₦airaland Forum

Fawklicant:
Oga stop trying to sound half smart. You sent me a link about fuel cell technology, a completely different approach to ICE. What is this one saying? It is just like bringing up space travel when we are still trying out helicopter travel.I studied a lil of fuel cell technology in my undergraduate years so note that the document has no bearing with what we are trashing out here. That is a technology that is still many years from maturity, a paradigm shift.

The amount you are brandishing here was not even spent by just one entity, stop trying to win an argument and get educated with the facts. I have no interest in winning an argument with you, all I care is to reduce the amount of ignorance by at least a factor of ONE.

We are discussing R& for ICE engines, let us keep it within scope.

I know what I sent you, I was trying to steer you to the fact that these research cost money, research into ICE cost more as its whats trending an they are looking for ways to reduce capacity but increase power.

tdayof:
I know BOSCH. I can tell you BMW manufactures brake pad. I have got friends on internship in BMW Shenyang who claimed so. A lecturer once told me he works on a break pad and Tyre sososo research there.

I bet by now you just realized BMW do not manufacture Brake Pads, they also do not manufacture the ECU used in thier cars, the do not even manufacture the starter Motor

tdayof:
BMW manufacture its brake pads.Obviously Others should have the capability.

Giving other companies chance to manufacture your car part doesn't mean you do not have the capability. As for Innoson it doesn't have the full capability yet and I will consider funding as the issue. Our government should try and invest more in ours.

Plz show me one BMW brake pad on sale, I'm waiting.
Heard of a company called BOSCH??

Fawklicant:
Too much CNN is deceiving this one. Your assertion above is not only preposterous, but ludicrous. Billions of dollars? Hehehe! Bros! Easy on the hashish mehn! Research costs money but nothing out of the ordinary like you make it seem. New machines will not be built, only new moulds for existing machines. It is all about modifying operational principles most of the time and not about complete change of processes,

For example, a 6 cylinder engine vs a 6 cylinder dual inline plug system engine. The former uses 6 plugs with each piston firing a plug per cylinder while the latter uses 12 plugs with each cylinder firing 2 plugs thereby doubling its efficiency. Same base technology(pistons, plugs etal) same production machines, different moulds.

Besides there are numerous ways to fund a research of that scale and it can also be done in partnerships without one party having exclusivity of ownership of the technology.

You dont gerrit do you
check this
https://www1.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/pdfs/28890yy.pdf
this was done 2000, 2005, I was at a show where they exhibited the research so far, guess waht 5 years the already spent £900M,I guess you know howmuch that is.

celestialAgent:
Refer to the response I gave above.

ASININE

Someone already did that for me upstairs,do nt you feel silly yet?
well let me add more, check teh rover 600, its powered by Honda accord Engine,the Rover 75 2000 model is powered by a BMW 5 series Engine,
or do you want to go to the range rover/Jaguar? or the Boeing 747 powered by Rolls Roys Engine? is ur Ignorance clearer to you now?

oluwaahmed:
Do u tink innoson cannot produce engine 4rm scratch? Wat is even der 2 produce engine? Pls go 2 good polys and see wat boys R doin, or even go 2 arts & craft centre 2 see tins urself. Dis guy av u even seen wat a car manufacturin plant looks like b4? Do u tink it's a couple of laborers tightin screws & losin bolts? Why hasn't toyota or Honda established a factory in nigeria? Even Nissan dat is a well known manufacturer is even couplin her cars here in 9ja. Dese brands hav factories in Asia, Europe America & in SA yet dey run 4rm 9ja because of no electricity. Ha! I actually wld luv 2 say more but u sound a Lil unenlightened. Let me operate wit sme1 of d same level of reasonin

He cannot, quote me anywhere, No country in Africa can as it stands, teh required funds for research is too much for most entrepreneurs in Africa, it requires Billions of Dollars.That man has not that kind of money to pay for such research.
Dont forget you also have to build teh machines that will build the Engines.He should start with things as simple as welding machine then I will give your suggestion a thought my friend.

Tedassie:
Lol @embolded

ok...I guess i was a little overzealous in my thoughts. Sorry.

Here:
http://understandsolar.com/solar-powered-trains-future-of-public-transportation/

Ok sorted
The world has changed gone are the days you will just say/assume stuff without proof and expect people 2 just believe you.I do not see solar trains any time soon,mayB in teh next 100 years.Not cost effective

celestialAgent:
We are talking about real production here! If innoson could produce her car parts from the many available local resources, obviously the company will be able to sell forex to CBN for her export proceeds.

Toyota, Benz, Honda, these companies are well recognized not because they import and couple the imported parts but because the produces the engines from scratch. Hence, the reason for the so much glorification.

U might be surprised things as simple as brake system and brake pads are not manufactured by the listed vehicle manufacturers.

Quakertellicus1:
Ah grow up .Zombies do not exist..

I know we invented it for the likes of you

Prophet2015:
Pls kindly help me my Honda accord bulldog give me problem anytime I pack the car for two days whenever i try to start d car it won't start, my battery is OK , I ask a rewire to check d problem he could not solve it pls kindly assist thank.

do you have to jump start it each time?

msogunro:
Anyone know a website that shows up to date satellite images? Want to check out my land.

Google Earth is not up to date.

U can check it on free google, I did mine like that as far as you know the landscape, you wont get a l ive still as you need the google car to go fru there but you can make out the shapes of you build

Quakertellicus1:
No, the parts were made abroad...and then assembled in Nigeria.

It is what companies like PAN, Volkswagen of Nigeria, Steyr, Leyland, and company used to do in Nigeria in the 1970's...they would import CKD (Completely knocked down ) parts into Nigeria and assemble them here into cars.

Solong as oil prices were high back then, and we could spend the dollars back then, we could do that with ease.

But back in 1973....construction work began on Ajaokuta Steel Complex...the idea being that all those car assembly plants would eventually make their cars in Nigeria...and end the imports of CKD parts. That unfortunately did not happen.

When oil crashed in 1982...the parts became too expensive to import , and eventually a new car became expensive in Nigeria...which is when the tokunbo industry began to grow....from the late 1980's on wards.(In 1975...you could get a new car for less than N6000. By 1990..that new car set you back N1million. By 1993....it was basically the government and the very rich that were buying new cars.)

What Innoson was doing was importing CKD parts from China and assembling them under the INNOSON marque. So long as the dollars were flowing in thanks to high oil prices....he could do that easily. But...once oil prices crashed, and the FG was forced to bring in restrictions on forex...that became difficult.

You see why GEJ's automotive miracle was a false mirage? We were just doing what we did in the 1970's....live on a false lie. You cannot have a good domestic car manufacturing industry without sufficient local content.

Innoson is a great man....where his problem was....his Achilles heel if you will ...was in the area of local content.

YOu where making a bit of sense until you made an impute of GEJ then I realized there was a zombieee

celestialAgent:
I'm not supprised.

Innoson has never occured to me as a car manufacturing company but a car part compilation company. Hence the reason for reliance on forex to import the parts to be coupled...

let's not embrace dependency, we need real productions!

Before you quote me, bear in mind that i'm not tribalistic, this is channelled at all Nigerians..

Just to make you realize you are very silly, name one car manufacturer who manufacture %50 of its own part i said %50 to make it a bit easy for you.By the way I aint tribalistic as well cos I aint from the East.

tritt:
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/08/breaking-news-cbn-reinstates-9-banks-suspended-from-forex-market/

Always Eating your Vomit.
Nothing new.

maasoap:
If you can still remember the age of your f*****, your guess should be accurate.

Cos you said democracy was 17 years Old , was shagari the president of Nigeria 17 years ago?
Well I don't blame U.ur dull brain is at it again .

grandstar:
Stop being petty and see insanity for what it is.

GEJ's incompetence allowed a ragtag army of Muslim fanatics grow into a mighty force.

If he had swiftly dealt with them, would the IDP's exist?

Buhari on his part finds it difficult feeding 2million hungry souls. The logistics isn't easy and may lack the managerial skills to achieve it.

Anybody directly affected by the war would prefer PMB who has been able to degrade Boko Haram.

An attack on BH is an attack on the North
Remember that famous statement ? ?

timunstopable:
No Empathy..No Conscience...No Sympathy

Must you politicize everything

Election is over and Gej is not coming back

Deal with it

You seem to forget in a hurry that it was food politics that made the situation worse.
Trailers of food and relief materials had be hijacked by few Northerners . Same ones gaining from the agression of BH.those fotos are they not heartbreaking

maasoap:
Democracy is 17 years old now, are you now saying that Muslim ruling for just one year is cause of their condition? It simply shows that you don't care about them as long as they are northerners. My words for you: just wait, yours is coming.

How old are U?

jelal007:
Ur stupidity,hate and bigotry knows no bound. If u can't be sympathetic to them,the best u can do is STFU. Why are u morons sooo bitter GEJ lost? The man has moved on with his life,u retards need 2do the same. What a shame. Must everything be about Gej and pmb? Or muslims v xtians? Or north v south? If the northerners stopped gej 4rm developing the north,did they also stop him 4rm developing the niger-delta;which he didn't?

Your own stupidity is worse than that of a cow that drink it's own urine .
Did you bother to read the remark he was responding to?was it not the 3rd party who bought in all that you mentioned ?
If U r vexed complain to PMB or better still join the ND to fight BH.

vedaxcool:
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Your hate has consumed you and robbed you of reasoning in a decent manner. GEJ is the reason they are there in the first place. Your sympathy wouldn't change their situation so please keep it like the gold it is to you.

Your brothers where the reasons they where there in the first place . GEJ name to sweet una to call at every negative .

Tedassie:
oh sure there is...google up

I said there was none U say Google up 4 which country ?
I live in a country where rail was born

aresa:
We posted the same news on NL, but unpatriotic and anti Nigerian ipobs cried and yelled that it was propaganda even though they themselves posted the same thing about anamabra rice selling for N9,000....


Hopefully they'll believe their albino twitter bird and useless senator from bayelsa...

Why don't you buy one at said price and post a pic here .

Love Machine:
The money they used to acquire private jets are public money.They should be arrested and prosecuted.

Arrest who Ameachi minister for transportation ? I'm asleep wake me up when that happens

steadyguy101:
my dear there was nothing for Wike to continue, cos amaechi only mounted few pillars and stole the money the entire project.

and said he never knew there was railway in PH

Tedassie:
via (solar) inverters i presume.

None in the world, never heard of one, have you? solar powered passenger train?

Me I do n reach class tay tay with my Ipad siddon for Angle90

tevanso:
u need 2.5 tonnes of y 12.
2 tonnes of 16 mm

I wish I fit get this supply to PH like this.

dukeolumde:
Nope. They made use of standard companies and quality materials from outside the country.
Secondly, the white men in charge was very strict on the standard they wanted.

How will it B powered ?

You build electric train . No power source . Why not stick to diesel powered trains for now so the masses can feel the impact . There is not enough power for domestic use let alone train.we should stick to the diesel powered ones for now until we fix the power situation

popesam1:
http://www.nta.ng/news/technology/20160825-the-first-light-rail-in-nigeria-ready-for-inauguration/#disqus_thread

Is this not old news or am I missing something
To mark his first year in office
Who's first year? ??

Tmoyo:
and when PDP dey power, we have the aviation minister travelling in and out summing up to 750million in a year, we also have the Dasuki the NSA turned atm master, we also have the sudden increament without no gain and the continuous payment of 4billion to service the subsidy...Are u still there, we also have the Fallout immigration exercise where seven applicants died miserably....Mind you they use some certain amount to service the dollar in their own favour....If na PDP...It can only be corruption

And how does this your long epistle relate to the topic at hand . U 4 just created your own thread make we know say U get issues mtcheeeeew

Ok we boarding the pillers still and it's growing
Cost of Y16,Y12 and Y8 has gone up