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agbameta: Aregbe even paid you lazy, corrupt and incompetent clowns to do your job and repair your own stations..


smh..

I know the willy guy is not a politician , but is it that the willy willy guy does not have a political advisor ?, if this report is true, he ought to be prosecuted, as that is purely electoral fraud

He should have simply transferred his voters card registration from Lagos to his ward in Aguleri.

It will be deployed in Brazil 2014 world cup

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1345772/fifa-approves-goal-line-technology-for-2014-world-cup?cc=3888

In todays match, i believe the first half shot by the ethiopian that was cleared was a goal, i am not sure of the second half goal that was decided by the referee for the ethiopians


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0OK76hvg1s

Don Magic Juan: just like lekki airport, abi?

Lekki airport has not been commissioned

I give up on you, you are not worth it

Don Magic Juan: Well that is por journalism for you. We would not have been arguing about this project if the reporter had inquired and stated the energy source that will be required to generate 140mw in bauchi.

The project was commisoned over a year ago and was expected to have been completed by the time given for completion.

As I said read

Olodo

Stop embarassing yourself.

How can they commission a project, that has not been completed?

Don Magic Juan: I am now convinced your problem is data plan or lack of it.

Since you wont google here is the newsreel of the project when it was launched over a year ago. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/08/celebration-in-bauchi-as-solar-power-excites-cheers/

get your masters to upgrade you to at least a 12 hr unlimited data bundle

AH AH !, That report was on August 8, 2012, over a year and 3months It did not talk about any commissioning , but a plan. You see why i called you a daft creature.

It is most likely a white elephant project

Don Magic Juan: You are an incredible f00l or u suffer from ADD

The solar project is just one of the alternative energy sources that has just been recently commissioned.

The 140mw project is still in the pipeline as the original post and thread heading suggests and will be alternative based when completed.

Why are you so daft?

And you are still lying. .

No 30MW solar powered plant in bauchi was commissioned . Add this to your assignment, show us where a 30MW solar powered plant was commissioned in bauchi, concerned nairalanders wants to know

Don Magic Juan: Go to the Bauchi state government website.

http://www.bauchistate.gov.ng/index.php/ministries/power

click on power.

and READ for once you damn f00l.

The Bauchi government is exploring alternative energy sources with the chineese venture and have successfully deployed a functional solar powered farm which outputs 30mw which is far greater than what your masters have provided for themselves at the cost of 3.2b naira and which still requires daily fuel charge to output just 10mw.

odennis

I understand your kind of dolts very well, too lazy for critical reasoning.

As to boldened in red, you have lied again, Bauchi state govt has not deployed a 30MW solar powered farm. Why do you enjoy to lie?

Don Magic Juan: You did not even bother to read it. The alternative sources include both wind and solar.

You are a class act ignoramus and i was jus going back and forth with you so that others wont buy ur cheap sleaze.

You have failed in your assignment.

As a reminder, show all concerned nairalanders the source of fuel for the proposed 140MW Bauchi power plant .

Don Magic Juan: NO IT IS THE ONE THEY WILL CONSTRUCT TO POWER UR DAFT BRAIN

Give up, o ye fool.

Don Magic Juan: http://www.bauchistate.gov.ng/index.php/ministries/power



This was culled from the Bauchi State official website.

The Bauchi state government is opting for an"alternative" power source. Most likely wind. They also recently commissioned a solar farm

http://www.bauchistate.gov.ng/index.php/component/k2/item/55-bauchi-gets-solar-powered-electricity-plant-soon-governor




So your daft LASG governors are still opting for fossil fuels which should be cheaper to construct but more expensive to run daily.

When Nigeria divide where do you expect to get your LNG from?

Is that the 140 MW Power plant to be constructed in Bauchi ? Why are you so dishonest and criminal minded in the aim to prove your nonsense ? You went from claiming the bauchi plant will be wind, hydro and photo voltaic and now solar.

You are showing a project which is still projecting 20-30MW, not yet sure of the amount it will generate. It could as well be a white elephant project.

Don Magic Juan: Wind, Hydro and Photo-Voltaic.

You are speaking from your asss.


Where is the report that says the bauchi plant will be fuelled from (1) Wind (2) Hydro (3) Photo voltaic ?


You cant just be calling any rubbish that comes to your head, you have mentioned 3 fuel sources, which one is it? Where did you get the info?

Don Magic Juan: ode! name one gas plant located in the north.

The project is going to be either hydro-powered or from wind turbines.

magga

That is your assignment for now, go and find out what fuel will be used in the bauchi plant.

No room for assumptions or guessing , when you have the details you can come back on this thread and rant till you faint.

Don Magic Juan: It was the operating cost and not the total installation cost!

You keep lowering the bar on yourself!

Jeezus are u this daft?

Even at that , why will your so-called progressive LASG opt for a less economically viable daily operating cost technology?

You see why i said you are daft, if i used N140 litre of diesel to operate/run my generator and i now use N35 natural gas to operate it. is that not a substantial reduction in operational cost?

Don Magic Juan: It was the operating cost and not the total installation cost!

You keep lowering the bar on yourself!

Jeezus are u this daft?

Even at that , why will your so-called progressive LASG opt for a less economically viable daily operating cost technology?

Look in to the mirror and you will see a daft creature.

What kind of fuel will the bauchi plant run on? Give the answer or shut up

BayoAA: Let me begin by saying every power project is different even if they produce the same megawatt. What is important is the operation cost of the plant which is totally different from construction and procuremnt cost. Generation units has qualities which is a factor of cost. You cannot compare jenbacher gas engines, CAT engines or MTU engines with one ying long or xuaishai engine......if it is turbine ...u cannot compare GE, Siemens or Solar with their Chinese competitors. All these are cost factor.
Before I go into economy of scale of power plant, let me explain a typical power plant auxiliary systems. fuel processing system. This comprises of heat exchangers, regulating valves, motors etc. You will need one for each type of fuel to be used.
Water processing unit which comprises of storage tanks, complex filtration systems, pumps, waste water processing facility, fire protection water, demin facility (not always)
Cooling water system- comprises of cooling fans, blowers and pumps.
Now to the economy of scale......if you have a plant with a single engine/turbine of 10MW, u will need all these systems and also if u have a 200MW plant of 5 engines/turbines.......u still need all these auxiliary system even doh with higher capacity.....the cost effect is always minimal.

And for your information to everyone..........the cost of generating 1MW from a gas engine is higher that generating from a turbine.

Lagos IPP is a gas engine station while Bauchi is going to be a Turbine.

There are a lot of technicalities attached to the cost of a power plant hence don't let some journalist, internet freelance throw you in disarray.

My final word is all these power plants are right steps in right direction. Assumming these trend started since 1990, when the last power plants before OBJ were built, we will not be where we are today.

With the boldened, thank you for educating those miscreants.

The engine used was a General Electric Jenbancher engine, and the power plant also has a room for expansion from the current 10.34MW in the future.

1.05 standard cubic metre of gas generates the same amount of energy as 1 litre of diesel.

cost of 1.05 standard cubic metre of gas is N35 - N40.

cost of 1 litre of diesel is N140 - N150.

This translates to reduced operational cost, increased reliability and less emissions of greenhouse gases wnen compared with diesel

Don Magic Juan: The burden of proof is on you and not me, so kindly educate me where this pipeline is going to pass through.

While you stay ignorant, i am off to see the Super Eagles in action

Rad1cal: Bros, I want to believe that your factoring in the gas pipeline construction means you have dropped the weak excuse of economics of scale.

May I seek to also inform you that similar gas fired project of the FG with attendant need to lay gas pipelines also fell within the confines of below 270 million.

Now, were these gas pipeline already constructed before the commissioning of the plant ? Cos we were informed at commissioning the project gulped 3.2 billion naira.

Over to you.

if you are sincere with yourself, Economies of scale will also contribute to the cost of project.

The Gas pipelines laying fall within the scope of the project.

I have told you span of pipeline laid for the project will influence cost of project

If a 5km gas pipeline will be laid?, will the cost be the same for 20 km gas pipeline ?

Don Magic Juan: Where is this gas link facility located in Lagos?

I believe it most be located some where around a water front in order to have access to LNG tankers. That being said, how cost effective and safe will it be to pipe highly condensed and volatile gas from one end of Lagos to the other bearing in mind the high population density and urbanized nature of Lagos.

The truth be said there is no gas pipeline and you and I know it.

Oando will be making monthly supplies of LNG via truck haulage. Period!

You can ask google, if you want to know where gaslink facility is located in Lagos, i should not be teaching you how to find that out.

The Gas will be transported via designated routes underground via pipelines. through a "take or pay system", dont forget petrol and other petroleum products are transported via pipelines in Lagos by NNPC.

I dont have the exact length of Gas pipelines for this project, but i am aware for the Akute power project 13km of natural gas pipelines was constructed

I know you are irredeemably ignorant, and will make forceful attempts to stay ignorant, so that you can believe your lies

Don Magic Jua[b:
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So the gas pipeline is not even in place and the project is already being commissioned[/b]?

Will that not lead to another contract review or re-awarding in the next fiscal year? And also will the power plant remain idle until the gas pipe line is up and running? In the interim I forsee gas trucks supplying the plant.

I was simply explaining to you how the gas supply system works.


For the Alausa power project, gas pipelines have been laid to the plant from gas link facility, and constitutes a fraction in the N3.2 billion cost of the project.

Don Magic Juan: so how will they supply the gas to alausa? I know of only the Egbin Power station that is supplied by NGC pipeline and this project is not in partnership with NGC but Oando?

And stop insulting me

Gaslink a subsidiary of Oando plc is the gas supplier, and a pipeline will be laid from the plant location to the Gaslink facility.

Those natural gas pipelines are not cheap, and may span several kilometres, this contributes to cost of project

Don Magic Juan: Which gas pipeline? Why are you adding it now when we know there was none in the first place.
Oando is handling the project from inception, commission and also when it is up and running so that tells me that Oando will be supplying gas to the power plants but not by pipelines as you have mentioned but by normal truck haulage.

Dont expose your foolishness, Natural gas will not be supplied by truck haulage to the plant

Rad1cal: You are irreparably very dumb. Your trash above doesn't dispel the fact that simple arithmetic showed the LASG project was hugely inflated to the tune of 800 million.

How can economics of scale make a power plant project in Lagos with every indices of procurement , transport and deployment in her favour amount to 0.8 billion naira in excess, when compared to a project in Bauchi with many factors largely negating it.

You need to bury your small empty head in shame.

Can you answer a simple question like what is the source of fuel for the Bauchi gas plant?

For a natural gas powered plant, pipelines will be laid from the Natural gas Provider facility to the power plant location. I am sure for the Alausa power project natural gas pipelines were laid from gas supplier to loation of plant, and this increases the cost of project compared to a similar capacity diesel fired power plant.



I was involved in the evaluation of the 12.15 MW Akute power project by Lagos, which is a dual powered gas plant (diesel and natural gas).
13km of natural gas pipeline was laid from Gas link(the gas supplier) to the site of power plant, this definitely contributed to increase in cost of project compared to a diesel fired power plant. Environmental impact assessment also required that relevant stakeholders of areas where pipeline passes through are compensated .

The advantage of having a dual fired powered plant is that in the event something negative happens to the gas pipelines, it can be switched to diesel.


We must learn to be reasonable, and not make generic assumptions

Ekiti was created alongside 5 other states(zamfara, ebonyi, bayelsa, yobe and nasarrawa) in 1996. It has the least allocation per capita of all the 36 states, it has also had turbulent and unstable democratic experience that affected its development. I am of the believe that at the end of the current governors second term in 2018, the state would have a witnessed a step change/remarkable improvement.

I have seen a whole lot of foolishness and poor reasoning on this thread.

wengerjay: Na 1:30pm Nigerian time abeg.

My bad, 2:3opm CAT is 1:30pm nigerian time.

CAT operates on GMT +2 and Nigeria time is on GMT +1

hercules07: Lagos uses both diesel and gas to fire their plant, does the bauchi one use the same method? ?

I have a feeling bauchi's plant will be a diesel powered plant (i stand to be corrected), meaning there is no need to lay gas pipelines (lesser cost of project) . I am aware for the 12.15 MW Akute power plant, 13km Natural gas pipeline was laid from source of gas to plant location

A litre of diesel which cost roughly N150 per litre will generate as much energy as 1.05standard cubic metre of natural gas which cost roughly N40

Sincere 9gerian: Nonsense! We know all that already. We'r talking of massive difference here- N230 million per megawatt in Bauchi state versus the N400 million per megawatt in Lagos.

How did you arrive at N400 million per megawatts for lagos power plant, ? your calculation is fraudulent

^^^ "One technical post was removed" ?? Still the same huff and puff frm you, Never knew you were this empty.

, I actually wasted my time replying you, i wont do that anymore.

BabaAlabi: Backward Nigerian mentality! Always taking constructive criticism as jealousy or bad belle. Why would someone leave a well paying FIFA job for the unstable and corrupt NFF? Please learn to think before writing.

That was not even criticism, but admonition

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