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Factshunter:
If you ask me I will say, illiteracy is what you compare human development to infrastructural development.

Secondly, illiteracy is when you use one segment or just Waec as a yardstick for educational development when we have GCE, Neco, Jamb forgetting that some students are graduates today not because they made Waec but Neco and co.


And yes, another level of illiteracy display is, when you consider or believe that the states with less credit are not educated having pass through various exams and class before Waec. Now, that? Is what I called ' stack illiteracy on your side.


Below is the world bank info. This is why I limit the kinds of poeple I chat with on NL lest they reduce my IQ.

Please, check my chat history, I don't think you know me.
Firstly, if you have any sense, you will not bring forth outdated data to back up your claims. I mentioned in my first assertion that this data is from the past 4 to 5 years and consistently so. If you have any brains at all, you would know that these results are based on records of those with at least 5 credits including Maths and English and you can obtain this information from the Bureau of statistic.
In the analysis of any demographic data of the educational level of a population, this forms a vital index and variable for computing human capital development and thus the human resource potentials.
It means that majority of these people have fulfilled one of the major requirements for getting admission into a tertiary institution or an A-level. These are important indices organisations like the UN will use to compute many potential indices for development. Countries like Germany and Japan rose from the dust because of indices like this.

I know it is a lost course believing that you could decipher what I have written up there though...

Factshunter:
In as much as I am not in support of the Op when did Weac become a yardstick for education standard and for development indices?

Wow! I hope you are not an educated illiterate... I assume you are joking but if you are not, yes, in HDI, SDG and human capital development, High school results and the analysis like Male to female ratio, illiteracy indices are very important. It shows that you are churning out great human development for the future of your state. These great performers will later become your doctors, engineers, IT etc. There is nothing greater than human capital, ask Japan.

Kzinne:
Please these developers should develop EBONYI and Abia states to beat Lagos. They should do it fast please

Do not worry, Ebonyi is developing in leaps and bounds.
In terms of Education, Ebonyi is battling now and are currently in the top 10 in WAEC performance in the past 4 years. Ebonyi is performing better than all the Northern states and the only SW state that performed better than them is Lagos State.

It seems like the South-West BMC crew are busy labouring and toiling day and night on a 30k salary, while all the Northern BMC members are busy getting choice job postings in big government institutions and flying private jets.

At the end of this tenure, a Northern BMC member will have a better future, while, the SW BMC will be toiling in poverty and realise that they wasted 8 years of their life toiling on social media with lies and propaganda.

Tochj:
Chai
I pain am o
The only respected voice in igboland is MNK
Whether you like it or not

The guy you replied is an Edo guy.

adadike:
Biko nna, where does Aboh belong in this group. Are they proudly igbos or they are also claiming Bini? Will be expecting your reply. Thanks

The irony is that many of the early Europeans started learning Igbo history within the original Igboland at Aboe (now Aboh) with Eze Obi Tchukuma asides from what they already knew at Bonny, Sierra-Leone etc.
However, today, I believe Aboh falls within the Ukwuani area, and this area is a hard 50/50.
There is a constant debate on their Ukwuani TV every day. To their credit, the early Europeans actually noted their relationship with Bini although they exclusively mentioned them as Igbos and how they had the yearly pilgrimage at far away Arochukwu.

dowap5:
Can someone imagine this: an igbo person from the south-east is telling me to leave my ancestral land in the south-south, is this act not madness ? How are you guys different from fulani herdsmen ?

Edo man, tell Ngozi that...She wrote this with her hand. Do not lump all Anioma into your Edo propaganda, Stay Edo and leave the Igbos alone.

pazienza:
https://www.nairaland.com/5840933/dr-okonjo-iweala-secret-message

The Okonjos of Ogwashiuku have always been proud Igbos. They trace their origin to NRI. Okonjo father the former King of Ogwashiuku served in the Biafran military during the war, likewise his daughter Okonjo-Iweala who served in the kitchen department for Biafran military.


Edo desperados can go and play their ludo games with Efulefus in Ika and Ukwuani/Ndokwa, Ogba, Ikwerre.
But they will fail in Aniocha/Oshimili. The Igbo disposition there is too weighty.

I think the Bini empire is planning a grand resurgence. They need the population and want to reconquer areas, not by war this time but by rewriting history and preaching it vehemently.

They are all over Facebook and on platforms like this confusing Yorubas and Igbos in many areas. Their Oba is also doing his bit. I feel that they are not comfortable being called minorities and so they are pushing for a grand conquest.

The same goes for the Ijaws, they are fighting hard for population control. It is a propaganda war people in the larger Igbo and Yoruba group have not realised. Can you imagine that they have even conquered their way into Abia state, meeting kings to convince them to tell their people a fairytale Ijaw origin. I heard this before but I thought it was a joke until I saw it with my eyes. They are also paying money and buying expensive gifts for the poor kings to buy into the propaganda.

pazienza:
Bini didn't invent the beeds. They were imported by the colonial masters and all groups in Nigeria adopted it as part of their regalia.

Asagba of Asaba is a grand patron of Ohaneze Ndiigbo. What other proof of his Igbo identity do you want?
His name is Chike Edozien, his town is Ahaba( I have chosen), his praise name is Obi agu!, he speaks Igbo , and he attend Igbo meetings.

What is your problem?

Don't mind them. People from Asaba and Ogwashi uku have been warning the Ikas and Ukwani people seriously from bringing disgrace to them by tgging them with !"anioma is not Igbo" discussion.
The last Ukwuani guy who posted something controversial was met with serious rebuttals from non-Ika people.
Most people who post these things are from Edo state and Ukwuani.
I just read this article from Ngoyi Okonjo

Keemsleek005:
I asked a question cos i didnt understand the argument then when they said the chief defence is not an ibo and madam iwela is igbo. All i asked for was clarification and nothing more. Just want to learn more.

Okay, I will explain better. "Delta Igbos" like Igbos in other states do not have a homogenous dialect or even culture. Now, in the Westernmost parts, the cultures have an intermixture with Bini culture and probably influence in the past. So, around Agbor or even Igbanke (Igbo Akiri) in Edo state, there are families with Edo names (Those families are probably from Bini). Although Ika is an Igboid language or Igbo dialect, many people from that area do not go with the Igbo identity, they rather stuck to the Ika identity after the war. So, names like Irabor is surely not Igbo and this caused the initial confusion.
However, Ngozi is from Ogwashi Ukwu, and they have a completely different dialect and history from Ika.

Keemsleek005:
But the same people said the chief of defense staff is not igbo. Guess the guy is from anioma too?

You guys should stop commenting on things you know nothing about. ANIOMA is a newly formed word for Igbo and Igboid speeeaking groups in Delta state. The Westernmost part (Ika (Agbor and Ukwuani) are the areas where there is an identity crisis but the area where Ngozi comes from do not have any of such crisis.
Ngozi herself confirmed where she is from in a book I read recently....It is also obvious from her name, "NGOZI"

NDI Igbo this thread is a trap. One of the guys created like 5 monikers using all on this thread. I can confirm this authoritatively.

Please, Ignore this. It is only an Efulefu that opens topics like this on nairaland. We know where to deal with our issues.

IGNORE!!

kingzizzy:
I also want to add that the name Mercy Chinwo Nnenda isnt strange. For some reason, most Ikwerre people pronounce the name 'Chinwe' as 'Chinwo'. Also, father is 'Nna' in central Igbo but in the Ikwerre dialect it is 'Nda'

There are some small differences between Ikwerre dialect and central Igbo but thats how it is in all of Igbo land

If I were to say say "Mercy Chinwo Nnenda" in central Igbo it would be "Mercy Chinwe Nnenna"

It is not only Ikwerre that uses Nwo and nda. The dialect in Uzuakoli, Akoli uses, "da" as father and 90% the areas from Uzuakoli down to Bende and Ohafia to beyond will use "nwo" instead of "nwe".

The difference however is that those areas have their typical names, and hardly will you hear native names, so the "chi" and nna prefix and suffix are not so popular and even when it is given, they use central Igbo for it rather than the dialect.

If only this man had left Ojukwu and agreed to the Aburi accord, Nigeria and Biafra would have two of the greatest countries in Africa right now but no, "let's unite", and 50 something years later, look at where we are.

He is not lying though. This is an excerpt from a book written in the 1800s. The conquest happened in the 1800s

Culwizthedeltan:
So funny, got me wondering who's dragging who..
I thought the Igbos said their Biafran territory extended up to the south south, when clearly it didn't..

You can keep deceiving yourself, the point is no minority group would prefer to join this Biafra madness.. don't stress yourself much.
As far as it's Akwa-cross we promote Niger Delta. You can come here and spill trash and try to use cunning words like the cunning people the Igbos you are.. if you analyse most of their evil comments, u could understand this Biafrans want to cause disunity amongst us, don't think we are not wise to notice, which of the states in Niger Delta region been a minority group, would join tribalistic Biafrans on their foolish conquest

Get this straight, minority groups would prefer other minorities, not some tribalistic majority waiting to oppress and plunder their lands.

Your ipob plans had failed from onset.
Akwa Ibom ayaya o
Calabar my calabar

Can you namethe former Biafran territories?
Do you know that the >Niger Delta also have Abia and Imo state? Yes, the legally recognised Niger Delta included those two states. So, what do you mean by Niger-Delta?
Adaka Boro's Niger Delta only included the Ijaw speaking areas, the new legal definition of ND includes two SE states and one SW state (Ondo).

pazienza:
Let them be the one speaking for themselves.
Don't give them unnecessary relevance by pretending to speak for them.

They should be the ones attaching to us , not the other way round.
I know few Etche people offline and they all suffer from identity crisis.

As much as I understand your point, I have a friend from Etche, and he will really have a big problem with you for saying he is not Igbo or remotely suggesting it. He claims, that this is a problem with Ikwerre and not them Echie. Although he claimed that some are just a bit neutral now. To him, the true Igbos in Rivers state are Obigbos and Echie. He does not believe Ekpeye and Ogba people are Igbos. According to the submission of him and his cousin during our discussions.

Nice!
I hope that people in Aba keep this productive lifestyle. I read a book from Baikie written in 1841, how some Igbo people were able to replicate clothes the European who visited them wore, despite only having very limited exposure to it. They were so so marvelled. I am glad that they are still pushing this culture. I was afraid it was dying.

The good thing about Aba boys is that they do not only understand the craft but also understand the business side of it.

Mind you, Abia state is an oil-producing state, yet the people are looking at their human resource potentials, in the past 3 years, they have consistently been number 1 position in WAEC nationwide.

It is a shame that they have had terrible governors.

Here is an Excerpt from Baikie when he visited Chukwuma in 1841.

The Bini man.

One of the Northern governors is the commander of Boko Haram - Mailafia 2019

This was why the DSS came for him for speaking the truth.

The califate are actively sponsoring a Jihad in Nigeria with money from the South and we know what their end goals are.

It is called "the thousand-yard stare". It happens to most soldiers who were involved in gruesome wars, especially ones involving fires, bomb blasts.

This is where the "Thousand coccckk stare" came from. Women who had gone through several heartbreaks and have been rammed by many men have a different variation of that stare.
The eyes are the windows to the soul.

Robertgreene1:
u actually ended up saying exactly nothing bro...burna is from mbiama in Ahoada LGA Rivers State...nd both d village nd LGA's name is igbo with igbo meanings..do u want me 2 translste em 4 u in igbo?

Mbiama is not Igbo. although manz of them speak Igbo as a second language. They are more like engenne and speak a language close to Epie. It is an Edoid mixed with Ijoid language but mostly Edoid. However, in the same Ahoada west, there is an Igoid speaking group called Ekpeye. Their language has some Igbo mix but they are not Igbo in my opinion and their opinion as well.

MaiLafia already revealed that Boko Haram is under the command of a Northern Governor based on strong insider information. Instead of the Federal Government to get more information for further investigations, they arrested MaiLafia instead and sanctioned the station for having the discussion.
A jihad is currently going on, whether we like to deny it or not.
This same thing happened in the 1800s. This is how the Hausas were enslaved to this day. Read an excerpt from a book in the 1800s on how Othman Fodio conquered Gobir and renamed it Sokoto.

AdakaBoro8:
are u people igbo or not?

I think you have an obsession with topics surrounding Igbos. Almost all your comments are about Igbos. Why so?

DannyG8:
yeah I forgot I watch the video too

I learn they are Igbo communities in adamawa , yobe , borno ,Kano sokoto , jigwa

You have to understand that states are artificial creations and in a country like Nigeria, marking border communities into another state are bound to happen. For instance, Abia and Akwa Ibom. There are Igala Villages in Anambra, at the border. They are bi-lingual. There are some Igala people also in the north of Delta State. There is a border between Benue and Ebonyi, and many people have known this since the creation of the state that there are Ezza communities carved into Benue State.
I thought this fact should be common knowledge by now.

Fash20:
you're getting it wrong. Cows can not cause desertification singlehandedly. Post references to buttress your point.

The Sahara Desert used to be green and lush. Then humans showed up.
Solving the mystery of the Sahara
Jeremy Deaton
This is article is a good place to start. This phenomenon is already local knowledge. Please, just look at those Fulani settlements even around the forest and look at the surroundings. It is known by those facing desertification in the Sahel.
There are so many peer-reviewed articles supporting this assertion.

Fash20:
Seriously...

I think the desertification of Sahara desert is as a result of climate change. Sahara desertification predates homo-sapien which occurred circa 7 million years ago . Human started the domestication of animals not more than 20000 years ago. if you juxtapose, you will realise that the human had no hand In the desertification of the Sahara.

No, actually, <it is more recent than your prediction. More like 6000 years ago that it started and this can be traced to the arrival of the pastoralist.

The climate, soil and vegetation of the area was already delicate, the arrival of sheep, cows and goat trampling and exposing the soil and reflecting with the soil and some other chain reactions started this (Note that wild ungulates and other wild grazing animals have a different grazing habit from introduced domestic animals. Why do you think the Sahara is still following in the direction of the pastoralist. Even locally, have you seen those Fulani settlements within the forest how those forests turn to a patch of sand creating a very small microclimate? Even within here in the South? Why do you think farmers are afraid of cows entering their farms? it is not only about eating their crops, even when the cows defecate on the crops, the crops fail to grow because it is not the suitable "manure" for that soil or crop.

Why do you think they stop deforestation by planting trees and creating hedges while discouraging grazing in those areas?

It is a complicated analysis.

Fash20:
do you even know what drought is? How can overgrazing stop rain from falling. Calm down Nigga

Have you ever wondered why everywhere in history, cattle grazing have happened over years have turned the desert? From Mali, Niger and now, Northern Nigeria where desertification is becoming a serious problem. Sahara desert used to be a very lush green area, some research revealed that overgrazing caused the chain reaction that turned it into a desert.

aribisala0:
Ask Asari Dokubo he will enlighten you

Captain Button ko Colonel Zip ni

And the Aros were Heekbowes?
Guy
everyone one was selling Eeboes, Ijaws, Efiks, Ibibios,Aros, Ikwerres EVERYONE

It was the OYEL MONEY of the day

The Ibom People are to the indigenes of Arochukwu like the Fulani are to the Hausa

They rule in Arochukwu till tomorrow

I thought I was chatting with a sane person. All the Europeans noted that they were superior out of everyone in the Naija Delta. The only people who the Igbos feared was the Aros. Ijo people did not matter. More evidence here by Baikie and one from Dr. Oldfield in 1834.
You thought these were not documented. Na that Fat charcoal black thief make I believe over documented history.
This document stated clearly how inferior you were (Using that word is actually sad but it is what is. The fact that Igbo people, do not reiterate this out of courtesy does not mean they did not feel this way)

aribisala0:
Ijaws have always sold Igbos as slaves and considered themselves superior historically
Igbos had never organized into a single nation or identity until Nigeria was created . With the creation of Nigeria suddenly many erstwhile "slaves" suddenly became a majority in Eastern Nigeria and took on a dominant and domineering role which caused resentment and hostility

Ijaw never sold Igbos as slaves. Never! When Captain Burton came to New Kalabar and the coast around the area in 1699, he remarked that the Hickbaus (Igbos), which is the name given to the Igbos, had superior technical and organisational skills (He even took many of their swords back to Liverpool). Just like when the Egbas sold other Yorubas as slaves during the wars in their region, The description of the area Captain Burton described as those selling the other Igbo subgroup were the Aros. The Aros were feared and still feared today.
Later in Bonny, Baikie described the relationship the Igbos had with the Ijaws, and you can clearly see that the Igbos at that time more like look down on them rather than having any sort of fear for them.

Jamesbally:
Na lie, you are an IGBO MAN claiming to be Anioma. Anioma People will go violence on you if you ever try to associate them with IGBO. They hate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SU6h1YX390


CC: Pazienza, IduNaOba.

Hear this girl's experience... Sometimes the SE Igbos are at fault too.