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IjeBos:
Rephrase? Were there too many words in the question?

You made a comment about someone not being a Christian.

Seemed to be an ad-hominem.

I assume you said that because he called out Donald Trump.

I don't like judging people's faith, but I think it's easy to see Trump's.

If you have something to say, I'd like to hear it or did you just come here to be flippant?

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know how religions impress people!

For instance Deeperlife RCCG, Winners, Apostolic Faith, C.A.C and some others made it a law for their females not to wear earrings and makeup yet some of them their women only remove it when they're going to their churches but can they confirm such practice as mandatory for true believers?
The answer is NO because if they do churches like Catholics, Presbyterians, Anglican, Christ Embassy, Cherubim and Seraphim, Dunamis, Harvesters will protest and demand where it's mandated in the scriptures.
So what are they using such rules for?
To impress observers!

But Jehovah's Witnesses will never impress anyone with our beliefs in fact our beliefs even irritates observers the most what they only noticed is our behaviour in the society as we are easygoing and obedient to those in authority.

That's what the organization meant when we say "we don't compare ourselves to anyone"
We stand out to observe only what we know is mandatory for true believers so if you're not ready to live by such rules then we stay away from you during sacred services not hypocritically praying and singing with you when we hold seriously certain rules that you ignored!

MaxInDHouse:
It's obvious you don't understand what you're saying because this is the problem your friend has:

No JW will tell you that any religion is the worst performing organization because we know all of them are doing their best to impress observers.

It's them that's worried over the standard by which we operate as we refused to pray with them nor marry them.

So they're all coming against Jehovah's Witnesses even though we don't compare ourselves with them in anyway!

MaxInDHouse:
The organization isn't comparing itself with any of your churches rather we are saying this is the one and only organization producing the FRUIT of God's kingdom as the scriptures foretold.

MaxInDHouse:
Because i chose to ignore you and your stupid friends doesn't mean there is no reasonable answer to your question but it's faithlessness that's worrying all of you.

Those criticizing, antagonizing and attacking the Israelites back then also concluded that it was all about delusion that's why Jehovah told His people to go into the promised land and destroy them.

So no matter the explanation faithless people like you will continue to think it's coincidence and nothing special.

How did people from different geographical locations on this planet come to agree with just few Americans regarding what God's word promised to settle all their disparities among themselves in a peaceful way? Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:1

How did these few men convinced all of them to become zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word without pay? Act 1:8

How did they get to erase hatred in the hearts of millions throughout the earth including the world's most racist nations like Iraq, Iran, Russia, Japan, Saudi Arabia, China, Afiganisitan and many others? Zephaniah 3:9

How were they convinced about the coming kingdom of Christ so that they conform to the teachings of Christ regarding love for enemies, neighbours and fellow believers in all other countries? Matthew 5:43-48; Luke 6:27-28; John 13:34-35

How were they convinced to live simple lives in a world that's filled with materialistic pursuit? Matthew 6:19-21

Your response to all these thought provoking questions remain the same: DELUSION!

Ọmọ your faithlessness can never ever erase what God promised in His word neither can it erase what we have heard with our ears and seen with our eyes! Act 4:20

IjeBos:
So, how would define a Christian that would make Donald Trump one? Curious.

MaxInDHouse:
They are NOT Christians but gullible followers of politicians disguising as ministers of God so whatever their politically oriented leaders say determines their beliefs!

Maynman:
Jesus followers were called Nazarene not "christians", even the word "Christian" didn't exist in 1st century AD.

Maynman:
The Nazareth in that verse is Nazoraiou.
This bible version correctly translates it.

Maynman:
Mark 14:67 compare to John 18:17

Maynman:
But truly, the early followers of Jesus were not called "Christian", they were called "followers of the way", the Nazarene.

Kobojunkie:
70 sons of Enlil?? Why do you go around making these things up? What do you gain from such ridiculousness?

Janosky:

1 Corinthians 13:9
"Our knowledge is incomplete and our ability to speak what God has revealed is incomplete."



Your gods of men anointed your IBERIBEISM with this oil (in screenshots) you are buying.

MUMU WAILER,
Stick 1 Corinthians 13:9 into your EMPTY skull & query your gods of men who put the life of your 3 deities in a bottle.

Kobojunkie:
You telling me I lied when it is obvious from your statements that you the confused one here mean absolutely nothing!

Again, no need to drag this meaninglessly on since it is all clear you don't have any thing tangible to bring forward in this except for the delusional lies you have been fed by your gods of men.

Kobojunkie:
You are still saying absolutely nothing! Look, no need to drag this on meaninglessly abeg!

Kobojunkie:
1. Your point is moot since Jesus Christ, the leader of the group, never called His followers Christians nor did He tell them that He sanctioned any names they would be called by others. So, again, stop dragging the meaningless things into this and calling them facts.

2. Rubbish! Jesus Christ was not a celebrated figure of the time so I am not sure why you continue to assert that a label given to His followers by pagans must be considered appropriate for the disciples He sent out.

3. History has it that Constantine made the religion official 300 years after Jesus Christ.

Are you attempting to deny what is official Roman history now?

There is no scriptural evidence of this fact which you claim. Scripture instead has it that the label arose when Pagans labeled the followers of Jesus Christ using that term, this long after Jesus Christ had departed from this earth. You seem to think it is OK to make up these facts of yours out of thin air.

4. Jesus Christ is not a movement but a Nation — a Kingdom. You labeled him as being merely a movement hence the reason why I have that there in quotes.

5. Rubbish! History records that the one who made official the movement came from Pagan attempts at hijacking the Kingdom of God— which they clearly had no real understanding of— was Constantine, the Roman Emperor, along with his political bishops who needed the power and control for their own benefit.

6. It is exactly the same thing. Approaching a situation you have little to no understanding of, and pretending you can simply claim it must be the same as the idea you cling to when details clearly reveal otherwise.

7. See storytelling! So history is lying now is what your claim is. Oh well!

Kobojunkiee:
1. It can't make sense because these things you continue to assert have nothing to do with what Jesus Christ Himself gave as LAW to His followers and commanded that they obey in order to show their love for Him.

2. They were called "Christians" by the Pagans. Were they instead to fight against the pagans for the label? No, they accepted that it was what they were called .... simple as that.

3. There is nothing stylish about making clear that the fact that the followers of Jesus Christ were labeled "Christians" at a point in time has absolutely nothing to do with the Religion that was eventually made official 300 years later by Pagans.

□ Jesus Christ made clear that His "movement" was to consist of only those who were of the blood of Jacob and of those who obeyed His Law alone.

□ The religion of Christianity is a movement founded by pagans on ideas that are not according to Jesus Christ's Law and comprised mostly of people who are not of the blood of Jacob.

How can they both be construed as one and the same? Is this claim any different from the Islamic claim that the God of Israel is the same Allah of the Muslims?

Before you think of coming at me again with another one of your desperate distractions, ask yourself this.

If Jesus Christ had been alive at the time Constantine and his political bishops came together to inaugurate the religion of Christianity as they did, would Jesus Christ have given them His stamp of approval given all He declared over 300 years before as God's everlasting and Unchanging decree?

Kobojunkiee:
1. You keep saying things that don't make sense.

Again, Jesus Christ never said He sanctions any of what His apostles supposedly welcomed

so I am not certain where you intend to go with any of that.

2. Stop desperately trying to derail from the topic here.

Again, according to Scripture, those who were chosen by Jesus Christ were all Israelites — of the blood of Jacob— and He equally sent them only to those who were of Jacob and they were all bound by the Law which is Jesus Christ.

The movement that was made official 300 years later by Constantine and his politicians who sat as bishops had nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His Law.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ never said He sanctions any of what His apostles supposedly welcomed, so I am not certain where you intend to go with any of that.

2. According to Scripture, those who were chosen by Jesus Christ were all Israelites — of the blood of Jacob— and He equally sent them only to those who were of Jacob and they were all bound by the Law which is Jesus Christ.

The movement that was made official 300 years later by Constantine and his politicians who sat as bishops had nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His Law.

Broveens42:
( Verse 3 rightly translated, simply means that the genealogy is not recorded, ie, the mother and father is not known or recorded and should not be confused for an immortal.
Just as some orphans do not know their parents.
Lol, you get the trick?)

[(Verse 11 simply means , the order of Melchizedek is perfect, hence, it is required since the order of Aaron isn't perfect...
Are you getting the gist?)

#Language structure
*Who has come not according to the law of fleshly commandment/order of Aron)
* Therefore, according to the power of endless life simply means, according to the order of Melchizedek stop putting abstract ideas in your heads.

Now let's look at the Errors

1aWhen something is according to an order, it means semblance, but jesus' mother/genealogy was known and recorded.
So someone was trying so hard to reconcile characters.

b. What was the need of selling the incarnation story when the context of Hebrews 7 was purely reincarnation concept(a popular Igbo concept). The whole concept of Hebrews, renders the Virgin birth story a fallacy.

2.a. Remember Melchizedek is already called king of peace and king of righteousness.

b. If the order of Melchizedek is already perfect according to the context of the story, what was the need of presenting another priest according to the order of Melchizedek?

Why not pray in Melchizedek's name?

If Melchizedek was non existent, it would make more sense to move away from the former (order of Aaron) to the later (order of the spirit that overwhelmed Mary or something)

Kobojunkie:
What you just said makes no sense.

The word was supposedly coined by a bunch of pagans in reference does not mean it was established as a religion at that time.

History instead has it that Constantine is the one who made official the religious movement that goes about using that same term.

Kobojunkie:
History has it that the Emperor Constantine, and other politically (and greed) minded bishops of his time established the religion you have today.

Kobojunkie:
There is no difference though. Christianity is a religion that was established by men on what are their doctrines and traditions and is wielded by men as a political tool of control over other men by which they gain power and weath over the controlled. That is what religion is and Christianity as well.

Janosky:
NWT is the most easily understood Bible translation on this planet.
Quote me anywhere!

oteneaaron:
Lol.

But you can't deny it can you?

😂😂

Janosky:
MUMU WAILER Ozuo pro max DECEIVING HIMSELF.

Go & restore Jadon Sancho into Man Utd's starting line up.

Do this your assignment or Continue your IBERIBEISM

Janosky:
First point:

"Everyone knows that JWs are NOT perfect,not even Paul or the first century believers"

2nd point:
JWs screenshot PROVEN evidence:

Oga, Sparrow's claim is NOT TRUE.

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmm, my brother you need to know what is subtle punishment for faithless miscreants!

for any interested follower who may be following the thread SILENTLY

their mission is to make you look stupid so you torment them by making things clear.

Take for instance achorladey (Emusan), MightySparrow and oteneaaron (Courz) whenever any of them ask a thought provoking question i will calmly address the matter using the scriptures but then when they don't know how to misconstrue things they return to their default mode: INSULTS

By then i will just leave them in their anguish!

Aemmyjah:
You're giving them relevance and attention

MaxInDHouse, Cornelboy, Janosky

Avoid these 4 people - Emusan, Courz, Acholardey, Oteneeran and all their monikers whether even if it sounds innocent

MaxInDHouse:
I have known you for years now and it's clear that you have no faith you're just following the crowd, nevertheless i will stop responding to your stupidity from now onward never ask me anything on this forum again because i will not respond to you again, if you have any question ask your friends since you accept Oyedepo and Kumuyi as ministers of your god even though you know they're against each other.

Goodbye!

MaxInDHouse:
You misconstrued it so i made it clearer.

Faithful people differ from innocent people so even though all looks innocent we must fish out the faithful ones among them.

You may continue agitating because whatever Maximus said is far far beyond your faithless mind so i have spoken whether you're OK with it or not is your own cup of coffee.

Faithful people will understand!

MightySparrow: