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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:11am On Aug 30, 2021
CapitalCee:
But Bruno do join the midfield na, the issue is we still needs to score. Most of our goals come through him even on his off day
We're not going to score if we're struggling to create quality chances. Do you guys prefer the team suffering for some player's personal glory?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:07am On Aug 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
Bruno was making runs like Inzaghi will do...
They said he's a forward now. So when opposition fans comes up with this point, they should just agree o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:06am On Aug 30, 2021
CapitalCee:
Neves and Moutinho where free because Wolves were playing 3 at the back and our wingers James and Sancho were ineffective. So Bruno should troble 5 defenders alone? How can he link Midfield and attack when the Midfield is non existent. So Bruno should go and get the ball from Varane/Maguire then go ahead and trouble Wolves back 5? While Fred and Pogba will be eating salad
He should go and get the ball from Fred and Pogba
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:05am On Aug 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
I just pointed it out to CapitalCee. Fred was dragged all over the pitch by Traore leaving Pogba alone. If Bruno maintained his position, one of Moutinho or Neves would have had to sit back or one of their CB push up freeing up space for our attackers but no, Bruno must be the furthest man forward for whatever reason.
The reality on ground now is that these are the people we have at the club. Same way I have made my peace with the manager. I've always maintained that Fred can't be the DM and if he has to be there because there's no one else, then the team should adjust to that. I'll be glad to see a Bissouma but if that doesn't happen, then we can't isolate the midfield and expect a miracle. Pogba was jogging at some point. Pep will hardly allow a one on one against players like Traore. It's that simple
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:00am On Aug 30, 2021
olabode89:
On multiple occasions in that game James, Greenwood (when Cavani came on), Bruno and even Sancho were in the midfield area helping out when we were defending.

Of course Fred and Pogba's possession numbers will be high based on how we like to recycle the ball between the pivot CMs and the two CBs.
Lol Pogba now likes to recycle ball with the CBs. There's plenty instances when the midfield held the ball and everyone was running forward hoping for a looped ball and some miracle. Even Bruno that should come closer, collect the ball and create quality chances. That's why Wolves were able to deal with our threat comfortably.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:56am On Aug 30, 2021
CapitalCee:
So Pogba and Fred cant engage Moutinho and Neves to allow Bruno to attack? Are we Burnley? So how are we supposed to scored if all we do is midfield battle royale, who are Neves and Moutinho? May be if we meet Bayern in UCL Cavani, Rashford and Sancho and even CR7 will join to rescue Pogba and Fred because you will be coming up against Goreztker and Kimich. My brother leave matter lol
If that's what the team needs at that moment, then yes they should. That's why it's a team. After all we encourage FBs to get forward and join the attack
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:54am On Aug 30, 2021
CapitalCee:
Hence James which Ole admitted after the match, you are sounding as is Bruno stayed away completely from Midfield, he was there, but at the same time he needs to join the attack
You saw James on Traore at any point or in the midfield? I can't remember seeing this
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:52am On Aug 30, 2021
olabode89:
Another person in the midfield during which phase of play? Because when we don't have the ball 2 out of the 3 forwards behind the CF are usually helping the 2 CMs in the pivot.

It's not Bruno's fault that when we are not playing McFred out midfield us usually found wanting during transition from attack to defense.
Are you sure the midfield is being helped? Pogba and Fred's possession yesterday is almost double that of Bruno.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:49am On Aug 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
This is what we expected to see yesterday.

............................Bruno................................
..............Moutinho......Neves.......................
..............Pogba............Fred...... ...................

If Bruno had occupied that position illustrated above, no way will Neves and Mourinho have the freedom to dictate the play. Bruno left that position and it became a 2 vs 2 midfield battle when in all honesty it was supposed to be 2 vs 3 in midfield.
It wasn't a 2 vs 2 because even Traore was drifting into the midfield
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:47am On Aug 30, 2021
Expert17:
So you have never seen Bruno in midfield??

Midfielders contribute with goals and assists, show me Fred's goal and assists.
I'm sorry but this is dumb
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:45am On Aug 30, 2021
CapitalCee:
My brother, Pogba is finding it difficult becuase Fred was like Wolves 12th man, he cant find his man, he is clumsy, he is poor on the ball and cant control a bag of cement, and surprisingly he is being dribbled every single time. Put Kante or Carrick there Pogba will flourish ala France. Like I said before we need a goal and Bruno us desperate for that he is our go-to-man, you cant deny that Bruno is a team player. This is wolves oo not Barca or Bayern, we simply need to score and Bruno also have to engage their CBs to discourage them from joining the attack. As good as Greenwood is, he is still inexperienced and leaving him at the mercy of Wolves 3 CBs will not work.
Fred can't find his man, yet he's top 3 in attempted passes and successful passes. This is a mystery
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:42am On Aug 30, 2021
olabode89:
Please do!

This Bruno slander is outrageous. My man is bursting his body playing his heart out for the team and you guys are trying to push some flimsy agenda against him.

Please take away his Pks and assists from setplays and let's see if anyone apart from maybe Rashford will come close to him in that team. People fail to notice that in our system Bruno is practically a forward and is regularly involved with our forward press.

Also, have we not been complaining about playing two CMs in the pivot that are not vital in our attack play? Why do we need Bruno to help "combat" other midfielders especially when we play against other teams that utilizes 2 CMs like us.

Lastly the age of having an AM that link the midfield and attack is fast eroding, most teams build up play with their full backs/wing backs, wingers and deep lying playmaker.
If Bruno is a forward then we need another person in that midfield so Bruno can play his forward. It's that simple
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:41am On Aug 30, 2021
Even Messi comes into the midfield to help out, but but
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:35am On Aug 30, 2021
TheLequte:
He generally doesn’t hold on to the ball to create chances with his passes.
Create chances ke? It's just to keep possession. The openings to create chances will come eventually and he will make those passes
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:34am On Aug 30, 2021
olabode89:
VdB to play Kroos role? How many times have you seen VdB turn with the ball or ping long range passes? My man is always acting like a wall and treating the ball like lava.
LMAO na make e no spoil for e hand. I think that's down to confidence. But VDB does this before he joined na. Let's forget about pinging long range passes. He can hold his balls and release to those who can do that like Pogba
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:25am On Aug 30, 2021
TheLequte:
VDB doesn’t keep the ball.
You talking about his quick "make e no spoil for my hand" passes?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:23am On Aug 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
That's why I argued the other day that Rodri will look average in our system whist Fred will look world class in that Man City set up...We rush passes as if we are a relegation threatened team.
Rodri would have been thrown to the bench. Fred will bench him in this out setup
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:23am On Aug 30, 2021
96forever:
Isn’t VdB supposed to be good at that? I mean keeping the ball?
The Coach doesn't want to keep the ball. Maybe he doesn't trust VDB physicality, I'm not sure what the problem is. VDB should be able to play Kroos role. Stay close to the DM or CDM and occasionally find some great passes. Pogba should not be the one doing this
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:19am On Aug 30, 2021
adisaaowala:
Baba, the truth is that this is a conversation most peeps here arent ready for.

If we remove his goals/assist from setplay and carefully assess his contribution to our overall play ehn....

Make i just stop here sha
Let's just be watching
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:18am On Aug 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
We will have to talk about Bruno away from his goals and assist at some point...
This is why we will always fall short when it matters most. But the next match after the damage has been done, superstar scores hattrick and it's hail Mary
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:17am On Aug 30, 2021
CapitalCee:
Bruno is an ultra attacking midfielder, there are already 4 defenders and a double pivot already, remember James was there to track Traore, even Ole confirmed it. We are left with Greenwood, sancho and Bruno to press wolves and find a goal and the team needs goal, why will Bruno drop back to join the midfield combat? Are we playing for a 0-0? Even Sancho had an offday and Greenwood is only a boy, Bruno must chop that space between the wolves CB to score, and he nearly did. The issue is Pogba was not combative and disciplined enough to cover for Fred clumsiness. I know you will say i am trying to make excuses for Bruno, but Bruno was like the CF/SS in that match and at 0-0 he is the person Ole is banking on to fashion out a goal, i dont see why Neves/Moutinho should overun Fred and Pogba that Bruno must have to come and help them. Mctominay will bravely engage them easily to a stand still.
You answered me here. I'm not sure every other thing is necessary.

However we will be fine when we realize that players are not forbidden to drop into the midfield to steady the ship as it benefits everyone including this star player. Let him be running after imaginary balls in the opposition box when Pogba that should supply him is not finding space
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:13am On Aug 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
Another perspective...I noticed we improved too and thought to myself that maybe Ole told the players to relax and keep the ball more...
This is my point here but people think I'm trying to defend Fred. Keeping the ball masks helps the team a lot in many ways. Less chasing for the team
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:12am On Aug 30, 2021
Expert17:
This one fit drag anybody because of Fred grin grin
I'm not responsible for what your comprehension o. Anytime I post these things, you think I'm exonerating Fred, but e no concern me
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:10am On Aug 30, 2021
CapitalCee:
Pogba could not get a foothold on the midfield however, he cannot account for a launched clearance from wolves which Fred could not control under absolutely no pressure, he simply cannot find his man, he cant recieve any ball passed to him, he was out of sync with the game entirely, ok mark kwanu, no way Neves and Moutinho were running rings over him, bypassing him like he os not there. I am not exonerating others of blame but Pogba recieves balls finds his man well and better even under pressure. For example Our game Vs Villareal it was Pogba/Mctominay pivot, they did not overunn our midfield infact Mctominay was our MOTM.
Okay I see Fred was the cause.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:41am On Aug 30, 2021
At a time when Wolves were all over our midfield, being physical and all, the team could have done better to keep the ball and pass around, making wolves team tire out and frustrated. But they were always in a hurry to get forward, losing the ball easily.

What exactly is Bruno's role in the midfield?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:33am On Aug 30, 2021
melodyogonna:
Lmao, setups people dey bring here dey make me question weda they watch Man Utd games
Like after all we've been through grin

Like I said two days ago, that double pivot is very important, especially against difficult opponents. Pogba should not be in that double pivot position. There are no benefits in putting him there
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:27am On Aug 30, 2021
CapitalCee:
Fred was so determined to gift Wolves an opening goal all first half. Neves and Moutinho outthought him throughout the game
Fred, Pogba and Bruno in the midfield. What did the others do to steady the midfield aside losing balls?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:03pm On Aug 29, 2021
patrickmuf:
At least I never see any Ice Cold Cunt comment...

Martial must have done considerably well.
He actually did
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:58pm On Aug 29, 2021
adebayo201:
cheesy angry grin grin grin

Why are you like this?? cheesy grin
Watin I do na cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:56pm On Aug 29, 2021
patrickmuf:
Making a case for McFred? We need a player who can receive the ball under pressure, hold on to it and lay a pass. None of McFred can do that.
Making a case for 2 very disciplined CMs or CDMs.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:55pm On Aug 29, 2021
We can't have the full backs bombing forward and the midfield not strong enough to cover them. It's a disaster waiting to happen
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:53pm On Aug 29, 2021
adebayo201:
Your club coaching crew cheesy cheesy



How far with J. Sancho's performance today? He seems too bit rusty with his decision making and he is a seems he played under an unseen forces. lipsrsealed cheesy
They said he's injured abi this is the first game. No comments from me. We can probably blame it on Fred and all the other scapegoats cheesy

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