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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:03am On Oct 22, 2015
darefestus:
See your rebuff!

Upon all your mouth - All fart no sh!t.
Ekwe Sample idiot!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:52am On Oct 22, 2015
darefestus:
Where did i say Valencia was poor, this guy?

Like being a dimwitted fool wasnt enough, you are also a pathetic liar, the complete package.

I have only tried to defend Lingaard's performance as not "poor" by your own admission. And i have tried to justify my claims by giving-in my own opinion-reasons to back those up.
You are a compound fool. An animal. Goat. I'mbecile. Olodo. A pregnant sheep will analyze football better than you do. Villager claiming to be a pundit. Are you seeing matches for the first time in your life? Or you watch black and white TV push to steady? He can't even read statistics. Stark illiterate.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:50am On Oct 22, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Why are y'all calling Mods na?? U guys should grow up jare angry angry
So that when I release my bazoker, no one will blame me. Two nights ago, I saw a supermod monitoring this thread when I came here at 2 am.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:37am On Oct 22, 2015
darefestus:
Lol..Getting caught up in your own delusion right?

See, i have made my point, your opinion of any football game is usually based on whatever shite you are fed on those stats websites all over the place.

You cant see and analyse the game yourself.

Until you learn that, fcuuk off my mentions!
You don't know ball. Our only positive player tonight was Valencia. He was always forward thinking but Lingard lack of poaitioner sense, his immaturity and poor decision on the ball slowed down our attack on the right where Valencia and Herrera could have won the game easily.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:33am On Oct 22, 2015
darefestus:
As if i needed another proof that you are fooolish!

And i make bold to say it again, Elampiro, you are fooolish.

Where did i say the stat was wrong, i questioned the interpretation, not the veracity.

Bloody dimwit.
darefestus:
Wait, what is the yardstick for determining whether or not a cross is accurate? Because there is no way Valencia found his "man" 4 times in that game.

Hope you didnt include those hopeful punts that Martial had to rescue from going into touch?

If Valencia was half as productive as he should be in that game, we'd have won comfortably - thats ignoring the Rooney conundrum of course.

The niccur didnt even include Herreras cross to Rooney which was headed straight at Akinfeev.
Shame on you. Liar. You have been found out.

You are insulting me again and again and again.


Murkina2. I will insult this guy back. Hope I won't be banned?

Let me tell you. Opta rated Valencia as MOTM. There is no way a player rated by Opta as MOTM be said to be poor. You are a novice.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:27am On Oct 22, 2015
darefestus:
You are very stoopid o!

Which markers? The left back tracking Lingaard's infield runs or Musa who was stationed on the center circle hoping for the break?

I've avoided this thread for quite a while because of stats-driven average joes like yourself who think because they can lay their hands on flimsy statistics littered allover the internet they automatically have knowledge of the game.
You have insulted me twice now. If I insult you back you will be the first to all murkina2. You won't even cope with my insults. You will commit suicide.


You also forget Valencia was a defender who had to overlap to help do the work Lingard was supposed to do. Rojo couldn't cross the half line. Valencia was also up against Musa. All the threats came from Rojo's wing and he offered no help to Martial.
.....

Antonio Valencia:Solid at the back for the most part and, when he did eventually startto get forward, made a difference at the other end of the field too. United's best moments came down the right, including the goal for which Valencia claimed the assist.(7/10)
.....


Jesse Lingard:A surprise selection from Van Gaal, but he did not disgrace himself on his Champions League debut. Showed aglimpse here and there of what he can do without coming up with anything of real substance.(6/10)
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:23am On Oct 22, 2015
darefestus:
Wait, what is the yardstick for determining whether or not a cross is accurate? Because there is no way Valencia found his "man" 4 times in that game.

Hope you didnt include those hopeful punts that Martial had to rescue from going into touch?

If Valencia was half as productive as he should be in that game, we'd have won comfortably - thats ignoring the Rooney conundrum of course.
You are obviously a kid in football analysis. You are yet to cross kindergarten yet to argue with me.

Everyone old timer here know that this stat sourced from opta cannot be wrong.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:15am On Oct 22, 2015
The cross stats are out and the Ekwe Sample has gone into hiding.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:14am On Oct 22, 2015
Mystic1:
Elampiro said Rooney would have scored if Mata was in the number 7 tonight. My question is, all this while that Mata has been playing 7, why haven't Rooney been scoring?
Today's game was easy. We only needed someone who could spot passes. Lingard was a kid in the game and got Herrera and Valencia out of proper attacking rhythm. But Valencia was still cool with good forward play and outpacing his markers. He also did not put a foot wrong in our defence.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:10am On Oct 22, 2015
darefestus:
Oh, i forgot i was trying to hold a rational discussion with Elampiro here, the same one who lives on statistics and whose entire opinion of football are those fed to him by Whoscored.
Remove statistics, show me one rating site that rated Lingaard well. But Valencia was well rated.

You watch football like a crude fan. Are you a newbie?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:09am On Oct 22, 2015
darefestus:
It really is beyond questioning now, either you are blind or Valencia financed your education.

How many of his crosses actually found their targets? Aside the goal and the hit-and-hope that fellainin managed to head tamely towards goal, what other contributions did he make?

Because a player gets the MOTM means he was universally the best player on the pitch? I'm fighting a battle within myself not to call you stoopid.

We had a plan which was obviously for Lingaard to drift in, while freeing up Valencia for the crosses, your financier decided otherwise to pass it back and wait for others to take the initiative (as usual). The only time when he did actually cross it with purpose, we scored..and Lingaard did just wat he was told to do, come infield, find Herrera who in turn found Your benefactor.
Look at who is taking about accurate crosses.

Valencia had the highest accurate crosses in the entire match.

Accurate crosses
Valencia 4
Dzaguev 2
Martial 1
Depay 1
Lingaard 0 (0/2)

Lingaard did not drift in anything. He was a clog to our swift attack. Is that how Mata used to drift in?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:00am On Oct 22, 2015

Chances created
Valencia 2 the highest in team.
Lingard 0

Pass accuracy
Valencia 91%
Lingaard 82%

Aerial dues won Valencia second behind Fellaini.
Lingard 0

Shots
lingaard 0

Highest tackles
Valencia 4

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:50pm On Oct 21, 2015
darefestus:
Oga stop wacthng football!

He didnt slow down any attack, Valencia kept doing that, CSKA basically left Valencia alone while their lb constantly tracked Lingaard as he drifted infield, with Musa further up hoping for a break.

Your Brother Valencia had several chances to actually put decent balls into the box but when he wasnt passing back to Herrera, he was constantly hitting the defenders shin.
You watched football upside down. Valencia was the only player with forward play. Lingard was an obstacle to Valencia. Lingard was not matured.

Does it occur to you that Valencia was the man of the match? Valencia from defence outpaced his markers to deliver decent crosses, from one of them we scored. Lingard reversed the ball backward from similar situations.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:42pm On Oct 21, 2015
darefestus:
That was where contrary to your first post, Lingaard's inclussion was positive in the first place(as he was the only one finding little pockets of space in between the CSKA midfield and defence). However, because of our usually slow build-up play, most of his (lingaard) drifting-in went unnoticed because CSKA were quickly closing up the spaces, and Valencia kept passing it back when we tried to use him as our outlet down the right.

Compare that with Martial being double-teamed on the left and Rojo doing feck'all to support him and you'd realise why we never threatened in the first half.
No.

Lingaard stood on Valencia's way and even Herrera's way. He just didn't know what to do. When Valencia gives him the ball expecting a forward movement, Lingaard would reverse the play thereby calling Valencia and Herrera back. The result, back pass from whoever had the ball because Lingard had slowed the attack.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:38pm On Oct 21, 2015
elrony:
baba... Rooney was worst Abeg... Lingard performed better than captain fatso
You are not being objective.

Rooney was a striker and he was starved badly by those in the build up play. Lingard was the principal culprit why we couldn't get into the final third. By time the ball got to where Rooney was he got crowded out. Where I got angry with him is his lackadaisical approach when he didn't have the ball.

If we had Mata or Valencia in the number 7, Rooney could have scored with more direct play from the build up. Rojo did not support Martial. So Rooney was isolated in the middle and the ball never arrived.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:25pm On Oct 21, 2015
elrony:
Rooney weakened us ...he was a cold shiit today...Lingard played better than uncle Rooney... PS ; Louis Ban-Ga na salty soup.
No Lingaard was our worst player. You didn't understand the match you watched.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:24pm On Oct 21, 2015
Mystic1:
Man utd have the players to compete, all we have to do is to sack LVG and appoint someone who knows the meaning of "attack and intensity". LVG have simply lost touch with the game, the team plays rubbish and he just relaxs looking unconcerned. He even looks like a psycho this days. What annoys me most is when i see him with his papers, pen and notepad, i feel like grabbing him from the TV. He is the reason imbeciles like kolade354 come here to talk nonsense.
Our game was too slow in the first half. We needed 20 passes and 5 minutes to get to the final third. By the time we got there, the opposition had regrouped. We also never really attacked through the middle. We lacked forward passing and that was the reason Blind was introduced.
Only Herrera was capable of sporting penetrating passes today. Even Martial could not spot the movements of Fellaini and Rooney around the box. This is why SAF always said players like Giggs and Scholes don't fall from the trees.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:05pm On Oct 21, 2015
I said it. Valencia.

If only he had someone good playing in front of him. It was the decision to be defence conscious that kept Mata out of action today. Herrera on the right and Mata in the middle would have done us so much good. Or Martial and Memphis in the wings. Lingaard weakened us.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:56pm On Oct 21, 2015
igbsam:
Herrera on the left ? dis man don start experiment again.
Don't ever rely on starting line up formation from UEFA and OPTA. It's guess work.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:53pm On Oct 21, 2015

Starting Lingaard was our greatest undoing today. He didn't know where to position, he didn't know what to do with the ball when he had it. He slowed down Valencia and Herrera.

Valencia was our best player in my opinion.

It's painful we drew and have just 4 points when we should have 9 points. The game we won has been our most difficult.

I don't understand Rooney. He didn't contest for any ball. He was not alert to possible passes. He allows the centre backs to pass the ball around without putting them under pressure. He doesn't want to risk his legs with tackles. He carries this to the next game without correction from the managers. He doesn't shoot at goal with force and confidence. He is too cool. I thought he should be improving on his good performance from the last game.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:39pm On Oct 21, 2015
Leyqute:
Rooney is feeling younger and fitter when he's currently stinking the whole joint up. Only God knows how much value he'd subtract if he wasn't feeling fit.

Elampiro I dey look you
This means he doesn't think he has to improve. Too bad!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:38pm On Oct 20, 2015


Bayern Munich form before this evening: WWWWWWWWWWWW

Tonight:
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:23pm On Oct 20, 2015

Chamberlain, pace and power destroyed Bayern Munich.

EPL remains the best league in the world.

grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:27am On Oct 20, 2015
This is how Wikipedia reported the FA Cup final 2007.

At half time, Chelsea managerJosé Mourinhomade a like-for-like substitution, bringing on Dutch winger Arjen Robben forJoe Cole. A minute after the restart, Rooney produced the most exciting action to that moment, dribbling round two Chelsea defenders before aiming a powerful shot towards goal, but Petr Čech managed to make a convincing save. Rooney set off on another run ten minutes later, carrying the ball a good sixty yards towards goal only to be tackled by the last Chelsea defender,Wayne Bridge. Ryan Giggs then flashed a volley barely two feet over the bar from close range after a cross from Paul Scholes, who picked up the game's first booking a minute later after fouling Lampard. From the resulting free kick, Drogba curled the ball around the United wall and off the outside of the near post.
Rooney set off on another dangerous run soon after, dribbling round both John Terry and Michael Essen before having the ball taken off his feet by Čech.

With neither side doing enough to score in normal time, the game went into extra time for the third consecutive FA Cup Final. United's best chance of the game fell to Giggs from only three yards out after Rooney slid a pass across goal, but the Welshman couldn't get proper contact on his shot and Čech got down to make the save. Giggs appealed for a goal, claiming that the ball had crossed the line in Čech's arms, but the linesman didn't flag and refereeSteve Bennettwaved play on. Television replays appeared to show that the ball had just crossed the line, but only after Giggs's momentum had pushed Čech backwards into his own goal.[7]After the game, United managerSir Alex Fergusonclaimed that Giggs had been fouled by Essien just before he took his shot.[8]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_FA_Cup_Final?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C1881008064

This game has always been in my memory. Sometimes I wonder why Rooney doesn't play this way. The only English player who is trying to play like this is Barkley. But he is not coming even close.

One of the problems of Wayne is his attempt to try to play with little movement on the pitch. That is not his game. It's not his game to try to play intelligently like Ozil or Berbatov. One person who tried to change Rooney was Capello, I think he didn't change him rightly. His goals went up but it came at a price. Little movement meant Rooney's muscles will become relaxed. Does Arjen Robben stay in one place? When I watch Robben, he is always moving everywhere like everybody wants to give him the ball. That keeps him even fitter than normal.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
Dadehmola:
Elampiro, I can see you viewing. Longest time oo...

What's the latest on Rooney?? cheesy
Observing. Can't even follow reading everything sef.

Rooney is picking up. He had a very good game the last time. Although there was a period of 20 minutes he lost confidence in his abilities and started making wrong passes. It's like sometimes the pressure is on him knowing well after two bad touches the papers would be ready to slaughter him. He is the most attacked by British media.

His sharpness has increased. He needs to work on his speed which was one of his greatest assets. If he got most of his speed back, he would score over 20 goals easily. The speed will return if he stays fit. But he will need to do something during next summer if he wants to go back to Rooney of before. Something like going to Kenya to run in the mountain for 6 weeks. Lol

If he does that then we will get the Rooney that was going to single handedly win the FA Cup in 2007 but for gods of soccer. He is just 30.

I remember FA Cup of 2007 we lost to Chelsea 1-0. The way Rooney tore through Chelsea midfield and defence made one think he was Maradona. Despite unlucky not to score and United lost, he was awarded MOTM. That performance was possible because of his athleticism. Wished he could get it back.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:18pm On Oct 17, 2015
Highest Area Duels won. Phil Jones 5. Martial 3. The rest 1. (Jones without height did a job here)


Jones had the highest clearances. 7


His 92.5 pass accuracy made him 3rd behind Schneiderlin and Herrera. He was 3rd behind Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger in number of touches. 4th on highest number of passes.


He has never had the opportunity of playing consistently as a centre back. I pray this becomes the beginning. If he got the chance, he woyld live up to the potential SAF saw in him when he gets to 25 years in two years time.


European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m):
chrisley024:
Rooney cool

Elampiro! Pawaful players in that our defence grin

Good to see Rooney break the away goal drought as well as his poor scoring record against Everton after helping us to a magical come back in a 2007 match which was crucial for the title that season.

He had an okay first 25 minutes today with good touches, holding and passes. Then he had a poor game in the last 20 minutes of first half.

The second half was great for him, the only regret was that he was unlucky to have a second goal after making a run from the deep, although the defender nudged him off balance. He could also have had a very good Assist, I have forgotten who it was that failed to finish, I think Martial.

Martial had a very good game, we were unlucky not to score from one of his beautiful moves.

Phil Jones and Smalling have a good understanding of the central defence. When one is contesting for the ball, the other is waiting to mop up. Both can also battle. I always say Jones is a good passer of the ball but people don't believe.


Crime › Re: Police Foil Port Harcourt Bank Robbery by elampiro(m): 5:32pm On Oct 17, 2015
daxlasaint:
the one that happened in Benin, I was there... police didn't set up any ambush, infact they ran into the convoy of Delta CP, killed several officers and made away thru ikpoba river... The robbers were even more than 20 in two toyota hiace buses... guns blazing from every window, police scampering into the bushes!


Police from Edo state head quarters dispatched men to lay ambush. All the robbers were killed and money recovered.

I am a banker, so expect I know more. I don't want to give further details.

The robbers were killed as they were to enter a boat. The police knew how they came so they went to take isolated road to lay ambush in the bush.






Crime › Re: Police Foil Port Harcourt Bank Robbery by elampiro(m): 1:55pm On Oct 15, 2015
ogwomba:
No am not.
like i said earlier is just the heavy traffic that helped out.
It was something else yesterday.
Well, it's possible they would still have been stopped.

The one that happened in Benin around 2007, Police took another route, went to take strategic positions outskirts of the town. And all the robbers were killed. Only one police man killed.

It's better for the robbers to excape than to record innocent casualties. No amount of money is worth it.
Crime › Re: Police Foil Port Harcourt Bank Robbery by elampiro(m): 1:51pm On Oct 15, 2015
MadCow1:
Ordinance road was perfect to intercept them.

Its a high traffic area for vehicles
but carries little pedestrian traffic.
This tells me it was not appropriate to engage them in gun battle in that area. I don't know PH well but consider what you said 'it's a high traffic area'

That alone can lead to the death of 50 innocent souls before the robbers are killed.

MadCow1:

If their intent was to minimize casualties,
ordinance was the best place to do so. Or better yet force them into the ordinance-oginigba link road around the corner and shoot them to smitherines as that road has next to zero activities on it.
Should there be casualties at all? Does it worth it? The following day you would hear obituary this obituary that..... From Street hawkers to car users going to work, professional footballers visiting home, govt officials, housewives, etc.

It's not worth the risk. It just money. They robbers can always be traced if ambush cannot be laid.
Crime › Re: Police Foil Port Harcourt Bank Robbery by elampiro(m): 1:10pm On Oct 15, 2015
ogwomba:
i agree with you, it made me stay back in the office until about 5:30pm. If is not because of the heavy traffic along stadium road they could've gotten away with this, even the mopols in our office were dragging exit way with us.
Are you a banker?

You should know the police did well. It's best to get intelligence about an operation and then lay ambush or quietly go and arrest the robbers in their hideout than to engage them while in their operations. Bullets will be flying everywhere.
Crime › Re: Police Foil Port Harcourt Bank Robbery by elampiro(m): 1:06pm On Oct 15, 2015
MadCow1:
Those robbers should never have gotten off of that Ordinance Road alive.. RPG or Not.

angry


There are enough Mobile police men on Ordinance to wage a small war against a Local Government Area. Inside of Total which is just across the road from the bank, there would have been nothing less than 30 - 50 well equipped and armed Officers. Then coupled with the one's in the many other oil companies surrounding that bank, they could have wiped out those robbers immediately they existed the Bank gate. angry


There is Elekahia police station - Less than 5 mins from the Bank.

There is Oginigba police station too - Les than 3 mins from the Bank.

There is also Amadi - Ama Police Station - 10 mins from the Bank.

Mini-Okoro Police Station is also less than 5 mins away from that bank.


How the fhuck did the robbers get away despite being surrounded by these many number of police stations? angry

I'm sorry but I don't call this a success..

I don't know PH too well, but there is a reason police don't confront or exchange shots with robbers inside main towns. There will be many casualties with stray bullets hitting everyone.

The robbers would just be spraying to escape. When the dust settles, it would be dawn on everyone that it was a foolish move. You cannot put innocent civilian lives at risk just because of attempt to trap stolen money. It's always better to lay ambush. The robbers that were killed in Benin around 2007, were allowed to escape from the town but they met their deaths in the outskirt of the Benin City.

As for the amount of money recovered from this robbers, it shows they went to a high risk area. A Zonal cash management office where cash is distributed to all branches in that state and even beyond. It would always be hard to go free from such an operation. The intelligence around such an area will be high. A low risk area for banking but a high risk area for robbers. High risk area for banks would hold more than 30m naira in a day except there is are emergency payments to be met.

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