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Truthseeker10:
Oga Emusan are you telling me that your teaching is not in agreement with the Trinity doctrine that Jesus is not Jehovah?

Tell me about the doctrine of Trinity first.

Oga your answer revolves around "a god" which has no place In the kjv.

Yes!

Oga you claimed "The God" appears in Greek. I asked you why there was no "the" attached to "God" in the kjv. You claimed that it might be due to grammatical accuracy. So what is the possible grammatical error if "The" is added to "God" in the kjv?

Already answered!

If "The God" appears in Greek, why is it not present in the kjv na?

Ask KJV translator.

Or you saw it in KJV that Emusan is part of the translators?

Truthseeker10:
Oga Emusan...don't tell me that your teaching of Jesus is Jehovah is against the Trinity doctrine. Is that true?

Tell me the Trinity doctrine.

Oga you claimed "The God" appears in Greek. I asked you why there was no "the" attached to "God" in the kjv. You claimed that it might be due to grammatical accuracy. So what is the possible grammatical error if "The" is added to "God" in the kjv?

Already answered!

Truthseeker10:
Oga Emusan...don't tell me that your teaching of Jesus is Jehovah is against the Trinity doctrine. Is that true?

What is Trinity?

Your answer was wrong in the sense that "a god" does not appear in the kjv. What is the possible grammatical error if "the" is added to the KJV?

Since "a god" and "the" did not appear, then it means the right rendition is "...and the Word was God" so any rendition outside that is fraudulent.

Gabrielshow24:
This is becoming a comedy show🤣🤣🤣. Out of King of Kings and Prince of princes which title exactly should be more befitting for Jehovah 😂!

This is where incoherency leads men to🤣. Jehovah is called prince of princes while his "spokesperson👀" is called King of Kings😂. This has surely made my day🤣, just can't stop laughing.

The most weapon against them is their own publications.

Reason why they can't be proud of their many centuries publications but will be claiming they also rooted in the books God inspired over 2000years ago.

If you ask them, those publications are they under the control of Jehovah , Jesus & God's Holy Spirit guidance from heaven or just philosophy of men?

They will enter mute mode

achorladey:
Wahala oooooo. In the words of MaxInDHouse...... confusion in enemies camp.

The scripture says Jesus is The King of kings
Watchtower claimed Jehovah God is the Prince of Princes.

Their online actors claiming Jesus is the Prince of Princes

Truthseeker10:
Oga don't you teach anymore that Jesus is Jehovah, or was that your teaching against the trinity doctrine?

The lying liar mouth keeps changing.

Your question was, "Is there a difference between Jehovah and Jesus according to the Trinity doctrine?"

So, where did Trinity talk about Jehovah and Jesus? Is my question.

So what is the possible grammatical error if "the" is added to the KJV?

Already answered!

Truthseeker10:
😂😂Oga Emusan are you now saying that Jesus is not Jehovah?

Where did Trinity talk about Jehovah and Jesus is my question?

Is "a god" In the kjv?

No!

Now answer my question, Who will you believe Watchtower or Gabrielshow24?

Janosky:
My preceding comment is a thorough response to your question.
@John 5:28-29 Jesus work is Archangel Michael's work in Daniel 12:2.

Emusan,If you get liver, just allow your brain to function nau.

The lying liar has changed mouth.

Where did you see archangel in my post?

Truthseeker10:
Is there a difference between Jehovah and Jesus according to the Trinity doctrine?

Trinity never talks about JEHOVAH and Jesus.

Provide where you see that from

What is the possible grammatical error if "the" is added to the KJV according to you?

The possible error is "...and the Word was a god"

So now, who will you believe Watchtower or Gabrielshow24?

achorladey:
Looooool to the bold. Indeed they are restricted and have a regimented thinking about the scriptures.

Jesus is The King of kings

While

Jehovah God is The Prince of Princes

I've answered the question @TenQ

With evidence from their own publication.

Truthseeker10:
Why haven't you answered the question below.

Who is the prince of princes in Daniel 8:25?

Mind you, Gabrielshow24 claims it is Jesus who he claims is the Almighty God.

But your own organization claimed It's Jehovah God.

Who will you believe Watchtower or Gabrielshow24?

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK jàre leave JWs and our troubles!

Did I hold Jws before?

See me see something oooo

Janosky:
Acts 3:19-23 is in your Bible.
Why pretend as if you don't know that?

Yes! It's there.

Was Moses also CREATED DIRECTLY BY JEHOVAH?

Let's see if you have boldness to answer this simple question

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said:

“I am the resurrection and the life. The one who exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life; and everyone who is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all" John 11:25-26

Do you believe that whenever God's Kingdom comes believers who are living will never die at all?

Answer my question FIRST!

Then your question will be answered.

How is that difficult for you to do?

MaxInDHouse:
Answer the one i asked you but you run away knowing fully well it will expose your arrogance!

The same reason you know by answering my own questions FIRST will expose your ignorance which made you looking for a soft ground to land

MaxInDHouse:
Of course i'm smarter than you a million times.

See the proof of your smartness below.

You never answered a single question at anytime i ask yet you come up with many questions expecting me to answer you as if i'm under some scrutiny and when i respectfully respond you start insulting me for attending to you.

If you're smart, then you should know, you can't just bounce into someone's post and started asking question(s) without FIRST ADDRESSING the post.

And simple logic says, you answer the question thrown to you FIRST before asking your own question.

That I haven't answered ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS AT ANYTIME proves more that you're a lying liar.

You can provide where I ever insulted.

Ọmọ it's tit for tat so you answer what i ask you then i will answer yours but trying to play smart by dodging the question then each of us will keep what he thinks he knows!

So you know it's tit for tat but you're the one who will first crying as being victimized

Like I said above, if I join a thread where I quote your post. If your post contains QUESTION(S) I do answer before I proceed to ask any question(s).

But you can't create rule here sorry this is not your Hall. If you're smart then you should know you can't ask people question and they reply you with another question. The evidence here shows that you're not smart.

achorladey:
I remember this same palaver when he always say others worship Satan only to say God bless you, when you asked which God is he talking about up till today I don't think I have seen his response

Just like many questions he'll never dare to answer

achorladey:
He loves using that tactics, once he knows his cover are blown open, you will see him type thank you for your time or I will abandon your thread for faithless people to enjoy then a day or two or weeks after pick one of his lies and try to spin it as truth again

You got it perfectly.

Here is how ChatGPT explained the phrase even when I used their NWT.


ChatGPT said: English explanation of the grammar and structure of the phrase:

"Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth."

1. "Let your will take place"
"Let" is a verb used to give permission or express a wish.

"Your will" means what you (God) want to happen.

"Take place" is another way of saying happen or occur.

So this part means: "Allow what you want to happen."

2. "as in heaven"
"As" means in the same way that.

"In heaven" tells us where this is already happening.

This part means: "the way it already happens in heaven."

3. "also on earth"
"Also" connects this to the previous part, meaning "in addition."

"On earth" tells us where we want the same thing to happen.

This part means: "let it happen here on earth too."

achorladey:
Blessed by OUR Jehovah or God

Àbí nah, you can't just pronounce blessings without where it's coming from.

achorladey:
Only to come back and start the merry go round in order to cover it up as distant past.

You can imagine that.

Thinking he is smart

MaxInDHouse:
Just as a musician often say.

You're blessed Sir.

Thanks for your time!

You're now a musician, that's nice.

Blessed by who?

Never bother about my time

achorladey:
So I missed the below...


I have answered but you are not patient.



Against what Jesus himself said let your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

MaxInDHouse can lie for the world. See broad day manipulations of the scriptures

Max, 2025



Chai

When too much of manipulations are in place, that is the evidence.

Jesus' statement shows God's Will already taken place in heaven but the manipulator has to shift it to the future for agenda that doesn't add up

He was shocked to the marrow when I first open his eyes to that fact, that was the reason he kept moving in circles till he finally used style ran away.

MaxInDHouse:
First of all do you agree with the Bible that when God's Kingdom comes living believers that time won't taste death at all?

Answer this question YES or NO then i will answer your questions!

This shouldn't be FIRST OF ALL. The first of all are those unanswered questions of mine in which you stylishly boycotted

I've been asking my own question long before JaNosense brought this back and you're the one who quoted me.

So answer my questions or continue in your hiding place.

Or did I beg you for anything?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?”
‭John 11:25-26 NIV‬

When God's government is established on planet earth {Matthew 6:10} God's will will take place so that instead of dying nobody will die again the dead will be raised from their graves but believers who are alive at that time will never die at all instead of growing old they will return to youthful vigor. Job 33:25

That's what Jesus is saying!

This has nothing to do with our initial discussions which you use style to run away from.

You claimed Jesus disciples won't die again when Jesus comes and began to rule.

The simple questions you couldn't answer since are:

1. Has Jesus come?
2. Has Jesus started ruling?
3. Why are JWs (according to you the only Jesus true followers) still dying after Jesus had come and began to rule?

Just provide your answers to these questions and stop preambulating by dodging questions.

Janosky:
Jesus said the believers will never die.
You see am for your Bible?

Yes very well stated in my Bible.

The question is, when will this happen?

Jesus made it known that it'll happen at RESURRECTION.

That is why Jesus said "...Anyone who believes in me will live, even after dying." - John 11:25

Are you saying RESURRECTION had happened?

You jumped into this yet couldn't answer my question.

Why are JWs still dying after Jesus had come and began to rule? Since according to your lying fellow no disciples of Jesus will ever die again when Jesus comes and began to rule.

Or are you saying Jesus had not come and never started ruling?

Why is Emusan WAILING?

Answer my question first then let's see who is wailing.

tunnyl:
2. Music Keeps You Far from Allah

Allah encourages us to remember Him frequently—ponder on His words, recite Quran, make dhikr. But let’s be real: music is very seductive to the ears. Instead of reciting Subhanallah after solat, your brain tells you: "You’ve listened to Quran for two minutes, now let’s balance it with Burna Boy for two hours."
And just like that, music occupies your mind while pushing remembrance of Allah further down the priority list.

If this number 2 is true.

Why then did Allah give the book of Psalms which means singing & Praising with different musical instruments to David?

gohf:
So the criteria according to you that made God to be God are
1. The word was God
2. God used the word to create all things
3. Jesus having the nature of God
4. Honor the son as you honor the Father

Here is your first lie, none of this is what makes God God.

So the NATURE OF GOD DOESN'T MAKE GOD TO BE GOD, then what make God to be God?

The only truth you wrote is that Jesus never said He is God.

Good which means I can say the truth.

You said I should highlight your lies

John 1:1 Kai theos en ho logos
theos there is not object, but is now the subject.

In John 1:1 John is revealing the source of the word, the logos which is revelation. So in the beginning was the revelation and that revelation was with God... And then John us was the revelation was about. God was the revelation. God was what the word was about. And that's why I say the word was God's word about God. Was being used there is an imperfect verb meaning you can't change it to mean God is the word.

Verse 2 speaks about Jesus being with God in the beginning.

So the revelation was with God and Jesus was with God in the beginning and through Jesus all that was made was made. Which clearly means Jesus was the the means God used to create.

You lie because you fail to realize that Jesus is the foundation of the world, the very being God used to hold the world together like the foundation that holds a house.

@color-red: Re-read what you wrote again and again to see it doesn't make any sense.

@color-blue: It's good as you acknowledge the usage of the imperfect verb "WAS" as being used.

The intent of the author is to convey the NATURE of the WORD. So, God is the Word will be wrong but THE WORD WAS GOD which is about NATURE.

Any interpretation other than this is fraudulent.

Also, I like how you also acknowledge that Jesus was the foundation of the CREATION which means He wasn't CREATED.

Which means Jesus is God because Only God is UNCREATED.

Phil. 2.6 who being in God's form did not consider equality with God something to be desired or grasped but instead, verse 7, took himself as a servant. You can lie or believe a misinterpretion and lie against a verse but it doesn't change that Jesus was and is humble and didn't consider himself to be God nor equal to God.

One thing very astonish about you people when it comes to this verse is lack of simple comprehension or basic English.

This verse is the one that boldly says JESUS IS EQUAL TO GOD but IT DIDN'T CONSIDER THIS EQUALITY SOMETHING TO BE TAKEN BY FORCE because He already HAS IT then HUMBLED HIMSELF.

Below is how @grok explained it.

The challenge for you is to look for a good English teacher who is neither a Christian nor familiar with Bible, give the person this verse to explain what it means to you. Then come and gist me.

Also, the fact that this verse equivocally says Jesus HAVING "THE FORM(NATURE) OF GOD" shows Jesus is God which the author later affirmed.

John 5:23 is not the beginning of a sentence
John.5.22-23 And the Father leaves all judgment to his Son, so that everyone will honor the Son, JUST AS they honor the Father. But if you refuse to honor the Son, then you are certainly not honoring the Father who sent him.

Does this mean that the son is equal to the Father, you would have to be a deliberate and wicked liar to say it does. When it clearly shows that the honor of being the judge is given to the son, that is God has granted that honor to Jesus by making it that the honor that would come to the judge would go to the Jesus whom he has appointed as the judge. So just as we would have honor God as judge, we should honor the son as judge appointed by God.

It doesn't say honor Jesus as God. One of the duties of an anointed king, the Messiah is to judge. That's why in revelation Jesus is honored and praised for redeeming us and declaring God's judgement upon the world.

Read the two @color-red side by side to how logical it sounds.

If The Son isn't EQUAL TO THE FATHER he can't say people should HONOR HIM JUST AS THEY HONOR THE FATHER.

The assignment for you here, walk to any person you know is older than you and respect your dad/mum in your area and tell the person "Sir/Ma, I want you to be respecting me JUST AS you do respect my dad/mum"

Let's see how the person will react.

Or better still, let any guy you're older than ask you to be respecting him JUST AS you do respect his mum/dad, if you will not beat hell out of the person.

gohf:
So the criteria according to you that made God to be God are
1. The word was God
2. God used the word to create all things
3. Jesus having the nature of God
4. Honor the son as you honor the Father

Here is your first lie, none of this is what makes God God.

So the NATURE OF GOD DOESN'T MAKE GOD TO BE GOD, then what make God to be God?

The only truth you wrote is that Jesus never said He is God.

Good which means I can say the truth.

You said I should highlight your lies

John 1:1 Kai theos en ho logos
theos there is not object, but is now the subject.

In John 1:1 John is revealing the source of the word, the logos which is revelation. So in the beginning was the revelation and that revelation was with God... And then John us was the revelation was about. God was the revelation. God was what the word was about. And that's why I say the word was God's word about God. Was being used there is an imperfect verb meaning you can't change it to mean God is the word.

Verse 2 speaks about Jesus being with God in the beginning.

So the revelation was with God and Jesus was with God in the beginning and through Jesus all that was made was made. Which clearly means Jesus was the the means God used to create.

You lie because you fail to realize that Jesus is the foundation of the world, the very being God used to hold the world together like the foundation that holds a house.

@color-red: Re-read what you wrote again and again to see it doesn't make any sense.

@color-blue: It's good as you acknowledge the usage of the imperfect verb "WAS" as being used.

The intent of the author is to convey the NATURE of the WORD. So, God is the Word will be wrong but THE WORD WAS GOD which is about NATURE.

Any interpretation other than this is fraudulent.

Also, I like how you also acknowledge that Jesus was the foundation of the CREATION which means He wasn't CREATED.

Which means Jesus is God because Only God is UNCREATED.

Phil. 2.6 who being in God's form did not consider equality with God something to be desired or grasped but instead, verse 7, took himself as a servant. You can lie or believe a misinterpretion and lie against a verse but it doesn't change that Jesus was and is humble and didn't consider himself to be God nor equal to God.

One thing very astonish about you people when it comes to this verse is lack of simple comprehension or basic English.

This verse is the one that boldly says JESUS IS EQUAL TO GOD but IT DIDN'T CONSIDER THIS EQUALITY SOMETHING TO BE TAKEN BY FORCE because He already HAS IT then HUMBLED HIMSELF.

Below is how @grok explained it.

The challenge for you is to look for a good English teacher who is neither a Christian nor familiar with Bible, give the person this verse to explain what it means to you. Then come and gist me.

Also, the fact that this verse equivocally says Jesus HAVING "THE FORM(NATURE) OF GOD" shows Jesus is God which the author later affirmed.

John 5:23 is not the beginning of a sentence
John.5.22-23 And the Father leaves all judgment to his Son, so that everyone will honor the Son, JUST AS they honor the Father. But if you refuse to honor the Son, then you are certainly not honoring the Father who sent him.

Does this mean that the son is equal to the Father, you would have to be a deliberate and wicked liar to say it does. When it clearly shows that the honor of being the judge is given to the son, that is God has granted that honor to Jesus by making it that the honor that would come to the judge would go to the Jesus whom he has appointed as the judge. So just as we would have honor God as judge, we should honor the son as judge appointed by God.

It doesn't say honor Jesus as God. One of the duties of an anointed king, the Messiah is to judge. That's why in revelation Jesus is honored and praised for redeeming us and declaring God's judgement upon the world.

Read the two @color-red side by side to see how illogical it sounds.

If The Son isn't EQUAL TO THE FATHER he can't say people should HONOR HIM JUST AS THEY HONOR THE FATHER.

The assignment for you here, walk to any person you know is older than you and respect your dad/mum in your area and tell the person "Sir/Ma, I want you to be respecting me JUST AS you do respect my dad/mum"

Let's see how the person will react.

Or better still, let any guy you're older than ask you to be respecting him JUST AS you do respect his mum/dad, if you will not beat hell out of the person.

Truthseeker10:
What has Jesus father commanded in John 10:18?

He couldn't properly analyze the post that's nice.

[s]What is the possible grammatical error in the kjv if "the" is added to John 1:1 according to you?[/s]

No room for excuse.

gohf:
expect Jesus stopped being called the word of God

I guess you meant "EXCEPT" here!

What do you mean by this statement?

tell us where he said he is God and is equal to God.

Jesus never said in "He is God" but all the criteria that made God to be God was used for Jesus.

For example!

John 1:1 says "The Word was God"
John 1:3 says "Without The Word NOTHING was Created that have been CREATED" Which means Jesus isn't part of creation.
Phil 2:6 made it clear that "Jesus EXISTS IN THE NATURE OF GOD and He is EQUAL TO GOD"
LASTLY, Jesus Himself said in John 5:23 "so that everyone will honor the Son, JUST AS they honor the Father. Anyone who does not honor the Son is certainly not honoring the Father who sent him."

Or stop deceiving yourself and lying against God's word

You can highlight the lies in my post.

gohf:
wait you don't know what scripture is and who God is?

I quoted scripture or is the scripture wrong when it says "...and The Word was God?"