because they took into consideration the time it took to capture the king. It happened between 9-18 of February, 1897. It was that easy.

okeyglm:
even in bayelsa nembe and brass are not ijaw. same as yenegoa. majority part of sagbama.

You have to understand the mindset of these people. Their small size is making them seek aliances. There is an Ijaw political group that visited Ndoki kings in Abia state to convince them to align with Ijaws and deny being Igbos. These ijaw political groups invaded the Ndoki Facebook page too, to tell you how serious this movement is.

Their sizes makes them insecure, because history have shown that they can be crushed in a few days in a war with any majority ethnic group in Nigeria. So, they are going to people who do not even share the same language with them claiming kinship.

They are not the only one, even Bini with only 3 local government are doing the same thing. The Bini people in alliance with Urhobo (which is understandable) are hunting for alliance in Anioma groups to as far as Yorubas in Lagos state. They even invaded Ile Ife people groups trying to convince Yorubas in Ile-Ife to come under their umbrella. Bini was invaded in one day by Biafra and less than 30 minutes by the British people. Put this into context, it took a 30 years war at Arochukwu for the British people to win the war with the Igbos.

This makes them insecure, and they would seek for alliance anyway they can. They don't actually care for these people they are trying to claim, they have nothing much in common, they are just seeking for alliance.

Some of these monikers are just one and same people.

CC: logan23

Logan23:
Tanks a lot bro.

Pls can u show me d thread where he was exposed pls, I want to deal wit him more

The thread was closed with the help of the mods. He and another guy with several monikers Idenna made sure the thread was closed.
There are others here too... but the Julius guy is active on twitter too, working for Lauretta Onochie....He also uses the osagey moniker going around threads to pit Igbos against each other.

Igboid:
Does Oliver really sing in his local dialect? I think he sang more with centralized Anambra dialect which is more or less a hybrid of Idemili-Onitsha-Dunukofia-Njikoka dialects.

Its like using Ali Chukwuma songs to claim that he was singing in local Aboh dialect.
When everyone knew he was singing in a diluted Aboh dialect with too many Izugbe words to make his music marketable to entire Igbo clans.

Olundi only sounds as agent of disunity. It would have to be deemphasized while Izugbe would be updated and enriched more and thereafter entrenched to replace Olundi in every part of Igbo land.

Do not bother replying that guy Julius whatever, he was exposed some days ago... His only full-time job is to cause disunity amongst Igbos. He has several other monikers. He is paid. That's why he spends the entirely whole day on the forum. He is a 40 something year old man with children.
Logan23, take note.

omenka:
I can tolerate a united South as a country. A united South that comprises the South West, South South and parts of Middle Belt. Anything that includes the South East, count me out.

I don't think anyone mentioned the North here. This is a southern affair. Nobody invited you.

Factshunter:
You still don't what this is all about, do you? You are obviously focusing on a particular exam body as a measurement for overall education. That's not logical, to start with.


Secondly, don't hesitate to provide the source of the link you provided, I wouldn't mind studying how the table was arrived at and the number of exams body it contains.

Thanks in advance.

Fact finder but you do not know the meaning of DOI? Even after giving you the code? This is 2021 Bruh! Your condition is beyond rescue.

Factshunter:
Source, please?

I thought you said you are a facts hunter? Don't you think you might need to change profession?

On the screenshot, you can find the DOI number, journal, source from the bureau of statistics.

Go to education.org.ng, you will find it.

Or simply check the screenshot I showed you, the peer reviewed journal is available to the public. Or simply check the bureau of statistics website.

As you will find in the journal, they are trying to make a case for human resource and capital potentials for STEM.

EzeAro:
Go solve those ancient shanties you call buildings and brown roof disgrace of a region, muddled with the abominable infestation of human ritual killing plagues first before talking about any region been backwater.

Ozuor!

As you can see, most of these guys are from the North. They are not even Yoruba people.... I know many Yoruba people not to be this foolish. You see that they avoid checking facts.. Do not fall for their cheap trap.

Exclusive101:
Another igbo bureau of statistics publication.

Mehn! Are you actually acting or dumb or is this how you actually reason? I will hope on the former is closer to the truth though.

You can find it on the bureau of statistics website. It is just a click away.
Now, this is an analysis from 2014 to 2018 (The average). The results from 2019 and 2020 is even way better, especially for Ebonyi state. Abia State also increased the lead. E be like say una never know how far. Anambra is also doing very very great...we already know the reputation of Imo state. I do not need to tell you about the significant population in Rivers and Delta State.

Shaolin0147:
Yeah, good for you to know I don't comprehend ur rubbish envious post, and what do you know about Abakaliki in this recent time? Abakaliki has transformed beyond ur imagining

And I repeat, non of ur disappointed cities can come close to any Igbo city #fact

I believe some of these people are trolls.

You are going too far with cities.. Let us compare villages. This whole vlog were made in Abia villages... This is not even a town....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kSRPDjmqKU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKcgLQhVA28

Life!
So, slowly the era of Messi and Ronaldo is coming to an end?
Goons like Mbappe are taking over but I hope he would reach the heights of these two greats... He is already a WC winner.

It will be tragic not to have a Messi-Ronaldo rivalry and discussion in football in 3 years time.. it will be a great loss to football when these two retires....We need another set of GOATS to replace quickly.

SuperBold:
You can't give what you don't have now, Yoruba have been blessed with good leaders right from time, Igbos are not used to leader as it is not part of their culture, that is why they abuse other tribe leader sheepishly. Alaigbo will remain the same because SW are snatching their best minds and in 40 years his family identity and culture will be assimilated brought fort into Yoruba and that goes on. The only Yoruba going to east are agbo seller to cure many sexual related problems of Easterners.

Lagos Lagos Lagos!!! I would have thought Lagos was the capital of Nigerian for more than 70 years. Tomorrow, I guess Gbagyi people will claim sole responsibility for developing Abuja.

I will assume most of you are just troll who enjoy making Igbos and Yoruba clash all the time. In most cases, these two people get along in real life.

Well, I assume you are from the North.

Factshunter:
You can as well check my chat history as well for verification, I think you dont know me too cos if you do you won't conclude or use that childish statement such as " a lost course"??


WFT is this ( below) suppose to me or any sane or educated person? Are you kidding or just enjoy throwing words around. Of course, the UN won't be a fool like some dounce village mentality to base their stats base one exam body when we have many and plenty of them to put into consideration.





Well, that outdated data is what was used by the world bank, an international body to established a more factual facts and stats based on generation observations and various results and not some sort of individual induced and make beliefs overall yardstick conducted by one villager somewhere in alaigbo.

Firstly, if you have any sense, you will not bring forth outdated data to back up your claims


Now, this sound like nonsense and sort of stupid to me to start with.
First and foremost, talking about admission Into varsity Waec isn't only the option every student has. Secondly,
Requirement into university doesn't necessarily come through Waec in this part of the world.




Don't be frustrated, work with facts and stop barking like one who's struggling to defend his claim or imaginary assumption.

Mehn! Are you dumb or are you dumb?

WAEC is a globally recognised O'level exam and the credential thereof is supported by the fact that it is a regional exam (West African). I guess you have not applied for any school abroad or even studied abroad at all (I bet the latter and former are closer to the fact).

How do you compute the literacy or numeracy of a population?

Wait, tell me you are a troll?