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sinizia:
So it's Kagawa that's stealing Rooney's shine?

Leyqute:
Did anyone notice DiMaria isn't among the squad for the tour?

Rojo is absent as well. Time off, I guess.

AdeLaNa1:
4-2-3-1 is same as 4-4-2?? Bros u've started again abi??

coogar:
upfront is not number-10, oga!
rooney wanted the number-9 position. he wanted to score more goals thus using the phrase "i had to be selfish". how can he be selfish in the hole when players in the hole are basically used as providers?

stop trolling, abeg....

sinizia:
cos Moyes wouldn't bench him like SAF did, and Moyes reassured him with some huge pounds sterling in his new deal to keep him happy.

tess1:
Rooney was complaining of being dropped into the midfield for RVP who was just bought to top strike. He believed that RVP has just taken his position. He simply wanted his striking position back as the top striker just like he had it in the previous season.

If you say it was because he was used in the DM and the wing. How many times was he used in those positions to have warranted him asking to leave?

sinizia:
I'm getting the bigger picture. No wonder.

sinizia:
@ embolden, exactly what Elamps is failing to understand. What Rooney meant by 'upfront' was the position of Persie which he held prior to the capture of Persie who took the position from him. All these Elampiro's circumlocutory twists is null and void. Gaal must be pardoned, he struggles with English, while Rooney is English bred.

sinizia:
Remember you asked me if I (EMPHASIS ON 'I') thought Gaal would sell Rooney, and i answered for myself not for others. I can't take the bullet for others, i'm not Jesus Christ.

coogar:
in which games did rooney play as a CM in 12/13? why are you twisting the facts? do you know the meaning of upfront or are you just trolling as usual?



van gaal can be pardoned - english isn't his mother-tongue. however, to suggest rooney wouldn't know the meaning of upfront as an englishman is outrightly ridiculous.

rooney was jealous of the hype van persie was getting as the lead striker. he was in the hole in 12/13(contrary to his position in 11/12) when he was upfront and scored plenty of goals for us.

this was why he used the word selfish. he wants to play in a position where his name would constantly grace the headlines. don't mind elampiro trying to teach an englishman how to use english!

tess1:
Twisting have started.

You said he only complained about being played in DM in the game against Madrid and i brought out where he complained about being mostly used in the midfield by SAF.

You are also saying he doesn't understand the difference between number ten and being a number 9, Lol.

You also said he was not going to be sold by SAF if he had stayed on but his quotes showed that he had made up his mind to go.

coogar:
in a 4-2-3-1 formation, how can you have 2 positions upfront? are you suggesting united played 4-4-2 in 12/13 season?

sinizia:
Amnesia comes with age, Gaal is old, he can be pardoned, Rooney is still mentally fit. He knew what he's saying.

coogar:
so you mean rooney playing in the hole is now upfront?

sinizia:
I knew Van Gaal wouldn't sell him na. He made Rooney his captain, the fulcrum of the team, why would he sell Rooney for the time being?

tess1:
These are Rooney's quotes after DM took over:

Wayne Rooney: Sir Alex Ferguson treatment made me want to quit Manchester United

Wayne Rooney has lifted the lid on his dissatisfaction with life at Manchester United, revealing he fell out with Sir Alex Ferguson after being asked to play out of position.

But the striker, preparing for England’s World Cup qualifier with Montenegro tomorrow, insists he is now settled at Old Trafford with David Moyes, Ferguson’s successor, giving him a settled place in the side.

Rooney looked poised to leave the Premier League champions in the summer, with Chelsea keen to make a move and Ferguson suggesting the striker had asked to leave at the end of last season.

Eventually United made it clear they would not sell but Rooney, despite starting the season in fine form, had refused to discuss his feelings on the matter until now.

But, speaking yesterday, he revealed Ferguson’s deployment of him in midfield was the main issue.

‘I didn’t feel like I got a consistent run of games upfront [last season],’ he explained.

‘I actually felt when I played in midfield I did okay, but I didn’t want to play there.

‘everyone at the club knew that’s where I wanted to play and I think that’s why I was disappointed because I got told to play in midfield.

‘I didn’t want to, but I’d always go in and try to help the team. [But] THERE HAD TO COME A POINT WHERE, FOR MY OWN CAREER, I HAD TO BE A BIT SELFISH.’

But back upfront under Moyes the 27-year-old made it clear he no longer has any desire to move on.

‘David Moyes has come in, he’s playing me upfront and I’m enjoying it,’ he added. ‘I’m happy.’

That was in October 2013. His major complain was not been played upfront but in the midfield. How can you now say his only complain was because he didn't play no 10 role against Madrid?

http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/09/wayne-rooney-sir-alex-ferguson-treatment-made-me-want-to-quit-manchester-united-4141245/

sinizia:


So Rooney suddenly becomes a football illiterate that cant interprete his positions?

sinizia:
I can't even believe someone would argue SAF didn't want to sell Rooney, especially coming from those retarde*d assanal moro*ns. If not for Moyes, Rooney would've been playing his matches in Ligue 1 with PSG, or in La Liga with either Madrid or Barca.

coogar:
you are correct!
david villa must have played as a midfielder in those games & iniesta played as a forward.



rooney
‘I didn’t feel like I got a consistent run of games up front, ‘I actually felt when I played in midfield I did OK, but I didn’t want to play there.

Everyone at the club knew that’s where I wanted to play (up front) and that’s why I was disappointed because I got told to play in midfield and I didn’t want to. But I’d always go in and try to help the team, so I think there had to come a point where for my own career I had to be a bit selfish."
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elampiro, are you sure you don't want to edit the balderdash you posted earlier about rooney not complaining about his position to play up front??

coogar:
you are correct!
david villa must have played as a midfielder in those games & iniesta played as a forward.

coogar:
these are some of the games barca played that year, iniesta was in the midfield in more than 50% of the games....

tess1:
How will they avoid Madrid saga when the crux of the matter was not only being left out of the most important match of the season but mostly because he's being used in the midfield according to Rooney himself.

SAF wasn't ready to drop RVP who was performing for Rooney upfront and Rooney wasn't ready to continue being used in the midfield. So, who do you think will get his wish? If SAF had stayed, he'll never succumb to Rooney so far RVP was still performing in his striking role. This is what will eventually lead to his exit.

coogar:
that picture doesn't say where iniesta played predominantly. it just listed the number of positions he played that season. i have the OPTA positions of barca's games in that season & more than half of iniesta's games that season were in the midfield.

tess1:
The fact is that he had asked to leave in the second scenario which is quite different from the first when he hasn't. In the second scenario Rooney would have continued being displeased and continue throwing tantrums at SAF because he had made up his mind then. This will eventually make SAF sell him off.

Showing your displeasure over non-selection in a match is quite understandable at times but verbally saying you want to leave with such displeasure will always lead to his exit.

tess1:
You are bring in two different scenarios:

The first was when Rooney was dropped for Madrid game and he hadn't asked to leave.

The second was when he had asked to leave.

Rooney himself confirmed that he was ready to leave at the end of that season.

ElFenomeno1:
^ ^ ^

Thanks for that Elampiro.

That troglodyte called Coogar will still come here and rubbish the above!

His hatred for Rooney has be-clouded his judgement and tarred his sense of reasoning and objectivity!

coogar:
that is just newspaper talk....
SAF wasn't ever going to replace rooney with RVP. what made rooney have a rethink was the money he was going to lose for initiating a move. rooney didn't want to lose money & on the other hand, rooney was never going to replace RVP as the lead striker under SAF.

ElFenomeno1:
He wasn't playing well enough.... That is not enough to suggest he was going to be sold or something like that!
Dude common
Any manager can tell his player he is not doing enough...... I don't have any concrete evidence but I can say from all information available that Rooney was never going to be discarded like a doritos wrap!

coogar:
after watching rooney's lame effort in 11/12 when we squandered an 8-point lead to lose the title to citeh, SAF had had enough with the rooney experiment. he had to buy a proven striker that would deliver him his parting gift to man utd.

van persie was the best player in the league & he was unsettled at arsenal due to your perennial barrenness. SAF moved quickly, got van persie & united won the league by 11 points. rooney became peripheral & RVP became the main man.



you are a fool!
players get dropped for games that are inconsequential. the madrid game was united's biggest game that year. there's no way enriquez would drop messi in a big game.....unless of course, he wants to get rid of him!



your barrenness in the premier league has beclouded your senses. i don't expect you to argue rationally. a woman that has been barren for 12 years would most likely be in a mental hospital.

sinizia:
Elamps, had Ferguson not retired, Rooney would have been a goner. SAF had it up to here with Rooney's arrogance. Rooney's savior for not getting sold is Moyes. SAF would have sold Rooney and gotten a hot CF to replace him. If CR7 could be sold, who's Ronney?