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Nicholdave: Thanks for your candid advise, eriko2k2.

But do you know from which source in the EU I can get a proper RHD vehicle, which country and/or website?

I generally like getting my things from abroad myself and I've been pretty successful with some items. I'd like to arrange a second car by myself without engaging needless intermediaries.

Your quick response will again be appreciated.

Thanks.

in teh EU that would be the UK, but however if you know anyone in France u can get the LHD for lil bit more,Bro Im telling you, guy in 9ja advocating these conversion would be people seeking Jobs, I dont see the relivance and the gains, I did convert three cars myself in ladipo and its time and effort consuming, the real winners are the Mechanics cos you are giving them jobs, if you are a dealer, the time and effort you put in it if added up as naira and kobo in Economic terms you are losing big time.

lungwun: Very to the point write up. However there are a couple of discrepancies.

407's can be had for as little as 1500 quid if you dont mind changing your own cogs.

Clearance of said 407 is a lot closer to 300k not 150k

i agree with all your other points conversion of a 407 is pretty easy as the master cylinder does not need to be redlocated from the right hand side to the left hand side.

Nigerians are still scared of the conversions. But i will add this little tidbit. do not skimp on conversion. this is the most important part get someone who will do it well and pay the money to have it done.

I have converted 6 cars so far, some for myself and some for friends who rode in mine and saw the level of workmanship done to them. Got several more cars on the way from blighty for friends of friends who also spread the word virally.

Good luck

OK fare anough, Now tell me what you do to the heater Box, its usually bellow the Glove box as this has to be removed to make space for the pedal box and steering bracket seating.

Nicholdave: So far, no one could tell exactly how much it takes to do the conversion for various cars mentioned.

I'm here seriously contemplating getting a RHD Peugeot 407 from the UK and converting it in Nigeria: how much would that cost please?

Also, I hear many stories about the issues associated with the 407 and need to confirm from Nairalanders who REALLY know.

Any objective opinion would be appreciated.

Thanks.

The honest answer is this, dont try it, its a waste of time and efforet, it will take up to 4 weeks minimum to do and do you have the time to spend in Lagos? moreso it will cost you nearly 200K in all, add that money to the original cost you are as good as buying the LHD from the EU, and one disturbing issue is that you are going to lose the heater motor and the OBD11 wiring loop as the wiring is going to be re routed, I have done it before with my passsat back in 2008 never again.The o nly car which defiles this rule is the Landrover freelander.range rover sport

kc007: It was a kind of troubleshooting. Now it has been estalished the thermostat is working fine, it'l be fixed back ASAP.

Good,never ever remove without replacing,every part in a car is usefull.

redcliff: lol. ode. Clearing a golf from Tincan costs 230k alone. You are Left with 190k or so. are you saying 190k would buy and ship a golf 3 for you from holland? please make me understand this your calculation...

No mind that guy,E never buy spare tyer ones.

fckyourman: WITH 420K, I CAN GET A TOKUBO GOLF FROM HOLLAND.

Bross U be magician? To ship cost 200k min n to clear cost 220k min,thats 420k for only logiptics,howbout the cost of the car is it free?talk is free.

Igorance, WHy remove a themostart from ur car? you think it got no use eh? go and replace it

nothing do them

lovat: 100 human lives to be wasted by govt. It reminds me of the word lawful genocide.

Dnt worry,we would love to hear U say this when U are told to pay randsum to free ur kidnapped folks

ray collins: @ ikenna yes. Fuel guage goes down so fast, upstream sensor keeps throwing out d CEL illuminated light. I ususlly clear code before replacing but it comes back within 5 seconds. Thanks

Have you tried checking your exhust for leaks?its very simple to do, just hold that or block teh exhust with ur hand B4 it gets hot and there should be a frying sound from the engine indicating fumes are repatrated back to the eengine do this for less that 10 seconds

Ikenna351: ray collins,

Stop looking for those clowns to cause more harm for the vehicle. As far as am concerned, you are doing just fine with your diagnosis. All you need is patience, time and guidance.

Now, that the ECU is reporting a fault with the upstream sensor, does not mean the sensor is faulty. Its only telling you something is wrong at that end. Its left for you to find out what actually is the problem. I wouldn't blame you for replacing the upstream sensor the first time, because of the code you got, but I would have tested the sensor when you realised that the fault didn't go away after the replacement. Don't rely so much on what a scan tool tells you.

Since I do not know much about Toyota injection system, I will use Peugeot injection systems to explain what you need to do on this issue.

o2 Heater Power source: Peugeot use Universal oxygen sensor for their injection systems (except few older Peugeot EFI systems). And Bosch brand only. By universal sensor, I mean 4-wire o2 sensor. Now the Bosch oxygen sensor has a heater. The heater has ground and 12v+ wires (2 out of the 4 wires on the sensor). Some of their EFI systems have their o2 heater power source 12v+ from relays, while some are powered directly from the ECU. So, if the heater relay fails, the heater wont get its 12v+, meaning the sensor wont work. So, you need a Digital MultiMeter (DMM) to test that wire with ignition or engine running, to be sure the heater on the sensor is still been powered (still receiving the 12v+ and ground). Whatever you find, will tell you whether to rule out heater power source or fix the power source.

o2 ECU signal wire: Did it occur to you that there could be dis-communication between the o2 and the ECU via the signal wire? You need to check the continuity of that signal wire from the sensor to the ECU wiring connector with DMM. I know two methods of checking continuity with DMM, but its going to take me a lot of time, if not part of the night to explain them. Do you know how to use DMM? Connectors could corrode, hence, ECU would be receiving incomplete or no values from the sensors. Rodents could eat or chop off those wiring harness, 1 or 2 wires, which would lead to loss of signals from the sensors those wires are connected to. So, test the ECU signal wire continuity, including the two ground wires to the o2, assuming yours is 4-wire o2 sensor.

ECU or o2 sensor: The cause. The LH2-2 (Jetronic) of my Baby works like this: The Injection ECU, through the ECU signal wire, sends about 1.5v to the o2 sensor. Then, the Bosch 02, through the same signal wire, sends about 64 millivolts to the Injection ECU. This result can be attained when the signal wire is disconnected in btween the o2 and the Injection ECU (on the o2 connector, if you like). It works like a thermistor (CTS). So the o2 is supposed to reduce the higher values the ECU is sending to it and return a lower value as the system warms and CTS gradually reduce consumption (with the help of heater part of the o2 sensor, though). So, when the two sides of the signal wires are joined together, you should be getting on your DMM about .80v or so, less than what you will get on the ECU side when the signal wire is disconnected. So, am not sure of Toyota, but for my LH2-2 system, anything more than 1v when the 2 wires are connected would mean the sensor is faulty, since its supposed to reduce the values the ECU sends to it and return the reduced value back to ECU. Also, if the ECU fails to send any value to the sensor, even though the sensor is sending the .64 millivolts, then either the ECU is faulty or there is a dis-communication somewhere on the wire. Likewise, if o2 sensor fails to give about 64 millivolts, then its not working. Note that not all DMM have millivolts function.

If you can carry out the above test on the car, you will know if the o2 sensor is the culprit or the ECU, including the wires with which the 2 components communicate with each other, and the heater relay, if any.


If you do not have the wiring diagram/schematics of that car, it's time to get one. Good luck!


Ikenna.

Correct let me add a lil bit, one of the O2 sensor is a heated one, has he found waht one it is?

efelusi: Hello Guys, Please advise a brother.... I am about paying for a BMW X5 2002, 4.4i with a V8 engine... thought i could get a 4.4i V6..... please i need advise on maintenance and fuel efficiency.... i am presently driving a 2000 528i. Advise is urgent!!!!! Siena and the BMW gurus intercede...

BMW only do Straight line ENgine no Vs

lungwun: Help? Anyone?

What year you looking for?

Peacefullife: My bad @ sultaan:
It is a Ford Escape V6, 2004 Model. it uses the same engine with Mazda Tribute and Mercury Mariner.

any other info needed will be provided.

Thanks sir.

p0300 to p305 meant cylinder 3-5 is misfiring, check or change your plugs, use 4 spark, its way better.
P0443 = EVAP PURGE SO LONOID CIRCUIT
P0135=O2 SENSOR 1/1 CIRCUIT HIGH
P0141=O2 SENSOR 1/2 HEATER PERFORMANCE
P0155=O2 SENSOR 2/1 HEATER PERFORMANCE
P0161=O2 SENSOR 2/2 HEATER PERFORMANCE
P0195 =ENGINE OIL TEMPERATURE SENSOR
And finally P2197 =Lack of HO2S-21 Switch, Sensor Indicates Lean Detailed Description A heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) indicating lean at the end of a test is trying to correct for an over-rich condition. The test fails when the fuel control system no longer detects switching for a calibrated amount of time.

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I admire ur creativity in what U wrote,however the line where U said the only BLACK MAN is just derogative and self reducing,if everyone is black in the video so what?,everybody are equals,I employ U to live once a while in a society where evrybody comes equals.

Abagworo: Port-Harcourt Road as the name implies is obviously a trunk "A" federal road linking Aba and Port-Harcourt. FG or like you wrote GEJ obviously deserves the blame more than the State or Orji. In Aba Opobo road, Aba/Owerri road, Ikot-Ekpene road and PH/Enugu expressway are federal roads. in Port-Harcourt East/West road, Ikwerre/Owerri/Airport road, Aba road, Igbo-Etche road, Opobo-Aba Road are federal roads. In Owerri Douglas/Aba road, Owerri/Onitsha, Okigwe road, Egbu/Umuahia road, Orlu road and Control/Port-Harcourt road are Federal. In Onitsha Asaba/Enugu, Onitsha/Owerri and Onitsha/Awka road are Federal roads. They are all known as trunk A.

Stop that thing you are taking it aint good for you,how the Hell would you come to the conclusion that port Harcourt rd is a fedral Rd? Oh cos its called Port harcourt rd? there is a benin Rd in my Town, would you call that a fedral road as well? guy leave the name, My house and family are in PH of the east west RD, my wife is there, so I know what Im talking about, if you live anywhere near that axis you would know that the road aint fedral but state or Unles you got F9 in Geography that is

chikasin4: I hv posted d vin no, pls read my post before commentin ok, The ecu was stolen yestaday from where I packed d car. I dont know d part no since d car was purchased last week, i hv not even put d plate no on it. Ok can u help m

ok, now the part number would be same as any other of same year and model, so check about to get a part number for same make,model and year, go to a dealer and check, you will never get a matching ECU without the exact part number.And dont forget, your new ECU had to be programed with you correct VIN number and milage, dont just buy any ECU and think it would work.

chikasin4: @siena, it is North American model, automatic transmision wit 1.8liter inline 4 engine. Pls I need ur responce now, I am waitin, thank u. I want to buy a used ecu tomorrow, pls advice m on that, i need d part no dat will march d stolen one plls

I dont know how computer litrate you are both I hope you have a clue,
Now ECU are like a samll computer, you need the part number to know the type of ECU, after you got one that is of same make and model, you now need to program it with your VIN which you failed to tell us on here, go back to your car and copy the VIN thats the only way out to program it and for us to get that real model of the car,U just cant buy any ECU plug it in your car and Expect it to work, you have to program it in with teh VIn plus your milage, I did one for my Wife's car last week when the ECU in the Jeep liberty failed, though It was programmed form the USA.

SOLD

naijababe: Foreign aid that they will get back with interest! SMH

Aids not loan.

Chillisauce: First Nigeria is English colony. If they want a job in france you gat to learn the language etc. Am comparing brits and their colonies to french and their colonies. This is not a debate of naija doc or police in france.

YOu just prove my very point, Learn the language, right if you come to the UK, there are PCs from every cornners of the earth, they have what they call Positive descrimination here in the Uk in some employing conditions.

Sa

chikasin4: I wake up dis monin and found out my ECU hv been stolen from my car where I packed it last night. I was so angry now. I buy dis car 2weeks ago snd I dont know d parts number. Pls guys help m wit d parts number so dat I can buy another one. My car is toyota corolla 2003 model wit vin number 2T1BR32E93C739600. Please how can i do about dat. I am waitin

Seriously?so ur windows smashed as well? As that model would be central locked with alarms??

emmysenior: You talk as if you don't know the meaning of disappointment.

Nigerian contractors are thieves and rogues. They require close monitoring in order to execute their works genuinely.

How can you be happy with projects you know will collapse in no time?
It is as good as not been there in the 1st place.

If you must know. I am not from the said place.

Frm ur own derivations,did it nt occour to you that the said govt should have invested some of these funds in monitoring the projects?

chibabe3: From analysis of all the posts, it's quite obvious that your best bet considering your burget is a manual gear toyota picnic. Though I have not seen one with automatic gear. You can't get a sienna at that price but it's cost of maintenance may be high for you unless you can afford to add 200k to the money. Personally, I am hoping to get a toyota verso avensis for my big family.

They aint in Auto,they are frm the EU,

adejide2: The use of dodge and ford cars are not common in nigeria especially dodge probably because of maintenance cost and low reliability. Please I need more counseling on this to avoid falsehood in the forum.

Stay off those two ,but if U gt someone resident in the USA then yea,them cars are good but parts hard to get in Nigeria.

Abee79: THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL RESPONSE. LISTEN TO YOUR MECHANIC!!!!!

Bross the grammer confuse U? Kai lol

victorazy: What do u mean by "wicked" plz.

I meant very good mpv,ur kids get to watch a dvd in the back seat,roomy and comes in L4 or V6

KA24DETT: no matter how you cut it, Toyota sienna 4cylinder loaded to the brim with passenger and goods is definitely underpowered. I don't think they make 4cylinder sienna or even if they do, it dosent sell much.
What u mean by tropicalized? Las Vegas is hotter than Nigeria , Phoenix is hotter than Nigeria. Toyota and every manufacturer tests their cars to withstand the extremes of temperature . Your tropicalized and non toropicalized argument is a mute point. I remenber watching Mercedes video on their CLA class and the extreme temperature they put their cars through . Every automaker does that. You have to sell your car in Yukon Canada and also in Death Valley California.

brother I tire for these guys mentality, dem just dey fall our hand for auto section, tropicalise was a term we used when we where shipping cars to 9ja from Belgum decades ago.

Kamanda: Pls Sir, is VW sharan exactly the same as Ford Galaxy 1999 model and are your attributes for Sharan same as. Ford Galaxy?

Two diffrent things guy, one is German the other is English.

victorazy: Is the engine not expensive? I think is about 350k and not durable but has fuel economy.

if you got the money buy the 2004 model, its wicked

Trac: I will not recommend the Sienna V6 on Nigerian roads except modifications are made. I want to believe the Honda variant to the Sienna is the same philosophical (planning) embedded approach. A vehicle you cannot find the fuel to refill should not be an option unless the required modification is done. Anyone that tells you the 4-cylinder variant is underpowered should not be taken seriously. Don’t go by the kilowatt figures because you’ll be wasting your time.

Frankly, your approach to this objective (that is your inquiry) is somewhat wrong. Retracing, your inquiries will begin at the mechanic to whom will work on your choice of vehicle for the next decade. It is what he says that you will do/follow. If what you are told to get is a Mazda (for example), then that is what you will get. They are the ones that will eventually have an affair with the vehicle for the extended duration of time in ownership. I had a client mid-year; he gave his requirements and I looked at it as a bad option of a deal. My recommendations were given in response with official documents; giving no room for doubts. He did a wise thing, he consulted with his mechanics and they couldn’t sustain my recommendations and I could justify why: socio-economical factors.

You will be importing a non-tropicalised car to a non-tropicalised region. You will have trade-offs in reliability. This is due to the principles of optimizations in the overall design/product of the vehicle. In certain aspects, it may not be noticeable. In some areas, it will. Further explanation will derail the topic as it is manufacturing-biased rather than the discussion, thus leaving the thread topic void. So, the reliability gotten in non-tropicalised regions should not be expected in Nigeria. Vehicles are built to two international standards. There is a way around this [however]. In the United States, you can purchase cars for any price if time is not a factor. At a lower purchase price, the rest of the intended purchase amount should be used to do extensive service on the vehicle. Two approaches to this: a Nigerian works on it with the forecept that it’d be taken to Nigeria or a the white man is briefed that the vehicle will be taken to regions like Haiti or Jamaica. What to be done is understood and a mini-project is begun. An impedance to this will be the type of transaction with your friend. If it’s profit-oriented, cost becomes higher because of the engulfed profit. Nevertheless, over a decade period, it details the cheapest approach than plain purchase-and-shipping.

I intentionally left a lot out due to discretion. Overall, you should have an idea of what I’ve made sketchy and ponder upon it to unravel. Above all, your mechanic will have the golden-say on what you may or mayn’t get. It is their duty to maintain it for your entire duration of ownership. Never argue with them (even if you are smarter). They work on numerous cars in all kinds of state and there are certain x-factors that aren’t widely known that they encounter.

ALl these you just wrote where true only 15 years ago, |tropicalisation where terms used by local people to establishe thier assumed know how of imported vehicles back in teh days we mainly import cars from Germany Belguim etc, just to jug your memory, mention one car that is built for the tropics if not the SWAMP BUGGIE,you are making refrences to the isue of removing thermostats in cars which we have earlier discused on car talks as very silly.Its cost effective for car manufacturers to design and build cars to a specific standar to ensure cost effectivenes, ie cars could be used in whatever region you take them to.If you claim regions and tapography differs and are major factors in car production as you claim, explan why if I live in New york I can drive my car to frisco ,texas or florida? one is a desert and others are tropical just like west africa, no summer or winter.Cars are built to specification by Law and for all weather.