₦airaland Forum

FighterPilot:
Yes China will come and build them for you in 2050. China does not have money anymore to give loans for charity. They offered you loans to build you your first OPVs and I don't think they will ever offer you any loans anytime soon.
Meanwhile, our project of building our proudly made in SA OPVs is just on the door step to kick start. The shipyard is currently only busy renovating and extending their stores to be well equiped before the major project begins.
http://www.warshipsifr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=147:china-boosts-its-global-reach-via-naval-diplomacy&catid=36:commentary&Itemid=65

The idea that China is building all our vessels for us is an utterly ridiculous fallacy.Why,I can clearly remember that China is scrambling to acquire more vessels to safeguard its hold on the South-China sea and silk trade route,tell me,how can a country in such a dire need,leave its own problems to serve the interests of another country?.

Patchesagain:
you are going to be building destroyers and an aircraft carrier by 2020?
Wow

I thought you once claimed that OPVs are for weak and small navies,Now when it comes to 'Project Biro',OPVs have suddenly become vessels of national prestige?.
You are going to build OPVs by 2018?
rather unbelievable.

FighterPilot:
Unfortunately you haven't done project management to understand that there are short and long term project in any organisation. Project Biro same as other long term projects in SAN only started as envisioned dream and now everything is starting to materials with companies already about to start the project. The project will be win-win project since it will as well boast the economy in the country.

SA is not in a hurry with the project, yet the project is becoming a reality. It is better that matter how long it takes we are finally heading somewhere and we will once more built our own ships.
Better late than never.
http://www.issafrica.org/iss-today/can-project-biro-help-africa-to-overcome-its-maritime-security-challenges

By the time you start building your {imaginary} IPVs and OPVs,we will be constructing destroyers and assembling an aircraft carrier.

lionel4power:
whoa you eat south africans for breakfast. Lemme get my 3D glass and watch dis movie hehehehe

lol,i was just checking in on you guys.
By the way,I must commend you cyber-generals on a job well done,i have watched how you guys unveil and dispel the lies and negative propaganda maliciously churned out by these southies,indeed you have spared no effort in undertaking the herculean task of driving these south african horde to sea.I salute you guys.

patches689:
Dude, dont you have something better to do with your time?

I am all for actual debate about military equipment

But such pointless arguments?

SAN has said it is getting them, tenders (and funds) have been released for the task and a Naval Base has been built for them to operate from, while the SAN has allready put plans in place to hire the extra 600 sailors who will crew them.

It is obvious that Biro is going to be completed on schedule.

We shall see then.

patches689:
And yet the tenders close on june 30

Yeah,tenders as usual,tenders that would see neither contract nor implementation.
HEADLINES 2O50:
DAILY NEWS: SOUTH AFRICAN MARITIME DEFENCE INDUSTRIES SUBMIT TENDERS FOR NEWLY RESUSCICATED PROJECT BIRO
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HEADLINES 2070:
DAILY NEWS: RISE,FALL AND RISE AGAIN OF PROJECT BIRO,SOUTH AFRICAN MARITIME DEFENCE INDUSTRIES SCRAMBLE TO SUBMIT NEW TENDERS
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HEADLINES 2090:
DAILY NEWS: "PROJECT BIRO TO REOPEN BID THIS SUMMER",SOUTH ARICA'S DEFENCE MINISTER CLAIMS
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HEADLINES 2120:
DAILY NEWS: AFTER 120 YEARS AND NUMEROUS BIDDING PROCESSES,PROJECT BIRO AWAITS FULL ACCREDITATION BEFORE YULETIDE
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WORLD HEADLINES 2150: 'PROJECT BIRO' CELEBRATES 150 YEARS AS SOUTH AFRICAN GOVERNMENT KICKSTART FRESH BIDDING PROCESS
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patches689:
And yet project Biro continues as planned

Indeed,and it would 'continue' for another 30 years with nothing to show for it,'as planned' of course .

Henry120:
Project Biro
Calculate 23 years + 6 years = ?

Zuma has spent all the money meant for Project BIRO to dig escape tunnels all over South africa.

PRESIDENT JONATHAN OPENS NIGERIAN ARMY RADIO STATION{WEST AFRICA'S FIRST MILITARY RADIO STATION} AT MOGADISHU CANTONMENT IN ABUJA
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http://www.channelstv.com/2015/05/22/jonathan-opens-army-radio-station/
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DEFENCE RADIO,107.7FM

JUST IN: Unconfirmed report that the supreme sheikh of Boko Haram/ISWA-Abubakar Shekau,has been captured should be disregarded until such a time that it is confirmed by the Nigerian DHQ.
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http://www.naij.com/444309-reports-say-shekau-has-been-captured.html
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Reports circulating the media that Abubakar Shekau,also known as Darul Akeem wa zamunda Tawheed has been seized in Bosso area of Niger,by Nigerien troops should be dismissed until proper report is issued from genuine channels of the Nigerian DHQ on the matter.

patches689:
Do you think south africa cares if ties are severed?
Every time Nigeria freaks out diplomatically it makes us look good - we appear stately, neutral, unemotional while you seem irrational, petulant and short sighted
You forget, Nigeria needs South Africa - we dont need you.

You are a fine one to talk,afterall,you depend on a Nigerian forum to survive and spread ridiculous lies.
As for diplomacy,i say 'lol'!,even the international community was apalled at the level of undiplomatic and amateur behaviour displayed by SA when your foreign minister came out to rail and rant about unfortunate incidents that happened months ago,using painful episodes of our war against BH as medium to vent anger.that is what i call childish and petulant!.
SA needs us more than we need you.

Centrifude:
And then they'll deny doing it the same way they embarrassed themselves and b*tched out, by denying that they recalled their Ambassador from S.A
They got cold feet after other African Countries didn't flow them.

Recalling our Ambassador/High Commissioner was a grave decision considering that no Nigerian was actually killed,nevertheless,it was the decision of the Senate Assembly to invite our Ambassador over for routine questioning.After which our Ambassador along with the Minister for Foreign affairs spent hours begging the Senate Assembly on your behalf,you should be grateful to them,really.
We really didnt want other African countries to do the same,afterall,we also have investments in SA and other SADC countries,if all African countries neglect SA,it would affect our investments and citizens in not only SA but also SADC region.

mzilakazi:
Bwahaha…Nigeria is more of a poor country than South Africa even China.In Brics,SA comes second when it comes to the level of poverty.
So how do you explain this one.
http://www.heretical.com/cannibal/nigeria.html
http://www.dailystormer.com/nigeria-restaurant-served-roasted-human-heads/

SA has 50 million people{half of which are hospitalized due to either HIV,mob attack or hard drug relapse},while Nigeria has 170 million mouths to feed.Yet we have double the size of your economy,and triple in FDI.
China has a billion people,yet they are way out of your league.
You can continue quoting your voodoo economical statistics that only exist on a white pages of an A4 sheet of paper.But fact remains that we are the biggest,richest and most powerful without needing to dig tunnels into the earth core searching for gold and diamond.
Your sources are dry,Nigerians do not eat human meat,there are several human right organisations in Nigeria,yet none have ever reported cannibalism.

mzilakazi:
I believe it, HIV spread like wild fire. There are many of them who get injured and those who help them do not exercise caution to avoid contact with blood. Moreover, one woman did not necessarily belong to one sexual partner. They were raped by various men at the same time. Whoever, feels like sleeping with one of them would choose randomly among the women.

And how do you know all these?.
It is quite hard to believe that all BH fighters are HIV positive,surely,even jihadists have a limit to the number of virgins they can rape,afterall,they wouldnt have been able to wreak havoc if they were drained to exhaustion by constant 'tumble between the sheets'.
Also,from the evidence uncovered after they were dislodged from communities,we can safely conclude that BH has a moderately sophisticated medical wing,so therefore,contaminated blood is properly managed.
Learn to look beyond the half baked propaganda being churned out by misguided media outlets.

Msauza:
Boko Haram infected women and girls with HIV.
http://www.miseeharris.com/214-girls-rescued-from-boko-haram-camps-are-pregnant-and-infected-with-hiv/

Your sources are not reliable,how can all the girls be pregnant and infected with HIV?,is it by dark magic or sorcery?.Some of the girls have not even reached puberty!.

Msauza:
Indonesia is setting an example of how the drug mules from Nigeria should be handled. Will SA follow the trend?
http://www.ladunliadinews.com/2015/04/fg-demands-corpses-of-executed.html?m=1

If there wasnt a demand in the first place,then there wouldnt be any supply.Try executing any Nigerians,and watch MTN go bankrupt in 24 hours.There are elements within the Nigerian government itching to sever all diplomatic ties with SA,your government knows not to aggravate the situation.

Msauza:
[size=20]Man this must not take your breath at all. Most Nigerians are cannibals, they eat human flesh and dog meats. Never trust any of their dishes and even my cousins have told me that. Some are reported to be exhuming dead bodies and eat them because of hunger.[/size]

Man,this is untrue.Nigerians do not eat human meat,neither do we exhume dead bodies,arent you taking it too far?
I'm greatly disturbed at the falsehood you constantly insist on peddling on this grand forum.
I agree that the events which occured at that restaurant were quite unfortunate,but that isnt a yardstick to measure the appetite or choice of delicacy of all Nigerians.
Nigerians are no more hungry than South Africans,so I dont understand what your misguided campaign is all about.
Yes,there are tribes that eat dog meat,but that is more of a traditional delicacy,just like some south africans that eat roasted worms.
If Nigerians were cannibals,then we wont have a population of 170 million.

JUST IN: Top ISIS Commander,Financial coordinator and crude oil smuggler- Abu Sayyaf is dead.His residence was stormed by US Special Forces of the Delta Force Command in Iraq,a bold move which sparked a gun duel and eventual assasination of Abu Sayyaf,leading to the arrest of his wife.

MILITARY DEPLOYS OVER SIX MORE FIGHTER JETS AGAINST BOKO HARAM
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http://dailytrust.com.ng/daily/top-stories/54856-b-haram-attack-military-deploys-six-fighter-jets
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"Our correspondent saw at least 6 fighter jets landing in Maiduguri International Airport.Not long after that,they took off and flew in the direction of Konduga,Bama,and Sambisa forest...."
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POINT: This report shows that the Nigerian Airforce has dozens of trained,experienced pilots contrary to what some misguided south africans love to ignorantly proclaim.

DieVluit:
Pure lies. BH isn't even a fixed organisation. It has factions.
No such.

ISIS and Al-Quaeda arent fixed groups too,they both have different factions united under one chosen leader-the 'caliph emeritus'.No terrorist group is a fixed unilateral sect.
Shekau III is the guy currently holed up somewhere in the Mandara mountains{or according to reports,fleeing deep into the arid plains of somalia},Shekau I and II were both taken out of commission by precision assaults of the NA STF.In the beginning we targetted their leadership hierachy thinking that it would topple the entire sect formation-much like what the US led coalition is currently doing in Iraq,but they proved slier and more resilient.
But at last,as we can now see,BH is in its dying days.The rest,as I say,remains history.

mzilakazi:
So, you haven't kill him after all?

Shekau is a fixed name for any leader of BH,If Shekau III were to die today,his replacement would also bear the name 'Shekau'.
For example: if the said 'replacement's name were to be originally Mohammed Al-Khalifa,on assuming leadership of the sect,the name would simply change to [s]Mohammed Al Khalifa Bin Abu-bakr Ibin Shekau[/s].Such is the way of islamic terrorists.Do you now understand?,yes?,good!.
We also cannot rule out the assumption that it may be his 'doubles' that were killed in NA raids,because frankly,it doesnt make sense that shekau accompanied his troops to assault an heavily guarded target such as Konduga,leaders of terrorist groups are always known to be highly insecure and paranoid,it is more in shekau's style to allow his men do the heavy fighting and then 'occupy' the town before he dares to personnally venture into such a town.

MikeCZAR:
Reports like this should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Ignore them until we have a savage horde of Arab-African terrorist coalition with dark head-scarves and billowing black flags barging through our door?....No,that isnt good enough,no,I say.Why,we have all suspected active ISIS support of BH for a while now,this report simply confirms the obvious truth.

mzilakazi:
Meanwhile:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0NY2B720150513?irpc=932

Another failed attack!
Just as we expected it.
I'm certain that hundreds of BH/ISWA fighters died in the aggressive confrontation that saw them forcefully repelled.Maiduguri can never fall,it is an impossibility considering the high concentration of sophisticated military hardwares and highly trained security personnels,including the most feared field operatives of the DSS,SBS,JSTF that have been stationed there.

JUST IN: Abu Alaa Al-Badri is dead.
The notorious second in command of ISIS was reportedly killed today by coalition airstrikes in Iraq.This in coming a few weeks after Abu-Bakr Al Bhagdadi,leader of ISIS was allegedly 'decapacitated' by aggressive airstrikes in Mosul.

A NUMBER OF BOKO HARAM/ISWA FIGHTERS CURRENTLY UNDERGOING INTENSIVE TRAINING IN IRAQ'S CAPITAL,MOSUL-ISIS CALIPHATE HEADQUATERS,WERE KILLED TODAY BY AN IRAQI YOUTH MILITIA
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http://www.basnews.com/en/news/2015/05/13/boko-haram-members-killed-in-mosul

SURVEILLANCE REPORTS SUGGEST THAT ABU-BAKR BIN SHEKAU- GRAND SHEIK OF BOKO HARAM/ISWA,MAY HAVE FLED TO LIBYA,SUDAN,EGYPT OR SOMALIA.WITH THE OCCURENCE OF RECENT EVENTS,SUSPICION CONTINUES TO MOUNT THAT SHEKAU MAY BE CONTROLLING BOKO HARAM/ISWA'S TATTERED RESISTANCE FROM ABROAD.IT IS HOWEVER UNCLEAR IF SHEKAU HAS LANDED IN MOSUL.

BOKO HARAM/ISWA FIGHTERS ARE REPORTEDLY AMASSING FORCES IN LAKE CHAD ISLANDS AND ALSO ALONG THE CLUSTERS OF ISOLATED OASIS' IN NORTHERN CAMEROON AS THEY ARE BEING CONTINOUSLY POUNDED AND FLUSHED OUT FROM THEIR ENCLAVES IN THE MANDARA MOUNTAINS AND SAMBISA FOREST BY NIGERIAN FORCES.

ALSO,THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF BOKO HARAM/ISWA FIGHTERS BEEN SPOTTED IN LIBYA; FURTHER REPORTS REVEALS THAT TOP BOKO HARAM/ISWA COMMANDERS AND EMISSARIES ARE MOST PROBABLY HOLDING TOP SECRET TALKS WITH SENIOR REPRESENTATIVES OF ISIS IN LIBYA FOR TRAINING,COVERT FUNDING AND WEAPON TRANSFER.

A NUMBER OF BOKO HARAM/ISWA FIGHTERS CURRENTLY UNDERGOING INTENSIVE TRAINING IN IRAQ'S CAPITAL,MOSUL-ISIS CALIPHATE HEADQUATERS,WERE KILLED TODAY BY AN IRAQI YOUTH MILITIA
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http://www.basnews.com/en/news/2015/05/13/boko-haram-members-killed-in-mosul

mzilakazi:
Eben with his mouth, confessed that they flew NAF gunships and helicopters, transporting the strike force. They used gunships to attack, they tracked and attacked the enermy in a warzone. Is that not enough to prove to you that he was directly involved.
Your new master, Mr Barlow.

Some of the new hardwares we purchased{including REVA MRAPs,Gazelle helicopters and even SAMIL multipurpose heavy trucks} were new to the inventory,therefore,we needed relevant skill in operating them,but the problem was: we had no time to learn,it would take weeks{at minimum} to even learn how to properly navigate an armed gazelle!.
The SA PMCs were learned in operating these hardwares mainly because some of the logistics were south african made hardwares.
Hence,the south african PMCs were mandated to assist our air and land forces in operating some of the new equipments on the battle field until such a time that we mastered them ourselves,this may have included flying of helicopters.

agaugust:
Nigerian revenue is not only oil, we also export gas....LNG.
In our reserves, Nigeria has more gas than oil in the ground and sea bed.

true talk

patches689:
Ancient helicopters and tanks bought under a LOAN before the oil crisis!!

Your government is now broke - oil prices have crashed - you have no more money, you need to borrow just to pay wages!!

SANDF is in difficulties - BUT IS STILL MORE CAPABLE THAN THE NIGERIAN MILITARY

Get it into your head, our standards are higher than yours, our "state of decline" is a level of proficiancy that Nigerian can never nor has ever acheived.

Also, your numbers are heavily inflated. 2 or beechking (for VIP Transport), 2-3 Alpha jet, 1-2 Gazelle etc

Same old same old from the resident clown.

Oil price havent 'crashed',as of today,a barrel of brent crude sells at $62.it is increasing per month.