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Maynman:
The Nazareth in that verse is Nazoraiou.
This bible version correctly translates it.

Maynman:
Mark 14:67 compare to John 18:17

Maynman:
But truly, the early followers of Jesus were not called "Christian", they were called "followers of the way", the Nazarene.

Kobojunkie:
70 sons of Enlil?? Why do you go around making these things up? What do you gain from such ridiculousness?

Janosky:

1 Corinthians 13:9
"Our knowledge is incomplete and our ability to speak what God has revealed is incomplete."



Your gods of men anointed your IBERIBEISM with this oil (in screenshots) you are buying.

MUMU WAILER,
Stick 1 Corinthians 13:9 into your EMPTY skull & query your gods of men who put the life of your 3 deities in a bottle.

Kobojunkie:
You telling me I lied when it is obvious from your statements that you the confused one here mean absolutely nothing!

Again, no need to drag this meaninglessly on since it is all clear you don't have any thing tangible to bring forward in this except for the delusional lies you have been fed by your gods of men.

Kobojunkie:
You are still saying absolutely nothing! Look, no need to drag this on meaninglessly abeg!

Kobojunkie:
1. Your point is moot since Jesus Christ, the leader of the group, never called His followers Christians nor did He tell them that He sanctioned any names they would be called by others. So, again, stop dragging the meaningless things into this and calling them facts.

2. Rubbish! Jesus Christ was not a celebrated figure of the time so I am not sure why you continue to assert that a label given to His followers by pagans must be considered appropriate for the disciples He sent out.

3. History has it that Constantine made the religion official 300 years after Jesus Christ.

Are you attempting to deny what is official Roman history now?

There is no scriptural evidence of this fact which you claim. Scripture instead has it that the label arose when Pagans labeled the followers of Jesus Christ using that term, this long after Jesus Christ had departed from this earth. You seem to think it is OK to make up these facts of yours out of thin air.

4. Jesus Christ is not a movement but a Nation — a Kingdom. You labeled him as being merely a movement hence the reason why I have that there in quotes.

5. Rubbish! History records that the one who made official the movement came from Pagan attempts at hijacking the Kingdom of God— which they clearly had no real understanding of— was Constantine, the Roman Emperor, along with his political bishops who needed the power and control for their own benefit.

6. It is exactly the same thing. Approaching a situation you have little to no understanding of, and pretending you can simply claim it must be the same as the idea you cling to when details clearly reveal otherwise.

7. See storytelling! So history is lying now is what your claim is. Oh well!

Kobojunkiee:
1. It can't make sense because these things you continue to assert have nothing to do with what Jesus Christ Himself gave as LAW to His followers and commanded that they obey in order to show their love for Him.

2. They were called "Christians" by the Pagans. Were they instead to fight against the pagans for the label? No, they accepted that it was what they were called .... simple as that.

3. There is nothing stylish about making clear that the fact that the followers of Jesus Christ were labeled "Christians" at a point in time has absolutely nothing to do with the Religion that was eventually made official 300 years later by Pagans.

□ Jesus Christ made clear that His "movement" was to consist of only those who were of the blood of Jacob and of those who obeyed His Law alone.

□ The religion of Christianity is a movement founded by pagans on ideas that are not according to Jesus Christ's Law and comprised mostly of people who are not of the blood of Jacob.

How can they both be construed as one and the same? Is this claim any different from the Islamic claim that the God of Israel is the same Allah of the Muslims?

Before you think of coming at me again with another one of your desperate distractions, ask yourself this.

If Jesus Christ had been alive at the time Constantine and his political bishops came together to inaugurate the religion of Christianity as they did, would Jesus Christ have given them His stamp of approval given all He declared over 300 years before as God's everlasting and Unchanging decree?

Kobojunkiee:
1. You keep saying things that don't make sense.

Again, Jesus Christ never said He sanctions any of what His apostles supposedly welcomed

so I am not certain where you intend to go with any of that.

2. Stop desperately trying to derail from the topic here.

Again, according to Scripture, those who were chosen by Jesus Christ were all Israelites — of the blood of Jacob— and He equally sent them only to those who were of Jacob and they were all bound by the Law which is Jesus Christ.

The movement that was made official 300 years later by Constantine and his politicians who sat as bishops had nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His Law.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ never said He sanctions any of what His apostles supposedly welcomed, so I am not certain where you intend to go with any of that.

2. According to Scripture, those who were chosen by Jesus Christ were all Israelites — of the blood of Jacob— and He equally sent them only to those who were of Jacob and they were all bound by the Law which is Jesus Christ.

The movement that was made official 300 years later by Constantine and his politicians who sat as bishops had nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His Law.

Broveens42:
( Verse 3 rightly translated, simply means that the genealogy is not recorded, ie, the mother and father is not known or recorded and should not be confused for an immortal.
Just as some orphans do not know their parents.
Lol, you get the trick?)

[(Verse 11 simply means , the order of Melchizedek is perfect, hence, it is required since the order of Aaron isn't perfect...
Are you getting the gist?)

#Language structure
*Who has come not according to the law of fleshly commandment/order of Aron)
* Therefore, according to the power of endless life simply means, according to the order of Melchizedek stop putting abstract ideas in your heads.

Now let's look at the Errors

1aWhen something is according to an order, it means semblance, but jesus' mother/genealogy was known and recorded.
So someone was trying so hard to reconcile characters.

b. What was the need of selling the incarnation story when the context of Hebrews 7 was purely reincarnation concept(a popular Igbo concept). The whole concept of Hebrews, renders the Virgin birth story a fallacy.

2.a. Remember Melchizedek is already called king of peace and king of righteousness.

b. If the order of Melchizedek is already perfect according to the context of the story, what was the need of presenting another priest according to the order of Melchizedek?

Why not pray in Melchizedek's name?

If Melchizedek was non existent, it would make more sense to move away from the former (order of Aaron) to the later (order of the spirit that overwhelmed Mary or something)

Kobojunkie:
What you just said makes no sense.

The word was supposedly coined by a bunch of pagans in reference does not mean it was established as a religion at that time.

History instead has it that Constantine is the one who made official the religious movement that goes about using that same term.

Kobojunkie:
History has it that the Emperor Constantine, and other politically (and greed) minded bishops of his time established the religion you have today.

Kobojunkie:
There is no difference though. Christianity is a religion that was established by men on what are their doctrines and traditions and is wielded by men as a political tool of control over other men by which they gain power and weath over the controlled. That is what religion is and Christianity as well.

Janosky:
NWT is the most easily understood Bible translation on this planet.
Quote me anywhere!

oteneaaron:
Lol.

But you can't deny it can you?

😂😂

Janosky:
MUMU WAILER Ozuo pro max DECEIVING HIMSELF.

Go & restore Jadon Sancho into Man Utd's starting line up.

Do this your assignment or Continue your IBERIBEISM

Janosky:
First point:

"Everyone knows that JWs are NOT perfect,not even Paul or the first century believers"

2nd point:
JWs screenshot PROVEN evidence:

Oga, Sparrow's claim is NOT TRUE.

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmm, my brother you need to know what is subtle punishment for faithless miscreants!

for any interested follower who may be following the thread SILENTLY

their mission is to make you look stupid so you torment them by making things clear.

Take for instance achorladey (Emusan), MightySparrow and oteneaaron (Courz) whenever any of them ask a thought provoking question i will calmly address the matter using the scriptures but then when they don't know how to misconstrue things they return to their default mode: INSULTS

By then i will just leave them in their anguish!

Aemmyjah:
You're giving them relevance and attention

MaxInDHouse, Cornelboy, Janosky

Avoid these 4 people - Emusan, Courz, Acholardey, Oteneeran and all their monikers whether even if it sounds innocent

MaxInDHouse:
I have known you for years now and it's clear that you have no faith you're just following the crowd, nevertheless i will stop responding to your stupidity from now onward never ask me anything on this forum again because i will not respond to you again, if you have any question ask your friends since you accept Oyedepo and Kumuyi as ministers of your god even though you know they're against each other.

Goodbye!

MaxInDHouse:
You misconstrued it so i made it clearer.

Faithful people differ from innocent people so even though all looks innocent we must fish out the faithful ones among them.

You may continue agitating because whatever Maximus said is far far beyond your faithless mind so i have spoken whether you're OK with it or not is your own cup of coffee.

Faithful people will understand!

MightySparrow:

achorladey:
No wonder he wants us to avoid him completely or ban, block us from nairaland in order to peddle is shameless lying and manipulation of the scripture.


See the maximum contradiction using the same Bible verse within weeks on nairaland. Brother Aemmyjah and Brother cornelboy abi na sister cornelgirl in Jehovah make una come give una eyes food

achorladey:
There is always a BUT to be used to peddle your madness and insanities about the lies and manipulations packed into your brains

Now it is wrong timing your military intelligence didn't tell you should we wait for greed and selfishness is no more nothing will be done. Jesus was waiting for Judas Iscariot to be no more before he carried his numerous works of giving and bringing happiness to people



You have kept lying against the holy spirit and the apostles up till today we have not seen a scripture where Peter was chastised for what happened in Acts 4

MaxInDHouse:
The best way to solve the problem but this is a wrong timing because that can only work out when greed and selfishness is no more.
Until then whoever wants to go ahead with the move is going against God's will!

MaxInDHouse:
Faithful people are rare to come by but once we have passed the message across it awaken their spirit so even if they're not interested in religion before after listening to our message they want to know more.
That's why they will start searching for a better performing group which they can't find elsewhere!

MaxInDHouse:
The best way to resolve disparities is to share everything equally so that no one is in need of necessities of life {Act 4:34}

MaxInDHouse:
NO! You still don't get it, a faithful person will never give up in finding the one and only true religion where those having the same line of thought are unitedly doing God's will as they are working together as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers.

As imperfect humans we can't know what they are for real until during tough times when they will stick to the faith without let go:

MaxInDHouse:
I have said it repeatedly on this forum but you people don't read with understanding.

Faithful people can be found in different sects throughout the world even among those who are claiming Atheists and Agnostics, they are the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} Jesus sent us to fish out! Mark 1:17 compare to Luke 5:10

So once you're against the opinion of same line of thought among believers we know you're not one of those we are searching for!

MaxInDHouse:
I have known you for years now and it's clear that you have no faith you're just following the crowd, nevertheless i will stop responding to your stupidity from now onward never ask me anything on this forum again because i will not respond to you again, if you have any question ask your friends since you accept Oyedepo and Kumuyi as ministers of your god even though you know they're against each other.

Goodbye!