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MaxInDHouse:
Guy when you are ready you will come out openly just a YES or NO is all i need then i will respond to whatever you want to know but until then abeg keep whatever you think you know!

Answer my questions first. It's just Yes or No!

If you keep whatever you know with yourself you won't be on this thread till page 9. So, listen to your own advice first.

MaxInDHouse:
What is your answer, YES ot NO?

So you're blind when I provided answer.

Now, go back to my first post you'll find the answer there.

Now, answer my questions.

MaxInDHouse:
Did Jesus lied when he said John is Elijah?

YES or NO?

I've answered your question.

Answer mine.

Is Jesus Micheal a teaching or preaching?
Is Jesus God a preaching or teaching?

MaxInDHouse:
YES or NO.

Meaning

MightySparrow:
Another delusional topic.

He now agreed that there's a Christian.

Before, he hypocritically condemned the same NAME CHRISTIAN and elevate the name Jehovah Witness.

In fact, he openly said "Anyone who thinks he belongs to Christ under the cursed and perverted name (Christian) should think twice" and the person has a thread titled "Difference between a Christian and Jehovah Witness"

Janosky:
Oga, why do you pretend you don't understand the screenshot?
Read this screenshot for the next 24 hours until it sticks firmly......

Your screenshot only explained the meaning of divine.

My question is very simple.

Is the Father divine or not?

Janosky:
Acts 3:19-23, because Jesus Christ would perform the function similar to Moses.

Did God save disobedient Israelites who refused to listen to Moses?
No.


Acts 3:19-23, Will God save disobedient people who refused to listen to Jesus ?
No.

So Jesus whom Jehovah Himself created and used to create ALL OTHER THINGS including Moses himself is also like Moses

Always try to pick your brain from your hall before coming out.

Janosky:
Is God a Spirit?
Yes.

Are angels Spirits having a Father?
Yes.

Is Jesus a spirit having a Father?
Yes.

This is not about NATURE.

You haven't said anything about NATURE here.

Definitely,all of them have God's nature.

No! The Angels only SHARE IN GOD'S NATURE not HAVING GOD'S NATURE. The moment a being HAVING GOD'S NATURE means that being is FULLY GOD.

Man was created in the image and likeness of God.

But not HAVING GOD'S NATURE.

Therefore, Man too has God's nature but man is mortal infested with sin.
But God our Father is not mortal.

So you know this as still used the word "HAS"

Definitely, man doesn't have GOD'S NATURE.
But man only share in God's NATURE.

Emusan use your brain.

I do use it

Do you also use yours?

What you can't refute so far is that The Nature of God absolutely BELONGS TO GOD.

Any being who HAS GOD'S NATURE IS FULLY GOD.

Just refute this first

Janosky:
A divine being is a god or godlike.
That is the actual meaning.
Jesus is a god !
Screenshot evidence.

I love this.

So is the Father divine or not?

Janosky:
Does Emusan have his Father's nature?

Yes! I have and that makes me and my father to be human.

Angels have their Father's nature in heaven.

No! You're lying.

The Nature of God makes Him different from others.

One aspect of God's nature is "UNCREATED"

Are angels UNCREATED?

Oga, allow your brain to function.

Reason why you can't provide just single screenshot as evidence since

Janosky:
Your opinion rejected by Martin Luther, Charles Spurgeon & other Trinitarians.

Do Martin Luther, Charles Sturgeon and other Trinitarians have the Truth.

That's nice!

Janosky:
God is a title of the Supreme Spirit Being who created the world.

Man & all angels (Jesus Christ & Satan) have God's nature because God created them all, Ephesians 3:14-15.

Pls Oga, allow your brain to function,I dey beg you.

The challenge is to provide screenshot evidence that God and Angels have the same NATURE.

Why are you afraid of that?

delkuf:
so this guy has finally agreed that Jesus is angel Micheal is the doctrine of there organization after years he has arguing about.

For those he has misled he has admitted it. It is not a biblical doctrine but a doctrine of jw

That is it!
It's a doctrine that has no Biblical support.

Janosky:
Oga, why nau?
Pls use the screenshot evidence of the holy Scriptures (Acts 3:13. Acts 3:26. Acts 4:27 . Acts 4:30) to amend your viewpoints.
Jesus Christ admitted himself is a Servant, Matthew 12:15-18, he quoted from the prophet Isaiah.

But you can't provide screenshot evidence to support your claim that God and Angels have the same NATURE

MaxInDHouse:
You've not answered the question:

Did Jesus lied when he said John is Elijah?

YES or NO?

I've addressed your question.

You're the one who is turning a blind eyes to my questions.

Is Jesus Micheal a teaching or preaching?
Is Jesus God a preaching or teaching?

MaxInDHouse:
This is what you typed nah.
So can you be consistent with your own statement?

You read that clearly

And from the verse you quote it says "he is ‘E·liʹjah who is to come"

Does your organization consistent too?

Can you then answer my questions.

Is Jesus Micheal a teaching or preaching?
Is Jesus God a preaching or teaching?

MaxInDHouse:
"and if you are willing to accept it, he is ‘E·liʹjah who is to come. Matthew 11:14

Please what is Jesus trying to say here?

He has started cutting post

Well the screenshot below is enough for you.

You can argue with your own organization.

MaxInDHouse:
Did Jesus lied when he said John the baptist was Elijah?

Jesus never said John the Baptist WAS ELIJAH.

It's time you people know the difference between PREACHING and TEACHING.

If you're just knowing the difference between PREACHING and TEACHING now it's your problem.

Preaching is telling someone what God promised in the Bible word for word so you only show your audience where it's WRITTEN in God's word.

This never addressed my post but as usual you have to start dancing around like headless chicken.

Teaching is adding meaning to what is written which the audience can't find in the scriptures word for word but to be explained so that the scriptures could make sense with it's fulfilment.

So, is Jesus Micheal a teaching or preaching?
Is Jesus God a preaching or teaching?

There is nowhere in the scriptures where the name of the one crying in the wilderness is called "John" rather what the scriptures say is that Elijah will come to prepare the way so only followers of Jesus ACCEPTED that as TEACHING from Christ Jesus while all other Jews called it "LIES"

The messenger will come IN THE SPIRIT OF ELIJAH that's what the scripture says. Stop lying against God and His word.

So if i say "Jesus is Archangel Michael" it's the teaching of an organization that i agree

So the TEACHING doesn't have BIBLICAL SUPPORT RIGHT?

with i won't impose it on anyone who never see me as a teacher of God's word just as Jesus' teachings only appeals to his disciples who accepted him as their TEACHER!

So who is imposing Jesus is God on you?

That's the question.

MaxInDHouse:
That's the doctrine of an organization

It's good as you acknowledge that it's the doctrine of an organization and not BIBLICAL DOCTRINE.

so you are free to accept or decline not to be imposed on anyone

So, who is imposing "Jesus is God" on you?

i believe Jesus is Archangel Michael based on my understanding of the scriptures i only teach whoever wish to learn from me.

And that's how millions believe that Jesus is God Almighty based on their own understanding of the scripture.

You can't even teach anything base on your own UNDERSTANDING, you only believe what your gods in Warwick made you to believe.

Stop that lie.

Ken4Christ:
1. “Before Abraham was, I AM.”

“Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” (John 8:58)

Jesus claims pre-existence before Abraham and uses "I AM" (ἐγώ εἰμι)—a divine name from Exodus 3:14.
The Jews tried to stone Him immediately, understanding it as a claim to deity.

2. “I and the Father are one.” (John 10:30)

A clear claim of oneness with God the Father—not mere unity of purpose, but of nature.

Again, His listeners tried to stone Him for blasphemy.

3. “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” (Matthew 28:18)

No human can claim absolute cosmic authority.
Implies divine rule over the universe.

4. “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6)

Jesus claims to be the exclusive way to God, the embodiment of truth, and the source of life.

5. “Whoever has seen me has seen the Father.” (John 14:9)

Implies Jesus is the visible revelation of the invisible God.

6. “Your sins are forgiven.” (Mark 2:5–7, Luke 7:48)

The Jews rightly asked, “Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

Jesus forgave sins as God, not just as a prophet.

7. “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even if he dies.” (John 11:25)

Jesus claims power over death and to give eternal life—something no human can claim.

8. “All things have been handed over to me by my Father... No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son...” (Matthew 11:27)

He claims mutual exclusive knowledge with the Father—a divine relationship.

9. “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.” (Matthew 24:35)

Only the eternal Word of God is unchanging; Jesus places His own words on that level.

10. “I am the Alpha and the Omega... the First and the Last...” (Revelation 22:13)

These words are from Jesus and mirror God's eternal nature (Isaiah 44:6).

Only God exists from beginning to end.

Most importantly, Jesus spelled out His Equality with the Father with this statement.

"so that everyone will honor the Son, JUST AS they honor the Father. Anyone who does not honor the Son is certainly not honoring the Father who sent him." - John 5:23

gohf:
you said it is a fact of scripture, well tell us where God said Jesus is God or that the Christ is God? That's if you know what scripture is and what the Christ means.

You have it written plainly in John 1:1 "...and the Word was God"

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry, i hate arguing aimlessly when the scriptures has spoken! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

When he gets caught

You've joined this thread from page 1 till page 6, it's now you think you don't argue aimlessly

QuinQ:
😅 This is beyond RIDICULOUS! Brainwashing is really an amazing thing! Because someone translated Exodus 7:1 as "I have made you LIKE god over Pharoah" that equates to all the places all over the Bible Jesus is acknowledged as God the son of God. AMAZING!
Oga, Emmanuel - God Himself (God the son) came and dwelt amongst men for a bit. No one was like Him before that, and no one can ever be like Him ever again.
You see brainwashing eh, no be small thing!

The person who is trying to equate Moses with Jesus already claimed that Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD which means Jesus is the ONLY ONE directly created by God Himself.

Then ask yourself how can Jesus whom Jehovah Himself created directly can have equal or be like Moses?

Then you'll know where the confusion is coming from.

gohf:
I can take this as you do not want to answer or you don't have any answer to the questions I asked you.

The Holy Spirit is one, he doesn't reveal contradictory things as God is not an author of confusion. If you pretended to agree with me that has nothing to do with me but with you. If you don't want an argument or a debate, then you would answer the questions honestly and according to what is written.

It may be okay to you for people to believe and know a lie but a lie won't set people free and for me it isn't okay for people to teach and preach what contradicts the truth. I understand the deception played by the devil to let many believe a lie he cooked up, but I don't understand why people feel the need to make a Jesus equal to God or a god.

@underlined - you're wrong it's not people who tried to make Jesus equal to God or a god but it was The Word of God that revealed that Jesus is God and equal to God.

OLAADEGBU:
Which one out of the 23 bible doctrines preached in Deeper Life has been changed or added to?

The ones Kumuyi is complaining about now.

See the way he used style run away from 1 Corin

Janosky:
Every being created exists in God's image and likeness.

Animals too exist in God's image, is that correct?

Man,Jesus Christ & Satan has God's nature.

No! God's Nature will forever be His major unique thing.

The day any being has the capacity to POSSESS GOD'S NATURE automatically makes that Being to be God.

If your Dog has HUMAN NATURE today, it stop being Dog but Human.

This sis simple logic and fact.

It's NATURE that differentiates us in this world.

Now that you AGREED that Jesus has God's Nature, then it means Jesus is FULLY GOD.

God is the Father of all. Ephesians 4:6.
Oga, receive sense.

YES! because He created ALL.

We're talking about NATURE.

You can ask your ChatGPT or any AI in case you lack the knowledge about the subject matter, "meaning of Nature" to see if SATAN your father possessed God's NATURE of Yahweh(since you can elevate anything to God's position).

Let me help you because I know you'll never do that as you already know the outcome.

See the screenshot below!

That's why is very important to stick to what the scripture says and not just bringing out doctrines that is based on your own opinion.

Janosky:
God is a spirit.
Also Satan is a spirit.

Emusan, are the two of them equal spirits?

Please allow your brain to function.

God and Satan are not Equal as a Spirit Person just as Human and Dog not Equal as a Physical Being.

So, The Nature of God is different from the Nature of Satan.

Remember you have agreed that Jesus has God's Nature.

Does Jesus has Satan's Nature too?

Aramaic Bible in Plain English Matthew 4:10
Then Yeshua said to him, “Depart Satan, for
it is written: 'You shall worship THE LORD JEHOVAH your God and HIM ALONE shall you serve".


In plain English,Jesus said Worship is EXCLUSIVE To The LORD JEHOVAH.
Emusan doesn't understand the Bible in plain English.

Oga, continue deceiving yourself.

Reason why you couldn't answer my question


How do you HONOR JEHOVAH?

Very simple question.

Let's see if you OBEY JESUS

Janosky:
1 Corinthians 11:3
"Man is the head of the woman."

Giving honor doesn't translate to equality.

But no one claimed: "honor translates to EQUALITY".

The point is, you give THE SAME HONOR to both because they are EQUAL.

Oga,Believe Jesus Christ and believe Paul, his convert.

I do and I will always do.

Do you believe Jesus when He said you should HONOR HIM JUST AS you Honor the Father?

The key phrase here is "JUST AS"

The assignment I always give you people and never carry out is:

When you get to your hall, walk up to any elder and tell him "Sir, as from today I want you to respect me JUST AS YOU RESPECT your father"

Let's see how it will go.

"The Father (God Almighty) is greater than I (Jesus)."
The teaching of Jesus Christ, @John 14:28

1 Corinthians 11:3
"God is the Head of Christ Jesus".

This is about POSITION not NATURE.

Did you see Worship @ John 5:23?
No.

Capital NO!

Do you HONOR Jehovah by Worshipping Him?

But you dey put worship @ John 5:23.

Yes! In my explanation because worship is part of HONOR we give to God.

Do you want Watchtower reference about how worship is part of HONOR given to Jehovah?

You assume or think that Honor equates to worship.
No Sir.

I never assume or equate honor to worship.

Rather, I said worship is part of how we HONOR GOD.

Jesus demands EQUAL HONOR as given to The Father.

Which means, if you Honor The Father through Worship Jesus Christ said it's not complete without given Him the same Honor.

The question is, how do you Honor The Father?

Janosky:
Hierarchy started from the spiritual realm.
God says Jesus Christ is under God's authority in heaven and earth,
Likewise,Man and wife/women.

That Jesus has God's nature, doesn't grant equality to Jesus.
Likewise, woman having human nature, doesn't make her head of the man.

You just implicate yourself with this statement.

For Jesus to have God's NATURE means Jesus is FULLY GOD.

Your second statement should be "Likewise, man having human NATURE doesn't make him the head of woman." by this, it shows when the scripture says Man is the Head of the Woman it wasn't about NATURE but position. The same explanation about God greater than Jesus.

So it's about POSITION not NATURE.

By Nature both man and woman are equal.

For Emusan mind

No! By scripture and it's interpretation.

The Bible word for Honour is the same meaning @ John 5:23 & Ephesians 6:1.

Honor doesn't bestow equality to anyone.

This is a lame explanation.

For understanding, no one says "Honor bestowed EQUALITY to anybody"

But Jesus statement shows WHATEVER WAY YOU HONOR THE FATHER THE SAME WAY YOU SHOULD HONOR HIM.

How do you Honor the Father?

Jesus said you should Honor Him the same way.

If Jesus isn't equal to God, He can't demand THE SAME HONOR just from your citation of 1 Corinthians we should Honor our father and mother which means both our father and mother are equal despite the man is the head of the woman.

Can you comprehend this?

Oga, do not go beyond the things written in your Bible

I don't. Why do you go below of what is written in your own Bible?

If you have the mind, the challenge for you here is:
List how you have been honoring Jehovah.

This is very important.

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala it's OK!

Which it's never okay with you