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Why not just expand existing ones?

Relative to Sanusi, Soludo may as well be Michael Jordan.

Sanusi is not very good at what he is being employed to do.

When did there before more muslims than christians in the SW?

At least as of 1958 when the Willinks report was written, there was rough parity.

There might possibly more Yoruba Muslims than Yoruba Christians, since I'm guessing that Kwara Yoruba are probably more Muslim.

But in the SW zone of Nigeria, probably not.

By the way, when did an aboki like you become authorized to speak on what Yoruba Muslims want or do not want?

Also, it appears that you may have missed this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=870103.msg10198490#msg10198490

Where are the comments from ndu_chucks and the rest of the northern crew?

Why do they never comment on issues that affect the north most keenly, yet spend most of their time trolling southern threads?

Na wa o

How will your region progress if none of you show any interest in what is happening there?

I personally don't know much about the religious demographics of Oyo and Lagos.

However, Ekiti is probably 95%+ Christian or traditional religion, and thus would have pretty much zero interest in Hisbah police, Sharia law, etc.

However, state police I believe would be very much welcome not only in Ekiti, but in the SW more generally.

Certainly, I have not heard of many who oppose it.

The best way to solve poverty in Nigeria as a whole and the North specifically is birth control.

Otherwise, the North especially will continue to get poorer and poorer (at least in a poverty rate sense.)

If your fertility rate is ~7 (like in the NW and NE), then your best bet for reducing poverty is just having less kids. . .

Heck if your fertility rate is that high, you have to add an enormous # of jobs each year just to keep your unemployment rate flat over time, not to talk of even reducing it. . .

Akintola's nephew (DayoKanu) seems to view Awo as a hero

I am not disputing that southern Nigeria is also poor.

But she is factually incorrect when she states that the fertility rates in both parts of Nigeria are comparable. And if she is implying that having too many kids is not part of the reason why the North's poverty rates are so high, then she is simply mistaken.

Finally, saying "NORTH OR SOUTH, NIGERIA IS POOR" won't help the situation.

We know that Nigeria is poor.

The question is, why? And the answer is not quite the same, depending on what part of the country you are talking about.

And I'm not even sure that is what he wants to do. The way I read it, it is more like, "we cannot place our faith in anyone but ourselves. We cannot tie our destiny to whether the Yoruba or Niger Delta come through for us."

I mean, if you make a plan and a critical part of it is dependent on some guy you have no control over, that is pretty damn risky.

Basically I think his idea is, "hope for the best (peaceful partition of Nigeria), plan for the worst (us having to fight our way out by ourselves)."

phreakabit:
Very true. However, the way he presents his case makes him sound deluded and not worthy of being taken seriously. I think he seriously needs to write down, study and consider what he'd say before granting interviews.

His case is solid. His strategy might not be. . . certainly it is probably a losing proposition to fight the entire country at once. However, that is probably his plan C or D, not his plan A.

If we can find a way to divide Nigeria peacefully, that would be best.

However, his position is understandable. Even if you back a mouse into a corner with no way out, it will fight you.

Soludo >>>>> Sanusi

I would not be too sure of that. Hopefully Nigeria will split up very soon.

pretty much a rock star.

though i suppose it depends on which team you play for. For mine, definitely a rock star

He is a devilish creature

See this:

http://paa2011.princeton.edu/download.aspx?submissionId=110559

Especially Table 1 on page 13.

Fertility rate of 4.5 in the SW, 7.3 in the NW zone.

No wonder these guys remain so damn poor 

When you breed like cockroach, what else can be the end result?

Kobojunkie:
Why are you all manipulation the north in this? According to data on states, the south seems to have a higher birth rate still( I mean with lower mortality factored in). There are equally large families in the south, compared to the North, so do not just look at the Almajiris here. Look in your neighborhood to find the factors that we are discussing here too.

This is false. . .

fertility rate in the north is above 7. Below 5.5 or so in the south.

tl;dr

Can someone summarize?

Obi1kenobi:
It's a shame I can't post links cos I'm using an antiquated browser on a phone to post but I'll fetch the links when I get on my laptop. You could also search it urself.

When you get the chance, post a full list of state by state poverty data from each of these sources. Along with details about what metric is being used (notice that this report is very specific about what it is trying to measure).

Obi1kenobi:
CBN, UNDP and NAPEP stats have the SW FAR behind the SE and SS. Yet, I'm somehow supposed to believe stats that has several Northern states above Anambra

Those stats are totally phony. Anyone who's travelled around knows there are several oddities and incongruities there.

Links (or some other reference)?

I prefer the CS syntax above to the JS.

The JS takes more time to read, at least for me.

A really nice, long piece on Greece and how it is dealing with the financial crisis.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/the-way-greeks-live-now.html?pagewanted=1&hp

kodewrita, just start up a channel on irc.freenode.net or something

delomos:
Took some time today to take another look at CoffeeScript through reading the beta of "Programming in Coffeescript" (due for release May/June 2012) -- a few interesting things with it lately but frankly, there's only so far abstraction should go, still sticking with vanilla Javascript.

Maybe it's the book (which I'm giving feedback to), or just me --- meehhhh.

Elaborate? Specific examples?

chima12:
I just got information that a new law has been passed in bauchi state which allows  the governor to change local govt HQs  in bauchi state.The target is believed to be toro lga.It is alleged that the governor wants to remove the lg HQs from a christian dominated area to a moslem dominated area.This is even one more reason why parts of southern bauchi need to work towards leaving bauchi state and joining plateau state.
   As for southern gombe,they should seriously work towards leaving gombe and joining adamawa state.

LG hqs are in the constitution, aren't they?

At a minimum, I want state police. I don't see why Kano is allowed to have Hisbah police to enforce the law and southern states should be denied this.

Hrm. I suppose being 1st of a bad lot isn't very much to hang your hat on.

I suppose that poverty will remain high in the SW and Nigeria more generally as long as there is no electricity and hence no jobs.

You want me to argue why a crappy tabloid is in fact a crappy tabloid?

What would be the purpose of that? How is that a good use of my time?

More info here: http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/uploads/latestRelease/b410c26c2921c18a6839baebc9b1428fa98fa36a.pdf

Zone v. zone and state v. state comparisons there also.

And I even really like Bill Clinton.

But he has missed it.

Wtf is wrong with these goddamn westerners.

Who is expected to make "direct investment" in the north?

The private sector, or the public sector?

If the latter, why? What moral right do they have to a larger share of government spending than what they've received over the past 40-odd years?

It is nobody's fault but their own that nothing came of it.