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MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ i never told you imperfect servants of God are infallible so how come you think they must not make mistake is what i don't grasp now!

You people will always claiming your GB make mistakes but you always defend ALL THEIR MISTAKES until these same gods in Warwick change their mouth (which you will still find a way to defend the mistakes).

And another thing is, if you people were asked to LIST MISTAKES this gods in Warwick have made or making, you'll change tune.

That's the problem when you're defending the doctrines of man rather than the Word of God and when you place your trust in men rather than the Son of God.

Eyinju112:
I can't condemn you neither your opinions 😁 as everyone has a right to their own opinion.

That's nice!

And we see things differently. As it stands I'm seeing 6 and you're seeing 9😁😁😁 so I don't wanna argue or talk no further, Whatever you like say, we don't care.

Exactly my point.

You are seeing 6 when GB are seeing 9.

So you don't care. Reason why you can't place the blame appropriately of what GB did rather than what people did.

And if anyone left the organization because of beards, he wasn't fit to be a Jehovah's witnesses in the first instance.
That's all I have to say.

Arise!!!

What of PEOPLE Watchtower disfellowshipped because of beards

You haven't said anything about that, why?

Were they vindicated or not?

Eyinju112:
You still don't get the answer?
What is love? Unconditional right?
What are the things you do for love?
Everything right?
If truly they love the organization and they want to serve Jehovah with his people, letting go of common beards shouldn't be a problem.

So funny how you're mixing everything up.

This isn't about LOVE but relationship with GOD.

Using God's name or His word to lie to people in other to put them in cage is what is at stake here.

If Watchtower didn't put beard as something against GOD many people won't take it seriously as well as WATCHTOWER ITSELF.

So your explanation here is out of it.

I'll give you an analogy from a true life experience.
My friend friend was dating a young lady, the lady chews gum on a steady, I mean she likes gum a lot, so unfortunately armed robbers came to their apartment robbed them off their money and then raped his girlfriend right to his face.
Because of what people would say he can't walk away from the relationship so he embraced the lady but as times goes on little things started to piss him off, everything was annoying to him in the house, so one day the lady was chewing gum as usual, the guy walked in and then said, I hate the fact that you chew gum all the time infact I'm no longer interested again. That was how he sent her packing oooo lol.

The guy isn't just seeing her chewing gum and he liked it like that, same as those ex jw aren't just knowing that Jehovah's witnesses don't keep beards and yet they were in the organization. But because they raped that girl and he's looking for a means to let her go, he made her chewing gum the problem to let her go, same way this people wanted their beards to be the reason they were disfelloshipped.

Now many of this brothers were born in Jehovah's organization, they loved the organization while growing, during teenage they know clearly they need to shave their beards, they were handling talks on the platforms but at a point they stopped loving the organization due to one reason or the other which is best known to them, they don't want to walk away so they don't hurt their families, so they start misbehaving knowing clearly well that Jehovah's organization don't condone some certain act or misbehaviors, they come up with silly and stupid act, because clearly they know what will become of them if they go against our way. The bible stated it in Gal 5vs 9 you can read that yourself. "We do well to remember that disfellowshipping is Jehovah’s arrangement and that it benefits the congregation and may benefit the wrongdoer. If an unrepentant wrongdoer were permitted to remain in the congregation, he could be a corrupting influence. So when we disfellowship this people, they leave the organization, and then many become rebellious 😁😁😁.

Your analogy is not matched here.

Watchtower makes it looks like having beared is against Jehovah but the people who rejected that knows it's not BIBLICAL and doesn't need to be followed.

They love Jehovah and want to serve Him without any confused or man made doctrines.

So if you want to give rule do it in your own understanding not by attaching it to God, with that people will know the rule(s) is just your own opinion.

But the moment you make it looks like it's from God because people love God, they'll try to conform with it and the next moment they discovered it's not from God they will start to revolt against it.

And another is if you are learning the bible with Jehovah's witnesses and you don't want to shave your beards that simply means you're not ready to be one of them.

The question is, does God forbid wearing beards?

If No! why must Watchtower makes it looks like God forbid it?

This is the real issue, you can close your eyes to this abnormality of Watchtower but the truth is, put the blame appropriately not on people who discovered the deceit of that rule.

At this moment, it's evident that those people who rejected the rule are vindicated today.

So, if you're the one how will you feel today?

And all these happened because you must follow the instructions of your GB blindly.

Love is unconditional, and because you love our organization will prompt you to become one of Jehovah's witnesses without beards, and if you're having a cold feet because of beards that means you are not ready to become a jw

This isn't about love.

This is about relationship with God.

Do you even know how God feels about this situation right now?

Do you know the impact of this on Watchtower?

Do you think those who were disfellowshipped because of this issue won't speak out the more?

Do you know how many disfellowshipped members groan in pains now because they got disfellowshipped for something they know it's true but condemned because of ordinary man made rule?

Well, you can keep defending GB but don't forget it's beard today, it can be another rule tomorrow.

Eyinju112:
Like I said and will still say, if anyone left the organization because he wants to keep beards that means he was never meant to be there in the first hand. If he can't abide with not keeping beards which is the simplest of all our doctrine, then he is not worthy or fit to be a Jehovah's witnesses.

You still didn't get it!

What of those your organisation forced out because of simple beard?

They didn't want to leave they just love it but the organisation is against it.

Now, the organisation says nothing is wrong with keeping beard but WHAT OF THOSE WHO WERE FORCED OUT BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE OR ALREADY AFFECTED BY THIS RULE?

Do you know what they will be feeling right now if you were to put your self in their shoes?

Which means those people were actually right for keeping beard yet the organisation through carnal mind of flesh chased these people out for worshipping their God.

How do you want God to feel about it?

Eyinju112:
As far as I'm concerned, this new development isn't a stumbling block for we Jehovah's witnesses.

Of course the gods in Warwick know it won't be a stumbling block for most of you because you'll swallow it.

But think about those who have been affected by the rule in the past. Those who have been disfellowshipped or shunned.

To you it's a development but have you asked yourself, is that how God works? God's plan is always plain not back and forth.

Anyone who left the organization because of beards was never ready to become a Jehovah's witnesses.

So what of people Watchtower disfellowshipped because of beards?

Will your organisation apologize to them and call them back?

These are the issues you people take for granted thinking it's not a serious one.

If Watchtower can disfellowship people for wearing beards, now that beards is allowed, don't you think Watchtower has become a stumbling block to those disfellowship?

In case you want to deny anyone was disfellowshipped for wearing beards.

Below is the evidence

achorladey:
They are tossed here and there by every wind of doctrine and trickery of their GODS of men keeping their brains under lies and manipulations

Exactly what God said through Paul "We must stop acting like children. We must not let deceitful people trick us by their false teachings, which are like winds that toss us around from place to place." Eph 4:14

Aemmyjah:
You are contradicting yourself sir
Go and check your stories and spot the lie
That means the story was entirely made-up
That's one thing about lies, you can't remember

See the lying liar false accuser like his father the Devil.

I'm challenging you to post the story here.

You knew nothing about something but was quick to start name calling.

Well, if you're not a covetous man like many JWs guys, you can't come to that conclusion.

Aemmyjah:
If you like
Keep tagging me

because you're surely a false accuser like your father the Devil.

You're in pains

Over your ignorance and falsehood.

Only a covetous man will be listening to stories of another woman he used to love who is now married and complaining about her husband, family to make him think she miss him

This is what I was talking about.

You started calling me a covetous man on story you knew nothing about.

Like I said before (which you'll still turn a blind eyes to as you have Devil as your father).

1. My friend and I were never married when she was telling me about HER BOYFRIEND (the supposed boyfriend), the promiscuous JWs guy isn't even her FIANCE not to talk of being HUSBAND. They are just boyfriend and girlfriend thing (because my friend hadn't gained admission then), which her mum told her she can't married him and her mum never give her the reason(s).

2. I got married before her and before my wedding I don't think I saw her for over 2 years because we're not living in the same state.

3. She got married this year Nov 4th, and before this another 3 years have passed without me and her see face to face.

So now, tell me;

1. Where did you get the information from that she was telling me everything about HER HUSBAND?

2. Where did you get the gist from that our discussion was because SHE MISSED ME?

You see, the reason why you're a false accuser like your father the Devil.

By their fruit you shall know them.

Aemmyjah:
Go back to that thread on Jehovah's Witnesses and marriage na
Clear like mirror 80

Since you know what I said, provide it here.

You're a liar and false accuser like your father the Devil.

Until you provide it, I won't stop using this tag on you.

Aemmyjah:
I de lie cos of wetin you talk?
Keep pretending na

If you're not a liar, provide what I said here.

The pretender and false accuser is you.

I know you're pained since I said my friend left your demonic organisation.

Aemmyjah:
How far that woman?
Is she still whining you to miss her by sending you tickling stories about her husband?

So you didn't read my last post to you then.

Reason it's not good to donate your brain to your fellow human.

What you knew nothing about yet accusing someone falsely.

You're a false accuser like your father the Devil

achorladey:
Apply the below into your madness and insanities peddling brains When you read, read to comprehend the post not to advance more lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains

Since he said Jehovah’s witnesses are not better than every other churches it therefore shows Jehovah’s witnesses are not the only one living according to God's words.

The reason you cannot answer the question, do Christendom teach the truth?

You can see how the intelligent officer wanted to shut him down at first for saying the truth all of them have been failing to say all this while

Now, they are feeling ashamed of the truth

NowYouKnow:
By the way, the idea that Jehovah's Witnesses do exactly every single thing the governing body tells us to do is false.

In every organisation, whether religious or non religious there will always be those that take things to the extreme and those that are open and think outside the box.

Let me give you an example. Some years ago, the governing body came up with a rule that any elder whose child is in a far away university must be dropped. Some elders pulled their children away from the university, some did not send their kids to the university, while some dropped from their position as elders willingly and sent their kids to any far away university of their choice.

Were they killed, flogged, disfellowshipped or shunned? The answer is NO.

My point is not all witnesses are the same. Some they groove life pass you and you're free to do what you want as long as you are not doing anything that is against God's commandments in the Bible.

What you stated here is what some JWs on this forum has been battling and shamelessly defending, they whitewash it and rebranded it by calling it "ONE LINE OF THOUGHT".

They will rather defend those men who claimed they are fallible than openly accept the truth of the scripture.

NowYouKnow:
Please he is not my brother.

To answer your question Jehovah's Witnesses reject blood transfusions based on interpretation of certain biblical passages. We believe that the Bible prohibits the consumption of blood, and this belief extends to receiving blood transfusions. The key scriptures they refer to include passages such as Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:10-14, and Acts 15:28-29.

Speaking of blood transfusion have you all seen this. A first of its kind.

I like your approach and honesty.

1. But do you think the verses you cited above can be wrongly applied by Watchtower because those verses never expressly talk about BLOOD TRANSFUSION which is a method in medical line to rescue people at the face of certain health challenge?

2. Bloodless treatment is initiated by the same people (scientists) who started blood transfusion, as scientists always improve in their research and development. But for now, bloodless treatment can't be applied in some certain situations, do you think someone in critical condition should not be transfused because some people in Warwick think's those verses actually talking about it?

3. What will be the fate of those JWs who have died or lost their loved ones when another new light on blood transfusion is received?

4. Lastly, do you think the true God is the one behind all this back and forth rules?

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing here is that the first president of Watchtower goes about with beard all his life so it was never a rule from the beginning but modest gentleman's ideology.
And now that it's no longer a norm in offices and public appearances as modest true Christians have no need taking it seriously again!

Lying liar JWs hallgoer miscreant.

If it's never a rule, why taking this step now?

Well, you can go to the similar thread of this that is on front page and see more receipt of your organisation

Aemmyjah:
Covetous man
My greetings to you

False accuser like your father the Devil.

I say hi from here

Janosky:
Sparrow LYING miscreant exposed by the Screenshots.


Your papa gods of men giving you gullible folks sheeples the life of your deities you paid for, for your protection while bodyguards surround his pulpit.
Oga Sparrow, carry your IBERIBEISM outta this forum..

I love how you always compare your gods in Warwick with people like this.

Definitely, you're proofing that they're not different.

Janosky:
Emusan,Did your Bible teach you to wear beard?

No!

So did your Bible teach you not to wear beard?

Where did your gods in Warwick saw it from before banning it?

MUMU WAILER DECEIVING HIMSELF and TWISTING the holy scriptures.

Which scripture did I twist?

I'm not the one who claimed JWs shouldn't wear bear and later reverted it

JaNosense when will you receive sense?

Janosky:
Emusan,did your Churchpreneurs and gods of men dish out 'new doctrines to you in the screenshot?

JWs matter dey give FAITHLESS miscreants joy & morning erections.

That's exactly my point, God warned us through Apostle Paul before hand.

Glad you couldn't twist that verse this time.

So that means your gods in Warwick and these men aren't different.

Bravo JaNosense!

MaxInDHouse:
Its obvious you've made up your mind so keep that and enjoy your weekend!

Why the excuse?

I thought you people believe in NEW LIGHT

Why can't you just agree that this is one of the New Light of Watchtower?

Janosky:
Courz IBERIBEISM LYING miscreant, Sifia pained slowpoke,MUMU for life.

Have you monitored the current annual JW worldwide Report?

The way you're trying to defend Watchtower stand against blood transfusion now. Then imagine, in fee years later this doctrines is reversed.

How will you fill?

Will you think about those JWs who lost their loved ones by refusing to take blood?

Will you think God is so confused to have allowed many JWs to have died before changing his mind?

Well, this is not new because the history of Watchtower acting exactly what Apostle Paul warned believers about in Ephesians 4:14 "We must stop acting like children. We must not let deceitful people trick us by their false teachings, which are like winds that toss us around from place to place." has always been there to see by a true followers of Christ.

Aemmyjah:
MightySparrow

Whether we wear beards or not is personal

We don't sell anointing oil either
Ask Papa

Whenever JWs lies are exposed, the usual rant is, it's our PERSONAL matter!

But you people will still go behind to say, JWs never teaches anything outside the BIBLE.

The only scripture every JWs need to be meditating on everyday is Ephesians 4:14 "We must stop acting like children. We must not let deceitful people trick us by their false teachings, which are like winds that toss us around from place to place."

Janosky:
Wetin concern Emusan with the form of medical treatment that JWs prefer?
I prefer blood fractions Emusan WAILING miscreant.

See the shameless hallgoer miscreant.

Why are you afraid to list the disadvantages of your blood fraction?

Well, the ignorance of JWs is that they don't know blood transfusion and Blood fraction is still dealing with BLOOD.

Where will JWs get the blood fraction since they don't donate BLOOD?

I enter hospital and discuss with my medical doctor & inform him I prefer blood fractions.

Are you the owner of the fraction?

Emusan LYING miscreant, will the doctor treat me & respect my choice?

Th doctor should have asked you to donate your BLOOD first.

Emusan MUMU WAILER.

List the disadvantages of blood fraction shameless hallgoer miscreant.

Kobojunkie:
Simply! What your church pastors and so-called spirit filled church goers speak is of gibberish and no language/tongue of any kind.

I'm sure if you're to be there in 1st century when the followers of Christ were speaking in tongues, you'll call it gibberish as such has never happened with the people of God before.

Well, God is bigger than you, so God has already said earlier how people will speak in different tongues and used Apostle Paul to shield more light on it. 1 Corin 14

Janosky:
Emusan MUMU WAILING miscreant DECEIVING HIMSELF.

Advantages of Transfusion-Free Medicine and Surgery--------------- treatment with blood fractions.


*Faster healing times.
*Faster recovery times.
*Fewer reactions from blood stored for a longer period of time.
*Less chance of infections.
* No risks from receiving the wrong blood in error.

www.pennmedicine.org › about-the-center

You listed the advantages.

One good thing about all these is that you haven't denied that blood fraction doesn't have disadvantages.

So take the bold step and be courageous enough to list the disadvantages as well.

Then you will proof here that you've taken your brain back from your gods in Warwick.

achorladey:
The Janosky aka JaNosense even hiding part of my evidence that hanged his werey peddling brains.

That's why you can't see him addressing someone's point critically but rather jumping up and down like kangaroo

Janosky:
Emusan LYING miscreant.
WAILER DECEIVING HIMSELF.

Glad you couldn't counter my point.

Janosky:
Who told you that BF has the same exact risks as BT?

I did.

Why can't you proof me wrong by screenshot the risks of Blood transfusion and Blood fraction?

You know you can't do that as lying liar you are.

Read this screenshot and receive SENSE.

MUMU WAILER

Nobody ask you for this JaNosense, provide the screenshot of blood transfusion riks and blood fraction risks.

oteneaaron:
1. If they are only true religion and only they are sole channel of communication with God, why couldn't they recognize the alteration of Matthew 28 VS 19 by the Catholic Church?

Matt 28:19 has always been part of the inspired Word of God.

But for NWT of JWs, definitely it added so many spurious words that were never part of any known manuscripts in possession today to sugarcoat their many unsupported doctrines.

Janosky:
Emusan LYING miscreant
Achorladey evidence:

"The risks....that occur with the use of a blood component. Most of these reactions are not common and can most often be easily managed. If an adverse reaction occurs, other methods to solve the problem may be used"[/b].

You haven't answered my question and E get why

What are the risks that occur with blood transfusion?

The risks that occur with blood transfusion can be found also with blood fraction injection.

So, why do you make it looks like blood transfusion is deadly when blood fraction injection also have the same risks?

Well, keep dodging my questions and peddling your lies and ignoramus.

You can see how the hallgoer miscreant dodged all my points because his skull is just full of dust.

JaNosense is saying blood fraction injection is standard medical procedures but what of Blood transfusion, is it not also a standard medical procedures?

Blood fraction injection has the same side effects as blood transfusion.

Why have you never screenshot the side effects to let your deluded brothers know that it's not good as you always do for blood transfusion?

Janosky:
If Emusan receives blood transfusion, this is Emusan response.......
Emusan post:
"What JWs will do is more than wailing because the fellow will be disfellowship"

Lying liar JWs hallgoer miscreant.

Where did you mention my moniker in that post?

Here is your post "I have a right to choose blood fractions injection.
JWs won't wail or lose sleep if you are transfused with all the blood in Nigeria's medical facilities."

Lying liar JWs like your father the Devil

Emusan brain nah purtohpurtoh.
Oga carry your Mumu komot from this thread

See painment from the great JaNosense

Janosky:
I have a right to choose blood fractions injection.

Blood fraction injection still has side effects. The same reason you rejected blood transfusion.

So, why don't you post the side effect of blood fraction to let people know the danger in it?

JWs won't wail or lose sleep if you are transfused with all the blood in Nigeria's medical facilities.

What JWs will do is more than wailing because the fellow will be disfellowship.

For you claim they have right to do.

Does that make sense?

Whatever JWs do, Emusan WAILS.

Just as your gods in Warwick and you wail whatever Christendom do

Mumu hallgoer miscreant JaNosense