₦airaland Forum

dakmanzero:
I disagree.

Movies have a profound effect on people's perceptions.

That's why there exists a stringent ratings and classifications board, and why several million dollars can go down the drain for simply making certain remarks in the dialogue of a movie.

I really do not see what your points are am afraid. You are moving away from the subject matter, but allow me play along.

Yeah movie do have effect on people - it is an entertainment industry and as such, should be expected. However, in what way do movie affects people's perception? My 4 year old nephew knows that The Simpsons carton is just what it is, a cartoon and nothing more. He knows that WWF is scripted and not even real!

The ratings system is to make sure that the movies are within the boundry of the target audience. Period. A disney movie with a "U" rating is targeted at families and almost every one, hence nudity, sex and violence will be out of the question.

The point is the target audience of a fictional movie have the intelligence to realise it is nothing, but a fictional movie. Anyone who makes their assumption as facts based on a fictional movies then clearly is not part of the majority.

dakmanzero:
Why do you think a work of fiction like the da vinci code got so much attention?

Wake up people: Mass media is the opiate of the masses. Ignore the power of information at your peril. Allow subversives to hide behind the banner of 'fiction' and you will be the worse for it.

Erm media hype? The fact that people are fascinated about the book? The fact that many people like me checked it out to see what the hype is about?

You are taking the debate in a different direction am afraid. A fictional movie is exactly what it is, Fictional! To now try and claim people would probably perceive Lagos that way is just an insult to the intelligence of people in my opinion.

What an idiot. If there is a place hotter than hell, let him a presidential suite there.

iboboyz:
Na your papa get this forum? if you want to have private chats, use messenger or yahoo. As for your question, it doesn't deserve an answer. If you have a girlfriend, bring her to me for about 2 hours. She'll answer on my behalf

No. However, simple common sense will suggest that you do not go about derailing threads with you unnecessary statements. Hence why I pointed it out to you that it was never directed at you. Ask yourself, by jumping into a question that wasn't directed at you, what have you achieved? Jesus wept!

The mere fact that you will result to "bring your girlfriend" statements just goes to ask more question about your own sexuality. Again am asking: Are you insecure in your own sexuality?

I am not trying to justify what these police officers do. However can we really blame them? How much are they paid? What is the economic situation like? What adequate training and continuous professional development is available to these guys? Is corruption not endemic on every level back home?

To blame the police is probably not the way to go. They are merely a product of over 40years of incompetency, mismanagement and wide corruption. Just my two cents.

iboboyz:
Mr, make up your mind. Either you know what he means or you don't know. Or are you agreeing with what i said?

You never answered my question, hence am asking you again. Are you insecure in your own sexuality?

No I do not know what he was asking me originally. But to suggest it is about "homo-talk" just goes to show how insecure you are. Finally, it is a conversation between A and B, its totally have nothing to do with you as it wasn't directed at you.

Do you believe everything you read and hear

iboboyz:
na wah oh, so homo dey here, lol

Are you so insecure in your own sexuality? I am sure he do not mean it that way.

dakmanzero:
@Elrazur

I agree that it's nice to see the name of the country on the silver screen. Shows that there's more awareness of the region, which is good.

I also like the fact that they used a real Nigerian language, and that the SFX company outdid the producers by actually researching the region and basing the computer generated backgrounds on actual aerial photos of the Lagos skyline.

But this is a case of the bad outstripping the good. An average westerner watching this will just assume the region is another rwanda/blood diamond locale. And THAT is where the problem lies.

' Glad you see a few of my points.

I will have to disagree that your average westerner knows not to believe everything seen in a "Fictional movie". The emphasis here is the fictional movies. If it was presented as a factual movie now or based on true event - i.e the whole story - then you may have a point I would say.

ztyle:
Thanks Dude! . . .Can we relate?

I have no idea what that means.

maray:
@ElRazur,ur translation is superb,keep it up.

Thanks. I scored an A for my Yoruba exam during my JSCE [I think that is what it was called abi?] time in naija. So glad to see none of those stuff is all gone to waste yet. Strangely enough, I do not know how to read the "actual Yoruba"! You know the one with the "signs and dots" lol.

Bolarge:
Pity u flouted this same rule in the Obama family picture thread.

Haha I see what you did there.

blacksta:
Why?


there are has to be a tiping point and i think it is very near

June 12 was the tipping point! And nothing ever happened!!

In the words of fela "suffering and smiling" is what our people seem to do best.

Glad to be of service.

Fictional novels/stories use real names of places from time to time, but the actual setting is false. "Lagos. Nigeria" used in the movie do not automatically means there should be a true representation in my opinion. Let us take joy in the fact that out of all the other names of countries that could have used, they used us! That is enough for me.

I watched it at Odeon, and I immediately whip out my phone and emailed my brother about how pleased I was to see Naija in the movie. Perhaps that is the way to go, Just my two cents.

Edoji:
Ghana is already gaining notoriety as a drug trafficking route into Europe and the United states

So is all west african countries with porous borders.

Infoseye:
My gf is a hardcore gamer, she plays kombat games e.g mortal kombat, dead or alive. She is a die hard fan of God Of War 1,2 she cant wait to get a ps3 just to play GOD 3 when it hit the game store and dont ask me how she handles me in bed at times I ask her if she is related to kratos or a spatarn blood runs through her vains lol.

So that makes her a hardcore gamer? I doubt people know the meaning of a hard core gamer.

What is the max your GF ever spent on a game? How many hours a day does she spent on a console?

Your definition will suggest she is just your typical casual gamers with one or two favourite game am afraid.

Oh dear god.

Rule 125 of Forum etiquette.

Always know when to back down, when you have been beaten or out-debated. To carry on will make you look like a fool, and undermine your credibility in future discussion.

busi-bodi:
right and wrong: investigation can start from any end; there is no one-size fit all.

if you get murder weapon, you can trace who imported it into country, which people sells bullet for such weapon and how many people bought or have such weapon, etc

if you had CCTV this would also have helped for man-hunt.

In this case and in Nigeria; such crime do not just happen.

100% started by PEOPLE KNOWN to this woman.

You take them one after the other, check their MOTIVES, what they did, who they talk to for past 6month and you will find your anwser.

Moreoever,  a father or mother travelling alone out-or-into a country with two kids is already suspcious; normally whole family travel together or one parent alone.

A friend was questioned seriously in Canada for coming with two kids.

Quit paraphrasing my original points to then use it against me, Kinda weak. Finally, who says anything about murder weapon in the news link? Never mind.

I need the Yoruba Translation, pls help me 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There is a God who never sleep nor slumber
he see all my trouble
He hear me when i call

Olorun kan wa ti ko kin sun
Ori gbogbo wahala mi
Ogbo ohun mi ni igba ti mo ba pe [Or Ogbo mi ni igba ti mo 'un pe]

There is a God who feel all my pains
and he heals all my wound
and he wept aways my tears

Olorun kan wa ti 'o mo wahala mi
ti osi tumi lara
ti o wa omi je mi nu [Or ti o nu omi oju mi nu]

when i call him and he hear me
and i feel hes around to wept away my tears
and my worries.

O gbo mi ni igba ti mo pe
lati nu omi oju mi nu [Or lati nu omi 'je mi nu]
osi mu esoro mi lo [Takes away my problems/pains. Kinda hard to find a direct translation here]

There is a God somewhere who never sleep
nor slumber he always there to wept my tears
when eve i am in pains

Olorun kan wa ti o kin sun [slumber and sleep have similar meanings in Yoruba am afraid]
Osi ma nu omi oju mi nu [Or osi ma 'un mu omi oju mi kuro - Takes away my tears]
Ni igba ti mo ba wa ni irora

He will come give me peace of mind that why i love to
sing his praise.

Mo ni ife re tori o funmi ni ifokanbale ["I love him cuz he gives me peace of mind" that is the best way I can put that]
Eko orin iyin fun

Some people call him jehovah elshilda
(the God of sufficient)

Ohun ni oba Jehoba elshilda [He is the go of elshilda] It would fall out of tune to write it out any other way.

Some people call him jehovah shamah
(that his always there)

Ohun ni oba jehova shamah

My bishop call him jehovah too mama
(the God of too much)

Ohun ni oba too mama OR Bishobu mi pee ni oba to poo ju. [I will go for the first translation as it fits more in to the song]




That is the best I can do. Those who know better may help you more if needed. Goodluck.

What is good for the goose is not always good for the gander. Democracy in US is as old as the bible, whereas Nigeria is not even born yet. @Blacksta.

I will have a go at the translation tommorow. I just got back in and am tired.

Why are people up in arms for? The movie is a fiction. It is therefore weird for people to expect a true representation of Nigeria in a fictional movie.

I like it here.

On a serious note, the NPF needs over hauling, and no one can really fault them. They are doing the best they can, given the training and man power available to them.

PS
I don't watch CSI

lol @Kobojunkie, from what I can read here people appear to be mixing a few things up. Assuming [a big assumption here] the husband is connected, the police still have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he hired those guys. Their first and foremost focus is the actual gang that pulled the trigger. Not the husband, or the driver like some are pointing.

^^You cannot base your investigation on what was reported in the press.

Kobojunkie, You dey on fire from last night and today, 

PS
I saw the original post, before you edited it!

Eziachi:
In the world of sophisticated/civilized and well equiped police command, you will start any murder investigation of this sort by first looking closer to home, husband, wife, children, relatives and business associates before any other option. 80% of murders are committed or arranged by the person known to the victim (fact) but because in Nigeria it's sound taboo for people to believe that a wife had arranged and had her husband murdered or vice visa, therefore thousands of Nigerians had got away with one sort of murder or another.

Again I disagree. You start by evaluating the crime scene, circumstances, how it was carried out etc BFORE you start drawing up a list of possible suspects. If you we are to use your logic, then everyone is a suspect. This will delay the time it takes to actually getting the high priority suspects and the trail may run cold.

Eziachi:
Just because the husband is thousands of miles away doesn't make him a less suspect, that should even make him more of a suspect because the motive is there: money, children's custody, marriage breakdown.
If you hired assassins to kill for you, you don't stay around, but often as far away as possible to to secure an alibi of being away, but that doesn't wash with serious police investigators. But this is Nigeria with their 18th centuryNigerian police force without any sort of forensic , no autopsy etc.

Just because he is a few miles closer to the scene do not mean he is the main suspect either. Now, if he was 300 miles away at the time of the incident and this was proved and verified. It rules him out as the perpetrator of the crime, hence police focus will be on "who dunnit". It is after then, a link may be established if the husband have anything to do with it.

Well, above will be the way to go. That is the way I understand as to how these things work.

Yeah with Nigeria, it is a whole different ball game I must admit.

@OMOIBO

Who says they are the deciding factors?

You made a statement suggesting a CCTV footage may be useless if the face is not readily present or captured, and then I tried to explain to you as to how other things are used.

^^ English is not a strong point of certain writers in the Nigerian media. Or, it could have been a ploy to generate interest and newspaper sale.

The legend is fast becoming a fact,

^^ Football game is not based on looks. It is how the game engine works, you know the whole game not feeling mechanised and very predictable. Something some argue is obvious with Fifa.

If you pick up Pro evo and use Ronaldo on it, Ronaldo plays just like Ronaldo. And if you use henry, he plays just like the real henry. The thing is with Fifa, the players lack individual characteristics that is ever so present in the pro series, hence why a lot of people are not fussed about the "good looks" on fifa.

OMO IBO:
dont get me wrong. CCTV's are great tools but are mainly used to trail the actions of a subjects or objects.

where that subject or object fails to look in the direction of that camera, then it becomes harder to establish the person behind the crime.

Such "actions" can be used as primary evidence - London bombing comes to mind.

A subject do not necessarily have to look into a camera for it to be used as a form of evidence. Hence, why I mentioned expert witness already. Things like shoe makes, marks, clothes brand and other distinguished marks can be used even if the faces are not readily visible. Hairlines and shapes are just other ways that a suspect "identity" can be established or linked.

^^^ Arrghhhh your post makes my head hurts. Ever thought of using a paragraph? It will make it easier and clearer for people to read, and hence drive home your points more.

Also, why do you keep coming across like you are condescending others? The irony of it all is that, you actually need more "educationing" than those who have posted in here so far.

Bestiality cannot result into pregnancy. The sperms and eggs of different species do not mix and as a result cannot lead to pregnancy.

You can't keep telling people to "shush" just because they do not share the same view as you. You might as well just not post in here at all if that is your approach. Do not forget this is a public forum, and hardly can you tell people what to do and what not to do. Just my two cents.