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Gabrielshow24:
As regards the other fool, he is intentionally looking at interpretations that favors is own narrative so that he can ask questions and think he is wise!!!

It's evident even from the diagram that the Father is not the son(Word of God) likewise the Holyspirit

But for the sake of his own narrative he assumes that God(as an identity) is the same as the three!!!

Making God look like someone having a personality disorder!!!

He turns his blind eye to the fact that the God you allude to is "the concept of nature"!!!

And the diagram is better interpreted as The Father is God, the son is God, the spirit is God where each are not the same! 🙃

But for the sake of his mischievousness he says God is Father, son, Spirit implying an identity.

He's a fool!!!

Truthseeker10:
You claimed Kjv did not use it because of Grammatical accuracy. Are you now saying that using "The God" in John 1:1 is a Grammatical error?

You mean the original Greek says "The God" is "the Father" in John 1:1 according to you?

What is the Greek word for "The father" and what is the Greek word for "The God"?

Are you now saying that the greek word rendered "THE God" cannot be used for "The Son" And The Holy Spirit in John 1:1?

Truthseeker10:
You claim king James version did not use The God because of Grammatical accuracy. So why are you now adding "The God" to that verse. Are you not causing a Grammatical error?

I never said it did. I was only asking a question

I clearly said that if the Diagram says that God is the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit, How can John 1:1 say that the word is God and is with God.

You are claiming that with God is actually with THE GOD But was not used that way because of Grammatical accuracy.

You also claimed that THE God refers to the Father IN John 1:1 after claiming that The Word "God" is generic and can refer to the three individual in the Diagram.

So where did you get The God as Only The Father in John 1:1?

MaxInDHouse:
Does that mean God can reveal names of His spirit sons to you through magic practicers?

MaxInDHouse:
Do you want to agree with what God's word revealed or magical books?

MaxInDHouse:
Perfectly but then we must stick to the names mentioned in God's word!

Truthseeker10:
So why was "The God" not put in the king James version?

Even if it was put, are you saying that "THE GOD" appears in the Diagram that i showed you and that it only refers to The Father?

If you agree that the Diagram has only one "GOD" as nature, where did you see "GOD" as person in the Diagram?

MaxInDHouse:
Names revealed in God's word!

MaxInDHouse:
So how do you distinguish the names of demons from angels if you welcome all names from different books?

Truthseeker10:
I am only explaining John 1:1 with a diagram that I showed you that you claim was correct. The diagram clearly shows that God is the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit.

What is the grammatical accuracy that the king James version is not using it for?

According to the diagram that I showed you, How many "GOD"(nature) presented in the Diagram?

Is The word "God"(nature) used as person in the Diagram?

MaxInDHouse:
Only two names were mentioned in God's word regarding angels:
Michael and Gabriel!

MaxInDHouse:
We only stick to what is found in God's word! John 17:17

Truthseeker10:
So If The Word "Adam" refers to person and nature, how does it correlate to John 1:1?

So are you saying that The WOMAN(person) who is MAN(NATURE) is with MAN(NATURE)?

Please what translation uses "THE GOD" and "GOD" in John 1:1 because the Kjv does not use it?

King James Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was [b]with God, and the Word was God

New King James Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm using terms that reasonable persons will understand.
God is a Spirit {John 4:24} so whatever he showed anyone is his glory!

MaxInDHouse:
God's word never includes those names!

MaxInDHouse:
God only showed Moses his glory not his face!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ God's word doesn't contradicts it's you people who refuse to learn that's giving yourself the problem.

God cannot be seen {John 1:18 compare to Exodus 33:20} but the god who always represents him can be seen.


Simple as ABC!

Truthseeker10:
I don't want to get confused with your explanation.
You clearly said that MAN Is Generic that refers to nature which is male and female.

ADAM= person.
According to your explanation, ADAM= MAN by nature not by person.

Woman=Eve.
THE Woman is MAN(nature) is correct.
The WOMAN is a MAN(nature) is also correct.
Except you explain the difference between MAN and A MAN.

Kindly bring out where John 1:1 says the word(person) was with The Father(person).

MaxInDHouse:
Good!

Oya explain these scriptures:

“You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.” Exodus 33:20

No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him. John 1:18

Exodus God was talking about man using his own power to see Him.

Remember, the same God told Moses, there is a PART OF ME you can see.

Did God lie when He showed Moses that PART OF HIM?

Don't dodge my question.

Which means I can make you see what I wanted you to see of me.

I've addressed the other point.

I'm listening!

MaxInDHouse:
When Jehovah's Witnesses are confidently speaking about what we know you people want to argue.
Please how come the Bible says Moses spoke to Jehovah face to face {Exodus 33:11} Abraham spoke with Jehovah {Genesis 18:3} yet John the apostle said no man has ever seen God at any given time? John 1:18
Definitely it's the angel representing God all these people saw which was Jesus in his prehuman existence!

MaxInDHouse:
Exodus 13:21 says Jehovah himself was leading the Israelites but it was Chapter 14:19 that reveals its an angel REPRESENTING Jehovah!

Truthseeker10:
According to what I understand above.
MAN= nature.
man=person.

MAN= male and female.
man is not = male and female.

man=Adam
woman=Eve

So MAN is nature not an individual person..... but refers to both male and female.

According to the diagram, God is the Father, The son and the Holy Spirit. John 1:1 mention The word(person) Who is God(nature). Can you bring out the other person mentioned in John 1:1?

MaxInDHouse:
Now Jehovah was going ahead of them by day in a pillar of cloud to lead them along the way, and by night in a pillar of fire to give them light, so that they could travel by day and by night. Exodus 13:21

Then the angel of the true God who was going ahead of the camp of Israel departed and went to their rear, and the pillar of cloud that was in front of them moved to the rear and stood behind them. Exodus 14:19

Go now, lead the people to the place about which I have spoken to you. Look! My angel will go ahead of you, and on the day when I make an accounting, I will bring punishment on them for their sin.” Exodus 32:34

He said: “Look! I see four men walking about free in the midst of the fire, and they are unharmed, and the fourth one looks like a son of the gods.” Daniel 3:25

“During that time Miʹcha·el will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book. And many of those asleep in the dust of the earth will wake up, some to everlasting life and others to reproach and to everlasting contempt. Daniel 12:1-2

Only one angel has been representing Jehovah and Daniel said it's the Archangel whose voice will raise the dead! Daniel 12:2 compare to John 5:28-29; 1 Thessalonians 4:16

Truthseeker10:
I don't know because your explanation is not yet clear.

Does John 1:1 mention another person apart from The Word(person) Who is God(nature)?

MaxInDHouse:
Only one angel represents God anytime the Bible mentions one angel standing in behalf of God's people!

Truthseeker10:
I don't know the answer to your Question because you are still helping me to define what "God" is according to the diagram that i showed you in which you agreed that it was correct.

Does not The diagram clearly shows that Three persons share one nature in the middle which is called "God" And that one nature "God" is shared by three persons? So How can The Word(person) be God(nature) and be with God(nature)?

MaxInDHouse:
Because we know that God is not an angel so it must be Jesus!

Truthseeker10:
Does not The diagram clearly shows that Three persons share one nature in the middle which is called "God" And that one nature "God" is shared by three persons? So How can The Word(person) be God(nature) and be with God(nature)?

MaxInDHouse:
Ask the OP nah!
Àbí nah Jehovah's Witnesses infuse what he typed in his head?

Truthseeker10:
So according to the Diagram, is the word "God" Generic or the word "God" is The Father, The son and The Holy Spirit?

Truthseeker10:
So If the the diagram clearly states that God is the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit, How can the Word Who is God be with God according to John 1:1?

Truthseeker10:
Do you agree with the diagram below?