₦airaland Forum

ugo4u:
Shooting them with rifles remains the most effective and cheapest way to bring them down.
Note BH drones are not sophisticated (military class), at best they're the type used by TV stations and school kids which could be gotten over the shelf. It doesn't make sense to use bombs or sophisticated missiles to neutralise them because
1) the drones usually fly at very low altitudes making it very difficult or almost impossible to be picked up by radar.
2) Air strikes or similar force will lead to collateral damages.
4) Again the cost of running sorties and logistics alike is unsustainable.
Possibly snipers placed strategically within the four walls of the base will do the job without sweat.

Perhaps, but then again,what happens when they begin strapping those drones with IEDs?, armed is such a crude fashion,those drones could rain down considerable damage and sharpenel when shot at from the ground using rifles.

Chelseafan99:
You are not being hundred percent truthful bro. Nigeria has attack drones no other country has them. The Super Tucano can dogfight and carry missiles. It is very modern and can defend our air space better than the F-7, which is old. So I don't see why you insist our Air Force is bad.

Quite a number of countries possess combat drones(UCAVs); US, China, Pakistan, and Israel comes to mind. Interestingly,the number of countries acquiring UCAVs is fast increasing.

Super Tucanos dogfighting?. Nah, that is a pipe dream. Dogfighting against which aircraft?, most of our immediate neighbors have far more advanced combat aircrafts.

My brother,our airforce is in a bad state,we'll be doing our fallen heroes a great disservice to claim otherwise.

Henry240:
A new MRAP would cost between 150k to 300K dollars, for a single unit.

So, should I save my money and buyer an S-300 air defence system, when my troops are dying from IEDs in an active war-zone because I imagine the French would bomb me with their shinny Rafales.

Or do why instead spend that money on 900 MRAPs for my troops?

I think I should buy the S-300 air defence system. Shinny cool equipment.

I am not really a big fan of SLBMS,but you have a serious attitudinal problem,you need to work on that.

Now I think the question isn't whether we are agitating for cool shiny toys over the hardwares we actually need, the problem is that we aren't even buying the things we need. Where are the proverbial 900 MRAPs that we should be buying in place of the S-300?,our soldiers are still dying everyday from avoidable attacks and ambushes at the TOW.

I don't care for an S-400 or SU-35s, what I am concerned about is the 1000 MRAPs and 12 JF-17s that we don't have.

jln115:
? How?

You said SA unitary budget is 9 times more than Nigeria's federal budget. Which is a wrong assertion, except of course,if you want to claim greater knowledge than we the citizens of the country.

wifeesnatcher:
Buhari is living on past age. proscribing IMN terrorist group was quick, baseless, senseless, illogical and unreasonable


religion group can be so deadly than he thought, perhaps because he silent ipob because of their disunity during the struggle, does he think these over determined Islamic fanatics will keep quiet and be releasing press like ipob?


why not release this man for at least 2 months and place him under house arrest with two public figure to stand as surety for him. Buhari had lost it, no economy talk, only cow and war sigh!

no wonder Nigeria can't experience industrial economy under his watch

Same way Nnamdi Kanu was released and he later disappeared.

Make una leave SLBMS alone abeg, he actually made some valid points.

bidexiii:
You don fall my hand; ... later you will be abusing our politicians and top military brass that they're corrupt, when you do not trust yourself.
Any way's it's not ur fault, an average Nigerian is born corrupt.

It isn't a Nigerian thing. Every single human being on Earth is born with the penchant for greed(greed is one of the individualist instincts that everyone possesses, that is why human societies evolved ways of curbing individual recklessness by agreeing on a set code of conduct or rule of law), it is only because African countries have weak institutions that is making corruptions thrive here.

jln115:
don't shoot the messenger!!! Regardless if its 14 or 24 Billion, it still doesn't change my original statement even slightly.

It changes it by a over $90 billion.

jln115:
Can't compare South Africa with Nigeria, or any other African country when it comes to National Budget.....South Africa has a budget 9 times than that of Nigeria.

Not up to 9 times, but certainly many times more than that of Nigeria. Bearing in mind that more than half your budget per fiscal year goes into debt servicing,recurrent expenditures and social programmes, not into my meaningful infrastructures or project.

PS: Just as Covert1 said, the federal budget is what the SA national budget surpasses, states have their own budgets too,and there are 36 autonomous states.

It is really funny the way some people wake up and think they are smarter,better informed,more competent and have more common sense than the thousands of policy makers and civil servants in Nigeria combined, isn't that the height of self-delusion?. If you disagree,they label you a child who knows nothing and have no idea how things work in the US and UK and on Mars.

El-Zakzaky starts building a Shiite empire, sets the stage for a total national Shiite revolution, gets sponsorship from Iran(in cash, training and arms), bullies the good people of Zaria, shuts down a chunk of Kaduna State every year for the purpose of a religious procession, publicly denounces the authority of the government and sovereignty of the nation, all these being done for decades uncurbed...what should be the government's response?, according to some erudite analysts on nairaland who apparently know more than the entire government put together, we employ "intelligence", just like the US and UK(let's all pretend both of those countries would have allowed such a situation in the first place). What does intelligence entail?, going by the gospel according to Saint Know-it-all nairaland political gurus; we release the mastermind of a potential radical theo-revolutionary sect and if any mischief maker were to use that opportunity to kill him and blame the government (which would then start the war that he was released to prevent),well, we scratch our heads, scrub our noses and of course blame the government. Just like always.

Oh,let's not forget we have to follow court orders,which were probably procured through the backdoor (but nevermind, we have to follow the orders anyway, because that is how it's being done in the US). Same court orders that have let loose dozens of looter on the alter of "self recognition", allowing them regroup for another shot at plundering our quaking commonwealth. If the government plays fair and right,and things turn upside down 10 years along the line,well, we call in the US and UK. Because that is how it is done.

#Offtopic

Here is a piece I wrote on a blog recently while commenting on the El-Zakzaky issue. I am posting here because it came up.


El-zakzaky: Preventing a Shiite revolution

As the Islamic Movement in Nigeria continues violent protest in Abuja,in a calculated bid to force the government to free their leader, Sheikh El-zakzaky, from detention,we must once again not get carried away by the flood of sympathy for the percieved victims (the IMN) and beer palour outrage at the percieved antics of the government,which is exactly the view that the Shiites wants to cultivate among the populace.

As much as freedom of religion is enshrined in the Nigerian constitution,it is however a very severe crime to build a personality cult and a group that opposes the sovereignty of the nation. What many Nigerians may not know is that the IMN was created as a vehicle for not only proselytizing people to Shia Islam,but also to ultimately bring about a Shiites revolution in Nigeria, similar to the Iranian revolution of 1979. Ibrahim El-zakzaky, a man once alleged to have made the statement, "there is no government but the government of Allah", has proven to be a fishbone in the throat of successive governments in Nigeria through provocative speeches and yearly mass processions causing public unrest; both of which are criminal at best and treasonable at worst. If there was ever a chance that Nigeria would be islamized,it would most probably be by the IMN-led Shiites,if allowed to continue unchecked. In the case of Sheikh Zakzaky, one can only wonder if this is all one man's megalomania or a grander Iranian plot to ship off its system of "guardianship of the Islamic jurist" to Africa.

It is therefore my opinion that the federal government proscribes IMN and it's affiliates before the situation gets out of hand. A group whose followers takes inspiration from the radical theocracy of Iran and practically worship it's leader in the same form that the Iranians revere the Ayatollahs, poses a danger to a secular democracy such as Nigeria.

Sheikh Zakzaky must remain in protective custody not just to prevent him from having freedom to plot further mischief,but also to protect him from harm. It should be understood that if such a personality were to die,he becomes a matyr and the centrepiece for an insurgency(in the spirit of Boko Haram's Mohammed Yusuf). Wouldn't it then make sense that those who would want to destabilize the nation would need only to kill him and blame the government?. In this case,should El-zakzaky be free to roam unprotected, it could spell doom for peace in Nigeria.

As much as we must have utmost respect for judicial processes in Nigeria,we must also recognise that there are times when national interest supercedes rule of law.

El-zakzaky: Preventing a Shiite revolution

As the Islamic Movement in Nigeria continues violent protest in Abuja,in a calculated bid to force the government to free their leader, Sheikh El-zakzaky, from detention,we must once again not get carried away by the flood of sympathy for the percieved victims (the IMN) and beer palour outrage at the percieved antics of the government,which is exactly the view that the Shiites wants to cultivate among the populace.

As much as freedom of religion is enshrined in the Nigerian constitution,it is however a very severe crime to build a personality cult and a group that opposes the sovereignty of the nation. What many Nigerians may not know is that the IMN was created as a vehicle for not only proselytizing people to Shia Islam,but also to ultimately bring about a Shiites revolution in Nigeria, similar to the Iranian revolution of 1979. Ibrahim El-zakzaky, a man once alleged to have made the statement, "there is no government but the government of Allah", has proven to be a fishbone in the throat of successive governments in Nigeria through provocative speeches and yearly mass processions causing public unrest; both of which are criminal at best and treasonable at worst. If there was ever a chance that Nigeria would be islamized,it would most probably be by the IMN-led Shiites,if allowed to continue unchecked. In the case of Sheikh Zakzaky, one can only wonder if this is all one man's megalomania or a grander Iranian plot to ship off its system of "guardianship of the Islamic jurist" to Africa.

It is therefore my opinion that the federal government proscribes IMN and it's affiliates before the situation gets out of hand. A group whose followers takes inspiration from the radical theocracy of Iran and practically worship it's leader in the same form that the Iranians revere the Ayatollahs, poses a danger to a secular democracy such as Nigeria.

Sheikh Zakzaky must remain in protective custody not just to prevent him from having freedom to plot further mischief,but also to protect him from harm. It should be understood that if such a personality were to die,he becomes a matyr and the centrepiece for an insurgency(in the spirit of Boko Haram's Mohammed Yusuf). Wouldn't it then make sense that those who would want to destabilize the nation would need only to kill him and blame the government?. In this case,should El-zakzaky be free to roam unprotected, it could spell doom for peace in Nigeria.

As much as we must have utmost respect for judicial processes in Nigeria,we must also recognise that there are times when national interest supercedes rule of law.

http://www.opinionnigeria.com/el-zakzaky-preventing-a-shiite-revolution-in-nigeria-by-edebhagba-justice/

Kay17:
Blitzkrieg is basically that. You drive your forces rapidly from A to G without concern for the flanks; with focus on speed and surprise as a means to paralyze the enemy's decision-making

Blitzkrieg is not even a coherent battle doctrine, it's merely a desperate strategy that was employed by the Germans during the interwar period and WW II.

Even assuming BH/ISWAP planners had the requisite number of brain cells necessary to formulate it(which is doubtful at best), it will never work. Such a strategy requires air cover and a whole lot of heavy armour on the part of the terrorists; BH/ISWAP has non of the first and little of the second.

Heard a army Colonel and some other soldiers died in an ambush in Borno yesterday.

Once again, recent events in Nigeria has proven that when a people become ignorant or deliberately suppress the lessons of history,history will revenge by repeating itself.

Most will agree that 1966 was a mistake, but this is 2019,and we are about to make the same mistake. Does it mean that there are no longer kidnappers,bandits and killers in the south?, if no,then why do we now hastily ascribe every recent killings in Nigeria to Fulanis?. This toxic posture of sounding "mahuru mahuru" against a particular minority ethnic group,namely the Fulanis, has become a national pastime for not only the opposition,but also the ignoramuses and political dunderheads that makes up a bulk of the populace.

Nigerians have allowed themselves become puppets in the hands of desperate politicians and propagandists,all due to misplaced paranoia. We have always been an emotional country, but I think it is time to discard brash emotions and don the armour of logic. What we are doing to the Fulanis is reminiscent of what the Federalists allegedly did to the Easterners in 1966(or at least,what the Easterners claim was done to them). We should not segregate a section of our populace and label them criminals because of the activities of a few.

Bola Tinubu captured the situation in his eloquently crafted rhetorical question, "where are the cows?". In the same vein, I will like to ask Nigerians,where are the cows?.

jarell:
Algerians ain't Arabs

As far as anyone is concerned, culturally and politically, North African countries are Arab. Even the native Amazighs have become arabized over the centuries.

Africa,in contemporary terms, is sub-saharan Africa.

bidex111:
She fine & sexy

Ara II?

Algerian1:
its only about this hhhh . thats football ! all teams wins and loses ! Semi final is a good result . next AFCON you will do better

It was painful for us indeed, Algeria made history by defeating us for the first time ever in AFCON,you guys once again displayed your aggressive arab instincts on the pitch. We both did well,but your country was lucky.

Nice game all round.Goodluck on the finals.

akinhanger:
General Overseer of Omega Fire Ministries International, Apostle Johnson Suleman has expressed his dissatisfaction over the new Nigerian passport with 'herdsmen inscribed in it.'



https://mobile.twitter.com/APOSTLESULEMAN/status/1149262736389488640

[url]https://all-gists..com/2019/07/its-shmeful-apostle-suleman-reacts-to-new-nigerian-passport-with-herdsmen.html[/url

Na wa for this pastor o,all the pages in the passport have different images that represents the cultural demographics of Nigeria,just because one page has fulani herdsmen depicted on it doesn't mean the government is plotting doom.

MrWTF:
[b] Good morning Nairaland. There's this annoying Block industry just behind my house. The sound of their machine keeps causing pain to my ears. I can't sleep in the afternoon anymore.

The worst is that, they just brought in Another Machine, which makes the noise even worst.

I have been thinking of the agency who's in charge of this nonsense, that I can report to.

Any idea on what to do please?

L

Write a petition to the Commissioner for Environment of your state on the issue, send copies of the letter to LASEMA(if you reside in Lagos), Ministry of Environment, House Committee on Environmental affairs of your state's House of Assembly through the office of the HoA clerk, and the DPO of any nearby police station.

Alternatively, you can get a lawyer,go to state high court and procure an order for suspension of all activities of the block industry pending hearing of the case(based on breach of environmental laws) and a sub-poena inviting the owner to court.

bidexiii:
PRESS RELEASE

SPECIALLY/NEWLY PROMOTED LIEUTENANT GENERAL LO ADEOSUN IS STILL THE CHIEF OF TRAINING & OPERATIONS NIGERIAN ARMY

Contrary to fake news going round insinuating or suggesting appointment of Lieutenant General LO Adeosun as Chief of Army Staff of the Nigerian Army, members of the public are hereby once again informed that Lieutenant General LO Adeosun has just been given special/accelerated promotion from Major General to Lieutenant General and formally communicated to him by the Chief of Army Staff Lt Gen TY Buratai.

Lt Gen LO Adeosun is only granted special promotion by the President, Commander -in - Chief, of the Armed Forced of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, President Muhammadu Buhari for his extra ordinary feats, exemplary leadership, loyalty and uncommon commitment in the counter insurgency operation in the North Eastern part of Nigeria. He still retains his appointment/position as Chief of Training and Operations of the Nigerian Army.

Any contrary information is baseless, fake news and should be disregarded.

SAGIR MUSA
Colonel
Acting Director Army Public Relations
9 July 2019

So who is the most superior officer in the Nigerian Army,the CoAS or the CoTO?, since both of them have the same rank.

I think Tyronne Ebeue is the finest,though he isn't part of the AFCON squad.

Litmus:
Military should not be too hasty in refuting these allegations; at least, not allegations of aircrafts dropping weapons. Such aircraft does not have to be Nigerian military aircraft just ones disguised to look as if Nigerian, which is what you`d do if you were acting clandestinely in Nigerian territory. Hope Military is conducting investigations and not just dismissing the claims from afar as ludicrous because of same. If West is behind much of these insecurity issues this is just the type of things they would get up to.

My thoughts exactly. If there is even some small kernel of truth in the news that was published,then the military needs to investigate.

Do we even have an intelligence network at all?.

jpphilips:
I am happy someone mentioned this; what it means is that Nigeria has fallen under the hammer of the global hawks as recent as 5yrs ago, apparently, we didn't learn from that experience, now listen up, there was nobody in Obama's security circle that didn't want the US to make that money from Nigeria make no mistakes about that, jonathan committed several global blunders, not only did he pay for it with his office, he narrowly escaped with his life, that phone call to PMB was his ticket to a new life.

Jonathan out of ethnic sentiment didn't know that what befell his administration was mere ill luck, as a result, he switched to deception mode mostly to obfuscate his southern supporters, boko haram was given a narrative of "Northern problem" instead of "National problem", every global incident was branded a scam, at a point he f00led his minions that BHT was a force to destabilize his administration, he stopped listening to foreign affairs because he believed his problem was at home, OBJ being a proxy of global hawks told him what was happening in Washington, he refused to listen, OBJ fell out with him.

The second crime of Jonathan was supporting moles in his administration that compromised the intelligence of the global hawks.
Even at that, none of these misdemeanors of his landed Nigeria in any major trouble.

The biggest crime of Jonathan was falling out with the most powerful man in congress Late Sen John Mccain (Rep) Arizona, a man that is more powerful than most African presidents by influence. The longest serving senator in the armed services committee.
Now, study that Leahy's ban on Nigeria, it was a congressional ban with Mccain's hands all over it, Mccain at a point personally threatened Jonathan with invasion, the human rights clause in Leahy's ban is nowhere comparable to what US allies elsewhere does, however, that strained relationship built on Chibok denial (at at the time he was chairing the Subcommittee on African Affairs under the foreign affairs committee in Congress), landed jonathan in a big mess.

what did Jonathan do? he claimed Chibok was a scam, the US foreign affairs committee with the assistance of Africom all the way from Stuttgart, later confirmed that abduction, Africom provided the evidence on which michelle obama and others joined the BBOG campaign.
That day was the date the global hawks marked jonathan for destruction.

Most of his minions thought that loosing that election he still had the chance to fight back, hell no, Africom SOF command was already in Ghana monitoring the elections, if he had at least refused to concede defeat, he wouldn't last the next 12 hrs.
It was Mccain that destroyed Jonathan not Obama.

Compare it with this present arms gift to boko haram and ISWAP, do you still think there won't be serious consequences on the global stage?
Don't you think we should be discussing that MNJTF for arms recovery by now? Only a foolish optimist can deny the dark realities of the moment.

Jonathan was booted out because he was incompetent and lackadaisical. Even he knew it. I agree that the west resented him,but ultimately,it was Nigerians who rejected him. However, of all his inadequacies, I do not think Jonathan was blinded by tribal sentiments,he was simply cautious of the Northern elites,and rightfully so. When this BH insurgency started, many parts of the muslim North saw it as a just cause. Even the current president at a time was once quoted saying "a war against Boko Haram is war against the North",some elites demanded that BH be given amnesty in form of monetary inducement. Of course,it was only natural for Jonathan to be wary of the North,and all the events surrounding the region; hence,to him,BH was a northern project to destabilize his government. He wasn't just selling the story,he actually believed it. To an extent,it was even true.


The Obama administration took a hard stance against Jonathan because they perceived his government as highly corrupt and inefficient. A government that even went ahead to deny the abduction of the chibok girls for over a month, an action driven by suspicion and paranoia. Obama flew circles round Africa,from Ghana to Kenya,but never stepped foot into Nigeria, that in itself was a diplomatic statement that showed the level of contempt he held for the Nigerian government. So it wasn't about John McCain, it was all about Jonathan's incompetence and Obama's disapproval.

Ultimately,if Jonathan had handled the BH situation more seriously, he wouldn't have been booted out by the Nigerian people. No matter what the US wanted.

Blue3k:
I half agree with you. Nigeria was under no obligation to subject its sovereignty to the court. Cameroon did initiate case as wikipedia says. Relinquishing our sovereignty over this was a weak move by Nigeria. Im just assuming they didnt want war with france backing its Cameroon.

Who knows if Nigeria wouldn't have xome out stronger after a war. At least they would have to take security architecture seriously. If they dont it would have been crushing loss.

If a war had happened, we would have emerged far more stronger than we are today. War would have hardened us,shaped our polity, motivated us,and affected the style of leadership.

jpphilips:
Young man, you are speaking from a position of deficient knowledge, Nigeria did not institute the ICJ case over Bakassi, it came to all of us in bewilderment when Cameroon did on the 29th of March 1994 at the direction of France to secure a global justification to teach Nigeria a bitter lesson over the well positioned ECOMOG influence in the West African sub-region and gulf of guinea by extension.

Could Nigeria have pulled out of the ICJ under OBJ? That wasn't the norm in the 90's, less likely under OBJ at a time Nigeria was struggling to pull out from strings of intl kinks.
Permit me to enjoy the pictures in peace, we have derailed the thread enough, I have spoken more than necessary, do have a great evening.

I respect that you have a very vivid imagination,a skill that would definitely come in handy if you were to venture into the movie industry.

Let me reiterate that I never said Nigeria instituted the case,I said Nigeria shouldn't have agreed to be a party to the case. In case you don't know,it isn't mandatory to appear before the ICJ for a case, a country can choose to dismiss such charges or pull out of the court at any time.

A good evening to you too.

Litmus:
Makes sense since Nigeria appears under a 4-prong attack. An Arab agenda would focus primarily on that whole terrorism/religion gig; therefore, Bokoharam, Iswap with future scope for escalating attacks on Nigeria, being those issues brewing in Mali, the liberty to increase attacks on christian churches and Nigerias own simmering and unresolved Shia issue (perceived or actual persecution of the Shia community and the imprisonment of Ibrahim Zakzaky).

A BiafrA (IPOB) ( agenda would focus on sowing unrest in the East, with further scope for escalating problems for Nigeria in Delta state. I do not believe IPOB is behind majority the smear Nigeria campaign and ethic stoking.

A four-pronged attack - as Nigeria appears currently undergoing - makes sense from the point of view of a Western lead initiative to either destroy Nigeria (for whatever reasons) or keep her impoverished, needy and uninfluential. West are experienced in long term planning, masters of Chess to our Drafts. The 4-pronged attack appears: (1) the military engagements Nigeria is currently experiencing in the NE, (2) attacks on farmers in order to create famine situation (3) Ethnic conflict stoking evident to an extraordinary scale online with every issue concerning Nigeria, from fashion to Football (the later, a renowned unifying force concertedly challenged now by inexplicable ethnic stoking). The creation of Radio stations to facilitate and compound those ethic issuers. And (4) Tarnishing Nigeria as exemplified by unfathomable statistics and constant barrage of negative news such as Nigerians criminality abroad.

And there’s the uncanny convenience of the thing: meaning the known origin of Bokoharam as well as the known tendency for certain Arab states to fund terrorism; the known age old farmer-herders clashes in Nigeria; the known Biafra war, all conveniently can be brought up to explain these conflicts and issues highlighted above and thus hide the clandestine hand of the West. You`d blame IPOB for stoking ethnic hatred and smearing Nigeria as is the rage to an unprecedented level now; blame the age old communities tensions and occasional classhes in the Central Belt for the suspiciously targeted farmers , blame the fighting in the NE, which is generating huge displaced populations as well as damaging economic outlook and insecurity for Nigeria on Terrorism etc etc. Why you"d even blame your military for all the set backs and not the West that probably provides the Terrorists that work for them vital intelligence because of the token attacks carried out in Niger, Cameroon and Chad, every now and then, and whoes occasionalness and relative insignificance you put down to the effectiveness of Chadian and Cameroonian armies as opposed to ours.

and, no, even if capacity not occupied by different spheres of national interests, Russian, Chinese and especially British intelligence would divulge nothing to our intelligence people what they may know of French activities in undermining African Nations.

All these subterfuge just to topple Nigeria?. Don't go around apportioning blame to foreign powers,they are merely taking advantage of a situation that was created by decades of bad leadership.

jpphilips:
Nothing to apologise for, life is a choice!!





Have you bothered to find out why your Tucano is delaying? since the Rann bombing, can you beat your chest in confidence that you are gonna nail another Tucano type deal in this lifetime? dont answer it.
here is the thing pal, the world work differently, selling little arms to you makes no difference because your money oil the wheels of their economy. Libya and Iraq got so much military and civilian support from the same people that destroyed them, thats is the decoy that paint them in good light, you hear sentences like "we did all we could but Nigeria refused to be responsible bla bla bla bla bla"




It is irresponsible to say to "hell with France" considering her role in global politics, let me quickly refresh your memory, after the ICJ judgement in Hague, OBJ never wanted to honour the green tree agreement, he wanted to use the same Abacha gra-gra posture till that faithful evening when the Elsse palace intl hotline buzzed Aso-rock, haven waited for Nigeria to announce a date to no avail, immediately after that 27 mins call, OBj's countenance was no longer the same, like a flash of lightning he called the then governor of cross river state and said " Donald, we have agreed on a date"
you dont want to lead a country when a superior power threatens it.
Ask Donald duke, he told this story himself at the 60th birthday lecture in honour of Ju5stice Charles Archibong (rtd) held in Lagos in 2013.

Have you forgotten so soon that your MNJTF was reinvigorated under this government after a trip to Elesse palace, why did Chad, Niger & Cameroon not agree immediately till PMB went to France?

What is the difference between what I proposed and the MNJTF? France backed Chad, Niger and Cameroon are having a field day in your backyard but that's ok, but when I suggest a Chinese MNJTF for arms recovery, everyone becomes uncomfortable undermining the importance of what is about to come.

I dont know how you see our country but out there on the global round table, Nigeria is a mere pawn in the chess game of the gods!!
Don't push your luck too far.





You know this because you have read our diplomatic playbook or what? stop tossing around rough guesses where you are supposed to be factual, our playbook is empty, Nigeria plays along the interest of those that can ruin her, that's ABC of diplomacy in Nigeria if you have been opportuned to sit there.
Nigeria is more loyal to China and Saudi arabia than any western country today largely because Saudi offers "protection" from the growing fans of iranian intelligence in Kaduna while China is the money man!!

No nation is a friend to everyone because interests are diverse, in 2015 when your budget deficit was more than 2T naira, Christine Lagarde was here to secure a commitment that IMF will play a major role in financing that deficit, Nigeria ran to the Chinese Exim bank to fund it because they lured us with a better deal, have you forgotten that IMF, world bank and other Bretton Woods are personal properties of world powers? You expect them to give you a standing ovation and remain friends?





Save this thread, I gave you my word, if nothing is done about these arms gift to BHT, in the nearest future, you will hear on your radio about US drone strike in Konduga and Bauchi, it will be so normal like suicide become part of us.
The worst that will happen is we protest in Abuja like Pakis in Karachi.

Fear mongering is not sound logic.


On the Bakassi issue, Nigeria erred by going to the international court in the first place. What Abacha would have done is to pull out of the ICJ,and flood the place with military presence. But Obasanjo going to the ICJ meant he had to abide by it's judgement; any attempt to go against the decision would have been viewed as aggression and rightfully so.

We ceded that region based on a 1913 agreement between Britian and Germany, in essence,the court made its decision based on colonial documents. How can a territory that is occupied majorly by Nigerians and has benefitted from Nigerian government policies be termed Cameroonian territory?. France wouldn't have brazenly issued threats if we hadn't gone to court and lost,the best they would have done was to arm and fund their puppet regime. Even President Buhari once alluded to the fact that we shouldn't have followed Cameroon to the Hague.

You are just stringing events together to paint a gloomy picture. Nobody is invading or bombing Nigeria anytime soon. Nigeria wasn't bombed when BH had about 22 local governments in Borno and Yobe flying the obsidian flag of jihad, is it now that they have been relegated to hit-and-run attacks that we'll be bombed?.

jpphilips:

You believe a Nigerian invasion will implode sub-saharan Africa with refugees but you don't believe that terrorists taking control of Nigeria's most populous areas streched deep into the Sahel will produce the same effect?

Are north east Nigerians not refugees already in Cameroon & Benin republic? Add North west to it and tell us if you haven't imploded already.
The refugee spread isn't gonna spread down south neither will the insurgency for very obvious reasons.
It doesn't mean that iSWAP at one time or the other wont strike startegic targets for propaganda and morale boosting.

Im not talking about an "Assad must go" kinda invasion no!! Its the invasion that permits them to freely operate on Nigerian soil as an occupying force, that will open the flood gates of weapon testing, battle field scenario studies and Nigerians will become the ultimate collateral damage.

Several interests are at stake first is China's growing influence in Africa taking out IMF and world bank market shares with his more attractive Exim bank loans by implication owning most of African infrastructure.

Chinese & Russian arms sales to African countries, chinese incursion into African resource fields hitherto controlled by the west.
The vast resources of the Gulf of guinea which America feels presently their companies don't have the lion's share.
A US naval fleet in the Gulf of Guinea will be very strategic to their interests, especially in supporting Indian Ocean operations and elsewhere.

The day most of you cheering this mess will get the priviledge of sitting on that table where Nigeria's fate is decided, it will dawn on you that the annihilation of a Nigerian Battalion is nothing by consequences when Iswap drives around with our trucks in the eyes of the West.

Nigeria has officially been notified, the media blacked it out, we hurriedly retooled the NNSBS for the job, few months later, ISWAP took their patrol boats, do you sincerely think that incident won't have consequences?

As at today, the west view Nigeria as a supplier of manpower, tools & equipments to terrorists like Iran was called the central bank of terror landing it in her 4th round of security council sanctions, despite having the support of 2 members on that table, Nigeria has no-one on that table and you still doubt me?

France has already made it explicitly clear to Nigeria that her inactions is destabilizing his babies Niger, Cameroon and Chad and must do something about it, the negotiation window is as good as shut, our military 3 wise men are now scratching their heads how to convince the CIC to reopen negotiations, apparently CIC will be in Paris before this year runs out,
Iranian revolutionary guards just landed on US foreign terror list, guest who is next??
you have no idea what is coming.

I am sorry to say it,but your submissions should be dismissed as mere hollywood fantasy. It would make for a good novel,but won't fly in reality.

You claim that the west views Nigeria as a supplier of arms to terrorists in the region,yet Trump's State Department has approved the sale of highly weaponized Tucanos to the Nigerian Airforce, the NN got three new ships from France last year or so, and we have been purchasing small arms(including rifles, grenades etc) from Western allies like Poland, Ukraine and Israel,among so many other packages. Do you think the west would supply weapons of any kind to a country they perceive to be a major donor to terrorists?.

To hell with France, we don't care what they think. Weren't they the ones who masterminded the bombing of Tripoli that led to the fall of Libya and cascade of arms to renegade groups and militias in the Sahel?. If they care so much about their francophone puppets,they should deploy more legionnaires to aid them; our neighbors are a very big part of the problem anyway,they aided and abetted BH initially,and ISWAP/BH still recruits heavily from Chad,Niger and Cameroon. In politics and war,every action has consequences,and inaction itself is an action.

Acquiring friends in the UNSC has never been a problem for Nigeria, however,we have chosen to retain diplomatic balance and be everybody's friend,which I find perfectly sensible. However,that position can be reversed if we are faced by aggression from any side.

Ultimately,I think you are just raising unnecessary alarm. BH will not proliferate beyond it's current area of influence,and sooner or later,they will be decimated into oblivion.

tactius:
Ok...I know I'm going to be called names for this, but here goes.

Several years ago, we privatised power...and since then power has been in private hands.

And one of the biggest problems has been financing. Yes, financing of power.

A lot of Nigerians don't pay for power. Add the fact that the bills we are paying are set below the actual cost of power. This has driven away investors, and we fail to attract new ones.

As a result, DISCOS and GENCOS don't have enough money. Last year, one of the DISCOS gave up and handed back over to the government because it was not making enough money to do business properly.

And the fact is, millions of Nigerians feel ENTITLED to free power. You know, if you guys were running businesses, and people came in and took your products for free...you would be wiped out financially.

If we want power to work...government has to allow the DISCOS charge for power. YES...power will cost a lot. YES...we would be paying N30000 and above per month. And the DISCOS should meter everyone(which is what is happening with MAP by the way).

But the thing is POWER IS PRIVATE....and POWER is now a business.(and ironically Chidioka's government was the one responsible for privatising power). And the reason why we are only seeing 5-6 hours of light per day...is because THAT IS WHAT OUR BILLS CAN PAY FOR.

Let's be realistic.

Do you think the average Nigerian can afford N30,000 electricity bill every month?