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Politics / Re: The Rebellion Of The Godsons Part 1 By AKIN OSUNTOKUN by esere826: 8:42am On Aug 01, 2015 |
The Oyomesi invoked the ultimate power (of checks and balances) by inviting the Alaafin to commit suicide. Before submitting to regicide, Aole pronounced the infamous curse against his people-the Yoruba. He condemned them to eternal perdition; enslavement to alien aggressors and the unrelieved tragedy of internal insurrection; social misanthropy and the boiling cauldron of the everlasting lake of hell fire. May God save us from the sadism of evil ancestors. The curse seemingly took effect as the Oyo Empire and other outlying Yoruba districts plunged into a century long quagmire of internal strife and self-immolation; social dislocation; mutual destruction and attrition. The vulnerable imperial capital at Kaltunga (old Oyo) was sacked and destroyed by invaders and prompted relocation to the better secured and more defensible location of Oyo-ile. |
Politics / The Rebellion Of The Godsons Part 1 By AKIN OSUNTOKUN by esere826: 8:42am On Aug 01, 2015 |
Aside from Buhari I have never been able to understand why APC is a saintly party, while PDP is a party of demons considering that APC has a lot of former PDP members I have not been able to understand why Tinubu is a saint, while Akpabio is a demon, and even Ribadu has become a demon However I am very much observant that such narratives appear driven more by those from the Western enclaves who happen to be more vocal and dominant in the critical information dissipation channels,...and information is power A read of Akins article has helped me better understand the history of this social DNA that seeks to make one's thief better than that of the other
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Rap Battles / Re: The Greek Gods Cipher (the gods also brag!) by esere826: 1:01pm On Jul 31, 2015 |
Ishilove: abeg ma just leave them for here close door commot 2 Likes |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: How I Got A Fake Job Appointment - Diary Of A Jobless NIGERIAN by esere826: 12:58pm On Jul 31, 2015 |
damiloladuke: that book is not meant for Nigerians I doubt the writer cares much about this and is only milking as much as he can get to stay rich |
Rap Battles / Re: The Greek Gods Cipher (the gods also brag!) by esere826: 8:40am On Jul 31, 2015 |
umhhhh folks rapping about oyibo juju wetin happen to Nigeria Olokun naw? .... Make this thing no try new front page abeg 1 Like |
Agriculture / Re: EU Ban On Nigerian Food Exports by esere826: 8:30am On Jul 31, 2015 |
The excuse by Paul Orhii, the Director-General, National Agency for Food and Drug Administration and Control that exporters caused the problem by not complying with regulatory requirements for semi-processed and processed commodities is untenable. NAFDAC has not conducted its regulatory oversight properly and needs to put stringent measures in place to monitor our products and guarantee them as safe for export before the next EU review in 2016. The Ministry of Agriculture did not pay sufficient attention to the problem either. I see no reason why NAFDAC should be the ones managing this. It iS not pRACtical. There ought to be central organisations that recieve the products from farmers this organisatons should do spot checks on the products before accepting them for export |
Education / Re: The Use Of The Full Stop, Comma And Semicolon by esere826: 9:17pm On Jul 30, 2015 |
LarrySun: Nice one Larry We can also add that the semicolon can be used like a counter in sentences much like comas are used. It is useful for 'counting' 'aspects' of the sentence that already have a coma. For example: The boy spent his time doing these: played, danced and sang 30%; ate, drank and slept 30% instead of writing this: The boy spent his time doing these: played, danced and sang 30%, ate, drank and slept 30% 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by esere826: 12:00am On Jul 25, 2015 |
frosbel: integrity is different from truth indeed, truth is a subset of integrity one truth in a thousand lies does not affect truth, it only affects integrity Let me speak plain English Some egyptian monarchs tried to rewrite history consequently, historians tend to be skeptical when 'reading their narratives' It doesnt change from the fact that some of the narratives might be true it only lets the researcher be more cautious in sifting for the truths in the piece to be investigated Now, you've had some challenges with the Bible I recall perhaps it is because of the way you framed the entire bible concept in addition to the way others framed it Consider this - If you were adamant that a god personally put pen to paper to write the bible and then you later found some strange bits you would naturally arrive at any of these conlcusions 1) That the god is all powerful but is given to mischief and lies -much like the greek gods 2) That the god is fallible and thus made lots of mistakes in his writing 3) that the work is indeed a forgery, and was never written by any god in the first place (remember that this does not take away from truth if it exists at all within the piece you are querying) Moving on to attributes, a mischievous god cannot be trusted -he lacks integrity, neither can one be trusted, who is given to memory losses -he might have integrity, but lacks capability For the last conclusion, the integrity issue does not lie with a god. It lies with the constituent contributors to the book and those who authenticate and then communicate it as a fact either due to ignorance or scheming But while breezing down this lane of thinking pause for a while to remember this the path dependency or trajectory in which you find yourself might be because your initial premise was that: "a god personally put pen to paper to write the bible" In order words if you change the original premise the trajectory of reasoning and conclusions might a whole lot different from the juncture you find yourself now 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by esere826: 6:53am On Jul 24, 2015 |
frosbel: No..it cant If I write a lot of stuff in my Nairaland diary almost all lies, but i truthfully name the city I was born my lies would not and can never disqualify the truth of my birth However, the more I lie, the less I become credible to my audience until they stop believing me at all, even what i'm saying the truth. So also many truths cannot qualify a lie |
Family / Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by esere826: 7:48pm On Jul 23, 2015 |
Family / Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by esere826: 10:21am On Jul 23, 2015 |
AjanleKoko: na so life be always wanting their privileges and those that should naturally belong to males |
Politics / Re: Buhari Will Probe Jonathan’s Govt Only; Not Obasanjo’s, Others – Presidency by esere826: 10:18am On Jul 23, 2015 |
lol nope. this was probably a misquote of Femi Adesina If Buhari is afraid (or should I say worried) to step on institutionally big toes then all he needs to do is to hands off corruption cases like Yaradua did just allow the law enforcement agencies do the picking for the cases they prefer to go after and then support them and stop talking about corruption solely targeting Jonathans men using antiquated philosophies is only going to send a strong signal in the wrong direction no one is going to be beggarly for justice the euphoria of the guillotine will wear off of those with leanings towards majority ethnic enclaves who are only able to see the logicality (or illogicality) of such actions. but seeds of division will be deeply entrenched after such an act I am as cosmopolitan as the Nigeria jungle can allow but I doubt I'd be able to come to terms with such naked power games If I can't, I wonder how the guys with less exposure will process all of this 1 Like |
Business / Re: Naira Falls Across Markets As CBN Adjust Clearing Rate To N197 by esere826: 12:01am On Jul 23, 2015 |
ilobasama:yes you are correct and unfortunately there is little we can do about our oil dependency except the price crashes irrevocably Its almost how hard it is for a yahu boy to turn from his ways and work hard when an easier and more plentiful source of income exists Nigeria (not neccesarily its individuals) has been designed to fail or continue on its knees for decades no matter what PMB does, he'll end up leaving the throne someday and the party will continue |
Religion / Re: "What Is The Cause Of Church Splits? How Can Healing Occur After A Church Split? by esere826: 11:50pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:Churches split because they are organisations the term "organisation" was coined to describe structured bodies made up of humans it comes from same root term as "organisms" organisms have a purposeful structure that allows it live for as long as possible there is a constant threat of extermination facing all organisms In order to persist in life, the organism has to constantly modify -self correct itself it typically achieves this by splitting in order to grow, "splitting" for offsprings that will bear its hopefully modified DNA, and (or) "splitting" away from its parts that stalls its progress Jesus puts it this way: "He cuts off every branch that does not produce fruit in me, and he cuts back every branch that does produce fruit, so that it might produce more fruit." It is therefore only natural that if people do not share the same vision they will split from each other as time goes on And If both have strong visions they will both grow in their separate paths, otherwise the one or both will fizzle out How can healing occur after a church split?"the healing is in the vision, and in the journey of the vision just as Abraham after his split with Lot brought healing to some of the lands he journeyed through However for the party or parties that lack vision and so hold on to anger they are like branches tossed into everlasting fire with the worms of anguish ceaselessly eating them alive |
Business / Re: Naira Falls Across Markets As CBN Adjust Clearing Rate To N197 by esere826: 11:14pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
ilobasama:He has no choice he either devalues the Naira or use our reserves to defend it If he uses our reserves and the oil price which is our main source of forex does not rise, then we have no money left and will have to borrow to sustain a strong Naira value. The only way out of this is to lessen the demand for Forex while at the same time encouraging inflow of Forex so if for example, everything you buy is 100% made in Nigeria, and we are able to sell our made in 9ja products overseas then and only then will N1 = $1 6 Likes |
Career / Re: Man Graduates With A Distinction For Masters From A UK Uni And Offered A 50k Job by esere826: 9:15pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
nurexfutmx: was the money in Naira or pounds? |
Career / Re: Man Graduates With A Distinction For Masters From A UK Uni And Offered A 50k Job by esere826: 9:12pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
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Politics / Re: Why You Dont Want Nigeria To Break? Research Purpose Only!!!! by esere826: 12:30am On Jul 21, 2015 |
I rather that Nigeria remains one and if possible absorb its neighbors to the south and east However, I am more than happy if the core North breaks away. The do not play with the same rules as we do, and are too susceptible to religious upheavals (The first time i ever saw the dead for the sake of religion was in the North) Despite my desire that Nigeria largely remains one I'm of the view that we remain in the union only if we all play by the same rules with little or no ethnic emotional leaning like I witness regularly (especially in political affiliations and patronage) In the absence of such fairness, then I elect that we opt for division into discussed and agreed constituents In case of such non-acrimonious division, and Considering my social and geographical positioning, I'm modestly but pretty sure that my financial strength will at least triple if this happens -despite the declining price of crude ...I'll miss lagos sha,.. but once in a while, just like I do London, 1'll visit Lagos on a tourist visa and spend some of my awoof oyel cash partying but i guess this is all a pipe dream -the other parts of Nigeria will love us and keep us for a long time while expounding lofty philosophical submissions until there are no more mine-able slush funds to oil our union. Then when ours is down (and it shall surely finish) and theirs up, we'll love them back and never let go and then we'll start with our own abracadabra philosophy just they way we are reminded of groundnut and cocoa pyramids that towered to the heavens like the tower of Babel uhmmmmmm gold-digging 101 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Should Or Should We Not Let Our Good Works Be Seen? by esere826: 9:05am On Jul 18, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:A question was asked. And the answer is simple. yep, you can..if you put on protective shoes. ask anyone who is not familiar with the bible. you'll hear their reply Have you noticed some interesting aspects of the bible about counter arguments, for example,.... -Jesus countering Satan with same Bible that Satan quoted -Jesus countering those who squeezed their faces when he was about to heal the paralytic -the Caananite woman countering Jesus submissions about her legitimacy to partake of healing -Jesus countering those that reasoned that a man was born blind because of sin. Jesus simply twisted the argument in order to bring about results this is what I believe >> that the letter follows the Spirit, and not the other way round If I'm lead to think or act in a certain way, I can always find scriptural and logical arguments to push my case However, if someone first seeks the letter to support his pursuit he would be like a wave of the sea driven by the wind and tossed about Especially when we've got a bible that we've got thousands of people interpreting differently Remember that father Abraham repented and made his way right before the God. (Genesis 17:1).Repent koh, repent ni. that's what they thought me in sunday school. (I suspect say u be my sunday school teacher sef) no ways,... he was still arguing with God in that verse and even helping God with suggestions for his successor that was father Abraham for you |
Politics / Re: Ex-NSA Dasuki Refuses To Surrender, Say SSS Has No Arrest Warrant by esere826: 1:09pm On Jul 17, 2015 |
Is this payback time for Dasuki for arresting Buhari during the coup that threw him out of power? This kind of siege doesn't feel normal it reeks of vandetta |
Religion / Re: Should Or Should We Not Let Our Good Works Be Seen? by esere826: 1:27am On Jul 16, 2015 |
In conformance to the tradition set by the woman who insisted that dogs eat crumbs from the master's table after Jesus tried to pull a fast one on her by throwing an anecdote of dogs and children at her ..i'll go on OLAADEGBU:U sure can play with the dog especially if you're a dog trainer you can also play with fire and not get burnt if you a weary and play safely Have you forgotten that the world is still suffering from Abraham's decision to go into his maid today?that's the point of view of us christians, ..I doubt if the Jews even think that way the other side (non-christians) don't percieve it that way either And guess what, the last time I heard about father Abraham, he was chilling in a cool place visible from hades after what he caused on earth, he was even giving a topographic lecture to the rich man -talk about reward can we then surmise by saying that those who try hard to keep to the letter do a lot of moaning, while those who don't bother seem to be having their cake and eating it |
Religion / Re: Should Or Should We Not Let Our Good Works Be Seen? by esere826: 1:52pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:As long as the money was only an extra, and not the main thing the love was built on. yep she'll still love him Are you sure Jesus in Matthew 6:1-4 did not condemn it? :-Nope, he didn't. He only said "Beware". Just like saying "beware of dog". This is not condemning the dog or the person that might be bitten by the dog Remember the double minded man that James spoke about.Nope, he's not double minded. He's like Abraham the father of faith who believed God for a heir, but still had a son from his maid lest the story have been told that Abraham been try, then he doubted God at the last minute and ended up with no children at all ..it is said to be innocent as doves and shrewd as serpents |
Religion / Re: Why You Should Honor God’s Ministers by esere826: 1:31pm On Jul 15, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff: Using the English definition of HUMBLE just like you have (..make I no use original Hebrew translation and root because I no sabi am) suggests that the leader is perceived to accrue to himself less of the privileges/power/visibility than he would otherwise be able to have You are right You and I might not be under the influence of these leaders alright but perhaps, their followers call them humble because they are placed on very high pedestals by the followers to the extent that if the leader asks to slap them, they would oblige so here comes the leader instead of slapping the follower, requests only that his feet be washed ..."wow, the leader is so humble" they'd say So I guess humility has a lot to do with what is being measured against, and by whom |
Religion / Re: Why You Should Honor God’s Ministers by esere826: 3:06pm On Jul 14, 2015 |
MuttleyLaff:I agree with Vooks and yourself However, I ask where in the world do folks get some strange leadership-followership ideas from (which might end up being abused) I refuse (or fear) to believe that these leaders seat down to conjure up these practices hoping that their followers tow it I suspect its a natural flow from their value system (both the leaders and followers) Look at us arguing respectfully it is clear that our value system supports this, and any Christian leader that engages with us would have to come to the table with lots of brain power ... (though we also have some inert but suppressed vile values birthed by our cultures and traditions) However, it makes sense that an insultive Christian would only sync with a leader who is able to use brash coercive psychological force to keep him in check You can thus see a certain semblance of character between the follower and the followee. This I suspect is because they share similar underlying cultures (I am not talking about tradition oo) perhaps there is another angle to this maybe the leader has special gift that enables him stir and configure his followers values/culture/beliefs to be same as his. Whatever, the case, I seriously doubt that a man go siddon start to dey plan how him wan make a fool of him congregation That South Aftrican pastor that get his followers to eat grass should be a good case study for my line of argument ....all said, I largely agree with you guys. All of this is just me trying to turn the cube a little bit to see what else we can see *Additional comment..To buttress my thoughts around culture, you noticed how the OP laid out his argument for standing up for pastors. He came in from the point of view that we typically stand up for presidents, and then transferred that same honor to the pastors. That argument might not fly well with a British person who typically won't be bothered to stand for his prime minister. However, if the OP and his folks do a good job of transferring the adulation given to the queen unto the pastor, then indeed not only will they stand, they will also bow before the pastor. |
Religion / Re: Why You Should Honor God’s Ministers by esere826: 10:20am On Jul 14, 2015 |
vooks: I did get your point (and I agree with you that leaders with an awe struck following can and do a number of times abuse such privilege. It is natural human flaw that is even replete in the Bible) However, for the sake of some extra intellectual argument -playing the "devils advocate" or should I say the "angels advocate" I am arguing that culture goes beyond that which is obvious in the community It is like an iceberg assemblage see https://equity.spps.org/uploads/iceberg_model_3.pdf A not too tidy example: if a church encourages the followers to wash the feet of their apostles you might find out that an underlying but seemingly unrelated saying in that community is "moni no dey shout say this man make me from toilet washing" Consequently, the follower doing the washing might be thinking "if I wash this pastor leg, God go give me money" The pastor himself whose feet is being washed might be driven by another philosophy embedded within the culture of his community. Now remember Peter was not pleased with unclean animals that he was given to eat in his dream, and it showed in the way it affected his ministry with the gentiles. I think Prophet Jeremiah it was who pleaded with God to change his mind about cooking with human poo, because it was unclean. All of this was as a manifestation of culture I am not holding brief for these guys, after all, the spirit of the prophet is subject to the control of the prophet I am just exploring an alternative reasoning apart from the normal "false prophet" label or the "you must obey God's prophets" mentality |
Religion / Re: Should Or Should We Not Let Our Good Works Be Seen? by esere826: 11:53pm On Jul 13, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: I think we should first try to be nice. reward or no reward for example get up for that old lady to sit even if God no bless you I then think that the next step is to look out for the rewards for our niceness. Its like a girl marrying a guy because she loves him. But the extra is that the guy dey spend sha I think that if you have waited too long for God's reward for your niceness and u neva get am, then try mans own afterall, Jesus did not condemn it. I think that you can further jig it to have 50/50 potential reward distribution from God and man. Any one that comes first would be gratefully received. |
Religion / Re: Why You Should Honor God’s Ministers by esere826: 11:41pm On Jul 13, 2015 |
vooks: I would dig deeper than what is obvious in the community culture is often like an iceberg with a lot of its intricate underlining forces submerged in the subconscious -away from site Yes, cultural disposition is often abused and cases abound were such honor /loyalty to leadership has led to 'cultic' physical and material destruction when the leader turns from the right, and his sheep follow blindly However, looking at the history of Christianity you might notice that major thrusts have been achieved by a dangerous few who seem to bend the rules in an absurd but dogged way. It seems to strike the chord needed to galvanise a zealous following who would otherwise not have moved their behinds for the things of God. The gospel is warehoused by human vessels, so I guess Christianity has to live with the risk that what can be soooo gooood and powerful , can be abused and become sooooooo baaaaad and enslaving. Where do we draw the line? that's why I believe that sensible criticism must be tolerated |
Religion / Re: Why You Should Honor God’s Ministers by esere826: 10:50am On Jul 12, 2015 |
vooks:My instinct would be to say that they are wrong, ....but wait a minute my instincts may be honed by my culture I guess all first 6 (and perhaps the 7th) have a lot to do with the Minister's and Congregation's cultural disposition for example I am not an expert in Italian culture, but I noticed that their movies depict that the dons stretch out their hands, and is kissed by those loyal to them I see the Roman Catholic Church Pope does the same thing I would assume that a minister and congregation from the Yoruba stock might not see anything wrong with laying prostrate before church authority. At first, I would feel repulsed if I am expected to do that....I don't have that culture ....but now for the 7th one uhmmmm Defining honor as agreeing with their EVERY word, doctrineI can't think of any modern culture that ascribes to this except perhaps dictatorial ones like Taliban and North Korea |
Religion / Re: Does The Lord Change Or Not? by esere826: 9:12pm On Jul 08, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: YHWH has both characteristics of change and "unchangeability", so the answer is yes for both. Its just like the story of how definitions depends on what part of the elephant a man who happens to be blind touches. Consider this A mans wife screams at him for always peeing on the toilet seat and she says he needs to change he grunts back and says to her "I am a man with a dangling hose which sometimes misfires... . abeg.. You wan make I turn to woman? I can never change" Again, this same man some 5 yrs back had sworn that he will not marry until he clocks 40. He suddenly met a damsel who is not willing to wait for him. He repents of his oath and quickly marries her so that she doesn't run off with another fella. We can see that the man 'can change', and yet 'can not change' A question that can follow from such analysis is how can we be sure which part of God we are exposed to, and in what circumstance? Can we trust that he will not change when we need him to be the unchangeable one? |
Politics / Ben Murray Bruce Narrates The Stupidity Of Some E-rats by esere826: 12:15am On Jul 07, 2015 |
A Third Alternative to PDP and APC by Ben Murray Bruce http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/a-third-alternative-to-pdp-and-apc/213992/
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Religion / Re: Should Or Should We Not Let Our Good Works Be Seen? by esere826: 7:33pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:Strategy wise ...yes humility or discretion wise -no It depends on which is the overriding factor at that point for example, if i pick up a man on the streets and help him to his feet economically ,....it makes no sense for me to announce it. What gain do I have for this even from men? however, if i want to encourage others to do the same, i definitely will use that experience as an example also, if like Rochas Okoracha, I want to run for presidency, I would be happy to draw peoples attention to my act of kindness so that they vote for me. I guess at the end of the day, the question would be if I would help that man if I have nothing temporal to gain from it if the answer is yes, then it doesn't really matter whether I do my good deed in secret (without gain) or in the open (for additional strategic gains) in essence, the overiding purpose was not that I have the glory of men, and probably neither that of God We could change the topic to trying to identify the blessings from both types of acts and then ask if God would go ahead and bless me after doing this act from the mindset i have espoused and I would probably answer that "your Father which sees in secret Himself shall reward you openly" he has seen your secret mindset and has rewarded you openly. Hence your ability, determination and capability to even lift that guy up economically in the first place |
Religion / Re: Should Or Should We Not Let Our Good Works Be Seen? by esere826: 8:33pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
nothing wrong with letting our good works be seen as it is written " let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven." if you take this literary, you see there is a distinction between the works and the light in order words, it can be interpreted as saying draw attention to your good works so that folks will see it and bless God But then what about the other verse that seems to suggest we hide our good works Well, there are a number of explanations I can give, but I'll give only this one. an excerpt from the verse shows this: "......that they may have glory of men." So we see that this is an admonition to those who are yet to emerge from self those who are yet to understand their oneness with God, those who are separate from God Remember what was said about Christ that he went about doing good. he sure wasn't trying too hard to hide it. |
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