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I hope it translates to victory on 16th of Nov.

alpontif: I am relaxed, I am not prone to losing my cool over issues with faceless bots on the internet, not in a 100 years.

I am not proud, just assertive. I know what I know.

But I am not gonna take this literally, coz this is not about me.

The issue is I do not think it smart that non domain experts discuss expert knowledge that ONLY domain experts can intelligently discuss without arriving at wrong conclusions. non experts do not even ask the right questions, since there premise is not backed by any technical training or experience in the domain to which the pretend to debate.

This usually results in misinformation and the propagation of half baked ''expert'' opinions.

You cannot find me discussing the merits and demerits of surgical techniques for complex proximal tibial fractures, that
can only be discussed by the domain experts, that is the surgeons practicing in that field, you may trust their conclusions, or not, but it is silly for a Civil engineer to start debating or discussing that.

Civil Engineering Design practices and construction is not forex or stock trading, that you can learn and understand practically without a proper technical training in it in a week.

Leave the domain topic to the domain experts, then you will not have a layman arguing with the Engineer on a project just because he got some misinformation from a forum on the internet.

You are so annoying .

You lead me on, and i was waiting for your "domain expert" opinion, and i did not see any, all i saw was long ranting epistle from you fighting everyone to stop commenting on the thread since they are not "domain experts"

Gosh, i wish i can sla* you from my system.

This is a captive power plant, a special purpose power plant to create direct value in terms of uniterrupted power supply for Alausa secretariat and its environs. Imagine you've got to process a document in Alausa secretariat, and you are told you will have to come back coz there is no power supply

Good step in the right direction by the LASG.

Sincere 9gerian: Many of the christian schools have been returned. Moreover if the schools now belong to the state govt, why would the state govt be begging the churches to have assess to the schools? Can you be denied assess to a property you'v taken control of?

Now i see, you dont have a grasp of the situation !

Osun state govt is only being diplomatic with the protesters

In osun state there are christian missionary public schools (like baptist /caholic pri/se. schools e.t.c)and muslim society public schools (Ansarudeen pri/sec. schools e.t.c) which are controlled by the state govt, since the policy of yesteryears that seized missionary schools from their pioneers, .those schools maintained their names and certain xteristics like mode of worship on assembly grounds e.t.c A school like ansarudeen pri school will most likely have a muslim praye r/ praise sessionr on morning assembly grounds, muslim students permitted to wear hijab and the baptist public school a christain prayer/prayer session.

The schools merger brought about a situation where students from former muslim society school were relocated to a christian missionary [b]public [/b]schools, this time a baptist missionary public school.

Anvaller: Hahaha look at this dude, ur logic is not logic if it is inconclusive. So how is it logically of any advantage for a student whose house is now farther to his/her new school? What point are u trying to make here? No matter how u slice it, a certain group of students have been disadvantaged by relocating their schools. Yes it might be benefit for some other students but who makes up for the students that will suffer for it?

I dont expect you to argue this, if you say it is inconclusive, why were you then making the foundation of your arguments based on something inconclusive.

If i see a pregnant women , i can say the baby in her womb is either male or female. Even if the husbands wants a male child. Not until delivery can we see the result.

She should stay away from making sensitive comments like this in this period of mourning, ms stella oduah should be diplomatic with her choice of words

Her 2years tenure in the aviation ministry has witnessed the highest number of plane crashes in history of nigeria.

She needs to go beyond the focus on painting and modelling of nigerian airports. Safety first

Definition of the kind of Jonathans committees

A group of men who individually can do nothing but as a group decide that nothing can be done

A group of the unwilling, chosen from the unfit, to do the unnecessary

A group of men who keep minutes and waste hours

kenbee: How many Governors mounted the podium for Mr Peter Obi? Even the Rochas? The point is:
1) APGA is like religion and it runs in the blood of an average Igbo man.
2) Ngige's popularlity can not be underestimated but APC really messed up with the deportation saga and is seen as bad market in Anambra.
3) Just as our western brothers will always invade the Igbos on nairaland, they will always beat drum for Ngige but the unfortunate koko is that they can't vote.

You mean APGA is like a religion ?, but how come APGA lost all the three (3) senatorial districts in the anambra 2011 elections.

Maybe APGA is now becoming an abandoned religion

Omen100: But this same man once accused Bola Tinubu of being behind his quandaries, so I don't get it.

My exact thought, i think he is suffering from hallucination.

theoctopus: Do you actually believe that increasing the font size has improved your post?

It is meant for agents of deception like you to keep shut.

theoctopus: Where in Tinubu's statement yesterday did he say the reason he is opposed to it is because it is not sovereign? If your point was valid, shouldn't he have stated that GEJ did not meet the requirements and he should change it to Sovereign National Conference as he earlier advocated? Do you call for its abortion because it is not sovereign or you call for a correction to meet what you earlier clamored for? You guys are clowns! You are not even helping Tinubu at all!

GEJ is a coward who will never call for a sovereign national conference, the national conference he has called for in the words of Tinubu is simply diversionary and deceptive

GEJ is trying to buy time and confuse people, Tinubu understand GEJ's script perfectly. i expect Femi okunrounmu to reject this appointment.
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there is a whole lot of difference between Sovereign National Conference and National Conference.


What Jonathan is proposing for is a National Conference, which when conducted the report can easily be made to gather dust.

What Tinubu is advocating for is a Sovereign National Conference

engroke: If I don't comment ere God wud not be happy, I actually served in osogbo between 2011 n 2012 @ osogbo grammar school. During my stay, I enjoyed the peaceful, clean economical osogbo but 1 thing I continue to criticize about the entire state is the educational system n the way osun indigenes worship Aregbe he appears to be a sharp guy that understand the politics of his homeland using ev ery opportunity 2 brainwash them. Aregbe was building new schools when d existing ones especially the 1 served were blessed wv delapitated class rooms, he hides under d guise of following d legacy of awolowo to deceive his people.to me he knows most of his people. Are illiterates and he is just outsmarting them what were they looking @ when he said all stdents shd wear same uniform, sing state anthem that does not relate to the state in any form nt even 1 lline of the anthem said anyfin abt osun. For osun indigenes they got what they wanted they asked 4 it here is it let them juss sit back and watch their hospital complex turn supermarkets when d poverty level in d state is very high how many peple would patronise the shorite self. There are lands in osogbo jaburata if he wants shopping mall let him build elsewhere and not such school that represents d state n shd b seen as a plus to the state

The new schools being built by Aregbesola, will it be used by students from Lagos state?

ematech2002: i wil not blame ogbeni for his action, osun deserve the purnishment, and to aregbe and his godfather, dey may nt value education cos dey are drop out as well. Da bin se da

To you : Feeding elementary primary school pupils balanced diet once a day for free is punishment.

Making more parents to enrol their wards to school and having the best primary school enrolment rate in nigeria is punishment

Building new and standard schools and moving the kids away from the former shanty schools mostly built in the 50's is punishment.

Employing teachers to shore up staffing strength in schools is punishment.

Giving out free school uniforms to pupils is punishment.

Giving out educational tablets (opon imo) to high school kids is punishment.

A fellow in the Nigerian Society of Engineers is a drop out.


From the above what i can conclude about you is that you have your head turned upside down, a sad pointer to our failed educational system.

Which kind of opinion poll is this?

The best way to conduct opinion is to simply ask, who will you vote for? not asking electorates to award marks for Political experience,Integrity,Antecedents,Responsibility and Competence, at the end of the day a typical electorate in anambra will not vote based on those criteria

Hmmmmn . The poor man and rich man will die, The good man and the wicked man will die. God understands.

I think what matters is the impact we made on earth

donmatin: d ideal of reshuffling is to make sure extra attention is given to students.

There are so many illogical folks here, This change will make monitoring and evaluation of schools and policy impact easier, improved learning and academic environment for students, standardisation of academic quality amongst public schools amongst others....

This kind of change or entrophy comes with some slight discomfort initially, but the big picture is massive gain to educational quality in osun.

Nothing much is going on in many of those poultry house like schools, the poor state of many of the schools encourages truancy on the part of students and teachers alike.

Human beings are usually afraid of change because of uncertainty, and more often than not oppose it.

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spade: LMFAO!!! A report by the bureau in Wikipedia! Chaaaaiii! Deadest!!!

And it's funny cuz the contributing writer who made that post on the ThisDay site, Tunde Odesola, is a resident of Osogbo, Osun State (probably a paid government butt licker). Nowhere else has that story been reported

Apart from thisday, as you said, other top dailies like punch, the nation, dailyindependent, the will e.t.c carried the news, and the NATIONAL BUREAU OF STATISTICS that was referenced by wikipedia has not come out to debunk the claims.

http://www.punchng.com/news/osun-tops-primary-school-enrolment-bureau/

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/osun-leads-in-nigerias-school-enrolment/

http://thewillnigeria.com/news/osun-leads-in-nigerias-school-enrolment/

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2012/12/aregbesolas-midas-touch-on-primary-school-pupils/.


All you dolts will continue to do is to rant, and in some few years, Osun will be a reference point in education standard.

Anvaller: This statement of urs in bold can not be true in the face of logic and I'd show u how. If a student lives at point A, a distance to the west of Oke Iragbiji sec schl which is situated at Point B and the new location, Baptist Schl is located at a distance to the east of Oke Iragbiji Sec Schl. Let's take that to be Point C. That means, the student who normally travels from Point A to Point B before would have to further make an additional travel to point C before reaching his new school every day. Ur claim just doesn't make any logical sense. U talked as if all students live and depart from ur home everyday.

And the main question should be when does student shuffling become a strategy to improve educational standard? Do u improve educational standard of students by unduly unsettling them? Oh that might be the best strategy cos I might have forgotten that APC can never do wrong. Absolute trash!!! And now u are using the case study of one school in Iragbiji to dismiss the reported inconveniences in Oshogbo and other location as if the same is true for every other locations. Since u don't live in Oshogbo, u have no basis to be a part of this convo either.

Your attempt at teaching logic failed. Teacher dont teach me nonsense #in fela's voice

Let me teach you simple logic.
Relocation of students from one school to another could mean the student house is now closer to his/her new school OR the the student house is now farther to his/her new school .

Please dont try to argue this with me, i know i am right.

donmatin: how many of you commenting are presently in osun state?am a Corper here precisely at Iragbiji.stop talking thrash bcus d students were not sent to locations not close to der houses.oke-iragbiji junior secondary is now located at baptist skull iragbiji which is not far from der homes.I walk every day from my house at oke-iragbiji to baptist.why not confirm from those here b4 u start antagonizing Rauf.

Pardon their ignorance, although for some of them it is not ignorance but "bad belle". The education reforms is already working in osun state, as osun state is now number 1 of all 36 states in primary school enrolment.
http://www.punchng.com/news/osun-tops-primary-school-enrolment-bureau/.

he that is down need fear no fall, the state has less than 2% pass rate in WASSCE (where pass is at least 5 credits maths & english inclusive) ,
the only way now is up. I am so certain of this.

dexter1983: Aregbesola inaugurates Middle School

Posted by: Our Reporter in Featured, News 7 hours ago

The Osun State government yesterday inaugurated the Salvation Army Middle School in Osogbo, the state capital.

The school is one of the 100 elementary, 50 middle and 20 high schools being built under the O’School initiative.

Parents and pupils defied the rain to witness the event.

Governor Rauf Aregbesola said the inauguration was a reaffirmation that Osun’s education policy is “a train engineered for a one-way trip to success”.

He said O’School was conceived at the education summit organised by his administration when he assumed office to address infrastructural decay in public schools.

Aregbesola said: “The summit was to address the decay we met in public schools, which we found unacceptable. The summit, attended by eminent Nigerians like the Nobel Laureate, Prof. Wole Soyinka, came up with a reform blueprint to overhaul the public education sector.

“We have since been working assiduously to implement the reforms. The inauguration of this school is evidence that all is going as planned with our reform. As part of the reform, we decided to reorganise the school system into Elementary, Middle and High School categories.

“The Elementary Level, comprising pupils aged 6 to 9 corresponds with primary 1 to 4 in the existing system. The Middle Level is from primary 4 to Junior Secondary School (JSS III) for pupils aged 10 to 14, now classified as Grades 5 to 9. The High School Level covers ages 15 to 17 and corresponds with the Senior Secondary School III (SS III), known as Grades 10-12.”

Aregbesola said the Elementary and Middle Schools would each accommodate 900 pupils, while the High School is to accommodate 3,000 pupils.

He said the High Schools had a mega structure, comprising three schools with facilities for all subjects, including state-of-the-art laboratories, as well as recreation centres and a food court.

The governor said: “The overall aim of the reforms we are carrying out is to develop the new man intellectually, socially and morally. This new man is placed in the centre of the society where he views his development as part of and for the development of the society.

“This is a non-parasitic and non-oppressive man, who views his existence in the light of the growth of others. He views whatever he acquires to be subsumed in the overall interest of others. He is a man in himself and a man for society. This is the Omoluabi essence.”

Aregbesola urged parents to support the government by preparing their wards for the new system and dressing them up in the new uniform.

He said the government’s investment in education was already paying off with the improved performance of pupils in examinations.

The governor said besides the distribution of the Opon Imo (tablet of knowledge) and the school feeding programme, the economic ramification of the education reform was colossal.

He said: “Some 3,000 women have been employed for the Elementary feeding programme. This is in addition to the gains it has brought to the production capacity of farmers, who supply farm produce, poultry and beef for the food.”

Deputy Governor Mrs. Titi Laoye-Tomori, who doubles as the Commissioner for Education, said although the project did not come cheap, it was the crowning glory of the administration’s revolutionary agenda in the education sector.

Mrs. Laoye-Tomori said: “I feel like break-dancing, even at my age. I am excited and feel fulfilled. I thank God that I am alive to see the coming to fruition of a vision conceptualised and deployed by my indefatigable governor.”

Vice-Chairman of the Senate’s Committee on Education Sola Adeyeye said any nation that did not invest in the education of its youths would fail.

Adeyeye, who represents Osun Central Senatorial District, hailed the governor’s commitment in revamping education.

The professor of Molecular Biology said while many states have not accessed the UBEC funds because they could not contribute their counterpart fund, Osun had accessed it because it did not wait for the Federal Government to contribute its counterpart fund.

O’School Chairman Otunba Lai Oyeduntan said the state of education in the state was embarrassing before Aregbesola assumed office.

Oyeduntan said by the end of the year, 15 Middle, 13 Elementary and 10 High schools would be ready.

House of Assembly Speaker Najeem Salam said the administration’s policies had revived the education sector.
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For all those wondering if the new high schools will have laboratoties, the highlighted in red says it all

Unconfirmed reports says it is a small plane conveying Agagus body, over 20 feared dead.

delpee: 2000 students wearing the same uniform at that Okefia school (i know the place) makes me wonder. Are there enough labs/equipment and teachers/assistants to handle this large number of young students?

I know that merging of schools is a big issue for the poor. I'm aware of people who dropped out of school because their parents could not afford the cost of transportation. Is he providing free school buses?

IMO the mega school is not fantastic in design. Its just like the old big public schools in Lagos. The Rivers State mega schools are more modern, child friendly and probably better equipped.

Too much hype on what is happening in Osun by Lagos based indigenes really. Many residents complain about this. Comrade Aregbe should get real before its too late. I have nothing personal against him. Just a wish that he succeeds. He needs to dump the sychophants and listen to/ analyse alternative opinions before he ends up like Chief Akande.

. You will have to prove that the new schools do not have labs/equipments, or teachers in the old schools have been sacked or they resigned enmasse as such the new schools do not have enough teachers/assistants. I attended a public secondary school , and in my time the school population was over 4,000 and we were over 1800 in senior secondary school, and we had labs and equipments

More teachers are been recruited, as i am aware some resumed today.

The new session resumed today, how come you are aware of students who dropped out of school because their parents could not afford the cost of transportation ?

Rivers state has a budget almost 4 times that of Osun state, the Osun state has built its own kind of model school suitable for learning that meets the required functionality.

I will implore you not to allow the opposition in the state to tailor your opinion about the state govt, Do your thinking and assessment yourself.

dharrey2012: HAVE U BEEN TO A PUBLIC SCHOOL IN OSUN BEFORE?...........if u av, u won't be arguing blindly based on "I think".
Pls visit one today....!!!

You are the one making arguments based on "i think", and i spotted you out,instead of the fallacy you are operating with on the thread. i have cited some important references.
The level of rot in each of the public schools in Osun state varies, so what irrelevant question is if i have visited a public school in Osun state before? Will my visit to 1 or 2 schools in Osun state be suitable enough to form a general opinion of the rot in Osun schools?,I know the state government has a more holistic view of the rot than you have, and has fashioned a comprehensive policy to tackle it.
Like i said earlier, it cant get worse, it can only be better.

Gbawe: Indeed. Aside his huge achievements already in infrastructure in a short period, his urban regeneration plan is laudable. His brand new Abeokuta flagship town development project is really ambitious and impressive. One of the best on show in Nigeria currently behind the likes of Eko Atlantic City.

The plans for the light rail network throughout Ogun, which Lagos alone boast simila as far as I knowr, is also an example of a very transformational achievement capable of vastly changing the productivity, efficacy and way of life of a people. One only needs to visit London, Paris, New York et al to appreciate the important of modular/linked rail transport. Amosun certainly deserves a mention and I expect Ogun State to be vastly transformed for the better by the end of his tenure.

I also commend him in his drive to increased the IGR of Ogun state in a space of 2 years from less than 800 million naira to 4 billion Naira monthly

dharrey2012: The issue is dey av nt bn providing for 200, how wil dey provide for a thousand. Av u ever visited any public skul in osun state at all??. Must ppl r just graduates who doesn't even knw wat education is.
the problem isn't d system, pls get it into ur head. We av just refused to allow the system work. No matter how many times we change it it won't still work. Education shld b taken to d grass root, easy to access, effective.
U r talking of standardization with bringing pry school teachers over to teach secondary skul students?? What standard will dat add to skul. U also mentioned Administration, lolz, dey ask him to create one mega skul in each local government den.
A'rnt confused bro....we r experiencing it, not reading or watching it. If am confused, bro u r lost!!

You are confused !, if they have not been providing for labs and other facilities in schools before , it cant get worse, but only better, now the students are gradually moving from the ramshackled "poultry house" kind of school to upgraded and decent buildings, you have no proof that labs are not built and equipped in the new high schools, you are just foaming in the mouth, a typical error in reasoning common with half baked graduates like you. you have no proof that primary school teachers will now teach class 7-9 students. Also students in the elementary school are now properly fed once in a school day. I am aware the state govt is on a recruitment drive for additional teachers (Osun state Tescom), ( https://www.nairaland.com/1189513/osun-state-tescom-recruitment-2012/5 ). Osun state has witnessed a sharp increase in enrollment of kids in to public schools, and it now LEADS in Nigerias school enrolment ( https://www.nairaland.com/1426263/osun-leads-nigeria-school-enrolment )

dharrey2012: All these governors just keep getting it wrong. The problem with our education is not the 6-3-3-4 system, but people in charge not making it work.
Y didn't d governor try to make it work instead of creating confusion. No computer rooms, no laboratories (science students don't know what a test tube is). Now he is merging all high schools. How do u provide enuf labs for over 1000 science student in a single skul that he has now. Students will av to trek miles to get to their newly merged skuls (osogbo only has 3 senior skuls)
I av noticed that most people who praise dis governor's polices are nt based in OSUN state.
Pls if u r nt in Osun to av a first hand experience of all dis negative polices, shut up.

Be smart and sensible, this kind of merger strenghtens the administration of school, increased standardisation and makes monitoring and evaluation easier.

I am not getting the point you are trying to make, it seems you are confused, If the state govt can provide labs and equipments for 200 students , it can also do that for 1,000 students.

ojekof: where is my voter's card, this madness must nt continue. He should knw education is nt only about structure and merging of students. 2k uniform, non functional ipads, the whole state now construction site with no visible completed road! Second term my foot! Mr Governor should retake social studies & goverment along with the student to understand system of government.

The whole state is now a construction site, courtesy of a governor who have spent 2 yrs and 10months, and you call it madness? Shame on you

gratiaeo: •100 elementary school in the whole of Osun state?
•50 middle schools?
•20 high school? Somebody tell me this is not true.
There are over 200 elementary school in Onitsha only

You mean 200 elementary "poultry house" school in Onitsha.?

Governor State of Osun, Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola (Middle); his Deputy, Mrs Titi Laoye-Tomori; Chairman, Re-classification Committee on Public Schools in Osun, Dr. Ayoodele Owoade (iddle back row); Chairman, Parent Association of Public Schools in the State, Hon. Olatunbosun Rotimi (3rd right); a parent, Hon. Kola Faesan (right) and another parent, Comrade Fajuyigbe Niran (left), during the Parents Association of Public Schools in Osun’s [/b]solidarity visit to the Governor [b]to express their support on the on-going re-classification Scheme of Public Schools in the State, at the Governors office, Abere, Osogbo on Thursday 26-09-2013

olaezebala: I'll advice u stay away from this thread cause dey'll leave facts and attack u instead. That's what they do best.

Imagine that one coming here with photoshoped picture of mega school with grasses around it. Is that salvation Army in Alekuwodo cause that's the only completed mega sch?

They had cynics like you in mind, when they wrote this yesterday

You think it Photoshopped? NO! It’s one of the Newly Built Model Schools at Alekuwodo/Okefia Area of Osogbo, State of osun by Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola Administration.

The school is ready. Arrangement has been concluded for teaching-learning process to begin at this modern edifice by tomorrow, 2nd October 2013.

“‘Ogbeni envisioned this few years back, he has realised it. We need a visionary leaders like Rauf Aregbesola to move our dear nation forward’, a parent remarked

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