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geoworldedu:
I don't agree with what is not factual.

To you, what do you consider as FACTUAL?

Janosky:

Screenshot Evidences from your Trinitarian mentors translating the Bible.
Is the Greek word "OTHER" in any Greek manuscript @ Luke 13:2?
Emusan MUMU LYING miscreant,go and REMOVE "OTHER" @ Luke 13:2
Or
Continue WAILING your stupidity on this forum.

I'm expecting you to provide the screenshot of the Greek of Phil 5, Col 1:16-17 where NWT added the word "OTHER" to proof me wrong but the oponu JaNosense is talking about Luke

Which means, NWT actually added what is not in the Greek scriptures into its translation to continue to brainwashed you.

JaNosense has ran away from Angel of Jehovah

Janosky:
Hebrew 1:2 "God created the UNIVERSE through His Son."

Is this written in your Bible @ Hebrew 1:2?
Yes.
Emusan LYING miscreant.

Yes and Boldly written.

So, Jesus is the Creator and SUSTAINER OF the UNIVERSE.

Show me where Micheal your god is ever said to be the Creator.

Emusan LYING miscreant doesn't not believe the Bible, Hebrew 1:2.
Awon faithless miscreant.
Tueh !!

If you believe in the Bible and your Translation.

Why does NWT never use the phrase/expression "The Angel of Jehovah or an Angel of Jehovah?"

Emusan LYING miscreant, knock your delusion out of your empty skull.
1 Corinthians 11:3 "God is SUPREME over Christ."
To "first born of every creature" meaning that Jesus is a creature."

Now, the oponu is taking us back to the screenshot he ran away from.

To be the FIRST BORN of every creature means "To be SUPREME OVER CREATURE"

Since you agreed that only God is supreme, then that verse confirmed that Jesus is God Almighty.

You can hit your empty skull on the wall but you must accept God's word as God instructed people to pen it down.

Is the first born of every child, a child?
Yes.
Therefore, Jesus the "first born of every creature" is ALWAYS a creature.
E go pain am .

That is why your brain is dull.

The term FIRST BORN was used several times in the scripture and most places it was used it's about POSITION.

In fact, Paul who used that very phrase boldly says the reason why he used it in that same Col 1

Here it is from your perverted NWT.

"and he is the head of the body, the congregation.+ He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead,+ so that he might become the one who is first in all things" - Col 1:18 NWT

Let that color-red part sink well into your empty skull.

Gabrielshow24:
You just have to press their necks in order for them to say the truth!!! 😂😂😂

For the first time, he agreed that Jesus created the universe 👀 which implies that Jesus transcends time and space🤔 and he was the Creator!!!

Why then do they teach that God is non transcendental 🤕?

It seems to me that what they have is mental sickness!!!

That is why they're so confused.

Only God transcends time and space.

Now, if you ask them, you agreed that Jehovah created the UNIVERSE THROUGH JESUS which includes HEAVENS, and Jesus was a creature.

We know that all creatures need SPACE TO OCCUPY, so where was Jesus live after Jehovah created him directly before using him to create ALL OTHER THINGS?

You'll see them going in circles.

Note: the word OTHER never appears in any Greek word where Jesus was described as The Creator but it was fraudulently inserted by Watchtower to keep deluding their followers.

Janosky:
Jesus Christ himself is a creature, "first born of every creature", says your popular Bible.

REMOVE it from your Bible,or remain a faithless miscreant.

JaNosense has ran away from The Angel of Jehovah

You said God created the UNIVERSE through His Son.

But Jesus is the Creator of the UNIVERSE including HEAVENS.

To be FIRST BORN of every creature means to be SUPREME OVER CREATURE!

How many times will this be knocked into your empty skull?

Janosky:
Your fellow Trinitarians have agreed that Jesus Christ is the angel of Jehovah God his Father.

Please Continue WAILING.

Congrats.
😂😂😂

As predicted

The Angel of Jehovah according to those Trinitarians is UNCREATED ANGEL, who is God Himself.

Congratulations, at least you provided the screenshot.

Besides, you haven't answered my question JaNosense

Now, why the expression "The Angel of Jehovah or an Angel of Jehovah" never appear in your perverted NWT but throughout the perverted NWT translation it is always "Jehovah's angel" which shows there's no distinction between of the two?

Janosky:
Hebrew 1:2
"God made the universe THROUGH his Son"

John 12:49-50, Jesus Christ obeyed.
Faithless miscreant.

😂😂😂

Now you agreed that Jesus created Michael and you!

That's wonderful!

Janosky:
Emusan dunce & low comprehension skills inseparable for life.

Say the great JaNosense.

This expression, "The Angel of Jehovah" strictly reserved for Jesus Christ archangel Michael.

No where does the phrase "The Angel of Jehovah" ever used in the scripture not even in your perverted NWT.

Definitely, you're the one who lack comprehension here.

But,an angel of Jehovah could be Gabriel or any other angel.
Genesis 16:7,Screenshot Evidences from their fellow Trinitarians.

You can even see from your screenshot that the Angel is "UNCREATED ANGEL" I know you don't agree with those screenshot but just deluding yourself about nonsense you carry in your empty skull.

Now, why the expression "The Angel of Jehovah or an Angel of Jehovah" never appear in your perverted NWT but throughout the perverted NWT translation it is always "Jehovah's angel" which shows there's no distinction between the two?

I know the ignoramus deluded JaNosense will pretend as if he didn't see this question.

achorladey:
Proper werey peddling brains be that guy

See the screenshot that follows and see how their errand Jesus is equally Jehovah

The funny thing is, Watchtower wanted to prove a point because many scholars already associate "The Angel of the Lord" to Jehovah, so Watchtower decided not to use the phrase The Angel of the Lord or An Angel of the Lord" throughout their translation.

Instead, what Watchtower uses is "Jehovah's angel" both in the Old Testament and the New Testament

Now, ask them, is there any different between The Angel of the Lord, an Angel of the Lord & Jehovah's angel?

Janosky:
Emusan LYING miscreant, the O.P. of this thread and Genesis 16:7 said "THE ANGEL Of The LORD"

"The Angel of the LORD" is different from "an angel of the LORD" @ Matthew 1:20.

Likewise "the Word" @ John 1:1 is different from "your word" @ John 17:17.

Emusan LYING miscreant deceiving himself.
Gabriel is an angel of the LORD who appeared to Mary , Zechariah & Joseph.




Emusan LYING miscreant proven dunce.

Kai see this ignoramus....

The Angel of the Lord is different from An Angel of the Lord....which means The Angel of the Lord is God Himself.

The Angel of the Lord still in action while Jesus was still in the womb Matt 1:20

Watchtower has totally formated your brain cells.

O ma se oooo JaNosense

Janosky:
You brought evidence that Jesus is first born, meaning created, your A.I evidence linked to Colossians 1:15-16.

That is why I do say, your skull is so empty.

You saw in the screenshot, the phrase has "TWO MEANINGS." after explanation, the AI brought out the actual meaning which means Jesus being the FIRST BORN isn't about first CREATED but being "SUPREME OVER CREATURE"

The screenshot is still there oponu JaNosense!

If you get liver, provide Bible evidence, chapter & verse of your MUMU claim.
LYING miscreant deceiving himself.[/b].

Col 1:16-18 shows Jesus is the CREATOR which means Jesus created Michael and you.

I know that do pain you but you must hear the truth.

Janosky:
Which verse and chapter in Emusan's copy of the Bible?
None!

Emusan over dunce

Verses are plenty which have been quoted several times but your empty skull can't comprehend them just as you couldn't comprehend ordinary screenshot from AI

JaNosense for a reason!

MaxInDHouse:
Bah wahala!

Who said "A komi wahala" fah?

MaxInDHouse:
You won't stop amusing me, if everyone on Nairaland wants to verify what you said who do you think always quote the other between you and i?
When you behave maturely you will be treated respectfully not that you just feel someone's beliefs are wrong therefore you should start interrogating him or her as if such a person has committed a crime for having FAITH in whatever he or she believes.

Well i'm still here if you're done with your annoyance because i feel it's time to discuss maturely with you as you showed some seriousness but if you're still being provoked maybe we can leave it till another convenient time.

More tears for attention!

When you're okay, let me know!

MaxInDHouse:
Oh!
You don provoke?
Sorry o!

Attention seeker!

Old man behaving like a toddler

MaxInDHouse:
If you're ready for intelligent questions it's not this type of childish play because i will continue to joke with you.

I was on my own when you quoted my post this morning because you just want my attention by fire by force or claim your lie of "JOKING WITH YOU"

At least you admitted that you're the one "joking with you" which means you're the one behaving like a toddler.

Now, you're crying that someone is playing childishly when in reality you're the one who behaving like a toddler.

"If I'm ready for intelligent question..." meaning you haven't asked me any intelligent question before you made this statement "If you ask him intelligent question he will not respond but with his attitude he wants you to answer him as if you are into some kind of investigation."

Did I surprise? Absolutely not.

First of all is there any verse that's specific regarding Jesus being God or creator?

If your brain is working well, you'll know we already dealt with this question.

Where we are now, is for you to answer the simple question I've been asking you since: "Did you agree that without Jesus NOTHING was CREATED?"

There's no question you have thrown at me that I've not answered but this just one question is what is given you headaches.

So, if you know you can't answer just shut your mouth.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you believe that without Michael the Archangel nothing was created?

No! I don't believe because Micheal is a creature which you also agreed with.

Is this your intelligent question you have been asking and I can't answer it?

Do you agree that without Jesus NOTHING was CREATED?

MaxInDHouse:
Why is Christ the angel of the Lord?~OP

Christ is not the Angel of the Lord!

Do you believe that without Jesus NOTHING was CREATED?

MaxInDHouse:
Only one angel is God's spokesman in heaven: Archangel Michael the word of God!

If you ask him intelligent question he will not respond but with his attitude he wants you to answer him as if you are into some kind of investigation.
That's why i keep teasing him to see what else he can do after all he's not here to learn but argue.

Despite the lie in this post

He's still looking for engagement by fire by force.

Continue to be restless!

achorladey:
In their publication titled imitate their faith...

Their lies and manipulations filled brains accepted the no get sense of Jesus served as the Word in their religious publications when the Bible they carry says Jesus is the Word not serving as the Word

Then the same Angel of the Lord they say and hammering is Jesus is equally Jehovah in their religious publications but they don't want to be dogmatic about it. You begin to wonder what is the basis of their fighting Jesus is angel of the lord

Well said!

Jesus has never SERVED as the word but He is THE WORD!

Gabrielshow24:
This is fallacious!!!
He was an "angel" because he was on an errand from his Father!!!

Not that he was part of a set of beings also coincidentally called "angels"👀

Your false equivocation is just too much!!!
If you so claim he was an angel while not tell us whether he was a cherub!
Or Perhaps a seraph!!!

Christ is not even the Angel of the Lord.

Even though some have tried to ascribe that to Him when considering how Yahweh works in the Old Testament in which it was term Theophany.

But in Matt 1:20 while Mary conceived Jesus it was recorded that the same ANGEL OF THE LORD appeared to Joseph.

If you ask the champion of this Angel of the Lord as Jesus, why was Jesus in the womb and the Angel of the Lord also in action?

They'll go silent because to them, Jesus is a complete human which means when Jesus was human nothing DIVINE in him.

Or was Matthew wrong to have mentioned Angel of the Lord while Jesus was still in the womb?

This even favoured the people who argue in support of Jesus being human and divine on earth but against anyone who believes Jesus was never Divine one earth.

They want to eat their cake and also have it.

Janosky:
Emusan LYING miscreant dubious attempt to divert attention.
His Trinity GIBBERISH straight to the dustbin wotowoto.

Can you imagine this JaNosense...

You claimed the screenshot supported your point but it's evident that you're the one shutting down your brain cells to cherry pick that simple sentences.

Reason why I do call you JaNosense.

The screenshot says Jesus is the Creator and SUSTAINER OF ALL THINGS, true or false?

No wonder those your gods in Warwick always using your head to do Tic-toe-tar

Janosky:

Emusan LYING miscreant, you know that Jesus is NOT Supreme Being nau.

Did Jesus teach Emusan that Jesus supreme to God his Father at John 14:28 ?
Did Paul converted by Jesus, teach Emusan LYING miscreant that Jesus is supreme @1 Corinthians 11:3 & Hebrew 6:13?

Emusan LYING miscreant, denying the holy scriptures please repent from your folly.

JaNosense is so pained that he has to quote my post thrice with evidence of severe pain.

Now, it's whether Jesus teach me anything not about the screenshot again

Your evidence is based on the screenshot but you want to change mouth, definitely your empty skull can't grab what you're using as evidence

Oponu JaNosense

Janosky:
That creature is ALWAYS Jesus.

He can never be Jesus Christ because Jesus created ALL THINGS! He created both Michael and you.

Nah you Emusan bring evidence that Jesus is the first born meaning that Jesus is a creature.

Olofo...you still couldn't grab the meaning of that screenshot in since all this while.

O ma se oooo

Emusan evidence:
"Jesus is the first born in the sense of being the first to be born or created.
He is the beginning of all creation. Everything was created through him".


According to Emusan evidence: Born or created, is a creature. Jesus is NOT the Creator.

That you are JaNosense is for a reason.

Read that screenshot again and see how it says Jesus is the SUPREME BEING OVER CREATURE.

Well, I don't expect you to understand that.

The screenshot says boldly "Jesus is the Creator and sustainer of all things" but as usual JaNosense will switch off his empty skull when getting to that part.

Or can a creature be both CREATOR & SUSTAINER of ALL THINGS?

They say El-Rufai decamping will cause huge blow to the opposition by dividing the opposition votes.

Is it opposition that are decamping with El-Rufai to SDP or the same APC people?

jaephoenix:
Actually many of those points came from Google. So talk another rubbish

And you still want me to post them here!

Is that not waste of time?

alizma:
He failed during ministerial screening.

And the report is from when to when?

Okoroawusa:
Obidients have fallen in love with Nasir El-Rufai...

2027 will be very sweet

Can you see this hypocrite!

I thought you people say, El-Rufai is to divide opposition votes.

Are those leaving APC in Exodus also part of opposition?

Rilwayne001:
Nlfpmod, the world needs to see this evil ElRufai family for who they are.

Please move to FP

Now you know El-Rufai's are evil but when they rally round for Tinubu you didn't see them as evil.

People have been condemning El-Rufai for the killing in Southern Kaduna, what do you call those people then?

Or have you ever called El-Rufai's evil before?

Jaylord12:
Weldone.....If it easy as u said even a beggar will be a president in Nigeria......u need an excellent planing oga

Planning on what?

Tjra:
You think the North is a tribe?

Whether they are tribe or not, the fact is the North thrown their majority support for him in 2023.

If they can reject him in 2027, Tinubu himself knows he is a gonna

Jaylord12:
Get the point to unseat president Tinubu they most have an excellent plan......

Nothing like plan, if the majority are against him there's nothing Tinubu can do.

All what it takes is, key Northerners should stop supporting him then he is a gonna.