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I don't even understand how you m.orons are comparing a king eating the heart of an already dead previous king to all the freaky sh1t that goes on your part of the country. It is pretty gross, but not the end of the world. No danger to society. Isn't as if they are capturing people live and ripping out their still beating hearts to eat.

Anyway, ya'll do the same or worse. Take out the log in your eye before attempting to clean out the speck in ours.

gidson12:
ow! ow!, so the yoruba obas eat people,  So the 'yaribas' eat human flesh,  My tailor is a Yoruba man and with those fierce lookin tribal marks running from his mouth toward his ears, i know he eats flesh

Royal cannibalism (Yorubaland) is different from ordinary people eating their uncles for breakfast (Igboland).

You realize that the movie Soylent Green was an allegory on Igbos, right?

Fashola doesn't seem to allow hotlinking from his site. Rightclick each image into a new tab/window, I guess.

Memorizing the koran/bible/etc is not a real education. These are fake schools and a waste of time. Monday-Friday should be spent on a real education. Do religious stuff on the weekends or during evenings.

Abolish NYSC!


[size=2pt](so I can get out of doing it) [/size]

Very touching story.

aletheia is a good fellow, I think. He just hates Buhari and the CPC too much. I can understand his position. . . my guess is that he is a Plateau man. Thus his people are directly negatively affected by marauding Hausa-Fulanis.

For the same reason, I understand why GEJ's Igbo supporters are closing their eyes.

I just think their position is shortsighted; what is good for the goose (Buhari) is good for the gander (Rochas Okorocha.)

If the price for good governance in Yorubaland is 10% of the IGR going to Tinubu, I'll take it.

It is mindboggling to me that the ACN can deliver so much better performance than the PDP in Yorubaland despite having this Tinubu handicap.

I'm tired of excuses for failures like OGD, a man who should be executed for crimes against the people.

Naija may very well fall apart in 4 or 8 years time. We need good governance now. The stakes are too high.

No more excuses. We want results.

Hehe 

Lee Kuan Yew is my guy.

[quote author=A.Chigozie link=topic=653282.msg8192726#msg8192726 date=1303614057]Why wouldn't people vote for Ribadu?  Isn't he the anti-corruption guy?  I don't know much about him, but he seems like a sincere public servant.  All I know about Jonathan is that he has a PHD in zoology and he wears that ridiculous hat.  [/quote]Very complicated stuff, hard to deal with in one post 

Basically, Nigeria is a country where ethnic/tribal considerations matter more than anything else. Ribadu is a Fulani man and was running on the ACN ticket (ACN is considered by many Igbos a Yoruba party).

So for that reason, he'd not do well in Igboland.

aletheia:
^That is what I am saying because: Blacks are not equally distributed though out the 50 states, for example ranging from 0.4% in Maine to 65.8% in DC. Obviously we would expect higher Black voter turnout in the areas with higher concentrations of Blacks due to a "mass" effect.

Err? If blacks are 0.4% of the population of Maine, .3% of eligible voters in Maine, and .2% of the voters who ended up casting, then we can calculate turnout as 66.67%.

This statistics has nothing to do with the population of blacks in each state. It is a fraction, so doesn't care about how many are in each state.

I believe a similar factor was at play in the SE: Consider this eye-witness account:This indicates there was a community-wide consensus in favor of Jonathan in the SE (even included the CPC agents) similar to what obtained among the Black community for Obama. You have to understand the mentality of the oppressed, which is what is at play here.

I don't understand the connection. Yes, Blacks (Igbos) voted for Obama (Goodluck) overwhelmingly. Far more than non-Blacks (non-Igbos). But the question is, did black voters (Igbo voters) turn out at massively higher rates than white voters (non-Igbo voters)?

Overwhelming support doesn't equal 2X 3X the turnout rate. At least, from a quick comparison of black voters and white voters, that doesn't seem to be the case. Then came out at pretty similar rates.

I await the results of your investigation.

Heh, probably won't happen today (if at all.) But if it does, I'll post it.

^-- And you accused me of faulty reasoning  

Anyway, whatevs

Lol, EzeUche aka Igbo Krushchev

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^-- Why did the people on the ground in Imo say "low voter turnout"? Why did the media report that? Then we find out much later in fact roughly 84% of all possible voters came out?

Why are you babbling about the north? This thread is focused on the SS and SE, yes? Look, I believe that BOTH sides (North and SS/SE) benefited from fake votes.

That the SS/SE benefited doesn't mean the North didn't too. I want both riggers tracked down and exposed so it won't be used against me in 4 years time when my guy runs for office.

Yes, I doubt the turnout. I doubt that Imo had nearly 3X the turnout of the SW, that roughly 84% of all eligible voters came out.

I wonder why no media reporters commented on the deluge of voters on the Imo streets. Instead, they and other public officials complained of low turnout. So either the people on the ground who reported "low turnout" are m.orons. . . or somehow the actual # of votes got inflated dramatically.

aletheia:
^
Like I said: it's meaningless asking for a state by state statistic on the fraction of eligible black voters that turned out. The Pew center report does not report that neither does the link from GMU. However the Pew center report does state that: alluding to the Black vote.

Err, you can compute/estimate this fraction for the nation as a whole. So obviously can do it for each state. Now, perhaps the statistic doesn't have value; maybe that is what you are saying.

Looking at the GMU link; does the voter turnout in Minnesota render it suspect, seeing as it fully 12 percentage points above the national average?

The 12 points, I'm not sure that is the issue. When looking for outliers, one way is to do mean/variance stuff, look for things several SDs away from the mean. I've not compute the mean and SD, so don't know. I'd also want to look at a lot more data probably. . .  maybe rather than voter turnout by state, voter turnout by county.

How would your typical voter on the ground know that is was not rigged?

How would they know?

Why are they able to say definitively that it was NOT rigged?

Katsumoto:
Who cares about his antecedents prior to becoming governor? What were his antecedents? OGD is as incompetent as they come; what did he achieve in Ogun? You want to praise a man who couldn't leverage the geographical proximity of Ogun to Lagos.

Thank you. How fvcking hard can it be to govern Ogun State? Who wouldn't want to have a huge market of 20 million people nearby? It should be one of the richest states in Nigeria, but is managed terribly.

OGD should doused with gasoline and set on fire.

1. Either way, the elections were not rigged in the SS/SE.
2. Buhari was not going to get any vote in the East, so who do you expect the Ndigbo and other Eastern minorities to vote for? Ribadu? I dey laugh o!

I don't see how your second sentence implies the first one.

Man I don't think I've ever taken an unprovoked shot at an Igbo person here. Surely even my biggest detractors will admit that?

It just isn't my nature.

Here is a list of voter turnout by state in the US:

http://elections.gmu.edu/Turnout_2008G.html

The variance looks much smaller than that of Nigeria. I'm eyeballing it though, not calculating.

^-- Many of those, there appear to be penalties for not voting?

See this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2005/jul/04/voterapathy.uk

https://pewresearch.org/assets/publications/1209-2.gif

Not much difference in white and black voter turnout rates. Even Asians and Hispanics, voter turnout isn't 1/2 or 1/3 of that of whites and blacks.

Nm, found it:

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1209/racial-ethnic-voters-presidential-election

Turnout as in, "What fraction of eligible black voters in state X came out."

Not black % of voting pop in each state versus white %

Can you provide a link to that Pew survey?

Justcash:
It is not a one way thing. Even Igbos get changed by Yorubas on Nairaland. Someone like Abagworo can be a moderator. The dude does not change. Leave ethnic concerns out of this because the dude plays neutral even against Igbos.

Abagworo is a gem. I'd like to meet him someday. He is definitely pro-Igbo, but I think overall pretty fairminded. Eziachi as well.

I'm still a nice guy in other sections of Nairaland.

And I think in topics that don't involve Yoruba/Igbo I'm nice, no?

Even in those, notice carefully I'm never the first one to talk trash. I only respond to it.

University students aren't a representative sample of the population. Plus. . . for all you know, others universities are far, far worse

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=653049.msg8192503#msg8192503 date=1303610011]Wow. These dumb Ibos accused me of the same shiyyt when I first came up here.

I remember how neutral Ekt_bear was when he first came on. I told him then itd be a matter of time b4 his mindset change against these evil Ibos. . . . .

I'm still laughing![/quote]Haha. I've changed so much in a short period of time, it is funny

^-- The study done was relative, though. It just compares AIDS/HIV rates in Ekiti to other states.

I'm sure everyone has personal stories that contradict whatever. That is fine; your personal experience can say different things than a study.

See this post for AIDS rates by state: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-646183.160.html#msg8150219

What was the turnout rate amongst black voters

Please also post a table of turnout rate by state/race