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JesusSonOfGod:
To answer your question, true deliverance is believing that Jesus Christ died for me on the cross. He shed his blood so my sins will be forgiven. It is knowing that I died with Him in baptism and was raised with Him and that he has given me a new life and has disconnected me from my old foundation which is linked down to my father, my father's father down to Adam.

Since Jesus is the 2nd Adam and since he gave me a new life, He didn't leave me empty, He gave me His Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Sonship, which has made me a joint heir with Jesus and now God Almighty is my father. It is knowing that I am now linked to the 2nd Adam(Jesus Christ) and no more the first Adam which the link is from my father down to him.

So therefore, generational curses has nothing to do with the new me, yes it had something to do with the old me when I was not redeemed, when I was still connected to the first Adam and because that first me died with Jesus during baptism by emersion and was raised a new person of which I am now a joint heir with Jesus and now I am the son of God. God is my new family. I no longer have anything to do with generational curses because the enemy no longer has the legal right on the new me, he had the legal right to use it against the old me, but now the old me is dead. I am a new creature and a brand new. Even when the effects of the curses seem to manifest on the new me, I let the devil know he has lost the legal right and I resist him by faith and he flees. I am now a winner!

I just hope you understand this. But will you?

What then is the need for prayers?
Why do we wrestle?

Ephesians 6:12 KJV
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places .

Because you are born again, just don't pray , Jesus has worn the battles for you.

Pharaoh001:
i'm glad you believe in Quran,
Quran 10 vs 94 saying something about Previous book is referring to isiah29:12
English Standard Version
And when they give the book to one who
cannot read, saying, “Read this,” he says, “I
cannot read.” Isaiah 29:12 the
Quran is just affirming for us that... that the bible has already confirmed the coming of Muhammed and scripture(Quran) Doubting there means comparing an contrast between the two and confirmed the real one with no flaws ...comparing Gold and silver and latter know that the Gold(Quran) with you is far superior to a previous silver



The hadith you quoted is rubbish..no doubts about that ....you can't be preaching fake and fabricated lies and expect people to follow you .....
You only preaches false hadith in order to derail and discourage people from following a path you don't want them to follow.

Are you saying Sahih Bukhari is rubbish? If you should say this in Saudi Arabia, you will be slaughtered.
If you don't believe in your hadith anymore , just stick to only the Quran.
Sadly again, the Quran is just a fabricated lie meant to please Muhammed . Why would a book from god contain something as disgraceful as this:

Allah SWT says:
وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِىٓ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِى فِى نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشٰىهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا قَضٰى زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنٰكَهَا لِكَىْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِىٓ أَزْوٰجِ أَدْعِيَآئِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا
"And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab: Verse 37)

Is this from God or man ? Just to destroy his son's marriage ,instead of serving as a good example to mend it.

Allah SWT says:

يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا لَا تَدْخُلُوا بُيُوتَ النَّبِىِّ إِلَّآ أَنْ يُؤْذَنَ لَكُمْ إِلٰى طَعَامٍ غَيْرَ نٰظِرِينَ إِنٰىهُ وَلٰكِنْ إِذَا دُعِيتُمْ فَادْخُلُوا فَإِذَا طَعِمْتُمْ فَانْتَشِرُوا وَلَا مُسْتَئْنِسِينَ لِحَدِيثٍ ۚ إِنَّ ذٰلِكُمْ كَانَ يُؤْذِى النَّبِىَّ فَيَسْتَحْىِۦ مِنْكُمْ ۖ وَاللَّهُ لَا يَسْتَحْىِۦ مِنَ الْحَقِّ ۚ وَإِذَا سَأَلْتُمُوهُنَّ مَتٰعًا فَسْئَلُوهُنَّ مِنْ وَرَآءِ حِجَابٍ ۚ ذٰلِكُمْ أَطْهَرُ لِقُلُوبِكُمْ وَقُلُوبِهِنَّ ۚ وَمَا كَانَ لَكُمْ أَنْ تُؤْذُوا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَلَآ أَنْ تَنْكِحُوٓا أَزْوٰجَهُ ۥ مِنۢ بَعْدِهِۦٓ أَبَدًا ۚ إِنَّ ذٰلِكُمْ كَانَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ عَظِيمًا
"O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab: Verse 53)

Muhammed was afraid that some funny Muslims are trying to talk to his wives, he quickly Google another revelation.

Aishat knew his tactics and had this to say:
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 48:

Narrated Hisham's father:
Sahih Bukhari
Khaula bint Hakim was one of those ladies who presented themselves to the Prophet for marriage. 'Aisha said, "Doesn't a lady feel ashamed for presenting herself to a man?" But when the Verse: "(O Muhammad) You may postpone (the turn of) any of them (your wives) that you please,' (33.51) was revealed, " 'Aisha said, 'O Allah's Apostle! I do not see, but, that your Lord hurries in pleasing you.' "

Why do you believe such a man

Martinez19:
Dreams are simply mental scenery or images created by your brain while asleep. Dreams have no meaning or bearing to real events. Dreams are not to be taken seriously. Do not listen to any dream interpreter or dream guru. You might see yourself rich in the dream but that doesn't mean you will be rich, you might see yourself poor in your but that doesn't mean that you are poor or will be poor. Please, ignore dream interpreters and ignore dreams.

Coincidence, though rearly happens, is responsible for a 'dream coming to pass.' Most of the dreams that do come to pass don't unfold accurately in real life as depicted in the dream. Dreams are mostly due to your day-to-day experiences and thoughts, especially those that you are preoccupied with and spent large amount of time on eg. I remember reading calculus throughout a week and in my sleep, I saw a calculus related dream. Dreams can be very misleading if you choose to make them the compass of your life ie. you turn to them for direction.

Countless people have seen their god answer their prayer in a dream but we all know the fate of these people---- unanswered prayers. I a nutshell, don't attach any significance to Dreams, don't see them as having any bearing on real life outcomes, and they are simply mental scenery or images created by your brain while asleep nothing more, nothing less.

You lack spiritual knowledge.

JesusSonOfGod:
Ignorance is when you are born again and you have the Holy Spirit living in you, but you still think you need deliverance.

The deliverance you need is the knowledge of the word of God, understanding the finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ. Feed on His word. Feed on the word of God frequently and you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

2 Corinthians 5 :17, Hosea 4:6, John 8:32.....

What is the meaning of deliverance ?

If can answer that ,it would mean you know what you are posting

An end time sign

Matthew 24:11-14 KJV
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. [12] And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
[13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

EngrBello:
The Hadith you just quoted is fake and fabricated, a typical example of what i'm talking about
Moreover,you're are not in a pole position to describe Muhammed for me or to any other Muslims..
You're not in a position to describe hadith....Real hadith were ; Mutafakun alehi

You should try to learn more about your fabricated religion and the benefits westerners are gaining from it.

If you disapprove of something especially a written document , the onus is on you to produce the correct document.
Pls paste the correct version of that hadith for your people to read or may be you are saying Sahih Bukhari is a fake hadith.

Who should be in a pole position if not a christian. Did Allah not inform your Muhammed to get understanding from the Jews and Christians when he is confused on a matter or what is revealed to him ?

Allah SWT says:
فَإِنْ كُنْتَ فِى شَكٍّ مِّمَّآ أَنْزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ فَسْئَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتٰبَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ ۚ لَقَدْ جَآءَكَ الْحَقُّ مِنْ رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ
"So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters."
(QS. Yunus: Verse 94)

Why must your allah take the righteous and sinners to hell to suffer them b4 judgement day. Is hell a resting place or place of torment?

I hope you don't apply "Taqiyyah" on the hadith below like your quoted post above:
Volume 2, Book 23, Number 341:

Narrated Abu Sa'id:
Sahih Bukhari
The women requested the Prophet, "Please fix a day for us." So the Prophet preached to them and said, "A woman whose three children died would be screened from the Hell Fire by them," Hearing that, a woman asked, "If two died?" The Prophet replied, "Even two (would screen her from the (Hell) Fire. " And Abu Huraira added, "Those children should be below the age of puberty. "

This is means the children will surely go to hell , righteous or not and shall be a protection for their mother who must go and meet them in hell.

If you should die as a Muslim , you will go straight to hell and be tormented till the judgement day , even if it takes another 1000 years to come.

Again , I want to know why you believe Muhammed was saying the truth .

muhammed50:
No! Except the sinners!

But that is not what Muhammed said. He said he ( Muhammed ) will be the first to come out hell by a bridge with his followers:

Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The people said, "Yes." He said, "These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons. The Water of Life will be poured on them and as a result they will grow like the seeds growing......


The first paragraph says that "only this nation ( Muslims ) will be left with its hypocrites.... , meaning all Muslims and Muhammed will be the first to cross the bridge laid in hell to being them out.

Why ?

Let us forget about that. What makes you to think Muhammed can be trusted ?

muhammed50:
Note: the first thing is to believe in Allah. On the day of judgement, the sinners(they also believe) will first be in Hell, then they will ask for the intercession of the prophet(SAW) on their behalf. Then Allah(the most forgiving) will grant the intercession and forgive them.
The sinners(they also believe) will also be in the paradise but after a fixed period in Hell. For your info, All sins are forgiving except disbelieving and associating partners with Allah.

You believe all Muslims will first go yo hell , but will be forgiving on the judgement day?

EngrBello:
To a novice or a self delude people,Islam means nothing to them but Disgusts.
To a Well-Mannered and Prudent People,Islam means a Total Way of life not just only PEACE(as of the Arabic context meaning) and by regarding GOD(called ALLAH in Arabic) as only One,ever living and Self Sufficient.
Foundation of the Religion
Right Guided >> Monotheistic >> Islam
°The First Right Guided Man on Earth is ADAM and his a prophet according to Islam Doctrine.He preaches No religion directly, other than GOD is one,don't sin,don't kill and don't do bad things.Prophet Adam emphasizes on punishment and rewards for everyone deeds and he was giving 5 commandments. Adam was a prophet of the Right Guided(Islam).He has a successor Called Seth whom preaches the same thing as his father does. Prophet Seth was a Great Ancestor to Prophet Idriss(Enoch).
When God sent Nuha,he preaches the same thing and lay more emphasis that GOD is one.He warned them against worshiping idols.
Abraham came,he preaches 'believe in One God' and worship God only... Monotheistic Started! Abraham preachings only endorse Islam as he lay more emphasis that GOD is Only One in contradiction to any illusional Trinity. ABRAHAM monotheism was practice among his progeny,his decendants and pious people living afterwards...
Isa(Jesus) preach the same monotheism as that of Moses,but there were disputes among Jews and Jesus followers,as of who is the greatest among the two prophet, whereas they're pataner brothers according to islam doctrine( All prophet are partaner brothers)
Christianity doesn't exist during Jesus time but years after his absence.

ISLAM CONDUCTS & VIEWS
Anyone with Good deeds shall enter Paradise.
Good deeds are:
Self Discipline
Abstaining from Unholy deeds
Abstaining from Adultery
Abstaining from Killing or Destruction of others property.
Abstaining from Stealing.
Abstaining from Gay/Lesbianism and incest.
Abstaining from any form of sins,that surely will give you conscience e.g ·Gambling ·Abusing ·Exploiting ·Hating ·Lieing ·Greediness etc.

500 years plus with the reigning of Islam which Prophet Muhammed (Best Man of all Mankind and the last prophet/nabiy) brought...A team called CRUSADERS was formed.
In early 1030 AD the crusaders,mainly composed of Infidels, Byzantine,Roman empires, fake jews and power thirsty people.They had an hostile towards ISLAM ,in such a way that they feel very very hungry for political power.They want Access back to many village & cities where ISLAM has conquered with Preaching and War(Islam fought against injustice people who govern them badly) ISLAM doesn't conquer with war except against those people were very strong infidels whom their wicked leaders collect over 90% of Tax.Islam fought against them.as preaching can't win their heart.with that ,Islam freed many cities from bondage.People love it and adopt it as a Total way of life.That's how islam start to Widespread.
THE INFIDELS
Europeans have known the power
of Islam themselves for it once
ruled part of Europe, and they
know that true Islam is opposed to
their activities. From the very
outset, therefore, they have sought
to remove this obstacle from their
path by disparaging Islam .
They have resorted to malicious
propaganda.The agents of
imperialism are busy in every
corner of the Islamic world
drawing Muslims youth away from Us
with their evilpropaganda.
They are destroying Islam!
Agents,both foreigners sent by the imperialists and natives employed
by them ,have spread out into
every village and region of Islam (Iran,Nothern Nigeria, Pakistan,Afghan, Ethiopia,Egypt,Serbia and Somalia) and are leading our children and
young people astray.
[b]Their Secret doings
They've altered many Hadiths (sayings/words from prophet Muhammed) but can't alter the Mighty Quran because majority of Muslims have memorized it in the original context language(Arabic).
These Groups of Infidels have wide access to alter and have edited the English Meaning Quran, Hausa Meaning Quran, Hindu Quran meaning, French Language Quran and some other local language which Quran can be Translated into. With this, they convinced and brainwashed Muslims youth(right from infant) where Islam has widespread most. These Europeans Satanic Agents, teaches them that killing is jihad,they produced bomb for them secretly,teach them how to manage and detonate it. They teach them to destroy their lands and resources(all in the name of kafiri's/unbeliever , kills and blackmail their justice leaders.They gave them false hope of entering paradise by committing suicide..whereas God has already warn against killing and committing of suicide,anyone who do so shall face the hell as his/her abode.
In reality, The Western World…
have an enmity toward all
religion , and in particular with
greater hostility toward Islam. This
enmity toward Islam is especially
pronounced and many times is the
result of a well-thought-out scheme
the object of which is first to shake
the foundations of Islamic beliefs
and then gradually to demolish the
structure of Muslim society.
PROOF FOR WAR AGAINST ISLAM

In the early times...
The Messenger of God said: A time will Come, Where all strong
nations will/are about to flock against
the Muslims from every
horizon, just as hungry people
flock to a kettle. The Disciples said: O Messenger of God, will we be few
on that day? He said: No, you will
be many in number, but you will
be scum, like the scum of a flash-
flood, without any weight, since
fear will be removed from the
hearts of your enemies, and
weakness (wahn) will be placed in
your hearts. They inquired: O Messenger
of God, what does the word wahn
mean? He said: Love of this world,
and fear of death.

Centuries After,
[color=#000000]Pope Urban II preaches the First
Crusade at the Council of Clermont "I, or rather the Lord, beseech you as Christ's heralds to publish this
everywhere and to persuade all
people of whatever rank , foot-
soldiers and knights , poor and rich, to
carry aid promptly to those Christians
and to destroy that vile race from the lands of our friends . I say this to
those who are present, it meant also for those who are absent. Moreover,
Christ commands it" [/color]

Now, a well-thought-out scheme the object of which is first to shake the foundations of
Islamic beliefs, but, medieval Christian Crusades were not A form of imperialism, but rather Western
imperialism was a new form of the Crusades
Propagating Imperialism in Muslim lands
But its a mask for the crusading spirit.

It is not surprising, therefore, to
find a great similarity between the
medieval view that it was safe to
speak ill of Muhammad because his
Propitious exceeded whatever ill
could be spoken of him, and the
tone of nineteenth-century
missionary tracts which exhorted
the Muslims in India to abandon
the religion which they had
been taught. There were even
echos of the old crusading spirit.
When the French occupied Algeria
in 1830, they declared that they
had in mind 'the greatest benefit to
Christendom'. Similarly, Canning's
solution to the 'problem' of the
Ottoman empire was to bring it
into modern Europe under
Christian tutelage. When the
French invaded Tunis in 1881, they
considered their action a sacred
duty 'which a superior civilisation
owes to the populations which are less advance...They are infidels!

NOTE There are no real source again in wikki or Google to read True Islamic articles,as it has been diluted with fake and fabricated stories by the westerners(whom were the administrators of wikki and Google's).

Things to reason;,
When do English Start to Exist as a language (for,they claimed to have know it all about Christian and blackmailing Islam)

English,Spanish are the world biggest Slaves Traders, but they gave people a misconception about how slavery is related to ISLAM.
Marriage in Islam wasn't related with Paedophilic acts at all, but these people gives out fake stories and manipulate some folks in order to blasphem and demotivate people from Islam.

Anticipate for my Next Article : MARRIAGE IN ISLAM

What do you mean by Islam conduct and views ?

Muhammed and demon Gabriel did not say the Muslims should abstain from adultery and stealing be4 they would make heaven:

Volume 4, Book 54, Number 445:
Narrated Abu Dhar:

The Prophet said, "Gabriel said to me, 'Whoever amongst your followers die without having worshipped others besides Allah, will enter Paradise (or will not enter the (Hell) Fire)." The Prophet asked. "Even if he has committed illegal sexual intercourse or theft?" He replied, "Even then."

For your info, you are only deceiving yourself with those lies above .

salvation101:
who says the law was never God's intention from d beginning? Right from Adam God has always given laws. He asked dem not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Dat is a law. Our God is not a lawless God. There is no problem with the law Paul the apostle said "the law is Holy Roman7:12. David said it was perfect Psalm 19:12. The problem has never been with the law but with the nature of man. The law reveals all the flaws in man and we couldn't attain perfection by merely trying to keep the law.
Wat grace does it dat it empowers us to to keep the laws of God, dis time around its no more a struggle but comes naturally. The Bible said whosoever is born of God sinneth not but God's seed remains in him and so he cannot sin because he is born of God. The Holy Spirit in us is gives us thr ability to keep all the law of God.
If u say the law was abolished (wch Jesus categorically said he didn't come to abolish) den why is there still a priesthood in Christ? Why did Heb7:25 say he is our high priest dat liveth to makes intercession for us? Why do we still need an highpriest (who is in charge of ceremonial law)? The Holy communion replaced the passover, the Holy Spirit baptism replaced thr feast of pentecost and so on. There was simply a paradigm shift..

God bless you.

Can you imagine a christian saying the law was a mistake from the beginning?

Does grace cancel obedience to God's commandments?

solite3:
[ I was in your shoe before until I realized how a pityful wretched sinner I am in need of mercy, I became a changed man haven received the gift of grace from the Lord.
When I mentioned is word, I wasnt talking of the ten commandment.
His word includes his teaching and power, his revelational knowledge.

Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

The word of God brings about growth and maturity to the believer.


John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Everyone who is bornagain is dependent on God's word just as men depend on food for survivival.

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


The fulfillment of the whole law is love but this love cannot be generated by the human heart.
This love is generated by the Spirit of Jesus that dwells in a man who is bornagain, it is spiritual,human intervention is not involve.
Did you learn how to commit sin? It is your nature. Same way if you are bornagain nobody teaches you righteousness, you just become righteous because it is the nature of Jesus in you.






Did you read chapter one? Was it written to Jews or gentiles? Can a man keep the whole law without breaking anyone? If a man breaks just one what does it make him?

Do you even know what the law of liberty means? Do you know when you depend on the law your faith becomes dead? Was Abraham faith a dead faith or a living faith? If living which law made Abraham to have a living faith? What of Rahab the harlot?


Answer these questions and it will give you an insight on the book of James.

Abraham was holy because God told him to:

Genesis 17:1 KJV
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

If you have faith in Jesus Christ , you must obey his commandments , don't gossip, don't lie, don't fight, don't lust,don't steal etc .

Jesus said that his death does not mean cancelation of the laws.

Oracle16:
Nobody says when you are under grace you can sin. In fact, under grace, you are given power to overcome sin. Without the Holy Spirit, there sins you can never overcome, some addiction like, fornication, drug abuse.... But when you understand and you have the Holy Spirit and you live by His lead, you overcome such sins because they don't have power over you. You can only overcome such sin under grace.

Also note this, no matter how you try to live under the law of 10 commandments, no matter how you are able to keep it, you will not make heaven. You only make heaven when you have the Righteousness of God. When you have it, you have power to overcome sin and when you sin, you feel sorry about it and repent immediately.

Exactly , very perfect. That is what I have been telling the OP right from the biginning of the thread.

Now that you have the power of the Holy Spirit , how come a person can commit sin? Is sin not a transgression of the law?
That means you are to keep the laws .

When the Bible is talking about grace and laws , it is for the Jews , the Pharisees who are following the laws and refused to accept Jesus as the Messiah and those who accepted but felt circumcision , not eating pigs ,killing animals for remission of sins etc are still necessary. Like women during menstruation cannot enter the church and so on. That is what it is meant by grace not that we must not obey those moral laws like " thou shall not steal", which many born again are committing in their respective places of work and say " it is by grace, no one can be holy".

We must be holy , as our Father in heaven is holy , and it is not automatic , but by following the warning of the Holy Spirit.
When driving at times , someone who is at fault will curse you and you retaliate or say "back to sender", but the Holy Spirit will convince you until you start praying for forgiveness and reverse the curse.

A Christian must know the laws and keep them after been born again and spirit filled.

Oracle16:
I am not suprise that after all the scriptures sent here, you are still not convinced. Even some general overseers still don't understand... Only the Holy Spirit can teach you. Why not pray and say to God, if this is true, make me understand. Ask Him to help you to know Him more. He will. Before now, when I hear this preaching, it flies out of my ears because it was not making sense. I use to think people who preach this truth needed deliverance.

Note brother, things of God does not make human sense. You need supernatural understanding to understand.

Can you explain these scriptures to me?

1 John 2:1-7 KJV
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: [2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. [3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. [5] But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. [6] He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. [7] Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

bloodofthelamb:
I can sense and feel your zeal for the law of GOD, just like apostle Paul had for the law before his conversion to the path of grace.

I pray the LORD leads you to the cross of CHRIST His Son.

Most of you don't understand the Bible and God.

Most of the Pastors and Christians that are committing sins did not give their lives to Jesus , is that not so?

There have been many revelations concerning heaven and hell. All of them talk about 1 out of 1000 going to heaven.
There was also a revelation about a mega church were during their convention , a revelation was guven that if Jesus should come then , only 3 out of about 4 millions would be raptured. Among these are Pastors and regional Pastors who will not be raptured , are they not under grace, have they not accepted Jesus as their Lord and Personal Saviour?

Grace requires from us higher standard of living.
Laws says until you kill , you have not committed murder, grace says when you are angry with your neighbour without a cause , you are murderer.

Grace means accepting Jesus and be born again and sin no more. Should there be a sin , ask God for forgiveness and don't continue in it and expect grace to abound.
Jesus told us not to lust after a woman and conclude you have not committed sin because you have not taking her to bed.
Is that not a law requiring a higher standard of holiness from us?

God told us not to curse our father or mother . Does grace means you are not under that law? Does grace makes us automatically Immune against sin? No.
It means God has opened a new account for you , no more inheritance of your ancestral sins and death .

Goshen360:
Some of you really need to unlearn what you have been taught for year. Teachings that have imbeded traditions of men are the most to do away with and unlearn.

Who taught you there's moral, ceremonial and sacrificial laws?

The law is a one package that was delivered as a whole and that's why breaking one is breaking all.

So when Paul the Apostle taught believers are not to follow the law of Moses, was he only talking about 10 commandments or sacrificial or ceremonial law? No! He was talking about the whole. The whole law including the 10 commandments IS abolished for those who are in Christ

You don't need the 10 commandments to tell you to do the right thing or not, you need the holy spirit that works within your conscience and renewed mind. There was no 10 commandments before Joseph flew from Potiphar wife, there was no commandments before Enoch walked with God, Noah was a just man, Job etc

God who gave the Ten commandment made mistake be giving it , is that not so?
Since Joseph , Enoch and Noah didn't read any law , God should not have botherd himself writing the Ten Commandment and other laws.

We know more than God , don't we?

solite3:
The law is good but the problem is the human nature.
The human nature is completely sinful and rebellious.
Sin was passed upon all men by Adam, it is a sickness that destroys the soul, the law on the other hand only enlighten us about this sickness but not the solution.
The solution to sin was provided by God when he sent Jesus to die for our sin so that if any man believes, put his 100% trust and rely on him on him would not perish but have everlasting life.
By faith in Jesus we become 100% righteous and become holy, and by living according to his word we are preserved in him.
This is the gospel in a nutshell.

From your second to your last paragraph, what is the meaning of living according to his word......?
Are you not talking about the commandments of God?

The Bible says:

James 2:10-14,21-26 KJV
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point , he is guilty of all. [11] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. [12] So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. [13] For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. [14] What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? [21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? [22] Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? [23] And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. [24] Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. [25] Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? [26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

bloodofthelamb:
Asking a sinner to live a holy life is like asking a lion to feed on grass like a sheep...

preaching and asking a sinner not to sin through laws is like you asking a bird not to fly... What a sinner needs is a recreation, which only faith in CHRIST can wrought. Laws won't do you or me any good.

You are wrong.
There are more than 200 millions of Christians world wide who have faith in Jesus but are habitual sinners.

Just like take time and understand what I am saying.

I accept we all need to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and be Baptised in the Holy spirit, but we must by the power of the Holy Spirit live a holy life.
To live a holy life , you must obey God's commandments.

I am wrong?

bloodofthelamb:
Weldone! Proclaim more the grace of the Living God in Christ the Lord.

Grace does not mean lawlessness.
Accepting Jesus as the saviour is faith . That faith in him grants you grace to make heaven provided you continue to live a holy life.
Refusal to accept his death and relying on the keeping of the laws is lack of faith and no grace.

So , grace without obeying the laws or commandment of God is forfeiture of grace and gift of hell.

The Bible says :
Romans 6:15-16 KJV
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. [16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Grace grants you the Holy Spirit to overcome temptation and run from sin by obeying the moral laws.

Oracle16:
Let me help post those scriptures here . .

Romans 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;


Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 3:27 New International Version

Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith.
28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law

You are very wrong.

What is the law ? Is this verse below a law or not?

Matthew 5:27-28 KJV
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: [28] But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

OtemAtum:
The answer is a capital NO. While some beings created by God Almighty are trying to be relevant, they become talkatives. Examples of such creatures are Allah, Mazda, Yahweh, Moloch, Eshu, etc. It is really a weakness on the part of these aforementioned beings. Rather than they going about in the universe to explore as God Almighty sent them(check Adspiramen chapter 2), they were busy making noises anf empty threats that can't even affect a mosquito, but can affect humans who are scared.
God never threaten or make noises like Allah, Yahweh, Enlil, Mazda and all the rest of these gods of religions we have today. God is PEACE and you can find God as soon as you find peace of mind.

You are an agent of the devil , you and your master shall soon be thrown into the bottomless pit.

OtemAtum:
God has never lived in a coffin because God Almighty is not one dude whom we have to carry about on our shoulders from one insignificant portion of the earth to another. It is disgusting and ridiculous that some people worship a god(Yahweh) who is confined to a coffin(Ark of Covenant so-called) and was carried about by some dudes. What a burden!
The universe contains trillion times trillion times trillion times infinite number of planets and God is as large as the whole multiverse so, how can it fit into one coffin in a very insignificant portion of a very insignificant planet? That's definitely not God Almighty, but one of the gods worshipped by human beings.

ONCE AGAIN, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TIME WHEN GOD ALMIGHTY WAS CARRIED ABOUT IN A COFFIN.

You are a demon incarnate , an enemy of righteousness , trying to divert people away from God and win souls for the devil. You shall fail , in Jesus name.

Oracle16:
NO! It means, you have to be spiritually minded. Staying connected with the Holy Spirit. Not grieving the Holy Spirit and allowing Him lead and direct us.

When we mistakenly fall into sin, we don't have to waste time in asking for mercy. You no longer have to sacrifice any animal to be cleansed just like it was under the law, but repent of it and ask for forgiveness.


Galatians 5 :22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Romans 8 :13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

1 Peter 1 :
New Living Translation

God the Father knew you and chose you long ago, and his Spirit has made you holy. As a result, you have obeyed him and have been cleansed by the blood of Jesus Christ. May God give you more and more grace and peace.


◄ 2 Peter 1:3
New International Version

His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.

◄ Hebrews 4:16
New International Version

Let us then approach God's throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

Is it not Gods laws that makes you to be aware you have sinned ?
Where there is no law there is not sin.

The grace expects us to keep the laws and do more :

Matthew 5:18-22 KJV
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[21] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
[22] But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

This verse 22 is called what? Is that not a law , with higher standard ?
Grace does not mean the laws are not to be followed , it gives us the power to overcome them by the power of the Holy Spirit that lives in us.
The Holy Spirit will empower you and caution . He will remind you of those laws . This is grace, empowerment. But if you commit any of those sins , you can quickly as for forgiveness, that is grace.
Before grace until you sleep with a woman and have carnal knowledge of her , you have not committed adultery but with the advent or period of grace , looking at a woman with lust, is a sin , that is law and higher expectation of holiness.

Grace says to be angry with anyone without a reason is murder , b4 grace until you kill b4 you are deemed a murderer.

You must keep some laws but not those sacrifices of blood .

Jesus said so. He said our righteousness must exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees.
The Pharisees are keepers of the law and counted for them as righteousness .Jesus ( giver of grace ) now said our righteoness must exceed those of Pharisees.

Word of Jesus is final .

Ferisidowu:
very simple accepting to the depth of your soul that the law condemns and doesn't justify ,,, that its originally for the worst sinners so that they will be accountable to God, and knowing that even if you were perfect regarding the law like

Paul said "concerning the righteousness by the law I was blameless" but still he had to accept Christ ... Paul called the righteousness by the law self righteousness Phil 3;6-9

if Paul needed to accept Christ ,,,, then his own righteousness is like a curse ... its like Cain's sacrifice , who brought sacrifice to God from the ground which God has cursed .
so self righteousness is bringing righteousness to God from ourselves which God has condemned in Adam --- for in Adam we all sinned, and the wages of sin is death, and also in Adam all are condemned then definitely if I bring my own righteousness I will be condemned like Cain ....


so in other words looking unto Jesus means going to God asking for his spirit , continual fellowship with him in obedience love holiness for without holiness no man shall see God ,, , but holiness isn't keeping the law, holiness is living to God,,,,

if holiness were keeping the law which God knows wouldn't justify us ,, then Christ died in vain

Does that mean you cannot sin because the Holy Spirit is living in you?

Ferisidowu:
my believe is that *1 keeping the law doesn't justify me ..... am sure you agree to this ...

and if the law doesn't justify me, it's altogether useless for my salvation ...

if you claim that we are justified by God in grace through the blood of Jesus by faith and also say that I may not get to heaven (be justified) if I break one of the laws then you contradict yourself it becomes obvious that grace is no more grace and works is no more works rom 11;6

works is keeping the commandments its either I am justified by it or am justified by faith in Christ
it can't be both ...

you can't preach Jesus and the law ... that's why Paul rebuked the Galatians .... the law is meant for you to see your weaknesses and run to Jesus ....

works is not of faith .....

there are many sins we commit ignorantly e.g doing things that wrong our friends without us knowing it, condemning someone which ,James talks about , evil thoughts , using Christian liberty anyhow ... not bringing disciples , swearing in the court of law, little doubts , not obeying the word completely etc ....

Rom. 3:20 - "Therefore by the deeds of the law there SHALL NO FLESH BE JUSTIFIED in his
sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin."..

the law only gives me knowledge of sin

also
the law is not of faith either you live by the law ...
or you live by faith
gal 3:10-13

also

◄ 1 Timothy 1:9

New International Version
We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,

then it becomes obvious that for humans to have the law they themselves are wicked, vile , sinners

so is the law made for perfect men
as long as you keep looking at the law the more you affirm that the law is good , the more you testify that you are bad vile and wicked ...

but we knowing that we are wicked dropped the law and look unto Jesus... seeing that the law can't help us more than to condemn us ...

why should I hold unto what makes me a sinner , have you forgotten that where there is no law there is no transgression...??

How can you drop the law and look unto Jesus ?

Ferisidowu:
although am not satisfied or better still I don't understand .... should we leave this issue?

What is your believe or opinion?

frosbel2:
My friend get lost, there is no eternal damnation for our souls.
By the way, I am talking from experience.

You need deep deliverance.

Ferisidowu:
sorry I didn't see it just summarize it for me .. that's all and we call it a day

We must keep all the laws except those relating to shedding of animal blood and ceremonial laws and believe in the grace of death of Jesus on the cross.

frosbel2:
What kind of religion will make you hate your own family to follow a MAN called JESUS when the Almighty God never commanded such.

“If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple " - Luke 14:26

I am a personal victim of this madness that Deeperlife caused, brainwashing me as a gullible teenager to forsake my own father and other family members who were against my Deeperlife membership. They made me feel that it was a noble cause to 'reject' my own family all in the name of making a MYTHICAL heaven and avoiding a so called HELLFIRE.

This is exactly how communist and Nazi societies functioned in the old days, where their religion and doctrine took preeminence over family and personal welfare. The Mormons, Scientologhost, and similar groups also practice this same wickedness, breaking up families and destroying well established bonds of love.

Sorry, we will not hate our own fathers or mothers or wives or children or siblings for JESUS - Absolutely NO WAY and NO CHANCE in hell its ever going to happen.

Why is your case different?
Why haven't others forsaken or hate their family members?
How many family have told you that Deeper Life doctrine has scattered their marriage or families?

You are preparing an eternal damnation for your soul. It is Unfortunate that you don't know how great your problems are.

mujahid777:
You mean to say that there exists in the Shariah for those who want to remarry a divorced wife,that she has to deliberately marry another man first before going back to her husband
When will you people stop lying
Now back to the question at hand:
Did Yahweh permit divorce?
YES or NO.

No

Ferisidowu:
but then the Bible says cursed is everyone who doesn't continue in the law .... so the holy spirit can't tell me to obey the law because its necessary to my salvation ...

I'm not saying we aren't to obey the law ...I'm saying even if I obey it perfectly (if it were possible) ... God won't justify me for that ...
if God will justify me for that ... Christ is dead in vain

I have answered this before.

Ferisidowu:
circumcision , washing after mensuration , not eating certain meats , offering of lamb for sacrifice not eating with gentiles

the fact is that ceremonial civil and 10 commandments sum up to give you the LAW

I have commented on this before that those ones are no longer necessary.

Part of the works of the Holy Spirit is to lead us to all truth. He would reveal those part of the laws to be kept and those not necessary.

Ferisidowu:
can we really keep the whole law perfectly? do you know the whole law includes the ceremonial laws

Give me example of ceremonial laws