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NLresidentQS:
Both. A QS protects the interest of his 'client' fiercely. Be it the contractor or the client...

Why should I employ a QS as a client ? cos I can negotiate with a brick layer per block and pay at the end of the day, how does a QC help in reducing that cost? any magic bargaining power I'm missing

NLresidentQS:
Costing of projects, rate and it's dynamics are a specialty that goes far more than 1+1=2.

While some builders/professionals may argue that what is technical about costing? Experience has shown that having a foresight of what your project cost will look like, keeping an eye of the cost so far..has a drastic way of driving down cost in itself.

Many people love 'billing-as-i-build', 'excel-billing', and other quick fix of billing, but in the end, they cannot obviously see any relationship between items.

The quantity surveyor is a cost don. He has a perfect knowledge of the rates in his locality, he understands cash flow, he is best at cost control and price estimation.

Little wonder he is always at logger heads with other professionals who believe he only exist to reduce their profit.

Anyway I'm just saying, engage a quantity surveyor in your project, a honest quantity surveyor, and thank me later.

Can I ask you something, who do you think employs the services of a QS? the workman or the client?

[quote author=decasey post=48715831][/quote]what about if I name my Dog obama, at least he is the most powerful man in the world right about now.

nairayouthcom:
the man self resemble animal..

he must be from calabar


@least a little respect for our Mr P

Quote me and thunder fire you and your generations

keep displaying mumuness

spyder880:
Most of us started to move to HDF when it was noticed that MDF has issues with water. Most times the cabinets in kitchens soak water and lose strength. HDF is like your normal plywood and has been compressed to give the type of rigidity to repel water ingress.

Correct . Cos I just checked our kitchen over here has no eliment of MDF

The rate at which Oil Wells are springing up in the west . They will soon overtake Saudi Arabia

Decodedp:
One thing that impresses me so much is how passionate the igbos are whenever the word biafra is mentioned,

Believe me, this people can change Africa for good if their potential and passion is effectively harnessed.

How i wish Nigerian authorities can invite them to the dialogue table.

Tribalism won't make it work

danowena:
Madam and sir,

From my little research, insects eating MDF and HDF is a no-no. Unless the person was sold something else. These are imported wood that were treated from the factory. In fact if you visit the warehouse, you will experience irritation.

I have lived in houses with these as furnishings, no insect issues like the usual plywood. But we learn everyday as the insects in those areas could be ajebo.

Cc: touchstonengr; spyder880 ,

Do you think insects eat HDF and MDF? Or have you seen where this occurred?

They can't as these are not natural wood they are particles glued together and compressed under unbelievable pressure .

spyder880:
We are doing HDF these days in some of our finishes.

What's the reaction of HDF with water ?

twinskenny:
Yes oo

Nah B say we go do something soon for PHC ohh

peaceland:
Thanks sir,
personal
got mdf, hdf and ndf quotes all hovering around a minimum of 100k per unit.
expected quality benchmark is to be maintenance free or low maintenance for as long as possible.
thanks.

Then MDF is the winner

peaceland:
@gabbytabby, @brag3, @Qc1, @mavverick, @mufutau55, @all
Good day madam/sirs,l
Please I need help and advice on getting wardrobes.
The bills I have been getting has been to say the least fantastically exorbitant.
practically half a million for 4 units!!!
Will appreciate you please sharing practical experiences on how to go about this without breaking the bank; block work in place; space already tiled just to put the wood and that's all
Thanks a lot.

U will need to have a quality you want in mind then you chose the quantity, is this for personal or commercial use?

twinskenny:
Imagine you are so lucky sir..


Still waiting for your invite sir

I just remember chey nah U be Mr wire

MPVGoddess:
Risky if you DO IT YOURSELF

Safe if you DO IT VIA A COMPETENT/HONEST/TRUSTWORTHY Shipping agent

That is the best case scenario.

Worst case scenario, buy in Nigeria. But then you lose control over so many things.

There is a way out though...list the options to you have to ship to Nigeria from your place and the regulars here can tell you if you can ship via them safely or not!

Shipping to Nigeria is not kind to DIY. Shipping to Nigeria is only safe if you pass through a licensed shipping agent because there are murky waters that only the initiated are allowed to wade, and outsiders are punished severely for (going where angels fear to tread aka trying to know more than they ought to know as outsiders)

How can You ship your car without a shipping Agent?

twinskenny:
Borehole na 140k for my area o

Bore hole plus pump in my area nah N95K

Demainman1:
Please what is barrel shipping? Na oil barrel? Pardon my ignorance

yes nah, or U 4got Im frm the Niger Delta ni
Seriously barrel as a container, U know the type use to import caustic soda.U fill it up wiv anything regardless of its weight it same cost to ship.

Ok as promised, the contact for the barrel shipping to Lagos
Fastrax Cargo Ltd, Unit 70, Imperial Trading Estate
Lambs Lane North, Rainham, Essex.
RM13 9XL.

0203 0020 213 | 07946790790 | BBM: 2BE53D74| info@fastraxcargo.com

gabbytabby:
Haba Mmotimo your epistle is misguided. If you need to blame anyone in Nairaland then it needs to be Seun who has chosen not to ban Brabus.

Thank God you are Yoruba and a majority of those affected are too as somethings loose their meaning in the translation.

I will start with the saying Aboro lan so fun omoluabi to ba de inu e adi odindi. Some of the victims end up making you loose the will to talk. Some were warned severally even before they embarked on their project. At what point does the need to give someone a second or sixth or more chances take over the need to protect yourself and your family's savings.

At a point I was saying to myself whatever juju this guy is using is working cos I did not understand the fixation with the need to give chances to a confirmed fraudster it was bordering on lunacy to me.

How do you want hajj to carry matter for head when even the victims are continually dancing with the enemy. One minute they are frienemies chat away and sometimes even socialising and then yawa brakes out and they are showing us their chat and personal info. It was for them to show the way and give Brabus the silent treatment. In the face of Seun not banning Brabus and people ignoring him things will take its natural cause.

Brabus is all that you have said and more but some are guilty of being an enabler.

Unfortunately those that continue to support Brabus should not be surprised when people come for their neck.

madam neva vex I shall call U in few minutes, nor mind me, I dey chase £££

Qc1:
My Oga, I'm thinking of these kitchens set up o...the wahala is where one will get a competent & skills contractor! If its up to me, I may compromise but my I've promised my wife she will never regret staying in naija and the kitchen is my weapon to ensure that.Had I know, I would have shut up!

Better leave her(Madam) to do the choice bit and you the executioner ,works like magic ahah at least 4 me

brag3:
You have done very well Bros. You will be finished very soon.

What do you plan on doing for your kitchens? As you know mine is for commercial purposes so kept it simple with Cheap Budget one worktop and one Cabinet for each kitchen and then standard 4 feet wardrobe for each room.
Some pics below


Landscaping currently costing 550 per sqm for molding and laying but I used granite not stonedust for molding. Final cost likely to be in the region of 550k to 650K. Hoping it's the former not the latter.

For painting I will definitely speak to Gbadebo. He has been very helpful to myself and a few others here who have used his services.

Tiling is the killer and to be honest not sure how one can cut corners on that. You need a good tiler and even the fake Chinese tiles cost an arm and a leg so be prepared to spend BIG on that

Bro wont the inbuilt wardrobe be cheaper?

MMotimo:
Alhaji S, thank you for your response. Ordinarily, I would not come back to respond (I write too much as it is ) but it would look disrespectful since I know you are not my mate and I was raised better.

No one can dip hands in n3xt's pocket to bring out money owed and I do not expect you to. I would be very surprised if he even has current savings (liquid or illiquid) anywhere close to the amounts he owes. Why? Because a man that is perpetually stealing is living beyond his means and would perpetually lack. He first of all has to work on the feelings of personal inadequacies he experiences which he tries to satisfy with a big lifestyle he cannot afford. It is a vicious cycle, the more you steal, the more you lack, the more you crave and the more you steal . . . . that is the cycle right there. It is how the forces of darkness destroy.. . . . . . ask Bernie Madoff.

Everyone, "oju lo n ri oju saanu" meaning let us be sensitive to the plight of the victims and respect their pain by thinking deeply before we post. Better still, just don't post if you have nothing reasonable to say. Even if you cannot refund their money nor apprehend brabus, remember that "eni l'ari, ko si eda ti o mo ola" (nobody knows tomorrow). If you cannot help, do not add to their pain with careless utterances lest a greater evil befall you.

Alhaji, I reiterate that we cannot banish victims' complaints from this thread while allowing their oppressor to post unfettered. That would be unconscionable. If n3xt continues to post here, his victims should be allowed to have their say here. Thank you

To all my mentions, thanks for your comments.

Nice one

NL1960:
Warri no dey carry last. This is why i so much love waffy. Try funny things and see funny things happen to you.

One time No long thing, U do anyhow you see anyhow

mufutau55:
LOL! But I no dey pally with any scammer.
I have told the scammers several times that the repercussion is coming one day... and they told me they got Jesus... wetin else I go do?

Hajji M.

Na true Jesus dey come V soon but some people nah I spirit form dem go see Jesus .

mufutau55:
@MMotimo
@3Strikes
@Brag3
@Mavverick
@All Others

Wow! I am really very surprised about your latest posts. Are you guys really thinking I am in cahoot with Brabus and getting some percentage of his stolen loot? I am very surprised none of you mentioned of my pas involvement in all this affairs both online and offline.
Some of you are even suggesting that I rebuke and ban Brabus from this thread... just because I opened the thread does not mean I have any authority over it.. ONLY Nairaland Admin has this power... I have been a Moderator of this forum before, so I know.
I did not comment in the latest brouhaha because I know my level and I don't need any insult from anyone. I cannot trade barbs.
I do not know Brabus or any of you, we all met here... I have no personal relationship with Brabus...
So I tell you guys frankly, I AM NOT AFRAID OF ANYONE and not Brabus in particular. And I have nothing to hide.
Go to Brag3 thread, you will see how much I have condemned Brabus... I speak as I see it.
I decided not to comment here because as I have said before this thread was not opened for that purpose.
I opened a thread to make people see how bad things had gotten in Properties Forum but nobody cared to move there.

So, If I had posted and said. "Brabus, you are thief please don't post here anymore" would that have solve this case?.. I don't think so.
But if you guy still think I have been a useless Elder, then I think it's time for me to pack up and leave Properties Forum meaning that I have overused my presence and purpose. So I await everyones insults.

I know many people are frustrated because no one wants to lose any money to a fraudsters and not especially a kobo-kobo man like me.
So I can relate to those people.

Thank you.

Hajji M.

Baba we must finish this kobokobo matter ohhhh
U r going nowhere
Oba nor dey go transfer

NL1960:
This is the truth and the fraudsters in Nigeria know this. I have once told people that the luck we have in this country is that people are not allowed to carry guns like they do in the US. I feel the pains of all of you and the millions lost. I also did a project and i had to slave and deny myself for donkey years to save the money to start the project and if after doing all these, then one fraudster thinks he/she is smart, then that person go know say i have lived in AJ/Waffy/Baffy . The person i gave my windows to was trying to be smart. I just laughed and called him up one night and told him certain things. I did not need to call him up a second time before he went to finish the windows. I believe in people working hard for their money as iam also working hard for my money.

For my side nah container 4 koko straight

back2sender:
I will stand on the side of truth, someone reached out to me asking whats my own business sef, was i defrauded? I replied back so must i be defrauded before i speak out?
I am building one small Abule pan house and i know the kind of hunger strike i am under going to save money to continue the projects, so when people gets defrauded i know the pain!
The building elders have spoken out about how displeased they are even if not vociferous but for those elders in Diaspora, disappointment is an under statement.
Even some of the elders here are even saying some Builders are behind brabus travails, How sickening can this be.

U made my weekend I swear . Hunger strike

brag3:
Bros Erico, we dey o.
Finishing stage now so all hands on deck.
How your side bros?

My brother we dey ohhh . My side tight no shaking
The rains are not smiling so I'm looking for a dry week for us to cast lintel and beams . It's not easy for my Mrs as I'm not in town

princemillla:
Did you read the news before vomiting those words. Someone is even trying correct you are speaking gilberish ...

Learn to read and comprehend issues at hand

So what was it he said that was wrong ?
Cos from what he said there was nothing wrong

Bragg
Long time no see.how's the build

kgr8mike:
When crude oil was sold @ $170/ barrel we bought fuel at N97. Now crude oil is sold @ $45/barrel and we are buying fuel at N145

This is disappointment of the first order.

By simple proportion we are supposed to buy fuel @ N25.60k

When the raw material is cheap it is expected that the by-product will be cheap also.

This is disappointment. Fashola in 2014/2015 will see it as a serious disappointment.

Nobody will see fru this especially APC.the cost if fuel went down in the west as a result of cheap oil.

ericsmith:
xpected sumtin evidential i can google on nt sum defensive stunt..

your one lined response summed up you understanding of waht I was talking about, the two cases are online unless you aint with the flow.

marcusaurelio:
why is it that igbo people are the only one naming their dogs after politicians? This act is barbaric I must say..This is not fair..Lai Muhammed is someone's dad

SO is Jack and Billy