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achorladey:
You see the madman peddler typing huh. They runaway when caught in their lies.

This one that even lied and was trying to manipulate himself about his membership. Saying I am yet to be a bona fide Jehovah’s witnesses only to change mouth again that he is one of them.

They came up with fallacious claims and when asked to proof their claims, it becomes problem for them.

1. Watchtower agreed that there has always been TRUTH LOVERS for centuries. Yet the idiot believes his own lied that "Christianity was lost along the way."

2. JWs are not the only denomination that doesn't believe in the doctrine of Trinity. Yet they will be making it looks like they are the only one who opposed it.

When the issue of Trinity has been in dispute even before Russell's great grandfather will ever come to this earth.

The challenge is, they should list just one DOCTRINE JWs uphold today that has never been known over the years before Russell founded Watchtower.

cornelboy:
Huh

Can you proof all what I wrote above wrong?

cornelboy:
But true Christianity was lost along the way.

When will you people stop this day light lies.

True Christianity was lost along the way but you have:

1. A compilation of book called Bible after the death of the Apostles.

2. The coin of the name 'Jehovah' which you not only claim today but associated with 💯%

3. People who were burnt to death for their faith like Wycliffe, Tyndale e.t.c which your organisation also recognised as TRUTH LOVER.

4. If true Christianity has been lost along the way, did Jesus give Russell A NEW BOOK?

Many Christians were killed and a political leader took over the church and established a lot of unscriptural doctrines.

List the doctrines of JWs let's see if it has never been talked about long before Russell even came into the picture.

Go and check history well. The Roman Catholics were more evil and brutal than Mohammad and the Muslims.

Does this means there were no TRUE CHRISTIAN?

They went about killing people and commit a lot of atrocities in the name if Christianity.

But some people opposed them, if there were no TRUE CHRISTIAN, who are those people opposing them?

The apostles and early church never believed in the trinity doctrines, but believed in a one person God, the Father. Check the bolded above verses.

Many church before Russell came into the picture never believe in Trinity.

In fact, dispute about Trinity started and can be traced back to the 2nd century.

Even till today many denominations still don't believe in Trinity, so what is your argument all about?

[quoteThe apostles and early church never celebrated Christmas, birthdays or any celebration originated from paganism.[/quote]Likewise people like Origin, Tyndale, Wycliffe e.t.c never celebrated Birthday, Christmas or any celebration originated from paganism.

Besides, do you have Bible verse where it is written that Birthday and Christmas celebration are forbidden?

The apostles and early church never participated in politics and military but eagerly waited for God's kingdom/government. They were politically neutral.
And so on.

Many Christians today still don't participate in politics and WILL NEVER JOIN MILITARY.

For instance, Nigeria population is over 200m, yet only 98m registered for voter's card (I know many JWs who possess voter's card, even though they don't need it to vote) and the just concluded election less than 40m people voted.

Many people like me don't have voter's card, talkless of participating in politics.

Military and paramilitary strength of Nigeria as today not even up to 1m.

So what is the essence of your point here?

Guess who are following the footsteps of the early church today, the Jehovah witnesses.

In the screenshot below after your organisation affirmed that "Throughout the centuries, there have been truth lover".... They concluded with"Jehovah knows those who belong to Him"

But in above you lied that "True Christianity was lost along the way"

So when did you become JEHOVAH to have known who is actually following the footsteps of the early church today?

achorladey:
You will think they are making sense until you subject their taught to scrutiny .

MaxInDHouse typed..........

The babies will be saved through the faithfulness of those caring for them.

Cornelboy typed.............. Babies know nothing but faithless until they prove they are faithful to God.

Based on what they typed above a faithless baby will still be saved or gain entry into God's kingdom as it were

They will rather make their God a mad God than be proven to be liars and manipulators.

Now see what their GODS housed in USA stated in their publications........

The unrighteous” include billions of people who did not have the opportunity to know Jehovah(someone who did know cannot exercise faith However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? ). Even though they died, Jehovah hasn’t forgotten them. He will resurrect them, and they will have the opportunity to learn about him and serve him

against what MaxInDHouse the manipulator and liar typed.....



Cc Emusan, advocatejare, Courz

Just like I said earlier, you will know that point really hit them hard. He has to open a new thread and see how they have been confusing themselves.

Well no matter how they spine or twist the scripture, God will always put them to shame.

achorladey:
What has the above got to do with the founder of your religious organization?

When you are told that all you believe as truth today is what you obtained from those you call Christendom, the next thing for you is to start peddling your no get sense and mumu peddlings with your brains over it and start calling Christendom lie, lie Christians.

Do you think I call him JaNosense for no reason?

Very dull.

Even the screenshot he provided says those people believe that Michael is not A CREATED ANGEL BUT ETERNAL ONE!

Well let me see what he will say to this same Wikipedia since Wikipedia has become his Bible

Janosky:
Slaves of Trinity GIBBERISH,wake up from your delusion.
Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael.

Your leading mentors knew that- Martin Luther, John Calvin, Charles Spurgeon etc

Can you provide the same Wikipedia articles screenshot on who is the FOUNDER OF JEHOVAH WITNESS?

Let's see if Russell is the one or not?

Janosky:
Emusan LIAR,this is the manifest symptoms of your self DECEIT

JaNosense, when are you picking your brain from those 8 lying old men in Warwick?

Misinformed hallgoer miscreant

Janosky:
Emusan ,the very day you humble yourself & upgrade your comprehension skills, your LYING and self DECEIT would disappear like morning mist.

Do you know how the appellation 'JaNosense' came up?

It's simply because the brain our Great God gave you have been submitted to those lying 8 old men in Warwick.

Lying liar hallgoer miscreant.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ nah now i know say them don vex patapata.
The matter dey pain them no be small o!

We know who is in severe pain and rush to create another thread to further the initial confusion

Aemmyjah:
You know what parasites do na
Wherever you go, dem go follow

Look who is here, it's Mr 'COMPLETELY INNOCENT' man

achorladey:
Manipulator and liar choked on his lies and manipulations

According to MaxInDHouse.......

You know how many times they switched gear on that INNOCENT issue?

One out of confusion even said "COMPLETELY INNOCENT"

achorladey:
You know the torment is real when you see MaxInDHouse creates a thread like this

The torment can't be deny here

And to even think that his deluded brother JaNosense was trying to prove that even CHILDREN aren't innocent either.

He was willing to flog some people over this same issue on Innocence. When his lies and manipulations were exposed he started to go the way of avoidance only to come back and create a thread to peddle more lies, manipulations, madness and insanities about innocence with being faithful as cover

You can see how enraged they are once scriptural truth are presented to them and they can't counter it.

You know they spend their entire time with only Watchtower magazine and Awake with just Bible references.

Until someone point out the lies in those books they'll do Bible check and see the truth in it.

Well, since those gods in Warwick must be defended at all cost, they must find a way of twisting any scripture and you see them restless about it.

Does your Jehovah approves the righteous and the innocent?

I wait till you return to Sodom and Gomorrah, or the Noah flood


Oya come back and change mouth that your God only care about the faithful not the innocent. That account is from your God. You will either lie against your God today or continue your life here on nairaland as a liar and manipulator.


Aemmyjah, Cornelboy and Janosky come and see your lying brother in full action.

These ones you're calling are blind, so they won't see what you're saying but only what their deluded brother says

Emusan, Courz, Oteneaaron, advocatejare come and see how MaxInDHouse is still feeling the torment that Babies are innocent


MaxInDHouse are you happy? Psalms 1:1

Go and desist from lies and manipulations of the scriptures and don't hide behind the cover of avoiding apostates

This one na discussion. When you create another post next time say apostates are not welcomed so you can have freedom to propagate your lies and manipulations

Nairaland na watchtower property shebi?

Let me just

achorladey:
When caught in their lies and manipulations they start looking for what to compare



The mumu and no get sense peddling peddler caught in lies once. Where did you see in Emusan post that Jesus invested money in his church?


1 Corinthians 15:12 no sell again . You are just peddling your no mumu and no get sense over the scriptures. It is expected, your brains are filled with lies and manipulations packed into it by your GODS

You can even see how the dull JaNosense move away from my points and started peddling his lie around.

MaxInDHouse:
I've known Emusan for some time now he's only interested in exchanging words with JWs that's all he could do.

At least you know that I defend my faith with those hallgoer miscreants

So i don't take him serious as he has nothing tangible to offer than blind arguments!

Thank you!

When the lying liar knows his lies have been exposed.

The thread title is 'WHO IS THE FOUNDER OF JEHOVAH WITNESS ORGANISATION?'

The lying liar hallgoer miscreant agreed that RUSSELL FOUNDED WATCHTOWER.

Yet he still arguing blindly when he can't spin the lie anymore.

This JaNosense won't stop to amaze someone

Janosky:
Emusan LIAR in sifia pains WAILING

If you're not in severe pains, you won't know this.

LYING FAITHLESS miscreant, that's your first assignment today.

Lying misinformed hallgoer miscreant, what is your own assignment for today?

Emusan you must provide evidence that your comprehension skills is improving.

Which evidence do you want and how do you want it JaNosense?

Emusan LIAR,
Does your Church belong to Jesus?

Yes!

How much in dollar terms is Jesus investment in your own Church & where is the receipt?

I never claimed Jesus BOUGHT MY CHURCH.

Did I?

Not Mr Russell.
So your first assignment,
Or continue WAILING

So who started it?

The person doesn't have name?

Who did Jesus Christ inform that he chose your own Church Worshipping 3 deities?

So you agree that Jesus never informed anybody that He chooses IBSA

You claim your Church belong to Jesus.

Yes!

How much in monetary terms did Jesus invest in your Church franchise everywhere?

I never claimed Jesus bought it from ANYONE.

since you agreed that Jesus bought it from Russell, how much?

Lying liar hallgoer miscreant

The evidence that you people submitted your brains to those 8 lying old men in Warwick is so crystal clear

Janosky:
1 Corinthians 15:12
12 But tell me this—since we preach that Christ rose from the dead, why are some of you saying there will be no resurrection of the dead?

JaNosense, do you understand that @color part or you need Bible study on that?

Emusan, do you AGREE that @1 Corinthians 15:12 ,the Corinthian brethrens teaching "there will be no resurrection of the dead."

@underlined is your idiotic insertion.

It MEANS:

1. Jesus was not with the Corinthian brethren.
2. Jesus didn't direct the Corinthian brethren.
3. Jesus never choose the Corinthian brethren.
4. Holy spirit and Jehovah never support nor dish spiritual food through Corinthian brethren..
5. The Corinthian brethren was never part of those ruling with Jesus Christ.[/b]

1. What you failed to understand in all this JaNosense is that the Corinthians Brethren NEVER claimed THEY WERE TAUGHT BY JESUS AND JEHOVAH that there won't be Resurrection of the dead. (If they had made this claim, then it'll surely contradict the teaching of Paul)

2. They never claimed Jesus directed them to say there won't be Resurrection of the dead.

3. They never claimed they are the MOUTHPIECE OF JEHOVAH.

4. Reason why Jesus used ANOTHER PERSON (Paul) to tell them the truth and once they received this truth, they never confused on the truth later years by reverting back to the old saying of (there won't be Resurrection of the dead like your demonic organisation does.

The fact is, you know what Russell taught was claimed to be from God and years later it found out to be lies (even when Russell himself took it as truth). Yet you still believe he is part of those ruling with Jesus in heaven.

Clown everywhere

MaxInDHouse:
Your impatience is really affecting you my guy

Just as your ignorance is fast killing you.

this is what all your friends have been agitating for right from the start of this thread.

Whatever the clown meant by this.

Russell is the founder of WATCHTOWER that is what he invested all his wealth on

If not because your brain is paining you, what are you still arguing for after the @color?

Oponu Oniro oshi

not the group called International Bible Students Association (IBSA)

Who started the group called IBSA, if not Russell?

Lying liar hallgoer miscreant.

So try to calm down and get things straight in order to know exactly what you're agitating for.

You better go and collect your brain from your Hall.

©Russell is the FOUNDER of WATCHTOWER the publishing company.

Again you agreed that Russell is the FOUNDER.

So how much does Russell sell it to Jesus?

©International Bible Students Association IBSA is a group of researchers studying the Bible to know what Christians should be doing today.

So who started the group?

©Jesus chose that group because they are ever willing to make amendments in whatever they got from the churches of Christendom.

Who did Jesus informed that He choose IBSA?

©So Jesus needed a publishing company that will be used to print whatever his group needed so he bought the Watchtower from Russell.

Good, so how much did Jesus buy it from Russell?

Now you can reboot to figure out whatever you want to agitate about!

You better reboot on your lies and deceptions.

MaxInDHouse:
Watchtower was Russell's property not the group

Good!

Which means Russell is the founder.

Cc:

Achorladey

Advocatejare

so Jesus bought Watchtower for the group he chose.

Which means Jesus isn't the FOUNDER but only BOUGHT IT.

Now, can you provide the receipt Russell issued to Jesus after the seal deal?

Do you understand it now?

Shameless hallgoer miscreant

And you think what you said makes any sense

See how the misinformed hallgoer miscreant used style to boycott my questions

MaxInDHouse:
You're worried over too many things!

How do you know if you're not in my shoe?

Jesus chose the group called International Bible Students Association (IBSA) not Russell.

So that means you lied earlier when you claimed Jesus BOUGHT it from Russell

There's a receipt here

So that's why the group has continued to make improvement after Russell's death!

Just say they are continuing to CHANGE Jesus teachings given to Russell

jaephoenix:
Who are the 'atheist gods'?

The ones telling you everything you believe about Atheist

advocatejare:
It’s not the foolish things you write that matter, it’s the truth: Russell left the Adventist cos of failed prophecy given in Adventist to establish his own movement/cult which you refer to as a religion, unfortunately the same cult is notorious for failed prophecies

This is the truth they all know but still decided to be blinded with delusion.

Russell’s successor then decided to give the cult a new name and you’re saying that Russell is not the founder and you want to lie that Jesus founded the Jw organization and bought the Watchtower from the fraud called Russell, we asked you for proof and you have been crying like Egbere since then.

The funny thing about all this is that, in one breath they acknowledge the errors of Russell and his pagan team in the early time of Watchtower development and in another breath they'll like to gaslight and pass it off as irrelevant things so that, people won't use it against them.

Using more lies to cover up the previous lies.

Your task is simple: show your proof from the Bible where Jesus claimed to have established a religion, where he named the religion JW, and where he bought the Watchtower from Russell

It's on record that he claimed Jesus Bought Watchtower from Russell.

Meaning Russell was the ACTUAL FOUNDER.

Jack Is the founder of Twitter but Elon Musk BOUGHT from Jack.

Till thy kingdom come, Jack remains the founder of Twitter despite the fact that Elon has bought it.

So you can see, any other peddling and manipulation he can do, he has already agreed that Russell is the founder.

MaxInDHouse:
This is why i have been ignoring you because you keep on dwelling on matters that has been resolved.

Who resolved the matters?

How many times do i have to tell you that Russell is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

But you said Jesus bought it from Russell.

So how can Jesus bought something from the person who isn't a founder of it?

Anyways, Russell is still part of those ruling with Jesus in heaven as the founder

I even quoted a current member of the church practicing what Russell established for you to grasp that the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses totally preach and teach what differs from Russell's ideology yet you keep dragging the matter back as if you're on default mode!

So if what Russell taught are different to what your organisation is teaching today. IT MEANS:

1. Jesus was not with Russell
2. Jesus didn't direct Russell.
3. Jesus never choose Russell
4. Holy spirit and Jehovah never support nor dish spiritual food through Russell.
5. Russell was never part of those ruling with Jesus Christ.
6. 1914 was just Russell philosophy
7. "Faithful and discreet slave" was just hoax

Watch as he'll Change mouth now

MaxInDHouse:
As big as this forum is you can't breathe without MaxInDhouse!

Just say I'm removing breath from Maximumu

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ i don't have any business with you na you dey follow me up and down the forum!

because the forum was created for you alone!

Idiotic lying liar hallgoer miscreant

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not stupid then why quoting me since you're not here in defense of Mr Kumuyi?

Your stupidity didn't let you know when I put that to rest, as you don't even understand the OP

OPONU ONIRO Oshi

MaxInDHouse:
Off point!

Lying liar hallgoer miscreant.

Hallgoer miscreant: The name Christian is CURSED AND BASTARDIZED

Me: Are JWs now a Christian?

Hallgoer miscreant: YES!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, Mr Kumuyi isn't expecting anything from those rulers he's just protecting his business center in Gbagada.
That's the truth!

That's Kumuyi cup of tea!

The truth is you're a shameless hallgoer miscreant who siad the name Christian is a CURSED AND BASTARDIZED yet claiming to be a Christian again.

achorladey:
Yet the same smileys are happiness and joys for you. Liar and manipulator always making claims for side A and side B at same time to propagate lies and manipulations on nairaland.

You know him, when his lies are exposed. He looks for a way to divert attention.

You claimed a name has been cursed and bastardized. Yet you still went ahead to associate yourself with the said name.

Is that not self inflicted delusion?

He also has short memory joined his lying mouth reason why he says something and in few time he has forgotten what he said and sealed it up with another lies.

MaxInDHouse:
Faithless miscreant!
The smileys can't substitute for your sadness

If you're not in pain and sad, you can't know this!

Shameless hallgoer miscreant.

i know how bitter you are now for putting yourself through all these mess supporting Kumuyi.

The only person bitter is the one jumping from thread to thread claiming a name has been CURSED and BASTARDIZED, yet sneaks in to associate with the said name.

So try to purge out those scriptural quotations and their practical applications from your skull!

See how a supposed lying military intelligence officer is constructing sentence.

Read the above again and tell me how it makes sense to you.

Lying liar JWs hallgoer miscreant.

MaxInDHouse:
So faithless miscreant

Misinformed hallgoer miscreant.

continue crying we have left the group name "CHRISTIANS" for you now to do whatever you wish with it

That's why I said you misinformed hallgoer miscreant don't have shame and lie at will like your father the Devil.


You just said JWS are CHRISTIANS and in not more than 1 page you started claiming you HAVE LEFT IT.

but our God now call us by another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isaiah 65:15

I'm not the one who force it into your mouth that JWS ARE CHRISTIAN, you did. Oponu Oniro oshi

See receipt at the attached screenshot

So enjoy your CURSED and bastardized name your gods have called you with.

MaxInDHouse:
We are the original but when fake ones like you have become so many with your contradicting teachings we have to step aside!

You step aside but you're still claiming that you're a Christian.

Can you see how dumb you are?

Shameless hallgoer miscreant

Janosky:
These FAITHLESS miscreants they pretend to believe in the holy Bible but argue against the inspired word of God revealed to them from their own Bible.

Job 25:4 cause dem sifia pains & WAILING upandan.

"How can one born of woman be INNOCENT"

They continue WAILING as if babies were ever born by spirits. .

No wonder you're restless

Babies are innocent.

True or false?