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PeaceJoyLove:
I am the one who called you sister here. And you are. Are you not a sister? Maybe I should have used dear transgender bro/sis. And yes, I used good friend cos you aren't my enemy. But we may not talk now. The Bible has told us about our enemies, who are principalities and rulers of this world.

My sister, I am not God. Even non christians can enter heaven. I do not know if you understand the prerequisite to Heaven. According to my Bible, just accept Jesus and you are saved. That's all. And remain in Jesus' camp. So just as the thief crucified with Jesus accepted Him at the last moment, a nonchritian and a brutal person, or a Boko Haram leader, a killer of many souls and ritualist can enter heaven.

Now to the negative names. Listen, I say what I see which is the truth. I do not just say my words casually. I see before I say. Go and check yourself. You are keeping malice with me. And "a no send you" meaning ...I do not care...I do not give a he.ck. Those manipulative games that you start writing or saying I hate you will not work. I will not pet you this time. I have seen it in the spirit and I'm not going back on my words.

Return to your thread and explain who Ellen White is. Answer all the questions and do not chicken out. Tell us why she founded a church, why she gave you a dictribe based on the great controversy which she wrote, and then put in the same place women cannot pastor? I do not understand it. Note...I did not say women can pastor...but I am confused here your church.

Cra.zy: be sincere and truthful with yourself. Am I the first to say this? It took me long to say it, but I need you know the truth. I know it pained you such came out from me even publicly. But I had no choice.

Deceptive: Everyone born of woman is capable of this. But you know yourself. You know how you lure people or your so called friends to something...and you stay away when the person starts struggling in it. And then, even return privately or secretly to discuss but still stay away so you look good to many people. This is the nature in many Nigerians too. Martin Luther King Jr was bold to say the truth as it is. Though he died, he lives till date.

Lying: same as above

Bipolar: Seriously, go check yourself. I am damn serious. Cos the way you put up two faces to me, and you also believe others (esp any smart person) can put on two faces is better explained with the condition. When victims of bipolar are in crisis, everyone is their enemy. They are afraid of everything. But that time, their brains start working efficiently. But when they are on medication, they can be so lovely....but then, their level of intelligence drops to a normal person. And they reason below the level you expect. You may not see it in you, but anyone who has interacted long enough with you understands this. I have no choice but to say this here cos I am not ready for a private talk with you. If you try that call, you will be shocked. You know I am a man of my words. This you know very well. What I say I will do I will do. The only way I will not is when my master Jesus says No. And I will say: Yes, Lord. I know his voice because I know Him very well.

Non Christian adventist: If you cannot know who is who, and you have been advised to ask Jesus but no answer or signal after many years, Jesus has not given you an answer but you continously used your brain, then, you are not a real believer. Maybe I was wrong to use Christian. I'm sorry about that cos you can easily write your religion while filling form as a Christian. But you are not a believer if you do not know how to pull answer from Christ. That is the issue. You know you asked for my forgiveness when you said you doubted me. And I said if it makes you feel ok...you have it. So, it was just an empty talk. I know you to be like that. Only a sober people ask for forgiveness. You weren't sober at all.

Sister or whichever gender you are, all the confusions in your life as a result of speaking with too many people you met of NL, go and sit down with Jesus and He will tell you the truth. The secret things of life belong to God, and He shows His own. Ask for the spirit of discernment cos it is a gift we need at this end time. You will just be making silly mistakes by making guesses or using flesh to do thing..or use your own brain to investigate and you do it wrongly. When you can use those time you use to do useless investigations by training yourself to hear from the Holy Spirit.

Be sincere with yourself. Have you asked Holy Spirit about the confusion you have had with NL and its users and have you got answers? Is it not your brain you have been using do far? You are bi pokat cos at times the answers are in front of you, but you dont see them. I saw it many times, and I just shook me head that.. waoooo! She didn't see it. I even placed answers in your front and you missed it many times. See, I am trained. I'm telling you the first time. All those accusations and guesses...everytime you say them, I just shake my head that this one is a dead christian oooo spiritually... yet she goes out to show she is great.

Now to you: Do you want to say you did not call me names too? I will mention two:
1. You said I am possessed
2. You said I am not a Christian and i am on your prayer list. You kept repeating this on this forum many times...to portray me as evil. You said I'm evil may time.

Now that the spirit gave me direction and lead to talk about you ....uh la la... you are now the victim. I refused to talk about it for so long cos I didnt have the permission to talk. But I know it is not to hurt you, but for someone reading this. Readers, you do not need anyone or pastor to know God intimately..ask for the gifts, and fruits of Holy Spirit. And you will receive power.

Funny, I appreciate that I am on your prayer list. And I thank you. Max is there too. Glory be to God. Bass...R is there... louange Dieu. Kobo...is there ...Slava Bogu.

Now listen, in the present of all...before men and God, I respect the positive gifts in you.
1. Passion for Nigeria. Go and read about "Tomato Jos". Google it and see the similarities btw you. Indo not need to say too much. You.are smart you will get like 50% of what I mean. The remaining 50%, when your head is calm and you do the right thing, I will tell you when to contact me. For now, you are banned. You are.

Listen, if you can see in the spirit and if God can show you what you could have achieved, you will understand why devil is covering your eyes and making you to run to other people. You know I keep my communication with you opened for years and you can just get me anytime. I did not just...it was the great vision i saw. What you can achieve. What God has planned for you. I am not God, but I know it is an honor to be a vessel. So, when i see someone who carries a super shining star, uh la la....I connect. This is the power of the gift of discerning spirit. Lady, I'm saying this cos no man born of woman can stop the glory of God in your life. Only you can. And devil is using fear. And with these boys and girls on NL stressing you...lol. let me be silent. Listen, no human can stop the purpose of God in your life except you. The zeal is there burning. That zeal is where the vision is. But everything is boxing it from becoming reality. If you like take action....if you like stay there. That's your cup of tea. Me, ....a don deliver the message again.

2. Passion to Know God. Listen, just keep asking for the gifts of the Holy Spirit. There is no one in you. Sorry to burst your bubble. You need just one, and you will be in Adventist and be making moves. I do not hate Adventists. I swear, when you have a gift ...oh la la...you will know another lover of Jesus. When you enter anywhere, you will know if Jesus is there or not. So, its not a matter of saying you will look for your own church when you find yourself in a city your denomination is not. This comment of yours that you will look for your people is the reason I said...no no no...I cannot interact with this person again. See...you cannot have the Holy spirit with his gifts and get to a place He is moving and say you want to leave. You willl be glued there. So, for you to say that it is in your denomination you will only worship means the spirit is not in you. Cos there is nowhere He cannot move and when He moves you want to stay with Him. My Sister or my whatever gender you are, if you deeply understand the concept of what I have written here...... OMG!

Likewise, you get to a place and you sense evil, you run away. They cannot even get near you to preach..I have been invited to churches that it's at the entrances I saw the evil there, and I turned back instantly. I did not even enter. Is it Inthat showed myself? Nope. I am.just a normal person. I only follow the lead of the Holy Spirit.

I hate it when people just come forward and make statements about Jesus and cannot defend them well, or explain it well. I haven't heard Him warn me to stop putting this truth here on NL. I am sure this truth is for many souls hungry for God but are confused by many false people here.

By the way, I realised that after you had remained stubborn for many months with that statement you are ibo in your profile (which you are not), you decided to remove it. Of course, you can see how you used it stu.pidly without really getting the real story behind why i told you to remove it. Ok. I checked and I even saw your recent comment about tribal war and how people put their tribe out first. Waooo! You can never hear me say I'm my tribe first. Never. I do not even want people to know my tribe cos I want to be a Nigerian first. I will just say the truth. Yoruba has messed up with recent agitation for it's own nation...nonsense thing. Ibo is bullying everyone to get to Aso rock. You can read all I have been writing about ibo. Fulani and herdman are nons.ense. Hausa and illiteracy are in holy weeding. Bla bla bla..I say the truth the way it is. Maybe you tell ppl you are black first before you are American? Lol. Maybe you mention your state or city first before saying you are american? Lol. You just read here, and allow things you read influence your judgement and behavior. A publish call out and bashing you reformatted your brain. And you have seen it, and you even wrote about it. May sense fall on you in Jesus' name. You better say Amen too. Amen!!!

Have a nice Friday. Cheers!

Mercy....
Now my gender's being questioned as if he hasn't ever spoken to me on the phone before several times. I thought you were using the word "sister" as an endearing term here and over there. Not to signify my gender. Although having an "F" by my moniker proves nothing, you, yourself know that I am female.
I am not struggling with my gender at all. I know exactly how I was born and will remain that way until death.
When you used "sister" on your "denomination" thread, I looked at that context clues to assume that you were being kind for once....that's all. I was wondering how a person can treat someone so harshly and inhumane, then turn around and offer praises to them.
Kindof like how the people did Jesus....one minute praising Him and the next responsible for His death...yelling "crucify Him."
Let me in no way say that I'm perfect cause I'm not.....just showing an example.

The point I wanted to make is that we are NOT friends. A person who has disrespected me in the manner you have for almost 3 years, could in no way be a friend, associate or brethren. I am not desperate for friends here on an online platform nor have I ever looked for any.
I have not contacted you for months now and by the grace of God never will again....that is a promise.
This wasn't about calling....which I could do but won't. You kept telling me to call you (on some threads) just about a (2) weeks ago anyway, but I refused. You don't have my new number so that's why you aren't able to call me....let us both be very real here.
So you and I both know that it isn't about a call at this point.
Yes sir/madam ....what has gone on between us is a spiritual warfare.
Anyone reading anything I wrote who was searching for truth was discouraged, harassed or frightened away through your lies.
You did a massive "PR" campaign built on straight lies...both publicly and privately to disparage me. You have a powerful influence over this N.L....that I know.
The young & older folks here are scared to associate with me cause of the consequences of doing so.
That won't stop me from speaking truth.
My confidence is in Christ Jesus...only.

In regards to writing about Ellen G. White, do you remember your words to me on my "Seventh-day Adventist Church" thread...?
Remember the angry rant please and how you ended it.....keep to your words sir.

It's not about "holding malice". It's about your abusive wild oral rants when you don't like someone speaking truth and having a voice. You type and type and type....insult, accuse, bully, degrade etc...in order to build up an army of supporters. You go on a psychological tirade....it's really beyond sad and frightening cause you are "set-off" by me.
Then the next minute all is supposed to be ok...back to normal. You control how a person's supposed to behave before, during and after a situation. It is your behavior which is so questionable....I don't like your "double-speak".
Praising me one day & stabbing that knife in my back with uncontrollable rage and ferocity the next.

By the way, being a "foreign" guest on an online platform where I introduced my ethnicity, tribe and racial ties to the country (since I had been questioned about it before) in no way should correlate to putting it before my spirituality. People ask questions....and since I have been accused of being a "fake" Igbo, I felt it easier to identify myself on my personal text. I, in no way, was or am trying to insinuate tribal war...in a country I do not live in. However, I have nothing to be ashamed of....there are cultural differences. Thousands of ethnic groups there and I was specifying the one I was born into~ by 50 percent. Just as you told me privately, repeatedly how proud you are to be a Yoruba man. I even tolerated you when you spoke in such a negative manner about my tribe numerous times.
In yesterday's thread that I commented on about tribal segregation in Chrustianity, I meant EVERY. SINGLE. WORD. It is wrong to put tribe over Christ for Christians. Identifying one's ethnic, racial and cultural roots is different from worshiping it over the LORD Jesus. I thought you would get that?
So don't make this about tribal or racial bigotry...on my behalf. I placed the label back on my text too, so thanks for re-visiting it.

Challenge to you: Bring forth the people who say I am "crazy"....here on N.L.
Who ARE THEY?
Let's not just say "many". That's "hear-say/gossip".
Let's bring the proof....receipts....the monikers....the real folks I've actually talked on the phone with (in times past) too.
I will await that patiently and PLEASE do NOT produce FAKE monikers.

You rule by intimidation, threatening tactics and force.
Sir, I always use Ephesians 6:10-18 (KJV) because I recognized this longggg ago.
Yes sir, a "power" IS controlling you....and controlling you extremely well.
My heart breaks cause I am most certain that sometimes, you yourself DO NOT know what you are typing....


All I have been trying to do, since I truly recognized the forces, is to offer you peace through Christ Jesus.
Please surrender to Him sir, before time's up....it's the best decision one could ever make.
You have a great week-end too.

Op, I really derailed and am very sorry.
He wrote a dissertation and so I needed to give my rebuttal. I hope I won't be banned for this. Thanks

truespeak:

The question should rather be are you willing to die for what you stand for?

Which must come from what do you stand for or what is your ground which you live on or be- live on (belief)

My stand and ground comes from the Knowledge that i am a creation having a Creator over me and the Power and Right He Mightily wields over me!

Therefore if any were to ask me to deny my Creator on the pain of death, it is no dilemma nor requires thought, for you ask me to choose between you fellow creation like myself and the Fearfully Almighty Creator!

Bros, no bother yourself, my choice is Clear and made Already!

I meant to say that you are right.
That was how I interpreted his use of the word "religion".
I really and truly have to have some sort of a sincere and genuine relationship to my Lord & experiences (based on pure love) with such a powerful & unshakeable faith in Him and who and what He says He is, that I would be willing to die for Him.

I created a thread (a few months ago) under my alternate about it.....


This has absolutely "0" to do with you sir or your post, so please disregard it. A poster referred to me as a "sister" here on this thread and "good friend" on another thread.
I noticed that I have now gone from being a crazy, deceptive, lying, bi-polar, non-Christian "Adventist" snake, chameleon and demon....to being a "good friend and sister"......
Hmmmm......wonders shall never cease.

Very interesting piece. I liked it.
I wonder why "tribe" is so much more important than being brethren in Christ Jesus? Followers of Christ Jesus.....first & foremost.
I've noticed folks saying, "I'm a such-and-such man first." So then how can one who allegedly claims "born again" (with that tribal-first mind-set) look at another person from another tribe (who is also born-again) as a brethren without prejudice? Something's wrong somewhere....in the heart.
That boggles my mind....
When Christ has truly taken hold of a person, race, ethnicity, tribe should instantly become secondary....
Something has to differentiate Christ' sincere followers from the false.

Deicide:
Why all of a sudden people pretend to be ignorant @E.viana I should mention them? Are you not aware that Christianity was very violent in the past or you just playing ignoramous? The crusade? The inquisition? You don't know about all this stuff?

Perhaps that's the problem.
I kinda wish I WAS an "ignoramus" on this subject...this would've been much easier.
Your reply was exactly what I expected...down to the "t".
Although I want to go further, I'll end it here.....
I do sincerely appreciate you Deicid, conversing with me here.
Praying for you Max....just so you know.

Deicide:
It is against it doesn't necessarily mean it religious followers can't do it those are two different things. and let's not pretend like Christianity didn't have a violent past and force conversion.

Well let me first say that I appreciate your reply. I thought I would hear "crickets"....aka....silence, so sincerely "thank you".

The above bolded is very correct.
Which means that those who chose to convert by force were NOT true followers of Christ...the mixed multitude during the Israelites' exodus out of Egypt were NOT all of the followers of the true and living God of Abraham. There were many skeptics, fearful, wicked folks with wrong motives who came out in that crowd of over 600,000.
Understand that in every religion exists fanatics, extremists, cult-ish groups, "sects" who manage to misinterpret the Bible (whether deliberately or in sincere ignorance) for their own motives. It happens.....and will continue to happen until Christ' return.
I am speaking generally about the foundation of Christianity based on Christ' teachings....

Question: can you give examples of some Christians (in times past) who "violently forced the religion on those who practiced a different religion?" Notice my words.
Just curious about it. Not trying to argue either.

Deicide:
Let's say theyr is a religious crisis in the country and both group are violent against each other.

You where caught and they ask you convert to Islam or die or convert to Christianity or die, would you? How strong is your religiousity?

As for me I don't give a f*ck about religion so any group that say convert I would gladly do it with a smile on my face I refuse to die because of stupid thing like religion.

I thought your question was going in a different direction--of which my answer would be "yes"--.....but now I see otherwise.

At the bolded, not a fair question.
It is against the religion of Christianity to threaten death if unwilling to convert. That is not in the Bible....God's Word.

For your information, you know the saying, "Those that stand for NOTHING, will fall for ANYTHING." Well, not an honorable thing to be a "chameleon"...
Be sincere in your stance (even if in error) and not just be "anything for anybody" in order to "go along" in order to "get along" and preserve "self". There are some things I'm sure you're willing to die for.

Beautifully, beautifully written.....

Although I don't know Pastor Adeboye's full family (the son posted on N.L. that I've seen is Leke), I would like to give my condolences to them.
I have read many devotionals on this site from the pastor and was introduced to him through those.
When I saw the first pic, I actually thought that was Pastor Adeboye.
I had to do a "double-take".
His late son looked so much like him!
Loss is tough...for any human being...and I hope the family truly leans on God for strength and comfort.

KALUUKALUU:
Lol, I see today that I've been freed from prison (ban). I wrote something and I was made to dissappear alongside with it.
Anyway, E.viana, my younger brother is a very devoted sda, we sometimes have this debates. And sometimes I will ask him, "Are you a Believer or are you sda"
I would ask you the same.
From the post which was unfortunately deleted, I'd talked of this senior Catholic personality that I've been acquainted to. Along the way she became a Sabbath-keeper. God has been revealing to her where there are problems in her denomination. She at times attempts to point this to her seniors but it does not end well. You can even be excommunicated.
And do you think that matters even for 1 bit?
What should matter is doing the will of the Father. And having your name Written in the Lambs Book of Life.
Nowadays I try very much to avoid arguments. The things I've said shall maybe make sense in the future.

And so.... "I hereby forgive anyone who has angered or provoked me or sinned against me, physically or financially or by failing to give me due respect, or in any matter relating to me, involuntarily or willingly, inadvertently or deliberately, whether in word or deed: let no one incur punishment because of me.... Shalom.

Sir,
Good morning,
You say your "brother" is an SDA?
Hmmmm...another SDA?
Alrighty then.....
I've met more alleged SDA's on this here thread than I have my entire 4 and 1/2 years on this site!
There are only "2" persons (on this site) who I believe (that I briefly either exchanged a few words with or posted a comment awhile ago) are of the faith. Most SDA's won't come out publicly because of fear being "peculiar", of judgment by all, or misconstrued words about our beliefs.
I am contemplating (as I said earlier) on how exactly I want to finish what I originally (on my very post on this thread) said I would finish here: who SDA's are, the role of the prophetess/in relation to the Bible, and what we believe. Forgive me for being still a little leery....I want to be wise however, I want to finish what I started...and I will.

Anyhow, I wanted "not" to ignore your question....at the bolded.
So here's the answer:
I am, first and foremost, a believer of God the Father, God the Son Jesus Christ, The Holy Spirit, His Word, who happens to be Seventh-day Adventist.

Not understanding the last paragraph..
You didn't offend me.
Why is it written like that? Like a proclamation of some sort?
"....I hereby....etc."

Image123:
i didn't refer to you my lady, you're not behind my back. Apologies.

I must applaud your respectful reply.
Thank you sir.....I really appreciate it.
Apology accepted.

Image123:
i guess it is better to address this here, i don't need any rabid person behind my back. You are yet to reply the posts i made here though.

Disclaimer: If you weren't referring to me, then disregard this post and accept my sincere apology.
Sir, I indirectly, accused BassReeves of bringing the homosexual agenda to my thread....(cause that's what he mostly comments on), but I see now that it was you who did it.

Although I wish he would've redirected his further comments back over here, and not kept talking over there, my apologies to him.

At the bolded, not a kind word to use to describe someone whom you don't know. "Rabid"? a term used to describe animals who have contracted a possibly deadly disease if not treated?
Sir, don't you have females in your life? It would be nice to show some respect and at least use a different word next time.
It's quite dismissive to label someone "crazy" or "sick" or "mental" because he/she doesn't operate in the cultural norm that you feel he/she should.....and I'm purely speaking in "practical" and not "biblical" terms.
Thanks for understanding (no need to reply me) and my apologies to the OP for my slight derailment here.

BassReeves:
Consider that its likely the spambot has put you on a blacklist



Gaslighting narcissist posters, like yourself, believe themselves to be above the rules and above the law, that when called out, react by discrediting the moderators and uninvolved others (e.g. BassReeves), portraying them and putting the blame on them for your personal shortcoming, mistakes etc and being the cause for your ban(s) as its always easy to put the blame on others (e.g. moderators and uninvolved others like BassReeves, PeaceJoyLove etc).

Just remember that, your complaints, your dramas, your victim mentality, your whines, your blaming moderators and all your other unmentioned plaintive bleating excuses cries, have never gotten you, even a single step closer, to your goal(s), dreams, desires etc, not even a wished for reprieve. All it seems to have earned you and/or gotten you, is a consistent blacklist residency.


cc Image.123

Thank you for finally telling the truth.
I am on a permanent residency blacklist in terms of giving any further rebuttal on this thread in order to defend my denomination.
That's all I wanted to be said.

PeaceJoyLove:
I am not interested in this public stunts anymore. If you want to explain anything, you have 30 mins to pull a call across. If it passes 30 mins, dont bother like i told you earlier. And please, do not mention me again. You wanna be a friend, call. 30 mins expire and I dont get it, do not mention me again. This is my last post on this your thread and on all your threads if there is no reconciliation today btw us. 30 mins.

Thank you for leaving me alone.

PeaceJoyLove:
This comment (and comments like this where you cause betray someone publicly to look like a saint or like a fake gentle woman who you are not, and to make the person who sides with you look like a fo.ol) is why I always stay out of your way. The least you can do is be silent, but you must quickly paint yourself like a saint. This is your character. I promise you that this is the last time you will be able to pull this stunt. When you know within yourself that you arent paranoid. The same person did it to me, but I guess he didnt know who I am before. And everyone of them kept quiet. No one stood up for you except me. Your moniker is restored, and you are posting again. Despite we do not agree on this subject of discussion, I defended you. Just imagine your response. I should have left you there to be dealt with perfectly. Later, you will say I hate you. Do you even need to push out something like this? Do not worry, I have removed my hands from your case. Since you have a suggestion from the one who doesn't hate you....fine. I am not angry, but I need you to know that when someone does you good, you always don't appreciate it. The bad and terrible side of the person is what you always write publicly. Yet, you compare yourself with monikers people flow with. Have you ever read useless response from that one moniker with k denying or going against help rendered? You are a terrible human with this your character. You know this isn't the first, second, third, fourth times you did it. You asked me why I am bru.tal with you publicly, and I can list out 5 good times you have done it. Listen, I am not a man who can be manipulated. No woman can. Listen again, I didnt do it for you only, but I know that boy will think twice before doing it to anyone again. Anyone arguing with him knows what to expect. But i am telling you that you will be hit again because I know that boy is smart and I'm not afraid to say it or confront him (to he.ck with his mod status), but I will not even look at your posts again to even know what is going on. I leave you with your destiny and lifestyle and the way you want to live it. I have mine to live too. Imagine this response. Chai! Do not worry, this is my last time. No single appreciation or "thank you". Instead, its all round condemnation.



May God forgive you for this statement also. I will state exactly my concerns with your church.
1. Ellen White was a founding member of SDA
2. A founding member has a higher admistrative rank than a pastor.
3. Her books are the doctrine of the church.
4. Yet, you always say women should not pastor churches.
This is where I am confused. I am debating if it is ok for women to be a pastor or not. The confusion is that how can a woman who founded a church ask other females to be silent in the church when she herself is loud all over the church with her books, her doctrines and her teachings? I do not get it. Her influence is still there even many years after her death. Yet, the same church she founded women are told to shut up. It doesnt add up. Or am I not making sense? Yet you ranted here and there. Must I attend your church? Must I take your church as the holiest church?[/b]

Another person mentioned about the same woman in relation with Martin Luther how she hid the facts. Yet no answer from you. This person said he is even still a member of SDA. But for the fact the person asked the question, you believe I arranged the person to come attack you. Even the first person who first told you he was formerly the member of your church too. So, I arranged an atheist to go against you. But funny, no response to their questions and concerns. Always using "self pitying" strategy to drive home her points. Face the subjects of discussion instead of crying like a baby here and there.

All you can say is that we are attacking your church.

Listen to me, these actions of yours saying I arranged the guys are allegations called false. And you have been doing it for many months, and I always think you will grow over it. Apparently, you will never change.

It is clear to me that after fighting for you to restore your moniker, I will still get the blame if I ever do it again. You are confused because you jump from making friends with too many people. And i have told you the end game. Of course, you can even say it that the guys are my boys. Funny, I have seen that I made a huge error of judgement to think you have a high IQ. I will not allow you push me down and mess me in the public among these kids. You have tried it many times, but this time I know what to do. And if we talk privately, you feel bad no one understands you or defends you. I tried hard to even connect with you during this ordeal, but you chose what you did.

Now here is my decision, I wish to disassociate myself from anytning that has to do with you. You have doubted my friendship. And I have seen all the useless "beloved" thing here. Beloved my foot when it is suspicious and hatred in both of you. I am a straight forward person who calls white what it is, and black what it is. Since you wrote it publicly I am not a friend, I am telling you this night, I cannot be a friend anymore to a person of your character anymore.

I do not have grudges or malice towards you. I was the one who asked you not to call me again, but reconsidered it when I saw these boys playing with your moniker. Listen, it is non of my business again. And I wish to tell you that if you dear call me, you will hear what you do not expect. You haven't heard anything at all. Just try dialing me. You are a chameleon. Do you think I will fall for your prank and be doing and saying the yeye "beloved" nons.ense?

Goodluck to you and your teachings. I will not even near your posts again. I moooooooovvvvee!!!!!

N.B:
1. My posts are usually longer than yours.
2. In this thread, I cant even see any copy and paste (the reason I joined because I avoid all those your copy and paste threads) except where you listed the 24 doctrines and you put a reference there.

So, what is the issue? Even front page materials in NL are all copied word for word... from other sources. Yet, they make front page. So, the nonsense they wrote are trashes.

Continue allowing them to scatter your head with their deception. The boy knows what he does. He is free to rough handle your moniker again. Non of my business anymore. That's all from me.

I don't know what "useless moniker with a "k" you are talking about, so please do not start false accusations yet again.

The highlighted RED is exactly WHAT I have been trying to reply for (2) weeks now.
Yes, I'm able to post now....stuff like what I'm writing right now.
The issue is when I try to respond to your false accusations against someone you know absolutely "0" about...E.G.White.
Even in your list of issues (which I highlighted in RED), you have written several LIES.....several sir. I had the answers.
I believe with my whole heart that I did not converse with any real or former Seventh-day Adventist on this thread. Not a one...
In an attempt to sully, lie on, discredit and attack a church which you fully oppose, monikers were used to present a false image.
Not every member that attends the SDA church stays. Just like with any other denomination, people switch.
People even switch religions.
But I can tell you this: I did NOT converse with any real SDA on this here my thread---and I stand by my comment.

The reason I have not attempted to reply your false accusations for the FOURTH time is that I know a trap is waiting--called a BAN. Whether I use this moniker or my alternate one, a ban is waiting. I'm not gonna fall for it a FOURTH time..at least not at the moment..
I have had a rebuttal for (2) weeks now....but have BEEN STOPPED IN MY TRACKS EACH AND EVERY TIME WHEN IT COMES TO WRITING ABOUT ELLEN G. WHITE AND THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH, HER ROLE IN THE CHURCH AND HOW HER ROLE AS A PROPHET IS TO BE USED IN RELATION TO THE BIBLE.
Yes, I had ALL the answers and tried repeatedly, but was banned immediately after I wrote and posted.
Hmmm....I wonder why?
Why does my church bother you so much?
Why are you so pressed?
Your anger is so concerning to me.
You don't believe in denominations, so kindly walk away.
Sir, you once again have become unhinged and started the character assasination, insults, name-calling etc. because you have been lying on me from Day 1 and I'm holding you accountable.
This is yet another rant of lies.
I don't worry though, because when God knows the WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, FEAR fades away.
I don't need to fear if God be for me....and He is.
Your intense and immense hatred for me will be your un-doing if you don't cease and desist.
You better give that to the Lord sir.
You know the truth.....and always will.

BassReeves:
cc Image123

What you are showing the guy is back from around October 2020-Dec. 2020 or so..dealing with a different thread topic. At that time, I was copying & pasting from a website. I apologized after I was made aware that I was using all of Nairaland's disk space.

As I attempted 2 weeks ago until a few days ago, were my own words for this thread.
I wasn't copying and pasting.
The only thing that I used from another website were my church's "28 Beliefs".
I also posted the link.
THREE attempts after that above post to post more info as I stated I would do (in response to PeaceJoyLove's accusations) in my initial post about my church were erased and I was banned.
That is what my complaint was and is about.
Being able to post my rebuttals without being banned----my words--not too long either. My rebuttals were much shorter than PeaceJoyLove's posts on this thread. He writes dissertations and never gets banned.

BassReeves:
Your post here, gives quite a bit, a reflection of the world inside you. Everything that's bugging you about others can lead to a better understanding of yourself


What evil(s) specifically has BassReeves done you beloved?

You are correct Mr. Reeves about your very first sentence.
See this was the "1000 percent honest & original" words that I told you over on the "Pastor Arrested for Biblical Stance on Homosexuality" thread last week.
How I felt in "that.exact.moment" was genuine. It was a worldly, emotional moment and I lacked self-control.
I apologize for offending you.
I am a Christian who still has defects of character that God must purify me of. I am not in a state of denial about my flaws, weaknesses, and even sin in my life---all things that must be overcome by God's gace.
I said two things: I wanted Kobojunkie off the thread and you too. Honestly, I never wanted you to comment on it.
What I should've done was just remain silent...and not speak (or in this case "write" my thoughts here).

My issue with you is your anger against views different from yours. You resort to childish name-calling and pictorials that are so unnecessary. You only talk about gay issues....gay, gay and more gay.
Look at how the gay issue is here on my thread which was supposed to be about my denomination.
I created the thread originally because PeaceJoyLove started throwing out false accusations. I wanted to write about my denomination for some time, but when he did what he did, I felt the time was right.
Now the gay issue is here.
Mr. Reeves, I wish you would be direct and say--"Miss E.viana, I am a homosexual in a monagamous relationship and am offended and feel you hate & discriminate against me because of it."
Then you and I could go from there.
Your assessment would be wrong, but I'd respect that you were open and honest. I've spoken tirelessy on the topic--yet there are so many other portions of Christianity as well that should be addressed.
You, instead, speak in circles-- yet never directly--while it is very apparent that folks only speak passionately about something when they believe wholeheartedly in it.
You come across as rude and immature at times in your rebuttals because you get frustrated in trying to "convince" Christians about your stance on the topic. Just wanting you to be civil and know that it's ok to "agree to disagree" beloved.

Image123:
Auntie, nobody is doing you. Stop feeling victimized. What you need to do is save your long posts elsewhere in case they get banned, so that you can easily edit them and repost later, instead of starting over again or pulling your hair. Try posting in smaller bits and in other sections of NL and on other people's threads too. The spambots probably marked or suspect your handle so you need to kind of make it trust you again in a way. Just post general and short posts, with time you'll be fine.

Sir,
I know people think I'm paranoid, but I know what I am saying and so do the folks that have done & are doing it. Some persons are "doing me"... and it's retaliation for my views. See I don't get banned posting stuff like this. It's when I attempt to finish writing about my denomination--when the ban occurs. I even tried (3) methods to make sure I wasn't jumping to conclusions falsely.
If somehow, it's honestly & accurately revealed that I was truly wrong, (which I don't believe is the case), I will have no problem rendering a heartfelt apology.

It's ok though....and I thank you sincerely for your suggestions and help. I think I will look into options on how to move forward with the thread.

[quote author=E.viana post=101345124]See that's the thing.
I cannot convince you or anyone else anything about 1.) Christ Jesus and 2.) the Seventh-day Adventist Church
I wrote about my experience and how it has changed my life. I am not ashamed to say so either. I always invite folks to try Christ....get to know Him first.

I told you privately & publicly many times what is important to me.
Honestly, you have done more to discredit me on this site than anyone else here.
You have damaged my character more than anyone here...so forgive me if I have severe "doubts" about you.
I don't call many folks my "friend" easily.
Your "private" actions have been 1000 percent different than your "public" rants. I actually believe the "real you" is the one who has treated me worse than "scum" on this forum (but I digress).
Anyhow, I look at you as a "soul" that has potential to be won for Christ's Kingdom...that's it.
I'm not trying to do anything else.

My thread has been overtaken and trashed because you and your buddies have a hatred against me, my beliefs, my church and ultimately God.
What you guys have done towards me (on this thread & elsewhere) is despicable....and I've had to be in much prayer to ask God to change my heart to sincerely forgive which is why I continue to even engage you guys.
Kobojunkie is here and my flesh wants him to leave the thread....BassReeves is also another one whom....well...Lord just let me say no more.
You, as well, join in to bash, bash and more bash....you insult my church, throw accusations, speak "codedly", question, intimidate, deride and more....and then you say that I'm your friend? Really?

My thread has been derailed..look at you guys and what you're doing here today!
Yet let me try and finish writing what I started, and then it gets erased and me banned. See you guys are playing game...yet it's your souls on the line.[/quote]

KALUUKALUU:
I see you are familiar with antisemitism, what of replacement Theology? Frankly, I only became aware of some of this things in December 2019. Most were a shocker to me, am still learning...
I was talking of Martin Luther 1483-1546. Among his books there's one called "On the Jews and their Lies". Today in Germany there is a church where Luther used to teach, and on its walls is something known as the 'Judensau'. An abomination of a kind. It depicts the God of the Jews. Its in form of pig, With Jews having intercouse with it, and with their babies suckling it. And so for hundreds of years Christians have gone into that church for service with no qualms about that. Something funny is that Jesus whom we worship is King and God of the Jews. Last year there were efforts to pull it down but they did not bear fruit. You can just Google it. Luther was very radical, he called for a total destruction of the Jews, burning of their synagogues.
So it really came as a surprise to me, Why would Ellen G White hide all this in her writings, especially in The Great Controversy?! An indepth study into this matter is one very painful.
The problem of anchoring your faith more on your denomination rather than on Christ is that when the discrepancies start showing, your boat may capsize. You have seen a fella here wishing to go back and apologize to the people he preached to in the past. Whereas he was almost going into Theology school.
Many atheists today were once christians, soo sad.
So e.viana, just be wary.

I understand you.
Losing Christ is the problem.
I find it odd,though, that (2) people "allegedly" associated with my denomination (in some form) now are blasting it once I begun this thread and hadn't even finished it.
I don't really believe either person.
I do not place my church over Jesus, however I do love it..just as several other Christians in this section love theirs and speak about it too.

PeaceJoyLove:
Oh! I had to check first, and the one I saw was Martin Luther in 1507. Please, could you tell me the thread of yours you discussed it? I will check it out.

No one is above correction. Sure, you can anytime. Remember, I used to tell you that I discuss and I drive out points. I do not know it all. Of course, there are so many things I do not know. Kindly know this about me: I am hungry for knowledge daily. I can speak like 10 hours daily with someone who has something upstairs and I will not get tired. And when such corrects me, I listen. To apologize when I am wrong is not a problem for me.


He dear not bug your posts again. I begged him publicly, he refused. I have given him a sound warning. I am not going to drag any issue with him. I just want him to delete your posts again, and hide under spam bot, he will regret it. I assure him. He dear not again suppress you. Check my posts on another thread and my encounter with him....he dear not again. So, feel free to post here.


The thread is not mine. And do not be scared he will bug you again. I want to see the spam bot which will delete your post again. I am waiting for the bot. That bot will land on his head.

So, type what you want to type, and explain it. I will step aside and allow you finish. I will not even open your threads. After you are through, I will make comments. If it takes you 5 weeks, just mention me that you are through. I will make comments.

Listen, that I disagree with you on an issue doesnt mean I will suppress you. Never will I do that. Rather, I want you to convince me. If you can, why not? I will accept your views. But I have the right not to, and to push out my views regardless whose thread it is. You are free to make comments on mine too. And I will definitely respect your privacy.

I am just telling you publicly like I have told you many times privately, I am not a man of denomination. And I am preaching against it because it is a part of religion that has caused us so much harm. But I wish you can convince me here how SDA is different. If you want to continue here...."let's go there". If you choose to do it privately, you know how to reach me.

Hey! Send me the link of your post you talked about that Martin Luther you mentioned above. Again, feel free to start posting. He dare not suppress you again.

Goodluck!

See that's the thing.
I cannot convince you or anyone else anything about 1.) Christ Jesus and 2.) the Seventh-day Adventist Church
I wrote about my experience and how it has changed my life. I am not ashamed to say so either. I always invite folks to try Christ....get to know Him first.

I told you privately & publicly many times what is important to me.
Honestly, you have done more to discredit me on this site than anyone else here.
You have damaged my character more than anyone here...so forgive me if I have severe "doubts" about you.
I don't call many folks my "friend" easily.
Your "private" actions have been 1000 percent different than your "public" rants. I actually believe the "real you" is the one who has treated me worse than "scum" on this forum (but I digress).
Anyhow, I look at you as a "soul" that has potential to be won for Christ's Kingdom...that's it.
I'm not trying to do anything else.

My thread has been overtaken and trashed because you and your buddies have a hatred against me, my beliefs, my church and ultimately God.
What you guys have done towards me (on this thread & elsewhere) is despicable....and I've had to be in much prayer to ask God to change my heart to sincerely forgive which is why I continue to even engage you guys.
Kobojunkie is here and my flesh wants him to leave the thread....BassReeves is also another one whom....well...Lord just let me say no more.
You, as well, join in to bash, bash and more bash....you insult my church, throw accusations, speak "codedly", question, intimidate, deride and more....and then you say that I'm your friend? Really?

My thread has been derailed..look at you guys and what you're doing here today!
Yet let me try and finush writing what I started, and then it gets erased and me banned. See you guys are playing game...yet it's your souls on the line.

Peacejoylove,
Good morning-
Correction: Not Martin Luther King Jr. (The Civil Rights Activist from the 1960's)....which you stated to the "other poster."
I spoke about Martin Luther (The Great Reformer who, basically, was the founder of the Protestant Reformation) on another thread of mine.
I think you honestly made a mistake when you mixed up the two.
I hope you don't find it offensive for me to have corrected you.

Ok, I have tried relentlessly to finish what I began on this thread--which was to clear up some misconceptions about my denomination, but it is clear that I cannot do so.

This is your thread now sir.
It actually has been for over 2 weeks now. I am helpless to do anything else. I have fought as hard as I can. My conscience is clear and I won't argue with or debate you.
Although you took it (the thread) over by force, it's definitely yours now.
Congrats.....
I am thankful, however, that I could at least write the first few posts on this thread.
You take care...

WHO IS ELLEN G. WHITE?
WHAT IS HER RELATIONSHIP TO THE CHURCH?

Listed among the church's biblically-based beliefs are "Spiritual Gifts/Ministry" & "The Gift of Prophecy".
Seventh-day Adventists believe God chose to reveal important prophetic events for the final generation through this woman.
She also has written extensively on Christian living, health, education, relationships, evangelism and many other topics.

Brief History-

Mrs. White, along with her husband James White and Joseph Bates all "co-founded" what has become known as the Seventh-day Adventists(mid 1800's)..after meeting and studying through the scriptures to find out what went wrong earluer. They were remnants of the Millerite movement, founded by William Miller--who is widely known for misinterpreting the 2nd advent of the Lord..later termed "The Great Disappointment" (he got the date "1844" right but the event wrong)....

TO BE CONTINUED

BassReeves:
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What specifically is the sin in the lifestyle of two monogamous devout God-fearing, God-believing loving each other until death do part them same sex couple?

Mr. Reeves,
Pardon my inquiry, but what does your signature mean?
You are determined sir, to "paint" me as "homophobic".....

Folks,

I know that I said that I would write "no further", BUT I wanted to try something --one particular something before I try no more.

I initially created this thread (which I have wanted to do for awhile now----in response to some accusations leveled against the church and me).

All of the things that happened subsequently were a shock to me....and so I attempted to get some clarification and help to rectify the problem. Although I ultimately received no clarification as to correct and avoid any future issue, I decided to end the thread.
Well I've had a moment to think clearly and with something I read this morning, and I want to try one last time. I must try.
It may actually solve something for me.

So without further ado, I would like to write what I wanted to address almost 2 weeks ago today.
This thread is not for one person only...and never was it. When I write, it is and has always been with souls in mind.
It is for those people who are searching.....for truth.

Genesiis:
He has passed God's message. Anyone who fails to adhere to it will answer to it on the last day.

Well said....

I think people forget that following God's Word--His standard--His bueprint (the Bible) on how best the world should function here on earth---is the obligation of one who professes belief in Whom He said He is.
It is not a smorgasboard religion where one gets to choose what he/she believes to be truth or of little importance.

In this world, unfortunately, there are negative consequences (99 percent of the time) for speaking the truth of God's Word. Followers of Christ shouldn't be surprised as we are told this in the Word.

It is not "hate" to speak lovingly what God has told us to warn people of.....the results of living any type of lifestyle that is contrary to God's will and way. Sin covers a wide range of behavior..sins of commission and sins of omission.

Hi to all,
I will write nothing further on this thread.
I think it may be best to end it.
I appreciate any help rendered.

I wanted to write about:

1).Ellen G. White
2).The Sabbath day
3). The Sanctuary (Christ' ministry in the Most Holy Place right now)
4).The distinctive message that truly defines the Seventh-day Adventists doctrine (other than just the Sabbath day): which is the "3 Angels message"

In an earlier thread, I left a link to the church's beliefs...so for anyone interested, prayerfully seek the Holy Spirit for understanding.

I leave this thread encouraging anyone curious about the church to always first and foremost seek the Lord Jesus Christ, pray and surrender your life to Him.
Because in the end, remember that it is all about Him and what He has done for us all.

WHO IS ELLEN G. WHITE AND WHAT WAS HER ROLE TOWARDS THE CHURCH?



In the church's beliefs are "Spiritual Gifts/Ministry" & "The Gift of Prophecy", (both scripturally based).
Ellen G. White is the messenger of God that Seventh-day Adventists believe God chose to reveal important messages regarding prophecy & Christian living. She was one of the founding members, including her husband James White & Joseph Bates. They formed after William Miller, the originator of the Millerite movement, misinterpreted the prophetic date of 1844---thinking that would be the time of Jesus' return to earth. It was not. Something significant happened, but it was not Jesus' return. Seventh-day Adventists formed after studying the scriptures to find out where the Millerites had originally misinterpreted the prophecy.

What many people do not know is that Mrs. White was not the original person chosen to do this important, sobering work of having the gift of prophecy. There were (2) men before her who refused the call of God and who later admitted it. (Would have to read through more work to know that). So God called her and although reluctant at first, she accepted.

Mrs. White (who had a third/fourth grade education) had written over 5000 periodicals and 40 books during her lifetime. She is one of the most widely translated authors in history and covers a very wide range of subjects including prophetic events/prophecy, councils on
health/diet, dress reform, Christian living/ relationships etc.

One statement that was made by someone was that Mrs. White's books are revered more (by me) than the bible. However, his statement is false. Seventh-day Adventists get accused frequently of idolizing Mrs. White more than the bible.
While there may be some in the faith who tend to venture towards fanaticism....the official statement of the church is to hold the bible as the ultimate authority. That is what I do....the bible first. The majority of my posts and interactions have revolved around the bible.

I have also repeatedly used Isaiah 8:20 (KJV) as my reference for anyone who claims or claimed to be a "prophet/prophetess"/messenger of God...including Ellen G. White and I, personally, am convinced that she indeed was.

Out of her 40 books written, I chose to highlight (2) of her books here on N.L.
I posted (3) chapters from one of the most important books that I have ever read, "The Great Controversy"--an historical, present and future book of prophecy for the world-- and (2) chapters from another of the most important books I have ever read, "The Desire of Ages" --an account of the life & Ministry of Jesus Christ--.
Another very beautifully written book and small book is entitled, "Steps To Christ".

What I found interesting, though, is that a rather popular Nairaland member in one of the most popular sections of this site --the Romance section-(of whom I never conversed with nor do I know of his religious affiliation or his views on religion in general) even referenced one of her writings in support of a thread he created regarding relationships! How I even found that thread had to only have been through the Holy Spirit. So even the non-religious (if he is) see the God-given wisdom in her writings.

Mrs. White's books were never to take the position of being greater than the greatest book on earth--the bible. She even stated that numerous times. The messages and prophecy were to always line up with scripture....

An accusation was hurled regarding my personal stance on women NOT being called to "pastoral ministry" and yet Ellen White (a member of the SDA church) being a messenger of God.
She was a prophetess....not a pastor or elder.
As I have stated numerous times on Nairaland via multiple threads, women have been called to ministry. Women are very special in God's eyes and oftentimes are the backbone of the church.

Examples: Deborah, Esther, Miriam, and many more etc.,

Women fulfill countless roles within the church (including prophesying), however, "pastoring" is not one of them.
God has equipped and called men to head the church (pastoring) in that capacity. That has always been my conviction since giving my life to Christ.
I know that many will disagree with me and that's ok.

Moderators, is it permissible for me to continue my thead please? I wasn't finished posting.
Please help me to know how to avoid any future ban?
I would sincerely and surely appreciate it.

Part 7

A brief summary of the church's history and "founders" revolves around William Miller,  (a former Baptist minister) to whom the "Millerite" movement was named after.
Miller is best known for his belief that Christ' imminent return would be in 1844....(later termed the "Great Disappointment).
While Miller had the date right, he had the event wrong. Something did occur in 1844 concerning Christ, but it was not His second coming.
Some followers left the faith and the remaining studied what happened in 1844...and where they went wrong in their belief....hence the birth of Seventh-day Adventists.

The three prominent figures (or founders) to emerge during that time were also members of other denominations---before formally becoming "adventists".
They were James & Ellen G. White (husband/wife) and Joseph Bates.

Part 7

A brief summary of the church's history and "founders" revolves around William Miller,  (a former Baptist minister) to whom the "Millerite" movement was named after.
Miller is best known for his belief that Christ' imminent return would be in 1844....(later termed the "Great Disappointment).
While Miller had the date right, he had the event wrong. Something did occur in 1844 concerning Christ, but it was not His second coming.
Some followers left the faith and the remaining studied what happened in 1844...and where they went wrong in their belief....hence the birth of Seventh-day Adventists.

The three prominent figures (or founders) to emerge during that time were also members of other denominations---before formally becoming "adventists".
They were James & Ellen G. White (husband/wife) and Joseph Bates.

To Be Continued...

Part 6-
Second half of the (28) fundamental beliefs
[i]
15.) Baptism
16). The Lord's Supper (Communion)
17.) Spiritual Gifts & Ministries
18.) The Gift of Prophecy
19.) The Law of God
20.) The Sabbath
21.) Stewardship
22.) Christian Behavior
23.) Marriage & the Family
24.) Christ' Ministry in the Heavely Sanctuary
25.) The Second Coming of
Christ
26.) Death & Ressurection
27.) The Millenium & The End of Sin
28.) The New Earth

adventist.org/beliefs


That's a whole lot. Such topics require a more in-depth study, which I  am still learning, but which comprise the entire bible! All of the listed beliefs are real and right there in the bible.

Part 5

I will list the first (14) beliefs and then the second (14) beliefs in another post...

Each belief is accompanied by an explanation & multiple scripture references. However, for the sake of space and not wanting to overwhelm any reader, I will put a link at the end for anyone who wants to look at our official page to see each scripture reference.

1.) The Holy Scriptures
2.) The Godhead (Commonly called the Trinity)
3.) God the Father
4). God the Son (Jesus Christ)
5.) God the Holy Spirit
6). Creation
7). Nature of Humanity
8. The Great Controversy
9.) The Life, Death & Resurrection of Jesus Christ
10). The Experience of Salvation
11). Growing in Christ
12). The Church
13). The Remnant & Its Mission
14). Unity in the Body of Christ