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Syncan: I shall continue to open your eyes, yet while exposing your lies. You said He/she was told not to make profit and the book is downloaded free abi? Here you go, straight from the official website:

"Please note: This is the only authorised website to purchase the Book of Truth, which has been to Maria Divine Mercy and placed under her responsibility. The book is Copyrighted to protect the work. Please understand the responsibility placed upon her to protect the Work, even in your enthusiasm to get these Messages to others. Through this website and our authorised distributors and publishers the books are made available in retail outlets in the UK, only, at this point in time. The book can only be sold in other languages through this and authorised site. The book is also available on itunes and via Kindle. If in doubt please email us".

http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/book-of-truth/

You know all the visionaries praising the Pope...(I'll leave this one), they are all false then in your Opinion, and the "internet visionary" is true abi?

You read details, yet you tell lies against a Pope. There is no where Pope Francis called his Predecessors "Narcissists" and the Curia "leprocy". I shall deal with that next. Stop reading sensational headlines.

Syncan: You read details, yet you tell lies against a Pope. There is no where Pope Francis called his Predecessors "Narcissists" and the Curia "leprocy".

Interviewer: However, as we said, Jesus told us that love for one's neighbor is equal to what we have for ourselves. So what many call narcissism is recognized as valid, positive, to the same extent as the other. We've talked a lot about this aspect.

Pope Francis: "I don't like the word narcissism", the Pope said, "it indicates an excessive love for oneself and this is not good, it can produce serious damage not only to the soul of those affected but also in relationship with others, with the society in which one lives. The real trouble is that those most affected by this - which is actually a kind of mental disorder - are people who have a lot of power. Often bosses are narcissists".

Interviewer: Many church leaders have been.

Pope Francis:"You know what I think about this? Heads of the Church have often been narcissists, flattered and thrilled by their courtiers. The court is the leprosy of the papacy."

Interviewer:The leprosy of the papacy, those were his exact words. But what is the court? Perhaps he is alluding to the curia?

Pope Francis: "No, there are sometimes courtiers in the curia, but the curia as a whole is another thing".

We are knowing who is misleading, lying etc.

SailorXY: Meanwhile, Zaha is about to be loaned out so that power playing Valencia & in-swinging Young will have enough space to make us Crystal Palace

elrony: No need to be on this kagawa issue for long!!

How many UCL matches did he play with BVB??

The same dude who was bundesliga overall best player,winning the German league with the same BVB??

Guy talk well

elrony: Elampiro I ain't saying kagawa has been at his best at united !!(he sure needs to up his game)...buh I'm trying to let you know that playing in the epl doesn't mean he needs to become the green version of Bruce banner!!

Abi you wanna tell м̣̣̥̇ε̲̣̣ Valencia is the best player at united because he is physically strong?...#dat mediocre mora!!!

dayokanu: I think you say how the fast players who win 90-10 balls, Who win aerial duels who arent bullied etc were mad to look like fools on Wednesday

Has anyone seen Yaya and Fernandinho in public since then? Shame no gree then when they were molested by players like kagawa

Check the average height and size of City players and comapre to Bayern players

No wonder una prefer big for nothing Failainni Shawcross, Huth, Bramble, Valecia etc

elrony: Lwkmd!!..wat a joke!!!...no wonder we are now playing like Wolverhampton and the likes of stoke city!!!

elampiro: Vidic and Ronaldo were not played ahead of better players. Man United is even generous enough to have played Kagawa on the left, otherwise he should have had to wait to displace Welbeck and Felliani from the supporting (hole) function before we can even think of when he will be qualied to displace Rooney.

Kagawa had his chance last season against Madrid, Stoke and some other matches. How did he fair? In the EPL games he played in the hole he was bullied off the ball and was making short left, right and backward passes.

In the preseason the same. Someone said he was not fit. How can someone who played the last matches of EPL+confederation cup+Yokohama, not be fit in subsequent preseason matches? Rooney missed end of season matches+preseason+two injuries, then return and became our best man of the season so far. Where is the balance in judgment?

SailorXY:

dayokanu: Please what is EPL material?

elrony: Help м̣̣̥̇ε̲̣̣ ask o...I wanna know too

SailorXY: There you go again, running from pillar to post. What has who came first or how their first match went has to do with anything?
How was Vidic's first game in a United's shirt?
How was Ronaldo's first game?
How was Evra's first game?
So Rafael being a wing back gets played as a wing back & showed his stuff means he would have done same if the chance given him was in DM? Why do you think his twin hasn't developed as much as Rafael? Even Rafael has said when they were growing up as academy players, Fabio was more talented on the pitch.
Vidic being a defender gets games as a left back because "a defender should be able to play anywhere" & is expected to perform magical overlapping runs & deliver quality crosses into the box from the left wing
Some arguments just dey funny...the same way Chelsea fans like to call Mikel useless, but they forget he could never be given the CAM position we all know he could have developed in because the "english talents" occupied it

SailorXY: @ Elampiro & Dademola, do you know Anderson was a natural No. 10 when he was signed by Man United with immense talent? As much as everyone loves to insult his capabilities now, we forget the basics. Why do you think he hasn't developed here?
Do you know why Pogba couldn't realize his dream here?
The simple reason is because they could have displaced "british talents". How's Pogba faring now? Won't he walk into this pile of shyte we call midfield @ Man United?
Why do you think Rafael has gone on to develop this further? Gary Neville respected himself & the club by sacrificing personal glory for the future of this team! Had he been adamant like Giggs or came back like Scholes, Rafael would have been busy going out on loans now or sold outright.
Cristiano Ronaldo was given time to misbehave & learn, he became one of the greatest players ever seen. Do you think he would have done a thing with Beckham around? We know the answer.
Giggs is still here, Lingard, Januzaj & Zaha are coming through yet he has refused to quit chasing useless records @ team's expense. What is Ferdinand still doing here being first team player? Next he'll be awarded a 2-year contract extension hehehe abegi we make tell ourselves how e dey go. These guys cannot develop into world beaters on the bench or being shunted around the pitch to accommodate guys who can't develop any further.
Until we are ready to allow young players make mistakes, learn & make the leap or spend some hard cash on accomplished world beaters then we will keep dangling around the mediocre lines

Syncan: I have read the A V if you know what I mean. However, there was no where in scriptures it was promised that the gates of hell will not fight the church, It was only promised that it will not overcome. The fact that we see it fighting it should not make us see the devil in everything. When you give the devil much credit, you limit your trust in the Power of the omnipotent God. Using the writings of one "buenos aires Journalist" that is filled with lies and half truths with intent of deceit to condemn anybody is slander, to do that for a Pope is schism. You need to have read Fr. Grunner of the Fatima crusader and what his opinion on Cardinal Ratzinger who later became Pope Benedict xvi was at the time. I remember having this type of argument with a "Marian" at the dawn of his Pontificate, he was pretty much like you, basing his arguments on many messages including the blue book. He however was more prudent with his words than you, for he did not go all out denying that he is an authentic Pope. Today, look at you using Benedict XVI as true and Francis false Pope. Its all de ja vu again.

Take a look at this: http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/Nick_Gruner.php

Just take a look at Opinions on the master Jesus. "He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils"(LK 11:15). 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners" (Matt 11:19). Yet he is the Lord.

Syncan: Aha, you didn't call him that abi?

So where is the Antipope in that statement?

Syncan: ^^^ either you quote source and put link or you risk being banned for false information.....rule 8

dademola: ofcourse not. My point is dt rooney's form is decent enof. Considering present form, rooney doesnt deserve to be be shifted aside to accomodate d presently "uncertain" kagawa. Kagawa wld get more chances, bt he had betta grab dem with both hands: d nxt chance he gets, it had betta be an improvment on d lethargic performance he put in d last time.

Syncan: So was claimed a lot of false visionaries too, known ones, not your "internet visionary" who Could even be the head of an occult group.

Syncan: I judge you not, your actions have already judged you.

Still what I am talking about, "possibility" means nothing, especially in the face of highly improbability.

You've had a retreat you say? And the "very high clergy" told you that the "highest clergy" is of the devil abi?

elampiro: I went for counselling on this issue and many more. I have been taught a lot of things I never knew from a very reputable source. I was also given this link and told the boundaries to observe in this matter.

Concerning “Maria Divine Mercy”, Pope Francis, and the False Prophet
Posted on August 1, 2013 by twohearts
By Dr. Kelly Bowring, Author of best-seller “The Secrets, Chastisement, and Triumph” and “The Great Battle Has Begun”

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The messages of Maria Divine Mercy (MDM), which she is reportedly receiving from heavenly sources, are plausible. I have examined all the messages, as well as all of the published evaluations and criticisms of her messages… and have not found them to establish a single error in her reported messages. And the negative evaluations of MDM posted by critics to date have been, at best, inconclusive and unconvincing.

I have not found that her messages contradict any doctrine, or that they contain an actual error. As of today, her messages are not condemned by any official Church authority with jurisdiction to do so (which would be the Irish Bishops or the CDF), though certainly they have not received Church recognition either.

On the other hand, several of her prophecies have been fulfilled, and her messages are congruent to the other related legitimate sources of prophecy being given in these times.

As well, the Crusader Prayers of Maria Divine Mercy are in the same status as her reported messages, as stated above, and thus, it would seem that it is permissible to pray them.

So, in summary, the Church faithful may read and spread MDM’s reported messages and pray her prayers.

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Caution Needed!

Still, we must be cautious, and continue to discern with prayer and docility to the Church and the Holy Spirit, while remembering the words of Pope Urban VIII: “In cases which concern private revelations, it is better to believe than not to believe, for, if you believe, and it is proven true, you will be happy that you have believed, because our Holy Mother asked it. If you believe, and it should be proven false, you will receive all blessings as if it had been true, because you believed it to be true.”

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Potential Problem

One of the serious issues that are raised by the reported heavenly messages of MDM is regarding her message that Pope Benedict XVI would leave the papacy (before he died) and that his successor would be the false prophet (as discussed in Revelation 13). This is a difficult message and must be considered with delicate discernment. Whether this message is true or not, we do not know.

Even if this reported message is true, we must never take it upon ourselves to decide as such… we must wait for the Church to direct us in such matters. No matter what, we must remain faithful to the Church. We are never personally permitted to believe the Pope is invalid, unless the highest legitimate authority of the Church were to indicate that he is.

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Careful Distinction

So, while we may meditate on and spread the messages of MDM… as practicing Catholics, we must also be cautious about (and even somewhat critical concerning) this message related to the new Pope, and in this situation we must personally declare the following:

1. I accept the teaching of the Universal Catholic Church that the Pope when speaking on faith and morals is infallible.

2. I accept, as legitimately elected by the recent conclave, Pope Francis (as the validly elected Pope).

This includes “religious assent of mind and heart to the manifest mind of the pope, even when he is not speaking infallibly” (Second Vatican Council, Lumen Gentium, 25), which every member of the Catholic faithful is obliged to offer Pope Francis.

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Time Will Tell

Time will make things more clear in this delicate matter, as to whether MDM’s messages deserve repudiation because she is in doctrinal error, her messages are inauthentic, or she is eventually rightly condemned by the Church. Otherwise, her prophecies will continue to validate themselves as events unfold and they come true.

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Important Question and Clarification

The most common question people are asking right now about MDM is whether a validly elected Pope could even be the false prophet, as her messages are reporting. The answer is – YES.

Though, while it is possible, it would be quite improbable.

So, how could it happen that a validly-elected Pope could become the false prophet (an invalid pope or an anti-pope)?

Pope Paul IV’s Papal Bull Cum ex Apostolatus Officio teaches that if anyone was a heretic before the Papal election, he could not be a valid Pope, even if he is (validly) elected unanimously by the Cardinals.

As well, Canon 188.4 (1917 Code of Canon Law) states that if a cleric (pope, bishop, etc.) becomes a heretic, he loses his office, without any declaration, by operation of law.

St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Antonius, St. Francis de Sales, St. Alphonsus Liguori, and many other theologians all taught that a heretic cannot be a valid pope.

“If however, God were to permit a pope to become

a notoriously and contumacious heretic,

he would by such fact cease to be pope,

and the apostolic chair would be vacant.”

St. Alphonsus Liguori, Church Doctor

Here are some more citations on this possibility: http://www.protestanterrors.com/pope-heresy.htm

However, ecclesiastical law requires that the faithful must presume we have a valid Pope, unless the Church’s highest authority formally declares otherwise.

So, one may consider the possibility that an “anti-pope” could potentially come from a valid conclave, and this does not constitute a false or “heretical” position.

Thus, it is actually possible to remain faithful to the Magisterium AND consider that the messages of MDM plausibly might be authentic that the Pope is the false prophet… and even that the Church herself states that this IS at least possible.

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Time will make this matter more clear.

http://twoheartspress.com/blog/concerning-maria-divine-mercy-pope-francis-and-the-false-prophet/