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Religion / Re: Jesus, The Measure Of Your Righteousness - Joseph Prince by esere826: 1:47am On Sep 16, 2015 |
I'm enjoying these threads Jiggaz |
Religion / Re: When Our Spiritual Leaders Err/backslide by esere826: 12:28pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
sportsmaster:you're right. However time helps in giving you the latitude of putting doctrines to the test and gathering information to support or disprove doctrines For example, someone who has never been a christian and got baptised in HIM only two days ago will know little to nothing about the history of the church, and how some doctrines that are coming forth, actually came 100's of years ago and caused problems to the congregations and made the church leaders evil dictators with whose authourity did Noah curse?I don't recall that the bible said anything about Noah cursing under the authority of God. Did you read something like that? Then what happened to his Sister?uhmm,,... now this is the kind of bible fear that works on people and kills them. This is a big topic on its own . However, you missed my point. I might also need a whole new thread to say the story of what happened . ie the entire scenario that played out Go and read 2samuel 1 and 2.This is still another long story. The essence of my point is that David made personal choices and pronouncements. The mistake some make is that when they read the Bible they always assume that every word spoken, even by individuals was spoken by God. So for example, when David said this: “Why weren’t you afraid to lift your hand to destroy the Lord’s anointed" ... it is is assumed that God was the one who spoke these words. ..big mistake i never used the word MOG ,i used the word Spiritual leaders.you did use it. Just copy and paste this "TURN to speak against the MOG" in search, you'll find that you used it. But no worries. We'll let that pass Spiritual leaders are bound to err.I agree very much For me, the challenge is when you err and then you turn am to new church tradition and even turn the scripture on its head to support your erring. Well, I guess that is part of the erring process. The only problem is with the little ones that take the erring as a new doctrine and mess themselves up. ...na dis wan dey pain me. Speaking against will mean to insult ....I agree this should not be done to anyone at all whether a leader or follower. (...i am using the Nigerian definition of insult here) .....or dishonor them because of their mistakes.what does dishonor mean? For example, i have learnt that Yorubas concept of honour is different from mine. Can you give me examples of dishonour, thanks |
Religion / Re: When Our Spiritual Leaders Err/backslide by esere826: 9:44am On Sep 13, 2015 |
sportsmaster:interesting examples alright -out of curiosity, how long have you been in Christ? From my experience, the bible can kill one, and also make one alive I really don't know where to start from to break some of these things to you. For example as starters, 1) Noah's son was cursed by Noah, and not by God. Remember that Lot did not curse his daughters for sleeping with him 2) Moses was spoken against by Aaron and his sister because of jealousy or because of his 'black' wife. This is a long story 3) David owed Saul everything, in as much as Saul turned against him later. There was no requirement for him to be loyal to Saul. what do you mean by speaking against a MOG? [ ...break it down to its bits First ask what exactly is a MOG? Are you a MOG?, who are the MOGs? What constitutes 'Speaking against'? For example, asking this MOG a question, is it speaking against?, saying you don't agree, is it speaking against? etc |
Religion / Re: When Our Spiritual Leaders Err/backslide by esere826: 8:52pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
let me help dissect your points sportsmaster:Ok 2)Believe the best about them.Does believing someone's best change his worst. For example, notorious robbers can also be generous folks. So what exactly does this point mean? 3)Focus on their strengths and you will see their weakness disappear.Not really. I believe I know what you're trying to say, but I doubt you've properly digested the fullness of this physiologically powerful concept. ..this is another topic for another day 4)speak postively about them.fair enough 5)Never, I repeat Never criticise them in Public or in the midst people or amongst yourselves in churches or anywhere.why not? Is it because they told you so and you believe them. Your dad might have likewise told you same thing never to challenge him. 6)Never criticise/ condemn them on Social media.Why not? 7)Talk to other Spiritual leaders about the Particular Pastor/leader.Why? where does this suggestion come from? Have you thought through this Honour them.Is honor earned or demanded? Sorry, I'l take my leave now midway through responding to your suggestions .. I saw some rooky gaps I realised that although you've got a good heart there is some more information that you would need to absorb and consequently process with the passing of time ...stay blessed |
Religion / Re: When Our Spiritual Leaders Err/backslide by esere826: 8:28pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
sportsmaster: that is no solution that is a vestige of theocracy Europe was once there you know, and if anything it is argued that it killed the church worldwide and in Europe when folks got fed up |
Religion / Re: When Our Spiritual Leaders Err/backslide by esere826: 7:14pm On Sep 12, 2015 |
sportsmaster: Interesting ideas but wait a minute, were do we draw the line? an MOG rapes a little girl, and his assembly believes he did no wrong, should the rest of us shut up or simply report him to other leaders and not the cops, ...leaders who probably have worse skeletons in their cupboards when we keep quiet won't other leaders and assembly members begin to actually do the same thing thinking it is not wrong what happens to this little girl who everyone turns their back on and despise so that the MOG is spared and the gospel has no obstacle? ..just thinking out loud, and I really dont want to go quoting scriptures because it would be a torrent if I do so 2 Likes |
Crime / Re: Quest For Movie Stardom: Woman Loses N2.1m To Fake Spiritualist by esere826: 12:15pm On Sep 11, 2015 |
IamPatriotic: I almost agree with you the only problem was that Kalu gave her a time limit if not, I would have said that his jazz worked |
Health / Re: Why Are More Married Women In Nigeria Becoming Addicted To The Drug Codeine by esere826: 11:38am On Sep 11, 2015 |
nex: They just want to be able to wind down and sleep after battling with the stress of the kids all day 10 Likes 1 Share |
Travel / Re: Photo: Syrian Migrants Push Away African Refugees From Boat by esere826: 11:11am On Sep 11, 2015 |
Mustay: you spoke sensibly |
Religion / Re: Pastor Anita's Book Is POWERFUL! by esere826: 3:08am On Sep 09, 2015 |
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Family / Re: My Wife Nags Anytime Am Broke, Please Advise by esere826: 11:09pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
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Family / Re: My Wife Nags Anytime Am Broke, Please Advise by esere826: 11:09pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
BRAVAGAD0O: ...guy any time you have money, make sure you do a whole lot of nagging too the trick is that in some future discussions, she'll complain that you nag when you have money, while you'll complain that she nags when you have none. And both of you will realise that it is true ooo and laugh about it (....although u already knew) It will tone down her 'nagg-iness' in the future anytime she remembers the discussions however, if in your moment of mushiness, you make the mistake of telling her that you set her up na you know.... just like Delilah did with Samson, your locks will be cut off 6 Likes |
Jokes Etc / Re: Hilarious: Villagers Play On Snooker Made From Clay Using Cucumber As Balls by esere826: 10:44pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
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Religion / Re: Pastor Anita's Book Is POWERFUL! by esere826: 10:39pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
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Religion / Re: Nigerian Pastor Engages Evil Spirit In A Bizarre Deliverance Session (photos) by esere826: 10:24pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
Religion / Re: "I Tolerated Abuse For Long" - Anita Oyakhilome Breaks silence on divorce by esere826: 9:34pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: being PC? |
Religion / Re: "I Tolerated Abuse For Long" - Anita Oyakhilome Breaks silence on divorce by esere826: 9:32pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
QuentinDay: No mind me i was being quidnunc |
Religion / Re: Pastor Anita's Book Is POWERFUL! by esere826: 9:28pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
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Religion / Re: Pastor Anita's Book Is POWERFUL! by esere826: 9:25pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
Religion / Re: "I Tolerated Abuse For Long" - Anita Oyakhilome Breaks silence on divorce by esere826: 6:11pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:I think i answered in an earlier post Uummh! I like a good Christian intellectual discussion any day anytime, spiced with a little gossip too So though I feel a little bit shy carrying someones matter on my head, but ehmmm, ehmm, he's a superstar so yan him matter I must For this clip . I don't agree with him in most of the things he's said. Just like I tried to make you see in your other thread, that the bible talked only about men of God, doesn't mean that the bible has ceased to speak about 'women of God'. Just like the bible does not speak of planets Venus and Saturn either The word of God is alive, and not stuck in the past. Even the book of revelation makes no mention of the bible, instead it speaks about books and the book of life. Now, this can be construed to mean that this book lives and grows. It has our stories written in them. Also,it is said that those who believed were given the power to become son's of God. Daughters were not mentioned here. If we want to be literal, then it means that even the ladies are considered son's of God. So, likewise a man of God can very well be a woman in this dispensation. The bible actually doesn't talk much about "man of God" as a title, especially a God given one. I stand to be corrected. In my opinion, all he needs to do his to go spend a month with his wife and shag her good, and I'm confident that she will forgive him for at least 2 years...no need for all this grammar and spirito tinz Yes, the kingdom is important, but like God told Elijah, I have got 7000 that have not bowed their knees to Baal. So no need to worry that the kingdom work will not continue. |
Religion / Re: Pastor Anita's Book Is POWERFUL! by esere826: 5:37pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
vooks: make i no lie u.... I am enjoying the blog ooooo chei! e be like the writer dey use style diss wan person, while talking the God talk Kai!! women sha check out this one https://www.pastoranita.org/beta/index.php/home/to-love-yourself make I continue abeg ....'can't resist some little tatafo mehnnnn |
Religion / Re: Pastor Anita's Book Is POWERFUL! by esere826: 5:08pm On Sep 06, 2015 |
QuentinDay: We -those names you mentioned - are all different you know we are all saying different things every man is carrying his cross here, agreeing in some things and disagreeing in others I on my part have no issues with Anita's own blog -for now, i really don't care whether it's hers or a clone Maybe if I am interested enough later on, I'll do some investigations on it But to be honest, I really don't care much about its authenticity for now. ..Whatever she does, may God grant her good speed, and may He also grant you the speed to pursue and attain his plan for your life AMEN |
Religion / Re: "I Tolerated Abuse For Long" - Anita Oyakhilome Breaks silence on divorce by esere826: 12:12pm On Sep 05, 2015 |
QuentinDay: Here are some points - Being the wife or husband of a scientist doesn't make you one ...agreed - One or two things Oyaks said in that video can be busted if in a 2 way communication. ...This is the danger of listening only to oneself, you soon become an island unto yourself - Anita helped create all of this. Its like designing a nuclear bomb and complaining if its thrown in your backyard ..although I cant hear her complaining - We all have our loyalists many of who would close their eyes to our faults. Oyaks has is in the many, and so does Anita ..she'll be strengthened by them and by God - From revelations so far, the real accusation was not really adultery, but more of abandonment - Oyaks was built with a p.enis, and An.ita with a va.gina. So in a case of 'abandonment' its only natural that there would be some sexual driven frustration and suspicions. ..maybe na swhy Oyaks encourage us to dey masturbate sef ...just joking -As women get more 'modern' demanding more and men remain in the past, not wanting to give more, so will the tendencies for divorce increase. You only need to listen to Oyaks to realise that despite him being a fine rich boy ehmm em,, he is like the "ancient of days" - I hate media sensationalism and discussions chaperoned by simple minded folks. This kind of sensationalism puts me off the current pro APC publicity machinery. It tends to wrap too much fiction around little truths in order to gain pecuniary and psychological advantages. ..I am a christian and so will definitely have some bias towards my faith (not the touch-not-my-prophet type). I don't feel comfortable dragging 'visible christians' into the mud based on road side stories which may have only 5% truths in them. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: What Does The Bible Say About Political Correctness? Should A Christian Be 'PC'? by esere826: 11:16am On Sep 05, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: you're yet to ask a question |
Religion / Re: What Does The Bible Say About Political Correctness? Should A Christian Be 'PC'? by esere826: 7:16am On Sep 04, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: You missed the point let me explain If I ask a question "what does the bible say about goats?" or I ask you "why are you a goat?" Well, the bible has little to say about goats, and you would immediately take a defensive stance and call me a cow or something. So once more, I suggest you look for some other neutral phrase to use in starting off your inquiry. No worries, you can then throw in the "PC", "hypocrite" etc kind of stuff somewhere towards the middle of the thread ..just my suggestion |
Religion / Re: What Does The Bible Say About Political Correctness? Should A Christian Be 'PC'? by esere826: 11:56pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: I've never seen my bible mention "political correctness" in the first place, neither did it mention the planet jupiter nor global warming Does your bible have such a thing as this? Kindly approach your question from a new vista and lets see if it would ignite folks with sound reasoning instead of those with zealous tendencies |
Religion / Re: "I Tolerated Abuse For Long" - Anita Oyakhilome Breaks silence on divorce by esere826: 10:00pm On Sep 02, 2015 |
Guys let go,...this is getting too dirty let the young man criticize all he wants and let those who are being criticized come to their own defense ..if they've got the time there is no spiritual or psychological profit in attacking one another even if we consider it defense ...night 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: "I Tolerated Abuse For Long" - Anita Oyakhilome Breaks silence on divorce by esere826: 5:59pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: I was referring to the OP blog, not Anita's blog I.e. you framed your post around a blog that was so obviously a patch of various stories designed for sensational effects in order to make money You are strong in aptitude. I would have preferred your created and published your own narrative instead of pushing forward the OP's blog as a point of reference (I am not talking about Anita's blog) . 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: Probe: Jonathan Holds Meeting With Ex-ministers by esere826: 8:27am On Aug 31, 2015 |
kingsolex: Are Lagos and Abuja No MANS lands despite the fact that the cities were developed by the might of the entire nigeria, fueled by oyel economy? Is your mother you wife despite the cultural fact that she is is considered the wife of your dads house? Before you talk about how the oil is yours because groundnuts and cocoa were used for its exploration, since when did oil multinationals foreign investments become cocoa driven? Or, even if it was, does your N100 cab fare mean that the taxi automatically becomes yours forever? dude, do unto others as you would have them do unto you and don't let long throat get the better of you ...(N.B I am not saying that if someone steals money it should not be returned and the person prosecuted. However ethnic Tinubu jingoists should not make mockery of all of this) 1 Like |
Religion / Re: "I Tolerated Abuse For Long" - Anita Oyakhilome Breaks silence on divorce by esere826: 9:26am On Aug 30, 2015 |
habaa Olaadegbu this is too below he belt naw hope you know that you have more intellectual authority than the blogger you are able to put together something more coherent than the blogger managed to achieve so, why stoop down to his or her level? Quite a number of us have a grudge against Oyaks throw-out-your-vision-and-take-mine style of leadership probably because we've seen loved ones sucked-in, parroting like robots, and cut off from us, with nothing substantive to show for it (at least based on our measurement) I guess Anita just woke up to the fact that God's love and and his blessings towards us is not precedent on pastors I also feel her pain, that as a fine chick you marry someone that you have to struggle to differentiate between when to call him pastor vs when to call him darling... what happens in the passion of the bedroom ? .......narcissism She's made her choice, and this should be respected ..Olaa we are all filled up with mistakes, its part of what makes life colourful Chris will make mistakes, Anita will, Kumuyi will, I will, and so will you as you just did All of this does not stop our fellowship with Christ, and that is why for more than 2OOO years (even starting from the apostles) we've had lots of churches pointing fingers at one another while thinking that they are they chosen ones 1 Like |
Religion / Re: The Unheard Story Of David And Goliath by esere826: 12:43am On Aug 30, 2015 |
hahn: PERFECT!! Me thinks there is still some missing bits When David asked to fight Goliath, Saul would have been extremely silly to entrust his entire army and probably kingdom in the hands of a little boy. I suspect that David first had to explain to him that he was extremely skilled with the sling (which was equivalent to a gun) His brothers would have confirmed to Saul And Saul would have tested David by giving him some targets to hit which he did successfully Saul offered David his armour for defence in case Goliath threw his Javeline at him 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Religion / Re: See What This Girl Wore To Church And See The Pastor's Reaction On Facebook by esere826: 12:34am On Aug 30, 2015 |
rangeblog: For fun, let's do a little mental exercise to weigh the pastor's morality....... if someone had come to her church completely naked -whether man or woman would pastor have boldly posted the pictures of the person's dangling bits on facebook? If "NO", then why? if pastor can post this clothed bum picture on facebook without a sense that she is playing with sin, but would feel sinful if she pastes a na.ked attempted-church-attendee's picture on facebook. .....then we can infer that this clothed bum is not as bad as she thinks it is In the words of Daniel: "....TEKEL. Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting." 9 Likes |
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