₦airaland Forum

Judemarco31:
Stop spreading false narratives, I support the Bill, most of the preachers and those hawkers creates inconveniences and discomfort to travellers. In developed countries you won't see such but it is only in this part of planet that we claim to be more Christians than Pope but our atrocities are nothing to write home about. Even Bible made us to understand that there is time for everything.

Tell us your version of “developed countries” where Christians preaching openly is banned please.

Happy birthday to Sir Peter Gregory Obi.

The only man who genuinely talks about accountability openly. The only man who embodies integrity. The only political leader who has openly said that if there’s any stain found on him, he’ll step down.

nairavsdollars:
Happy birthday but Very weakling of a man. His action with Isaac Fayose had me gutted

Where’s the weakness?

Some of you just speak without insight or knowledge.

The reason why Wike joined Tinubu was Atiku’s arrogance as a leader. It was a clear weakness. After their primaries in 2023, if only he addressed grievances as a leader and brought them all together, he probably would be the President today. He was practically pushed and begged to accept Amaechi as his running mate under the present ADC.

Tinubu always talks of his political family. As the leader, he has the responsibility of addressing their grievances and MUST listen to them, to keep them all together. Before he became the President, he visited his contacts in their homes and amended ways with those who were willing. They all worked for him to achieve his goal.

Political leaders are servants, not just to their supporters, but to everyone. Leadership is service and humility.

Why’s Peter Obi’s case an issue to your likes?
He saw an issue within his political family. He probably had not recognized the enormity of Isaac Fayose’s sacrifice until the problem came up. When the information got to him, he quickly moved to address the grievance with humility. That immediately returned Isaac to the fold and increase his status too. If he was in his way to Tinubu’s camp, Obi pulled him back. Isaac Fayose was impressed and very proud to have such a person visit him in his home. Watch out for how his confidence will grow and his contributions increase to achieve success. Again, Obi brought peace and unity to the Obidient family with that single move.

FSBoperator:
This idiotes will look for anything to keep his miserable self trending.

A poverty stricken person and his words.

Ttalk:
Make your point short and precise.
You don't force loyalty with threat, insult and bullying. It should be natural, there's no basis for dragging Fayose when Obi Cubana was present at the event

You don’t force loyalty with threat and yet your principal has been accused of using the anti corruption agencies to force political office holders to decamp and be loyal to him?

What’s the basis for dragging Obi Cubana when his political affiliation is well known to all?

ijayalolo:
Hmmm, you guys are "a lost cause". So you are comparing obi people to APC of 2014. Before the main election in 2014 do you know how many heavyweights APC had gained, do you know how many off cycle elections they won from PDP before the main election? Can you remember the so called nPDP (sitting PDP governors that decamped to the APC

Number brother man, numbers. I repeat, no matter where it is coming from just gather the numbers not pushing them away. When you get to the throne you can now do your weeding.

"When Obi defeats Tinubu, by the grace of God in 2027" Herein lies the problem, WISHFUL THINKING, unfortunately that can never win you election anywhere. As you lay your bed so you lie on it. The more people you chase away, the better for your rival, even if they don't join your rival.

Ideologies? In African politics? okay, let's assume it. what is Obi's ideology? is it the same as the 5 political parties he has transversed? and how has he been able to convince people of that ideology to vote for him, by abusing, cursing and denigrating anybody that doesn't see things their own way?

I'm bookmarking this chat so that by January as much as I will not be happy to say it (because this Tinubu's first term has been a disaster) but I would still say it that "I told you so"

We go all learn politics together.


Thank you for your attention to this matter?

Please can you tell us how many off circle elections APC won before 2014? Can you please tell us when APC was registered as a party? Ekiti, in the of circle election was won by PDP.

You see the problem with APC supporters? Always quick to make fake claims.

You make me laugh when you talk of heavyweights, as if it is all about combat sports. Did you all not label Obi as a man with no structure? Did the structure come up or not. By how many votes did the man with

Anyway, as a reminder, PDP won 16 states that became 18 states in 2014 after court rulings. With APC at the center, did you not expect the governors, who never had ideologies, to remain in the party that did not win the center? Aside from Ilaje in Ondo, Osun and Ekiti states had their elections and results were split. How did a newly formed APC’s heavy weights win seats?

“The more please you chase away”. Who chased El Rufai away from APC?

Please quote directly from Peter Obi, one word of abuse or insult on people. Can you in all honesty tell us how Tinubu went from AD to APC?

Ttalk:
Na ignorance dey worry this one Go to Nass and see how opposition member relate both in official capacity and social life.

Cover your face with that your ignorance

So you cannot see yourself as the very ignorant and completely unlearned person?

Are you referring to the same NASS where Akpabio and Natasha went to court over allegations of sexual misconduct and abuses, with criminal
and civil charges pressed?

By the way, were you sleeping when El Rufai was charged to court, in the same administration that he played a very huge role to bring to power? So El Rufai is presently enjoying social life with Tinubu, right?

Are you talking about the NASS where Nwebonyi and Natasha are at loggerheads?

When animals with horns appear, so the snail too appears? Go school, una no go gree.

Undoubtedly the greatest of his generation.
He is way ahead of his rivals.

Impossible to stop.
All coaches plan for weeks how to stop him. What a player!

renderme:
This your response is too silly. If i hang out with my friends that support tinubu and i make a video with them that means i deserve abuse from my fellow obidients. I cant be friends with people supporting someone else. Meanwhile obi can be friends with atiku and his other structures of criminality and still be considered a saint.

Bianca can work for him and Zack Orji can proudly promote him without people camping on their page to rain abuses. Better look into the Mirror well and see yourself for what you are. Because we can ALL see you.

First see yourself and have a bit of shame. Your words make you appear like a young secondary school leaver.

Maybe you are not old enough to know that a President represents the entire country. In Nigeria, the President calls for ministerial nominations. Do you expect a certain Adebayo Babalola to appear as the ministerial nominee for Anambra state? Or do you expect a certain Gozie Chuks to represent Ekiti state as the minister? How do you expect the people to prevent the President from carrying out his constitutional responsibility of appointing people of his choice from all the states? Go school, una no go gree.

Do you do not know that politicians have friends cut across all parties? How many of them openly identify with their political opponents publicly knowing what the result would be? Sense is not sold in the market.

ijayalolo:
Seems you are not getting my point. In a game of numbers, I can give up 2 if it will gain me 3 or 4. Why did the famous Buhari's claim of "dot in a circle" not come back to haunt him?

How many has Tinubu lost, and how many has he gained since 2023. Whether by financial inducement, or by intimidation, or by rice and agbado, or gala and malt. He has gained more numbers than he has lost, out of who were his fiercest critics like Reno, Fani Kayode, Bwala, many northen heavyweights.

Tell me 1 single strong person that was anti-Obi in 2023 that is now pro-Obi. the reverse is the case we are seeing many Pro-Obi of 2023 becoming anti-Obi and this is just less than 6 months to election, instead of you people to cajole, persuade, pamper those that want to leave not to, and try to bring other people in, No, once the person doesn't support who you support the insults, abuse and co start raining.

Even if Obi can turn Nigeria to USA within 3 months, we would never know because you need numbers to get there first, numbers, not insults, not online banters like my football club against yours. Numbers and numbers, no matter where it is coming from. You an educated person is 1 and that woman that a can of Malt and one Gala is enough for has already knocked off your 1 despite all your education.



Thank you for your attention to the matter

You make me laugh. You seem to follow politics with no insight.

When APC won in 2014, in how many states did PDP retain power? Can you remember?
When Tinubu won in 2023, how many states did PDP and the opposition parties combined control?

How many members of the state and National Assembly decamped? Why did they all decamp since 2014? Simple. Politicians in Nigeria gravitates towards the person who controls the wealth. In this case, APC and whoever is the President.

When Obi defeats Tinubu, by the grace of God in 2027, would you expect “anywhere belle face” politicians to remain in APC? No. They will all become Obidients.

If Buhari’s “dot in the circle” comment did not haunt him, did it not haunt his party in 2023? Or was BAT not the flag bearer who faced was on the ballot? Did Buhari not lose in Aso rock?

You need numbers to win elections. But with those numbers, you need loyalty. Numbers come when loyal members remain and propagate the ideas of the leader. Nigerians do not do that. Study the USA and Europe. Parties have ideologies and only their ideologies convince their followers. That’s the same with the mullahs in Iran and those who believe them.

Kwankwanso and Obi were not in the same party in 2023. Kwankwanso, Galadima, etc were anti Obi, borrowing your words. Where are they today?

Goodvibes007:
If Obi can dump his side chick serah Ibrahim and his former VP datti baba, who are you.

Have you ever seen any one he mentored or turned into a leader?

The only person obi ever succefully groomed was his wife. The wife was 17 years when Obi groomed and married her.

At least he groomed someone.
He’s a very wealthy man.
He is married with children.
He is an employer of labour.
He was a governor and now pushes to be the President of the country.

Two questions for you.
1.Who have you groomed?
2. Looking at your present age, what can you pinpoint as an achievement?

Beautifulday:
If you break the law. Obi will come and bail you?

Don’t mind the agama lizard looking fellow.
Commit an offence in America and expect Jow Biden to ask the police to release you.

When will these irresponsible allow our institutions work?

ijayalolo:
The fact that you people still fail to understand is that in a democracy anybody and everybody is free to support whoever and for whatever reason. It could be based on Gala and malt, rice, dollars, my tribe, my religion, employment, road infrastructure, etc.

For you people to now think anybody that supports the other candidate aside your own is a devil or bad person to be castigated, abused, called all sort of names is the main reason it will be difficult for whoever, I mean whoever you guys support to win presidential election in Nigeria.

Democracy is a game of numbers, you look for more "friends" not more "enemies". Try to make others align with the reason you are supporting your own candidate (because you obviously have your own personal reason out of the ones I listed above), not raining curses and abuse on them for their own reason of supporting their candidates.

Politics is a game bro, if you don't know how to play it, YOU CAN NEVER WIN



Thank you for your attention to this matter

When one man screamed “emi lokan”, what was he implying?

When the same man stated that he had been getting ready since twenty years, building bridges and support bases, what did you expect?

If democracy is about “friends” and not “enemies”, can you explain why a man of the stature of El Rufai, who coordinated the north to support BAT is still in detention?

Sorry bro, politics is a game of interests and not friendships. Enmity is part of the game. You hear the words “political friendship”, “political interest” and “political enemy”. That’s the basis for Wike’s battle against Amaechi, Fubara and others.

“…in a democracy anybody and everybody is free…”. That’s incorrect. If it was correct, the likes of Tinubu cannot confidently talk about a particular group of men within and around him with pride, labeling them his most trusted people.

renderme:
Didnt u watch the video?
He was filmed at an event where seyi greeted him and he greeted back, then obidients camped on his page abusing him for hanging out with seyi Tinubu.

That’s why he made this video.

Why do you obidients attack only Yoruba people that u see hanging with Tinubu or his son? You never attack Blanca Ojukwu dt works for him, or Zack orji dt doesn’t miss any Tinubu campaign and is in full APC regalia.

The hypocrisy exposes the tribalism. The tribalism is too disgusting.

Just imagine how you contradict and disgrace yourself publicly.

While you talk about tribalism, you carelessly and myopically choose that path believing that Obi’s followers are tribalistic. Your blind choice does not let you know that Tinubu’s support cuts across tribes and religion, with APC controlling two states in the SE. Can you point to one state in the SW where Obi’s party controls? You also pretend not to know that Obi’s supporters cut across tribe and religion. So to you, Obi’s supporters are only those of his tribe, while Tinubu’s supporters are only of his own tribe.

Tell us how it is wrong for people to question the loyalty of Isaac Fayose, who they held in high esteem, believing him to be a staunch supporter of their leader, only for him to turn around and eulogize a political opponent, hoping to get away with it. Do you understand the word “loyalty”?

With the tag “backstabbers” labeled on a particular tribe, how do you expect the supporters not to see it that way?

Some of you are just like the Mullahs of Iran. You first attack, kill and hide. When a reprisal is launched, you shout genocide. You accuse others of tribalism, whereas that’s what you all personify.

If you took your time to listen to Isaac Fayose in that video, you’d have heard him saying that he had fun with Seyi Tinubu and others, who he hanged out with. Do you understand the meaning of “hang out”? Seyi Tinubu walked him to his car and they prayed together, according to him. In that same breathe, Isaac accused his own elder brother Ayo and said that their differences were political. Maybe you chose to ignore those words or your phone’s speaker did not permit you to hear him clearly.

nairalanda1:
So , apparently we should ignore possible conflict of interest in this case re APC and tinubu because...Peter Obi built houses for judges in Anambra state as well.

RIght. Better not justify any thing wrong.

Apparently when tinubu builds houses for judges it is righteous, when obi does it, it is evil. Why not query both?





So, when Peter Obi builds houses for judges, it is the right thing, when tinubu does it it is the wrong thing?

Why not query both men now?

Nigerians self. APC and Obidents na the same thing.

Now you appear to mix up and get yourself confused with my comments.

If you read my initial comment, you would have understood that I frowned at the mention of the name of Mr. Peter Obi because of all the leaders who built houses for judicial officers, Mr. Obi’s name was mentioned.

Next time, do not narrow your responses in such ways, without reading with understanding.

I was not in anyway agreeing with political leaders who purchase vehicles or build houses for judicial officers, no matter the name of the said political office holder.

Can we safely say that you have chosen to walk the same path as your eldest brother, whom you have been accusing for a very long time of hobnobbing with APC?

What changed overnight? Or did the so call prayers take hold over you?

Abeg tell us the truth about what changed.
Abi you chop backhand?

nairalanda1:
Yes, and let's also assume you don't build house for judges.

Rent in Abuja is very expensive. Even one bedroom apartment is far more expensive than some young people's salaries. It is cheaper in the satellite towns , but your fuel cost transporting yourself would at the end of the day eat a lot of money

That means judges would be in financial trobule...so what do they do? Yes, they will listen to the government intermiediary who offers BRIBES AND INDUCEMENTS, to get more money.

It works both ways.



Which is why I said, in the part of my post that you did not read, that judges should approach a bank AND GET A MORTGAGE. No government or other inducement, and dem go build their houses in peace, and over time pay back the loan.

FMBN, and a host of other mortgage banks offer loans. Many housing companies also offer financing for houses. Yes, payment, but at least over a period of time. A lot of abuja people do the thing.

I read you initial comment and understood your proposition. I simply was laying emphasis on the legality or not of politicians building houses for government officials, in this case judges.

Agreed with you. Judges are civil servants too. That’s the angle of Femi Falana, when he talked about fairness. If other civil servants can access loans to build their own homes, why should judges no chart the same course, which must be termed unnecessary? Why must emphasis be laid on buying huge and costly SUVs for judges, along with building houses for them? Can such judges be counted upon to deliver impartial judgements? By the way, why would the NJC not prohibit such gifts?

So, yes, if other civil servants can source for loans to build or purchase, judges who earn more can also avail themselves of such opportunities, to build and own their own houses.

nairalanda1:
Okay, let me reemphasize the fact that I do not support the government building houses for judges,if you are a judge you can aprroach mortgage banks and other banks like first bank that offer loans for houses that can be paid back. I also understand that if houses are not built for judges, they would end up paying expensive abuja rent, meaning that they would still be susceptible to bribery. Either way it is not a win win situation.


Now, the problem with government building houses for everyone is, that it would cost in the hundreds of trillions of naira to guarantee that every one of those people you mentioned has decent housing. Plus, keep in mind that new graduates in those professions are being produced everyday. Is government going to build houses for each of them?

Then house needs maintenance. My father owns his house, and he has done so for years, and he spends money on maintenance and repairs, because everything that man builds must be maintained and repaired. If government builds house for everyone, how go dey maintain am? Not everyone can maintain houses and repair them.

Shey people go pay taxes so that government can pay for house maintenance? See the problem?

The UK used to build houses for everyone. Na council house dem dey call am. By the 1980's it was costing the UK government too much money to maintain. So, they sold them to the occupiers. People criticise the thing, but for the last 40 years not one single UK government has brought back government house for everyone. Na Nigeria go do am?

We used to build houses for government workers. Obasanjo stopped it for most people in 2004 because it was costing money to maintain. IN some areas self, na the owner dey spend their money to maintain the government house..because no money. And this was way before apchsit government, so nothing to do with tinubu.

The way forward is mortgages. In some working places, workers cooperatives pool money together, buy land for house, and then get the workers to buy a plot and start building while paying back the moni bit by bit. E no easy.

Even now, our housing budget can only build enough houses for a fraction of the population. E no go even reach one eight of the need self.

There can be only one reason why houses are built for judges by politicians. The reason is corruption.

Nigerians must ask about the appropriateness of such acts, seeing that corruption is a very big issue in the country, with judges daily accused of issuing horrible orders or judgements.

We must ask if it is not the business of the National judicial council to carry out such acts as building houses or ensuring the welfare of judges. Housing should be an issue managed by the NJC, in its capacity as the governing body of the judiciary.

Again, building houses for judges questions the financial autonomy of the judiciary. We must ask if the judiciary is truly financially autonomous or reliant on the executive for provision of houses and vehicles.

AsomughaChuks02:
You didn't see Peter Obi when he did the same thing in Anambra, abi?

Youths without shame.

Of all the leaders in this country, you singled out Peter Obi? When Falana made that statement, did he mention a name? Was he wrong to enlighten citizens on the illegality of such spending.

If some of you would allow common sense and a bit more of knowledge, you’d know that the judiciary, legislature and executive are independent and so must operate separate budgets.

If not for the illiteracy among the youths like you, you’d know that it is inappropriate for the executive to build houses for judges, purchase vehicles or any form of gift. That’s why you all watch judges making wrong pronouncements all the time, when you support bribe taking judges. A reputable lawyer, who daily appears before judges, tell you out of experience that it is illegal and you fault his correct comment. Get small shame.

I do not blame Mrs. Tinubu for saying the youths are lazy.

ThinkSmarter:
River erosion pulled down mass of earth with the plants 🌲🌵 and due to the fact that the roots and the plants are aeroted, it floats as it's carried away by the flowing river.
Someone born in rural areas with streams and rivers won't be terrified with this.
Bamboos are used to checkmate the rivers erosion.

You got it, except the terrifying part.

It is very terrifying when you reside in such areas, especially during this season. You can wake up in the middle of the river, as many have experienced.

Bamboos do nothing at a particular level of detachment. You can find an entire 100 - 500 meters detached and completely or hopelessly cut off from the community. Infact in most cases, as is the process of erosion, you find the entire area crushed and crumbled into water, with houses going under.

“ Despite the dramatic appearance, the phenomenon has a scientific explanation. During periods of heavy rainfall and flooding, sections of riverbanks or wetlands can become unstable and break away due to erosion and strong water currents. When this happens, large masses of soil and vegetation remain intact and continue to float downstream, creating the illusion of a moving island”.

Correctly stated.
Large masses of soil break away as one unit, remain together and begin to float.
This happens all the time, particularly in vulnerable areas. Many communities along the bank of river Niger have been either been partly or completely washed away. I know a particular community on the bank of the river in Oshimili South of Delta state that has lost huge chunks of land to erosion and the river. Many of the citizens have long relocated and even what remains of the community is on the verge of collapse and a potential extinction of that community. Infact some comuunities wake up and find themselves in the river.

That calls the question why government has failed to dredge the river and other such that need government intervention. Politics appears to have been the cause of delay why many communities keep suffering. Meanwhile, when it is election time, politicians promise heaven and earth from them, while expecting votes.

This neglect is sad and painful. We are already in another rain season. Many communities will be asked to vacate round about September to avoid flooding and the associated damages.

Many farmers lose their crops and money through such sad loses. Why will government not tackle this issue one and for all? Why is it taking so much years of losses, cries and lamentation for government to dredge river Niger particularly and let the citizens have some peace of mind in their communities?

Richtaiwo:
If I talk now, one overzealous mod will ban me that I'm insulting igbos and it will appear as if it is bot. So let me keep quiet.

Hamza Bashir, one of the names mentioned. Such name must be familiar to you.

insidelife22:
Am ashamed I am a part of this generation.
God, blow your trumpet.
One man enrolled into a school as a man and graduated as a female.
He is from Lagos and lives rent free in ABJ

As man wey you be, mention the name na.

Clap for yasef.
Na three square meal you chop be that!

Oya, hold that qualification for hand go find work.
Dirty young lady, with no plan to live decently.

Na only you get mouth wey resemble ponmo.
Na only you get eyes wey swell like who dem box for face.
Na only you still wor wor.

How men no go take you to sample?
After you go call for help, carry holy water upandan.
Or you go begin find alfa or native doctor for help.

Muyiwaipere:
Nigerians...let's not be emotional and sentimental....honestly the guy did some very serious and wrong....but has a girl and virgin, wetin you find go man house without knowing him or supervision...are you mad or what?

See this women can be a temptation...I am talking from experience

“…I am talking from experience”.

Are you telling us that you are an experienced rapist?

judewrites:
It was a close game....

If not the tactical blunder of the England coach, the three lions should have won.

Please remind us again who won the match.

Not first time beating you and you are not married to him yet. Na until e kill you before you know say the eight years na ochofree the boy do with you?

Goo0dHardDick:
So Spain will be looking at Argentina bah? Spain wey beat France 2 - 0 ?

Spain that would have been dealing with england 3-0 by now

Spain wey no fit beat Cape Verde Abi which one?
Anything carry Messi enter final, na there una go see another monster.

izombie:
See how low LP has fallen. No one wan buy their ticket. N0nsense party and ingredient.

Arabambi and Abure continue to shadow box. The horse long left the stable.

Rather than face their party, they continue their illusionary chase of the man who projected the party in 2023.

It is sad to see how low LP has fallen because of the greed and intransigence of some top ranking members. Now it is time for those leaders to test their own popularity.