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Christianity EtcRe: Christians Who Reverted To Islam Share Your Story Here by enilove(m): 8:57am On Dec 22, 2017
Stop intruding. You have your section.
Muhammed told you the truth that you will end in hell if you remain a Muslim till death:

Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The people said, "Yes." He said, "These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons. .......
Christianity EtcRe: Mallam Yusuf Adepoju Of ACADIP Got Embarrassed By Muhammad Lifestyle by enilove(m): 8:23am On Dec 22, 2017
Empiree:
[s][/s]Exactly what i just said. You will never be satisfied.
Falsehoods cannot satisfy.
You are satisfied with those atrocities Muhammed committed ,isn't it ? You belief someone who manipulated the blind Arabs to have his way and told them the truth that they will end in hell?

Is this the words of a God?
Allah SWT says:

يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا لَا تَدْخُلُوا بُيُوتَ النَّبِىِّ إِلَّآ أَنْ يُؤْذَنَ لَكُمْ إِلٰى طَعَامٍ غَيْرَ نٰظِرِينَ إِنٰىهُ وَلٰكِنْ إِذَا دُعِيتُمْ فَادْخُلُوا فَإِذَا طَعِمْتُمْ فَانْتَشِرُوا......ا
"O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab: Verse 53)

Allah SWT says:

وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِىٓ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِى فِى نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشٰىهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا قَضٰى زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنٰكَهَا لِكَىْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِىٓ أَزْوٰجِ أَدْعِيَآئِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا
"And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab: Verse 37)

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 48:

Narrated Hisham's father:
Bukhari
Khaula bint Hakim was one of those ladies who presented themselves to the Prophet for marriage. 'Aisha said, "Doesn't a lady feel ashamed for presenting herself to a man?" But when the Verse: "(O Muhammad) You may postpone (the turn of) any of them (your wives) that you please,' (33.51) was revealed, " 'Aisha said, 'O Allah's Apostle! I do not see, but, that your Lord hurries in pleasing you.' "

He could marry more than 4 wives but other Muslims could not . Why believing this kind of religion ? Why can't Allah show miracles and wonders to make people believe instead of asking them to use swords and kill to spread Islam?
Christianity EtcRe: Mallam Yusuf Adepoju Of ACADIP Got Embarrassed By Muhammad Lifestyle by enilove(m): 10:59pm On Dec 21, 2017
Empiree:
Even if he was to answer yes or no, do you think you guys would be satisfied with his answer?. He knew very well what he was doing. That's why he gave his analogical answer. Besides, i have answered that.

If mallam Yusuf had said there are muslim men who married young girls in some parts of the world, you would still call them pedophilia. So his response was perfect for you to ponder on. Why did you marry if Jesus did not. It goes both ways, buddy
Why can't you Muslims reason about all these shameful acts of Muhammed ? why?

Apart from marriage to 6 yes old ,
He married his sons wife,
He married the age of his mother
He told his followers to engage in temporary marriage
He used to have sex with all his eleven wives in a day
He had sexual power of 30 men
He expects 72 virgins for his followers
He approved adult breast feeding.
He encouraged rape of women in captivity.

What about this :

Book 008, Number 3371:
Sahih Muslim
Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- senger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

This is not about argument , pls pray to your creator to inquire if this Islam is a way of salvation. Ignorance is not an excuse to escape eternal damnation.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Did Christians Get Their Concept Of Satan From ? by enilove(m): 10:16am On Dec 21, 2017
urahara:
Satan in the Old Testament and in Judaism is seen as a heavenly obstacle , a holy angel who even has no free will.

Jews state that the serpent in the garden of Eden was not the devil but a real talking snake.

Satan never rebelled against YHWH but was created for the purpose of tempting people — usually Satan is more a symbol than an actual being.

In Judaism, It would be blasphemous and a violation of monotheism to regard him as a rival to YHWH, as Satan is in some forms of Christianity. Judaism also rejects the concept of original sin.

since Christianity claims that both the Old Testament and the new testament were inspired by god.

then why does the new testament contradict the Old Testament.

it's either Yahweh decided to deceive the Jews about Satan's real nature or Christians are being deceived.

In fact, the Talmud says, all that Satan does, he does for the sake of heaven. Without him, the defense attorney wouldn't bother to dig up all the merits of the defense. And the defense would have to try so hard to give himself more merits.

If we take a look at Isaiah 45:7, we see that Hashem is the creator of everything, as the text says, “bringing forth light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil, I am G-d who does all these things.” In the Jewish bible, everything is under the jurisdiction of G-d and under His power – all forces, even evil forces. Everything comes from G-d, He created everything, good and evil. That being the case, Satan is not a rival of G-d, he is a messenger of G-d and unable to do anything outside of G-d’s will.


so my question is..... where did Christians get their foreign concept of Satan from?


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dalaman

oladegbu

analice

jonbelion

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sciencewatch

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You are a servant of the devil. You better desist from this part of destruction before it gets too late for you.
You cannot befriend the devil and be an enemy of God. That is madness . You can't please the devil. Devil did not create you.
Return to God and He will have mercy on you.
Christianity EtcRe: Mallam Yusuf Adepoju Of ACADIP Got Embarrassed By Muhammad Lifestyle by enilove(m): 9:23am On Dec 21, 2017
iamgenius:
The last part of the video answers the question, why do Christians marry while Jesus didn't marry too?

Why don't Christians follow this too:

John 2:3-4) But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me

The verse above is what Nigerian politicians also practice.
Jesus said he has not come to cancel the word of God but to fulfil it .It is written in : Genesis 1:28 KJV
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

If Christians don't marry how can we multiply and subdue the earth, wish is the decree of God?

You are right , he answered the question at the end of the video ,but did not get the answer because he knew 98% of Muslims are not ready to give their children of 6 years old to an old man of 67 years and more so ,it is shameful.

As regarding John 2:3-4 ( wrongly quoted ) how does that relate to the video ? The same serpentine way used by that Imam in the video is what you are exhibiting . When a topic is on " cow tail" you Muslims will be talking about " camel urine" to shift focus from the main issue.

You should get some lessons from that video , which are :
Muhammed should not be followed and secondly
Christians should be emulated as good examples. This was the answer to the question the Imam gave.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Christ Created? by enilove(m): 10:20pm On Dec 20, 2017
saintmark88:
Guy o which kind lie be this, pls show me were that proverbs u quoted from was referring to Jesus??.... Show me nytyn that indicates Jesus.


Proverbs 8New International Version (NIV)


8 Does not wisdom call out?
Does not understanding raise her voice?
2 At the highest point along the way,
where the paths meet, she takes her stand;
3 beside the gate leading into the city,
at the entrance, she cries aloud:
4 “To you, O people, I call out;
I raise my voice to all mankind.
5 You who are simple, gain prudence;

Even a blind man can see proverbs 8 was clearly talking about wisdom not Jesus. U went to sch, u know what personification means.....wisdom was only been personified.

Thomas called Jesus his God....My lord and my God and Jesus didn't say, hey!!!......what are u doing, dnt j know I am created.

Jesus referin to his Father as my God doesn't mean he is created.. A created been cannot be the first and d last., d alpha and the omega, the beginning and d end....

I doubt if u know the meaning of Alpha and Omega , Begining and End, First and Lasthuh
Proverbs 8:32-36 KJV
Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
[33] Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not. [34] Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
[35] For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord .
[36] But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

Just read the few verses above again , may God give you understanding, in Jesus name.

The greatest attribute of a God is creativity. We are created in the likeness of God , means we human beings are creators and we are gods.

Jesus said Jehovah is his God . God means a creator . Creator means to bring into existence. A son cannot come into existence without the father.
Jesus said God is his Father.

Read again the verse below again .

Revelation 3:12 KJV
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD , and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, and the name of the city of MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD: and I will write upon him my new name.

JESUS CALLED JEHOVAH HIS GOD. To call someone your God ,means he is your creator.

It us through a father that son can come into existence. The Bible says in :
John 3:16-17 KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Tell me the meaning of MY GOD.
Christianity EtcRe: Mallam Yusuf Adepoju Of ACADIP Got Embarrassed By Muhammad Lifestyle by enilove(m):
I just watched the video , it is shows how Muslims lie in the face of evidence. Very funny and hilarious.

He ( Alfa) tried to avoid giving answer to the question by saying " give us evidence" , the guy later produced evidence by quoting the hadith . When the hadith was quoted , he said it was from the phone...

It is a must watched video.

Thanks ,op.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Christ Created? by enilove(m): 6:47pm On Dec 20, 2017
saintmark88:
Good.....so u agree that Jesus can lay claim to being the first and the last.....but u have not answered why Jesus who according to u is created can lay claim to be the first and the last.

I will address this my God means my creator nonsense u put up der in a yl, one at a time
Jesus started existing with his Father from the biginning, so he say he is the Ist and the last.
Apart from the book of John , we read it clearly below where Jesus said "I was brought forth ", meaning created from the biginning.
Proverbs 8:22-36 KJV
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
[23] I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
[24] When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
[25] Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26] While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
[27] When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
[28] When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
[29] When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
[30] Then I was by him, as one brought up with him : and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
[31] Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
[32] Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
[33] Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
[34] Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
[35] For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord .
[36] But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.


Verse 23 States " I was set up from everlasting...."

John 1:1-2 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] The same was in the beginning with God.

Remember that Jesus called his Father his God
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Christ Created? by enilove(m): 6:02pm On Dec 20, 2017
saintmark88:
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."
Revelation:22:13

How can a created being lay claim to be the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last.............??


Rev 22 vs 12-14
12“Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to each person according to what he has done. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.” 14Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by its gates.…


Revelation 21:6
And He told me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give freely from the spring of the water of life.

Isaiah 41:4
"Who has performed and accomplished it, Calling forth the generations from the beginning? 'I, the LORD, am the first, and with the last. I am He.'"


Isaiah 44:6
"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.

So as u can in Isaiah Yahweh uses this title of first and last, beginning and end, alpha and omega . but I'm revelation Jesus uses this same title for himself, could Jesus be taking title meant for his father.

Can any created being, human or angel, claim to be the first and last, alpha and omega. If none can, then there is a problem with what u have been taught in JW.

Now I know how difficult it is to negate all u have grown to know over the years. All m asking u is study these things with an open mind, and I will begin to see the truth.
You asked if any created being can claim to be " the first and last, alpha omega"?
The answer is YES. JESUS CAN.

CAN ALPHA OMEGA HAVE A GOD? YES. JESUS IS ALPHA AND OMEGA and he has a GOD.
Revelation 3:12 KJV
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


God is a creator . Jesus said "my God" which means my CREATOR.
Christianity EtcRe: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by enilove(m): 3:10pm On Dec 20, 2017
Maamin:
They gradually encroach into your territory and space, pretend to be friendly, mingle and take what is yours, deface and make it theirs then turn it right back at you by condemning yours to be fake and no longer original while trying to force theirs on you and if you try to oppose and question them they get all violent and angry to attack and maim you. They will call you names like Kafir/infidel/unbeliever etc. These are fanatical and extremist Muslims for you grin




Advice :- beware of them
Thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
We have known the truth . Part of their tactics was to say " we serve the same God" ,to make you lower your guide . Muhammed used that against the Jews back then.
He started by saying we serve the same God and there is no compulsion in religion , but latter began calling us idol worshippers and said idol worshippers should be enforced to accept Islam or be killed.

They practice Taqiyyah a lot. They see it as wisdom. They know in their heart that their religion is a religion opposite of peace but they shamelesly say its a religion of peace as if other people are blind and deaf to all their evils, present and past.
Christianity EtcRe: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by enilove(m): 2:41pm On Dec 20, 2017
resurgentxtian4:
I only know few educated Muslims in yorubaland.Most of them are touts who have nothing to lose in a war situation. You can see them supporting the present Government because its policies have not really changed their circumstance in life. They are the touts, market women, mechanics and all what not so you get what I mean. We Christians must weigh the cost of the war if we were to embark on it. It is not impossible to do we only have to get our leaders to support us. All we are asking is a fair country that is properly restructured to cater to our individual differences and aspirations as a people.

On the whole, Christians must prepare very well if we want to maintain the secularity of the nation. The muslims are not child’s play. They are crude and primitive and we must be vicious to nip their excesses in the bud. They hate Fayose because he’s decisive and firm against Islamic terror. We Christians must be firm too if we want to curtail them.
Wars are fought on two levels. The spiritual and the physical.
It is the winner of the spiritual war that always wins the physical wars.

This religious war started long time when Nigeria joined the Islamic nations. But with prayers we will win.
We may not need to go into any war if God wants it that way.
God can decide that their weapons bought to destroy others shall be used to destroy the buyer. Wars go beyond the touts. Millions of touts can be destroyed within minutes .

We need to be prayerful and we shall win come what may.
Christianity EtcRe: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by enilove(m): 2:14pm On Dec 20, 2017
resurgentxtian4:
Are you ready to fight a war with Muslims?
Are the Muslims ready to fight war with the Christians ?
Christianity EtcRe: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by enilove(m): 1:53pm On Dec 20, 2017
resurgentxtian4:
If you have money, emigrate with your family.
I have money . God did not make mistake by creating me to be living in Nigeria. It is only the foolish ones that would leave their land of birth because of wars .

When the war starts we will see who will emigrate.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Christ Created? by enilove(m): 1:35pm On Dec 20, 2017
PaChukwudi44:
did you bother to read what you quoted?
Can you quote or write without reading what you are writing?

I quoted the Bible , I did not write it.

What you should have quoted is the verses saying categorically that Jesus was not created by God.

There plenty of other Bible references telling us that Jesus was created by God.
I may be wrong , but I need proof from the Bible.
Christianity EtcRe: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by enilove(m): 1:28pm On Dec 20, 2017
resurgentxtian4:
The fact is that Muslims are terrorists and can only be resisted with brute force. We should learn a thing or two from the state of Israel which has been able to defend herself from muslim terrorist nations in the Middle East for decades. Christians in Nigeria have a lot of work to do to maintain the secularity of the nation else we would be islamised!
God bless the OP, God bless you too.

The truth shall prevail.
These Muslims know the truth that the origin of their religion is violence and presently violent . They can lie in a way that would make the dead to rise with anger condemn them and then go .

On Fridays at Agege , they will block the main road meant for every one in the name of religion , is that not lawlessnes and lack of respect for other road users?

This hijab of a thing is insane to defend.It is lawlessness of the highest order.

The members would only desist if when an innocent soul is killed you kill double of their members in retaliations , that us when they will seek peace.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Christ Created? by enilove(m): 8:43am On Dec 20, 2017
ojobolinda:
I want to knw if he's created or if he has no beginning like God The Father....... And what does d bible mean by "Begotten of the Father"?.
He was created by God from the biginning.

Colossians 1:14-20 KJV
In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
[15] Who is the image of the invisible God, THE FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE:
[16] For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
[17] And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. [18] And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
[19] For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
[20] And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say , whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Christianity EtcRe: My Opinion On The Lady That Was Denied To Be Called To Bar, Amasa Fridaus by enilove(m): 8:13am On Dec 20, 2017
To remove hijab is not to remove her underwear . The code of conduct of the profession must be followed.

There are uniforms for some types of jobs . A police woman cannot put on hijab neither can Christians put on their christian caps while in police uniform.

A good religion should obey the law of the land , just like the Bible says in : Romans 13:1-3,7 KJV

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. [2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
[3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
[7] Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due ; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
CareerRe: Magistrate Denies A Muslim Counsel Audience For Wearing Hijab by enilove(m): 7:51am On Dec 20, 2017
Rashduct4luv:
No it's never a waste. The law recognises the fundamentals human rights of Freedom of religion. If Muslims say hijab is part of their dressing, then who are you to go against them since the law is in line with their actions. And going to school shouldn't relegate our religion. I hope you get the gist. Whether highly educated or not, hijab is the dressing of a Muslim female.
Religion should submit to the law of the land. The land or country is the keeper of peace not religion organisations.
Everyone cannot be allowed to put on whatever they like just because their religion allows it.

Every organisation has it rules and regulation guiding its operations. Professional bodies have codes of conduct which the members must follow.
These codes of conduct must be adhered to by every member and aspiring member.

Removal of hijab is not removal of pants and braziers.
If every one is allowed to wear whatever they wish because of their religion or fundamental human rights some will put on rubbish and nonsense things.

How would it look if police women starts putting on hijab and church caps on their uniforms.
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Time For Every Discerning Christian To Flee Nigeria If The Money Is There by enilove(m): 7:23pm On Dec 19, 2017
resurgentxtian4:
Amen sister but it is time to move beyond prayers to actually talking to church leaders and quizzing them about their response to the moves of the Muslims. We have three choices and they are:

1. Demand a national discussion where all the groups state their demands from the country.

2. Arm ourselves and be ready for any eventuality ( the church has money and the state of Israel has been proetecting herself from Muslim enemies since 1948)

3. Or millions of Christians flee the country to allow for full Islamization (last ditch effort)

We have been praying for years and they haven’t stopped wishing to turn our laws and force their religion down our throats.

The time for niceties is over.
I am a man.

You have good points but the last one is out of it.

How do we start ? Do we need a whatsapp number for better discussion from diff churches ?

Lest I forget, the most important is prayer in addition to your other options.
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Time For Every Discerning Christian To Flee Nigeria If The Money Is There by enilove(m): 5:04pm On Dec 19, 2017
Satanic agenda for Christianity in Nigeria shall not proper, in Jesus name.

The name of Jesus shall be glorified over Nigeria, in Jesus name.

The God that did not create Nigeria with the people and the fullness thereof , shall not rule over Nigeria , in Jesus name.

Psalm 20:5-8 KJV
We will rejoice in thy salvation, and in the name of our God we will set up our banners: the Lord fulfil all thy petitions.
[6] Now know I that the Lord saveth his anointed; he will hear him from his holy heaven with the saving strength of his right hand.
[7] Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the Lord our God.
[8] They are brought down and fallen: but we are risen, and stand upright.

Amen.
Christianity EtcRe: Message To All Nigerian By An Unknown Prophet (A Must Read) by enilove(m):
resurgentxtian4:
THIS IS THE REAL MESSAGE

I just want to advice all christians, both the ones that have the means or those that dont have to start making arrangements to leave the country permanently. The past few days have been tough in the legal profession of which i am a member because of this Hijab issue and the muslims have put up a united front to ensure that they violently get their way on the issue. The sad news is that they would not stop at that. They would eventually ask for Sharia law in Nigeria. That is very sure. We Christians have lost it in this country and their is no going back from here as our leaders have failed us. Our leaders used our tithe monies to buy airplanes and build mansions while knowing that we have 50 million plus muslims in this country. Any country that has as much as 20 million as citizens is in trouble not to talk about almost 90 million muslims in Nigeria.

I specifically put the blame on Pastor E.A.Adeboye {I dont why i keep blaming him} for keeping quiet in the face of overt persecution of Nigerian christians. I accept responsibility as a yoruba man that we {Yorubas both christians and muslims alike} all voted Buhari in but Pastor Adeboye should have seen the danger of voting in an Islamic Fundamentalist like Buhari. Pastor Bosun Emmanuel specifically warned of of what will happen but we chose to sell our freedom for a Vice Presidential Seat. How Pitiful! I state it categorically that Pastor Yemi Osinbajo is a very nice man of very high intellectual capacity, but he is not suited for the post of Vice President in these times when the muslims have vowed to islamise the country. Pastor Adeboye has a man of God should have seen the handwriting on the wall and refused to lend this administration a pastor of the RCCG. God will eventually Judge us for our every deed.

The Americans and Israelis that voted in strong Presidents like Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu have done so to curtail the excesses of the muslims but the christians in Nigeria {Especially SW/Christians Christians} still think the muslims are joking with them....We shall see where that gets us.

In closing, will make the following statements of fact/predictions/advice on the future of Nigeria.

1. Firdaos Amosa {The law School girl} shall be called to the Nigerian bar irrespective of the illegality of doing so.

2.Sharia will become the State law in Nigeria in less than 30 years.

3. Buhari/Osinbajo will win the 2019 Presidential Polls with a land slide.

4. Igbos should in the name of God not abandon the biafra struggle.

5. Most Christians who have the money will flee the country in droves thereby robbing Nigeria of the much needed Human Resources.

6. The Christians in the SW who cant travel will convert to Islam.

7. Our Pastors would not raise the money to enable the Christian South free itself from the Northern/Muslim strangle hold.

8. The North will continue resisting any talks of restructuring because their aim is to capture the nation for islam.

9. Nigeria in the absence of Christian resistance will become an Islamic State.

10. The North/SW muslims will never allow Fayose to go anywhere near power as they know his capacity to disrupt their plans.

11. Nigeria will never be great.


If you have the money, i advise that you start making those plans to leave the country. For those who dont have, start saving and making plans today. Do not settle in Nigeria if you dont want to be a muslim.

Go pick up that IELTS manual and study hard like your life depends on it. This is a friendly advice. The only people that can reasonably resist {Igbos} are too disorganised {My apologies to all igbos.}
I REJECT EVERYONE OF THESE PROPHECIES , IN THE NAME OF JESUS. IT SHALL NOT STAND NEITHER SHALL IT COME TO PASS , IN JESUS NAME.

IT IS WRITTEN Matthew 18:18 KJV
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

I BIND ALL THE SATANIC PROPHECIES , IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

IT IS WRITTEN:
Job 22:28 KJV
Thou shalt also decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee: and the light shall shine upon thy ways.

I DECREE BY THE DECREE OF HEAVEN , THE NAME OF JESUS SHALL BE GLORIFIED OVER THIS NATION NIGERIA, IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

EVERY AGENDA OF POWER OF DARKNESS FOR THIS NATION NIGERIA SHALL SCATTER AND BACKFIRE ,IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

AMEN,AMEN,AMEN.
Christianity EtcRe: Many Nigerian Pastors are actually Serial Liars by enilove(m): 12:02pm On Dec 19, 2017
plaetton:
Mr. Spiri Spiri alive.

And so you supposedly see beyond the physical ?
Now, kindly tells what your non-physical sightings have contributed to the human enterprise ?

Oh, oh, let me take a guess!
The smart phone or computer with which you are currently reading and expressing yourself here was discovered or inspired by spiritual visions ? Is that correct ? grin

Nonsense people. undecided

Malaria is still killing millions of people, and yet mor.ons that boast of spiritual visions cannot ever see a cure for such common ailments. huh

It is only in seeing bogus visions to defraud fellow human beings of their earnings are you and your type very very good at.
The best answer for you is silence.
Christianity EtcRe: . by enilove(m): 9:04am On Dec 19, 2017
yanshDoctor:
the Jews or Sarah might not want to admits that pharaoh slept with her, but in old traditions sleeping with a married woman has it own consequence. even in Africa, one must have sleep with her before any reaction and not before.

let look at the powers of pharaoh for been a king, he is supreme and detects, his orders are final and no one can question him. such a person will not waste time in sleeping with beautiful Sarah. also the bible did not recorded how many days, weeks or month she live with pharaoh before the unfortunate plaque.

can you phantom or imagine that pharaoh could or must have slept with her for such punishment. if we should also look at David account for sleeping with a married woman.
Is not too late for you to write your own Bible and insert that your evil imagination into it.
Psalm 2:1 KJV
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
Christianity EtcRe: Many Nigerian Pastors are actually Serial Liars by enilove(m): 12:36am On Dec 19, 2017
KanuJEWSarePIGS:
Your kinds are well littered everywhere.

Whenever you are completely out of steam, you resolve to attack other people's faith and belief to as expected, run hide and feel better.

Provide a better take or argument to the OP's point. This is all that is demanded of you if you must make an input.

Rise up and answer FROSBEL2!

He deserves a sensible argument.

Leave atheist, Islam and even Africa traditional religion out of your woes.

Your style don dey outdated. Dem nor dey use am again.
Did I make mention of atheist and traditional religion ? I did not because they are not terrorists. They practice live and let's live.

The issue of frosbel2 is a minor case which I have answered.
Christianity EtcRe: Many Nigerian Pastors are actually Serial Liars by enilove(m): 12:24am On Dec 19, 2017
plaetton:
Just imagine shocked

You know , this goes right to the grain of what I have always said. That religion tends to stimulates the most primitive and darkest part of the human psyche.
You are spiritually dead but you don't know it.

If you think all that exist is what you see physically, I pity you.
Christianity EtcRe: So All The Proponents Of Tithe Cannot Answer This Simple Question by enilove(m): 9:05pm On Dec 18, 2017
lonikit:
why dont they practice other laws that are generally accepted too.huh
Example pls , of laws not practiced and not explained with reasons to Christians in the Bible.
Christianity EtcRe: Many Nigerian Pastors are actually Serial Liars by enilove(m): 8:55pm On Dec 18, 2017
plaetton:
I agree wholeheartedly.
Pentecostalism, especially the Nigerian version, is the most perverse imitation of religion there has been.
A house that is divided against itself cannot stand.

There are many good churches and many bad ones. Among the good ones choose. No one is forcing anyone to attend a particular church, neither are you forced to pay tithes.

A bad church is better than the best mosque.
Let us be united and stop pulling down the church. Satan is attacking the church using Christians and Muslims , don't be an ignorant agent.

The OP is not a christian he is likely to be an agent of darkness.

This issue of tithe is a satanic arrow against the church.
No one forced Abraham to pay tithe , why should we be talking about not paying as children of Abraham?

Christianity in Nigeria needs unity so as not to end up like Turkey.
The Muslims don't preach, they kill both young and old to spread their religion. They are doing it now in Syria , Egypt ,Iran etc

We need unity not division.

Islam is pure evil from Satan against Jesus Christ and his followers.
Christianity EtcRe: 38 Reasons Why Jesus Is Not God by enilove(m): 7:58pm On Dec 18, 2017
Dr shirk Prince is not a Jew. He was not around at the time of Jesus.
He is a Muslim and would be biased just like Muhammed to promote his Islamic religion.

But this was an eye witness account.
John 10:33-39 KJV
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
[34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
[35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
[36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
[37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. [38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. [39] Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

Verse 33 means Jesus told the Pharisees that he was God. He did not deny it.

What did Jesus say that made the Jews to conclude that he made himself God? The verses b4 the above scriptures reads:
John 10:30-33 KJV

(30) I and my Father are one.
[31] Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
[32] Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? [33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

The number of times Jesus said "I and my Father are one" is more than 38 times in the new testament.


The old testament that says " no man can see God", also tells us that Moses and few with him saw God. This you call contradiction but it is God the son .
There are still many places in the Bible showing that Jesus is God.

If you or your Muslim partner needs clarifications regarding the 38 points ,stat from number and let's reason together fro! the scripture.
Christianity EtcRe: Many Nigerian Pastors are actually Serial Liars by enilove(m): 6:55pm On Dec 18, 2017
frosbel2:
Our Pastors have got it all wrong on the tithe and some have got it more wrong than others by attaching a blessing or curse to tithe payments. They have also got it wrong on the Trinity, Hell Fire and many other made up doctrines.

It makes me wonder, what else do they preach that is false and if they are preaching falsehoods does this not seriously damage their integrity and the credibility of their message. Surely someone who truly has the Spirit of God will not be lying from the pulpit every Sunday because we know that the Spirit of God is truth and him there is no variation or shifting shadow.

Do you think I am going the extreme by calling most Nigerian Pastors serial liars who simply do not preach the truth and instead communicate fables, myth and outright lies to their congregations every Sunday? Their congregations have been hypnotized to absorb their message without question, with no recourse to a thorough exegesis of scripture. Instead, they become minions and robots repeating the same lies and fables such that the lies become mainstream truth. To disagree with this 'truth' makes one an enemy of these people, they use profane language, curses and even threats of violence to stifle constructive debate and protect their safe zones of fallacy and make-believe.

I fear that 90% of what is being preached from most Pentecostal churches is pure garbage and lies, and until Nigerians and Africans in general start to use their God given cognitive ability, they will continue to wallow in ignorance, superstition and I dare say poverty.

Wake up and smell the stench of their lies, hypocrisy and downright wickedness.
What do you know ? Nothing.
Did you not claim there is no hell? I have known your thread to always be in the opposite direction to the right words of God.

Point of correction , it is not Pastors that attached curses to non payment of tithes,it is God. So blame God if you can.

Matthew 5:17,20 KJV
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Christianity EtcRe: So All The Proponents Of Tithe Cannot Answer This Simple Question by enilove(m): 6:19pm On Dec 18, 2017
lonikit:
bible never recorded it.
Why would they make mention of an issue that is generally accepted . Are the apostles makers of laws? They follow the laws and the teachings of our Lord Jesus.

If there was need not to pay tithes, they would have mentioned it like the issue of circumcision.
Christianity EtcRe: Maulid Nabiyi (maulidi) By Baba Ali Mustapha by enilove(m): 5:32pm On Dec 18, 2017
Donald Trump, the Lord is behind you, be not afraid of their treat but be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.

America , the Lord is with you, embrace the Lord God of your ancestors. You shall overcome and be great again, in Jesus name.
Christianity EtcRe: So All The Proponents Of Tithe Cannot Answer This Simple Question by enilove(m): 5:16pm On Dec 18, 2017
lonikit:
did u say tax??
I meant tithe

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