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Ubenedictus: the teachings of the church says everyman must be allowed to follow his conscience. Do you agree or disagree? Simple question

SailorXY: So what "bench warmers" have "we been supporting" since SAF's era? You want to keep maneuvering about your belly still to sound good. Who has said Rooney is not a good player? Chelsea want Rooney to come & play centre back or attacking midfield or bench Cech? Why art thou trying so hard? Rooney was wanted to play as CF, why is he unable to fight for a spot upfront here? Is van Persie too great to be displaced? Oh maybe he is, I don't blame Rooney for that
All we ask is give an AM a chance to play AM, this is not abracadabra

Ubenedictus: i can't find my copy of code of canon law so i,ll make use of the CCC.

[b]1782 man has the right to act in conscience and in freedom so as personally to make moral decisions. ''he must not be forced to act contrary to his conscience. Nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience, especially in religious matters''
1800 a human being must alway follow the certain judgement of his conscience[\b]

is this not exactly what the pope told the atheist? Is this not the true teachings of the catholic church?
Why then are you saying the popes word is heresy? Or do you reject the teaching of the church as written in the cathechism?

Ubenedictus: that is exactly what it says, with or without Jesus man must obey his conscience.

Let me ask you, would you advise an atheist to seek God and listen to his conscience or ignore his conscience and seek God.

Syncan: Can't stop laughing now. Do you have itchy lips...sorry...fingers? Thought you said bye earlier, albeit for the second time in this thread. Leaving all the lies I have exposed and seeking straw to clutch on.

Your acts Judge you, for I judge you not.

"schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him". CCC 2089.

Ubenedictus: no the post didn't quote canon law it quoted a saint/theologian and a pope but it didn't quote canon law. It also says that it is wrong for you to judge the pope guilty of heresy because you do not possess that authority.

Church law doesn't prevent you from analising but church law prevents you from accussing the pope of heresy or to assume that he has lost his office that is why not even the cardinal dare to accuse the pope.

Incase you don't know you owe loyalty to the pope

Ubenedictus: canon law 101 a pope is not bound by the instructions of a previous pope except they are dogmas

Ubenedictus: where did pope francis say atheist are saved if the do good.?

Ubenedictus: he didn't mention 'salvation' or 'saved'. He never said anybody was saved by following their conscience. He only admonished that the unbeliever should follow his conscience he never said that was a guarantee of salvation.
Again i advise you to read with understanding.

chamotex: Name the matches he was given the role and his contributions...with stats preferably.

chamotex: Lmao congrats to Rooney for winning the player of the month.
So you expect someone that played 45 minutes of league action to get player of the month? This is laughable.
Kagawa doesn't have to replace Rooney in the team. Rooney can play other roles in the team.

SailorXY: Leave that guy make unintelligent moves of Man United coaches dey deceive am

nitrogen: Bros, na because of those mediocres (valencia and young), that Moyes decided to loan out a non-mediocre jare, don't be decieved.

Damn! I hate those average players, especially the ones from England, I hate them with passion.

Syncan: Jumping from Pillar to post each time your lie is refuted and Ignorance exposed, does not help you in any way. I told you from the beginning to pray more, you refused out of pride that you know a lot, you thought you were talking to ignorant people, see where you have landed. You may now take my advise, its never too late. However make sure that the sacrament of reconciliation is the first you run to when you are fully contrite.

Syncan: Now he is believing the devil, the father of lies. I fear for you. Another blog.

Syncan: Another lie.

I have always defended the Popes speech more with the Catechism of the Catholic church and scripture quotations, you have defended your schism with messages more from your "internet visionary"and bloggers. This is all over the thread for all to see.

Syncan: The Ignorant is sitting in judgement over the informed: Read your catechism!

"Deep within his conscience man discovers a law which he has not laid upon himself but which he must obey. Its voice, ever calling him to love and to do what is good and to avoid evil, sounds in his heart at the right moment. . . . For man has in his heart a law inscribed by God. . . . His conscience is man's most secret core and his sanctuary. There he is alone with God whose voice echoes in his depths." CCC 1776.

Syncan: Direct from his/her website, and you're still here lying through your teeth. You really have an agenda here. Just tell me what I lied about, you are downloading a copyrighted material, Its called piracy in truthful circumstances, I guess in yours its just normal business.

Syncan: You really need that therapy abi retreat you are undergoing, please go back to it, your ignorance, hatred and lies are becoming embarrassing.

Ubenedictus: the post you quote clearly says you must continue to assume you have a valid pope until proven otherwise by the highest posible legitimate authority, that is a general council. In simply english you need a general council before you can even attempt to convict a validly elected pope of heresy.
The irony of that case is that even a general council lacks the authority to depose a validly elected pope, because canon law makes it clear that the primus authority cannot be judged by its subordinates.

Ubenedictus: where did pope francis say atheist are saved by their conscience

Ubenedictus: where is the new crucifix?

Syncan: Hahahahahaha, See how you are making inputs into the Popes speech. The Interviewer made it clear that he got clarifications that he wasn't talking of the curia. You wouldn't see it would you?

Interviewer:The leprosy of the papacy, those were his exact words. But what is the court? Perhaps he is alluding to the curia?

Pope Francis: "No, there are sometimes courtiers in the curia, but the curia as a whole is another thing".

Your lies are obvious, you cannot hide them.

What have you said differently now?

Who are members of the curia? Cardinals. So see how your supposed humble Pope rubbished Cardinals in the face of unbelievers just for his own fame. Also note the difference between his use of courtiers and Court.

If he has something bad to correct why can't he just correct it?

So what is heads of church? Previous Popes.

I thought you said a Pope was infallible, so where did the word 'leprosy' come from? Is there suppose to be any such word associated with papacy? Keep making defences? You have a long way to go.