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CAPTIVATOR:
The point is , he said " I was Dead"

Meaning he died. Which doesn't stop God from being wise while he was dead

Yes! He DIED, do you have problem with that?

And your point on the second part is?

"He emptied himself "

Died like a normal human. Suppose he wasn't ressurected, would have return to Dust

So, the SPIRIT BEING CALLED MICHAEL IN HEAVEN WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT SPIRIT BEING?

Thus the point stands. Christ being dead doesn't stop God from having knowledge, which he even used to ressurect the dead Jesus. Learn to think

That is to tell you that Jesus is Kore than just FLESH.

Jesus is the WISDOM OF YOUR GOD!

WITHOUT HIM YOUR GOD HAS NO WISDOM.

TemmyT002:
If Jesus is God, Jesus will not be praying to God na
Count how many times Jesus prayer in the Bible

You couldn't address any of my point.

But you agreed Jesus has ALL THE CHARACTERISTICS OF JEHOVAH GOD.

So, when will you take up the challenge I posed earlier?

TemmyT002:
The word 'God' is a title, like Lord, Chief, President, etc.
Jesus is a God. Even we are gods

Jesus created ALL THINGS

Do you create ANYTHING?

But Jesus is not Jehovah God.
He is the son of God who has all the characteristics of his father.

If you have ALL THE CHARACTERISTICS OF SOMEONE YOU ARE EQUALLY THE SAME AS THAT PERSON.

If you are in doubt, meet any elderly man in your area and tell him that sir, since I know you, I have noticed that you have ALL THE CHARACTERISTICS OF A GOAT

Come here and share your experience with us.

God cannot come down to die for the same people He created.

But it will be unjust to God to send another person to die for people He created.

Even in human court, no judge will ever try that. How come do you think the same God who always condemned injustice of man will do worst than man?.

CAPTIVATOR:
Mumu
" I was dead " - Jesus Christ, Rev 1:18

Who is the I ?

Jesus Christ!

Which means the same PERSON WHO DIED ON EARTH IS THE SAME TALKING IN HEAVEN.

Waooo I love that.

But the part you don't like in that verse 18 is this "I am THE LIVING ONE" God Almighty has been known for ages as only being who regards to be LIVING ONES.

But here Jesus reaffirm His ALMIGHTY statues.

Jesus was Dead, but God was still wise. Don't be stupid

The BODY DIED.

Spirit don't DIED.

YOU AGREE THAT JESUS WAS A SPIRIT BEING BEFORE COMING TO EARTH.

OPONU.....

CAPTIVATOR:
He was a servant before becoming Human, I hope you know ? And also after becoming human.

Isaiah 42:1 .

Jesus was never God Almighty at any point in history. There was always someone greater.

Jesus the Creator of you and EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE.

So, He is the Almighty God.

That's your problem, The Father didn't reveal the day and time to the Son is the TRUTH. Coming from Jesus himself. ( Matt 24:36) . He doesn't know

Lol.....after realized the gravity of that statement.

No! It's your problem because if the Father and Son are actually ONE IN INTENT then it means THERE'S NOTHING THE FATHER CAN HIDE FROM THE SON.

But what do you expect from a lying liar who claimed BIBLE CONTAINS CONTRADICTION and still using the other side of his empty brain to try to use the same contradicted book to proof nonsense.

KosiGee:
Oga this is not true. Did you believe that the man was beheaded and he bent and picked up his head and walked some kilometres before he slumped??

How was he beheaded? Was he standing up unrestrained? Was he not bound? Was he just standing still and the executioner swung the sword or axe and his head fell off and dropped?

Let’s assume he was courageously standing still while this happened, his head fell off, either rolled to some distance or dropped beside him!! Wow..😮 he knew exactly where it fell, went there or bent down, picked it up, continued on his evangelical mission before he fell!

Chai.

Since you decided to go into heavy assumption, then I'm happy to tell you that MIRACLES are never about assumptions.

Reason why many people won't believe, a man constructed wooden ships that houses all species of living things in the most heavy pound of wave that may ever be recorded on ocean. because the assumption are how can wooden ship stand against such heavy wave? Where was Lions kept? e.t.c

So, your assumptions are bases on human limited knowledge meanwhile miracle are ALWAYS BEYONG human limited knowledge.

The confusion started when you want MIRACLE to be explained using human limited knowledge.

Then how is it going to be a miracle?

Godwin4444:
oga y are u this dull?

Now, started their usual defense mechanism.

Are u in primary school?
Buhari was wise that he borrowed money to pay subsidy till last year June
He used oil wells n our collective natural resources to borrow money which he mismanaged

You keep changing mouth.

You wanted to pin this on the past leaders excluding Buhari as you mentioned people like TY Danjuma, Abacha, Obj, e.t.c

So, why dancing around?
Stay in one place to make your point.

You secondary school master.

Tinubu was forced to remove subsidy n float d naira with little or nowhere to borrow from n u expect things not to skyrocket

See another out of point statement.

Who told you that no one is ready to borrow Tinubu money?

How many has Tinubu borrowed within one year in office?

You're talking as if the same Tinubu didn't borrow kobo since he came on board.

I believe u heard what Messiah obi said in his interview, he said he will borrow more.

If you just heard that from Obi it means you didn't follow his campaign statement.

Obi has never against BORROWING and no one in the world will go against BORROWING.

The point you're deviating from is how Tinubu economy policies have pulled more people into poverty.

Which is not what he campaign with.

So what does that mean? We will keep borrowing to make d naira n economy stable till we have nowhere to borrow from again n everything explodes like what we have in Zimbabwe, Libya n South Sudan

The issue isn't about BORROWING my friend stop dancing around.

Many great leaders did extral ordinary things that is why people regards them as HERO!

So, if some leaders took up the mantle and their people feel the impact in positive way, it shows they know how to handle the situation.

Stop making excuses for failure.

I wish I could see u people, sit u down n explain things to u

Many of u don't even know what u argue about

I don't need that, the person in best position to be sat down and explain things to now is Baba Tinubu. Use your energy to find a day of round table talk with him.

If you sit me down, I can't apply your explanations to Nigeria problems.

Do u think obi is stupid to say he will borrow more?
Everything is empty n all those political class knows about it but u are here forming economic policies u know nothing about

No one has talk about Obi here, you're the one who brought him into this, why?

because your conscience is judging you.

Again, this issue never about BORROWING.

So after payment of subsidy stopped n naira got floated u expect prices to come down?

So he didn't know this when he made that pronouncement in Ogun state that he will bring the fuel pric0e down.

Show me where Tinubu ever make a statement about before or during campaign that, things will get worst if he can be given the opportunity to perform his economy policies before things start going in the right direction.

Since you brought Obi, I have a video of Obi during PDP congress with PDP BOT on sit and he told them frankly that NOTHING TO SHARE AGAIN IN THE COUNTRY, that if PDP thinks they need someone that will take power and begin to share money. They should forget it, there's nothing left in the country to share again. In fact in that video Obi talked about BORROWING and in his statement "NOTHING WRONG IN BORROWING" but what you uses the money you borrowed for is the key.

So, all the money Baba Tinubu has borrowed, what have they been used for?

I wish obi was d president n he uses that method of borrowing, I bet u people will cry more

Your wishes are irrelevant at this moment.

If you're actually serious about your wish, if Obi decided to run in 2027, take it up by campaign rigorously for him. At least you have seen best of the person you supported, so if you're actually for good governance and jot just for blind support, your perception should change coming next election.

Godwin4444:
u keep shouting Argentina

My simple question to u

Did Argentina experience people like
Abacha
T.y danjuma
Babangida
Obasanjo
N co?

There's no nation in earth that has once had a bad ruler.

So, cut that crab and face reality.

Many so called hero of their nations today did what many of their past leader failed to do.

For instance, if elder Tinubu has reduced inflation from 20 something percent he met it to less than 20% many of his critique would have kept silent and won many to his side.

Or even maintain it around that percentage the same could have happened but taken INFLATION rate to over 40% within 1 years shows how bad are his economy policies.

So, a good leader knows what to do balance economy or even improve it, we have example around the world.

So, saying some pasts people destroyed the country more than two decades ago isn't a good reason just excuses for steong failure.

Godwin4444:
so we started having leaders in 2023?

So d president should b d fall guy for many years of mismanagement?

Where were u during d regime of abacha n co?

What Nigeria went through did those country go through them?

It's annoying when u people talk as if Nigeria started in 2023

Another baseless excuse for failed leaders.

Didn't your so called killers know about the situation on ground before taking the mandate or was turning the economy around wasn't part of their fake promises?

Argentina president met inflation on rise but in less than one year, the man has brought the inflation below how he met it.

At Ogun state campaign ground elder Tinubu said and I quote "Wón so ro epo, epo a won, a di 200, adi 500. E fo kan bale, a ma GBE wa le"

Loosely translated "They are talking about fuel, they say it will be 200, it will be 500. Go and relax. We will bring it down"

How much is fuel today?

MaxInDHouse:
Surely you don't worth my response.

But you already responded!

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah o!

You didn't even follow the thread it's Max you came to attack!

If I'm not following the thread, I won't be able to contribute.

I'm just addressing your misunderstanding about AI.

Proof me wrong by asking AI about Watchtower and paste it here.

Or is that hard to do?

helinues:
Irrelevant.

Me I thought price of goods and services remain the same outside Nigeria

No one ever said price of things didn't change outside Nigeria.

The point of contention has been HYPERINFLATION in Nigeria.

So, don't change the point.

MightySparrow:
Artificial intelligence is taking over everything in these last days. Soon the entire humanity will depend largely on AI from driverless vehicles to, smart watched, smart TV, smart homes, smart market, smart anything....

However, is it the God that the minds makers of computer have comprehended that AI will comprehend?

1Tim.6.20 - O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Mark my word!

Watchtower will soon join the league of AI user.

helinues:
Did the price of eggs in UK remain the same?

That's the point

That's not the point.

The point is how economy was badly handle by the killers calling themselves leaders, reason why inflation are under control in some places or even getting reduced like in Argentina but getting skyrocketed in Nigeria.

helinues:
In 2020 in the UK, eggs averaged 80p per dozen, that is about 6p per egg.

Someone wrote the above quote on this same thread

Yes! But did you grab the message the person was passing?

Here is the message: "In 2024, it had risen to about 144p per dozen which is about 12p per egg.
So price of eggs rose by 100% in 4 years in the UK"

So, within four years in UK, eggs price rose by just 100% while in Nigeria in the same period price of eggs rose by a whooping 1000%

Do you think, what is happening in it's a global thing?

MaxInDHouse:
So it's what the maker PROGRAMMED it to do that it will do unlike when each human listens carefully to decide what they will do!

Funny thing is, how you don't think deep before starting your attack.

Who will human LISTEN TO If not the same HUMAN?

And the idea behind AI is to PASS THE SAME MESSAGE from HUMAN to whoever WILL LISTEN carefully to decide what they will do.

If you think, I'm wrong.

Ask Meta AI or Chatgpt anything about Watchtower and paste it here. Let's see if it will be different from what you were taught in your hall.

helinues:
What's your arguments about again?

You're the one who inferred that eggs rising price is global.

If it's global, is Nigeria own not outrageous?

MaxInDHouse:
The way humans use their brains at times often shock me, how can a human being leave his or her own brains only to rely on what a machine will say about faith in God?

But it's human who designed the MACHINE!

Tayorshd87:
Even if this is related to truth or not have u forgotten somebody programmed the machine??

So of the person is a Muslim so what do u expect the machine to say about Christian?

Well that's not how those AI works.

Try to interact with them and experience it first hand.

No AI widely using today will openly say YES! GOD does not exist or Jesus is fake or Islam is lie.

Those AI used advanced algorithm to draw point from massive data bank and most of the algorithm used are like a pattern.

On March 1, 1954, the US detonated her first thermo-nuclear weapon or fusion bomb.

Within one second the fire ball was almost 5miles wide and hotter than the sun.

Within one minute the mushroom cloud was higher than most commercial plane flies.

Under 10mins the result of the explosion is felt over 100km wide

The fire ball was reportedly seen over 400km way.

The indescribable of the light from the flash of the fire ball makes the bones of the nearby men visible through their flesh.

The bomb expected yield is about 6 Megatons of TNT but actual yield was anticipated of around 15 Megatons.

This is the story of a deadly bomb the Castle Bravo in Bikini Atoll..
The bomb consists of two sections a primary fission bomb similar to the one detonated over Hiro zhima in Japan and a secondary fussion bomb.

On detonation, electrical signal is passed to the primary section causing a chemical reaction at in the inner core of the primary section that produces higher level of heat hotter than that of the sun, 100million °C the center of our sun is 15million °C.

The heat causing a chain reaction at the secondary fussion bomb, this back and forth reaction between the two bombs create a huge explosion reaping everything apart.

The castle bravo casing and other things at the island became a blinding fireball of plasma, it creates a crater of 200m wide and over 75m deep.

The falling colorized radioactive was carried to unexpected people like the Japanese Fishing boat 80miles away was affected and unfortunately it led to the death of one crew member Aikichi Kuboyama.

The wind carried the radioactive particles eastward affecting the islands.

By 1963, 9 years after the fallout, according to the secretive medical studies, the fallout led to long term health issues to the affected communities including high rate of cancer, thyroid disorder and birth defects.

The fallout from the castle bravo test was the worst in human history.

If you think any of those countries with nuclear weapons will detonate their bomb anytime soon, your guess might be wrong.

What do you think?

Credit: learnfromthebase

fuckingAyaya:
To serve God no be child's play, I'm talking about real men of God ooo not all these ones that are after tithes and showbiz now

If you're alive during their time, you'll also called them FAKE.

helinues:
Make your findings and get back to us. Done be fixated about Nigeria

You started the global stuff, so do your findings first and paste your result if you have the courage.

If you're sure of your statement.

You just learnt that English word yet poorly applied.

helinues:
Teleport back to 2020.

Sebi some of una refused to move in life

You will come and tell us if the price of eggs around the globe in 2020 still remain the same

Since the price of eggs aren't remain the same around the globe, what is the percentage in increment around the globe?

If you have the intellectual capacity to handle this, let's go!

CAPTIVATOR:
mumu

And when Jesus died . God doesn't have wisdom.... Very daft person

The human FLESH DIED.

NOT HIS ETERNAL BEING.

Spirit don't died.

Point remains Jesus admitted he doesn't know the day and hour and only his Father knows. irrespective of whatever anyone said on his behalf.

But Jesus knows ALL THINGS

and Jesus is The WISDOM OF YOUR GOD.

So, without Jesus Your God doesn't have any KNOWLEDGE

CAPTIVATOR:
It has nothing to do with being human, it's a testament to the Fact that he isn't Almighty. God almighty doesn't have anyone greater. Heb 6:13 is clear.

Jesus is Almighty God!

That was His HUMAN PART!

Jesus lied when he said ONLY the Father knows ?

No! You lack comprehension!

Normally I know you don't have sense. But I don't know it's this critical.

" Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, “The two will become one flesh.” 1Cor 6:16


In your little brain, the man who joins with a prostitute have told the prostitute everything in his mind and heart , hiding nothing? He doesn't most of the time. Yet the bible said he is one with the prostitute. If you don't understand what It means for husband and wife to be one, just speak. It has nothing to do with not revealing certain things. Fact remains the Father didn't reveal the day and hour to the Son. The same way an husband may not reveal certain things to his wife.

Don't let me even address your ignorance of that 1 Corin 6:16

Then it means both the Father and the Son are not ONE INTENT.

Your organization lied also then.

CAPTIVATOR:
Cos you are a fool

Matt 10:28 is about the Grave.

The issue here is about what happened to wicked spirit person's that Return to heaven!?

Unrighteousness cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. How come Wicked persons are returning to the same Kingdom of God TO RETIRE

Comprehension is hard for you . You refuted nothing. At what point did Job began to exist as a living being? In the womb. That is the moment that signified the presence of Spirit.

If nothing came into the womb and activate life, it means NOTHING RETURNED!

Already settled this!

You lies have been exposed.

Zaheertyler:
Please can someone explain to me

Jesus Christ is the Eternal Life!

Petalss:
Thank you for the clarification.

The key issue at hand is that both of these verses are found in Scripture, and the context of each must be considered in addressing the matter.
1. John 16:30. Disciples statement
"Now we understand that You know everything, and You do not need anyone to ask You questions. This gives us confidence to believe that You have come from God.

In this passage, the disciples are affirming their faith in Jesus' divine knowledge.

2. Mark 13:32. Jesus's statement
"But concerning that day or hour, no one knows—not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son—only the Father.

Here, Jesus is explicitly stating that the timing of this day is known only to God the Father, excluding even Himself (the Son) and the angels from that knowledge.

@underlined above is the key!

Petalss:
I assure you that I am being honest and not trying to hold anyone back. If you had provided clear explanations regarding the verse I referenced, I wouldn’t have needed to ask for clarification again.

Additionally, the other person addressed you multiple times, yet I still couldn't find any clear reasoning behind why Jesus stated that He did not know certain things. The only insight I could find was your assertion that "Jesus knows all things."

Yes! Jesus knows ALL THINGS but not my own ASSERTION BUT FROM THE SCRIPTURE!

The verse is self explanatory. My main point is, the people who stood in front of Jesus when Jesus made that statement you reference in that verse LATER ACKNOWLEDGED that Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS IN THE PRESENCE OF JESUS HIMSELF.

Besides, the scripture says Jesus is "THE WISDOM OF GOD!"

Do you understand the implication of a lesser being to be the VERY WISDOM OF GOD ALMIGHTY?

CAPTIVATOR:
Why are you afraid to answer

Do spirit person return to heaven with Physical body as mentioned in Matt 10:28?

If no, that means the text isn't about any spirit. Showing the spirit that return to God remain with God.

Matt 10 is about God having the final say over the dead.

God didn't bury people in the grave.

Oponu

You are yet to prove that God judge what return to heaven! What we have at Matt 10:28 is a fully functioning human body

Function but is about DEAD.

You see the reason I said you're OPONU

Still on that text

Ecc 12:7 " Return "

What came from God into the baby in the womb ?

A. Nothing
B. spirit Person
C. Breath of life

Whatever you pick in the option will tell us what RETURNS.

Nothing came from God into the BABY IN THE WOMB

Stop spewing this nonsense and stop disgracing yourself on public forum.

Not even when the nonsense you said about Job was refuted.

CAPTIVATOR:
God almighty dey get who greater than him? Olodo.

That was the human part.

No can can be compare to God Almighty but scripture didn't only compare Jesus Christ but put Him on the same Level.

Jesus never said he knows all things , but he confess to not knowing the day and hour. This is the perfect testimony

Still keep spewing the nonsense.

That statement was made in the presence of Jesus, and Jesus went to ENDORSED IT.


Shabi....that was the reason your evil mind said, Bible contains contradiction.

Cos you are a fool

If I hide some information from my wife, it means we are not one according to your useless thought.

Oponu....radarada.

Yes you're not ONE THE MOMENT YOU HIDE ANYTHING FROM YOUR WIFE.

Oneness is about having the same INTENT, how can you have THE SAME INTENT WITH ANOTHER WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HIDE SOMETHING FROM THEM?

Reason, it took you time before you answered that question and at the end you still displayed your emptiness.

The Father hide the day and hour from the Son! scriptural Fact Matt 24:36

Then they are NOT ONE INTENT.

That is the fact.

Meaning, Jesus lied!

Petalss:
I need clarification about this verse.

In Matthew 24:36 (NIV), it states,
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

If Jesus is the one speaking, why did He say He didn’t know if He actually did? What was His purpose in saying He was unaware?

You don't need clarity.

Stop lying.

You already on this and I've done before.

So, stop dragging us backward!