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Family › Re: Is It Wrong To Raise An African Child The British Or American Way? by Eviana(f): 7:14pm On Mar 01, 2021

SeriouslySense:
I see you had a rough experience, and it might have been very tough. You may be very sensitive.

But we must not give up.

I've had a painfully tough time on this site since I joined 4 years and some months ago.
I may be a little sensitive, but most of the behavior was not what I expected from Nigerian youth, young adults or adults.
It disappointed me because it was so uncouth. It's not normal to spew the things that constantly come out of many members' mouths on a consistent basis.

Yes, I am a survivor of verbal, psychological and emotional abuse here.
After several deactivations & re-activations, I finally decided to stay. There is some good on Nairaland (10 percent or so) and in Nigeria....that I choose to believe....

Family › Re: Is It Wrong To Raise An African Child The British Or American Way? by Eviana(f): 7:03pm On Mar 01, 2021

Sterope:
That was sarcastic. Neither parenting culture is perfect. There is nothing wrong in emulating some aspects of western parenting especially the ones that encourage independence, responsibility, and individualism (that to an extent).

Well said..

Family › Re: Is It Wrong To Raise An African Child The British Or American Way? by Eviana(f): 7:00pm On Mar 01, 2021

Jashub:
Apart from homosexuality and vulgar language, what other thing do they have that is superior to ours?

You can't be serious at the bolded shocked

Honestly, I have been called more "vulgar" names (ashawo, olosho, jezebellic-demon, evening newspaper, fool, mad woman, idiot, stupid, dumb etc.) and seen more homosexual "joints/hook-ups/hang-outs" on this here Nairaland than in my entire life in the U.S.! I've had more scams (identity theft, false accusations, lies etc.) played on me on Nairaland than ever in my life. I have had lovely "alleged curses" called on me for no reason other than the kid disagreed with my viewpoint.
Never seen such cruelty, bullying and filth in my life.
I have been shocked to say the least.

I'm not gonna call my country "superior" to any one else's, however, there are a million more opportunities here than in developing countries (including Nigeria)...and that is simply and plainly a "fact".

So, I'm wondering what the "African way" in raising children revolves around, cause if the majority of Nairaland (youth and young adults) is any indication/evidence of that, I thank the Lord for my "western rearing".

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Christianity Etc › Re: Trust God And Don't Be Afraid. by Eviana(f): 1:34pm On Mar 01, 2021

Not a dedicated reader, but I have read some of your threads before and have been blessed.

I saw Isaiah 41:10 (one of my most favorite verses--outside the Book of Psalms) and that was all I needed.

Beautifully written....

Happy New Month as well...

Politics › Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala's First Day As WTO Director-General (Pictures) by Eviana(f): 1:25pm On Mar 01, 2021

Congratulations Director General!

I usually don't comment on topics like this, but today in this new month of 2021, I will.
The more I read and learn about you, the more I am truly impressed!
May God direct and guide you through wisdom during this your tenure.

Culture › Re: Be Black & Proud Of Being BLACK ... by Eviana(f): 6:59pm On Feb 28, 2021

anonymous6:
@E.viana
Many Nigerian guys also (right here on Nairaland) "add fuel to the fire" by constantly praising the women they deem "exotic" and degrading the beautiful Nigerian females.

This is the main reason why it's a issue, I'm not denying western cultures influence but when black men themselves especially in the western world practice colorism against their women then the response from Black women trying to mimic the image of what black men even are chasing after then this was inevitable. Black american women are a great example of this, colorism has spread like wildfire in their community and glorified that most black american men prefer non-black women.

You are correct.
That was what I was trying to say.
Black American women are practically born into "colorism"....or hatred against their entire God-given physical structures
The effects (of colorism--numbering back to slavery) on Black American society are almost irreversible.

I just hate that I see the same crisis has hit women in Black African countries now....

Christianity Etc › Re: African Hypocrisy And The Gay Law by Eviana(f): 12:51pm On Feb 27, 2021

BassReeves:
Its better to tell the truth, instead of saying OK and giving not only an insincere thank you but a hollow one too, when it isn't at all OK.

It is OK, if you're conversing with a rock, but it is not OK if you're expected to give a reasonable reply.

Having said that, it's OK, to not have it all figured out yet. However never stop learning something new, because life never stops teaching something new, so its very OK to not know yet

Good morning sir,
Although you rudely crossed out my "reply" (which was highly immature and unnecessary up there), I did tell the "truth".
It is a "truth" you neither "like" nor "accept", but it is the "truth".
My "ok" is very sincere....I'm not gonna travel down that road and start a debate with you on this topic.
If you read through my hundreds of posts, I already addressed the topic of homosexuality biblically....complete with scriptures.
I was interested in this topic--a topic that I DID NOT create-- and happened to see the other day.

Again, I do not converse with inanimate objects...cause they are incapable of responding.
I do converse with people, but also know when to exercise restraint...and "end it".

I don't willingly choose to be controversial, however I am not one who will shy away from controversial topics....especially in terms of biblical issues. People's souls are on the line. I must lovingly speak the truth....regardless of who agrees.
I am not cowardly either.
I am not in a popularity contest on Nairaland.
You cannot "bully" me into a different belief system....anymore than you can the other religion there in Nigeria.

Yes, I will always be learning in the school of God even throughout eternity; even as the scriptures state, "Who can know everything about the one, living and true God of the heavens?"

I don't know "what exactly" I'm supposed to know that I don't know yet pertaining to this thread subject?
If you'd like, I have a phone...although I do not know you from Adam personally.
If not and you decline, that's fine too.
But what I won't continue to do is debate over this issue a million times on N.L. because you are triggered.

I do not hate you.
I can only "hate" the things God hates...and that isn't people....although some times I struggle with that.

Happy Sabbath and you have a good day.

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Christianity Etc › Re: A Reminder On Sobriety by Eviana(f): 11:12pm On Feb 26, 2021

Mercy...
Beautifully stated....and definitely accurate.

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Culture › Re: Be Black & Proud Of Being BLACK ... by Eviana(f): 11:03pm On Feb 26, 2021

What is wrong is the influence of Western culture's standard of beauty on African society.
Many African women (Nigerian in this case) are mimicking Caucasian women because the images placed before them idolize and glorify a look that is opposite the vast majority of them: light skin, long & silky hair, thin nose, small bone structure etc...
Those European/Western world images consistently tell them subconsciously that they are unattractive or incapable of possessing any beauty.
The constant barrage of those images sooner or later will have a major impact on a person's self-esteem.
That is what has happener to Black American women.
Many Nigerian guys also (right here on Nairaland) "add fuel to the fire" by constantly praising the women they deem "exotic" and degrading the beautiful Nigerian females.

I know the Nigerian beauty mind-set of 30-40 years ago was not like it is today.

Christianity Etc › Re: African Hypocrisy And The Gay Law by Eviana(f): 12:50pm On Feb 26, 2021

BassReeves,
Ok...thank you.

Christianity Etc › Re: African Hypocrisy And The Gay Law by Eviana(f): 12:53am On Feb 26, 2021

budaatum:
And so have you met he
Whose god fills their heart with bile
And orders they kill their gay enemies.
Though the Word they read says "Love"!

Continue to pray for him. It means fool.

"Thank-you" for the definition.

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Christianity Etc › Re: African Hypocrisy And The Gay Law by Eviana(f): 10:42pm On Feb 25, 2021

MrPresident1: post=99421267

One thing is very sure, you must be very mad, stark raving incurably mad.

May thunder strike that your stupid balance

There is no need to treat you useless toothless hopeless dogs of satan with kid gloves. Nigeria and Nigerians will have no part in your perdition because you are irredeemable doomed.The son of perdition and his dogs promoting homosexuality all over the world are done for!

Thunder fire you for that your opening statement!

Anuofia! Repugnant anathema!

Okay....count to "10" & breathe....
You have an anger problem for sure.

......This is Nigeria.....the thunder fire prayer surfaces again.
Mercy.....
Praying for you Mr. Pres....to surrender to Christ.
You clearly did not read through my post.
Please try and refrain from childish name-calling and insults. I was respectful towards you even when you haven't deserved it.
That isn't representative of Christ.
Understand that God is watching what you have written towards His child.
Remember that sir....

P.S. I don't know what "anuofia" means....thanks.

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Christianity Etc › Re: African Hypocrisy And The Gay Law by Eviana(f): 7:37pm On Feb 25, 2021

MrPresident1:
African hypocrisy? Lol. The prosperity of the wicked will not last forever, it is fleeting, it does not last.

Psalms 37:7
Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.

All the nations of the earth that promote the iniquity of same sex marriage will be judged very soon. The homosexuality in them is not the disease, even though homosexuality is a deadly disease on its own, it is the symptom of something more insidious, far deadlier, infinitely more sinister, it is the mark of death and destruction upon a population to be open and brazen about homosexuality. Any society that wallows in homosexuality and LGBTQ is marked for destruction by the Almighty God, and this is the sign that he has placed upon then in order that everyone may know what is coming on them.

Nigeria, is tied to the apron strings of God via our laws that forbid homosexuality and open same sex liaisons, and we will not allow people that will soon face God's judgment to drag us away from those strings, we will remain bound to it forever.

No amount of English speaking will make us heap coals of fire upon ourselves collectively as a people. We are not deplorable, we are not vile people, and we are not degenerates.

Also to be balanced....

As I am sure you know, Sodom & Gomorrah was not only destroyed because of homosexuality, but also because of pride, idolatry, exorbitance of lifestyle, and a separation from the true God.

Believe it or not, the entire world--not just a few nations-- is being judged (for the same thing as S & G) as we are living in the endtimes...as you scripturally referenced.

I don't know that I agree with the "Nigeria tied to the apron strings of God because of rejection of homosexuality" analogy.
Nigeria may be rejecting homosexuality through legislation---however she is guilty of committing many sins....of which God is not pleased.

"Deplorable" is murdering innocent people because of a different religion.

"Vile" is murdering and then slicing people open and eating organs, chopping off their body parts to sell or for rituals and believing in superstition for the sake of an imaginable "wealth" due to desperation because of poverty and no governmental help.

"Degenerate" is also an adult who willingly and repeatedly corrupts an innocent child's life by sexually abusing or abusing him/her.

All of the above describe Nigeria....
So you see, your nation is being judged too.

Putting something on paper and knowing the actual reality of it are two different things.
Sin is sin....regardless of if a nation criminalizes it (Nigeria) or legalizes it (the U.S.).
God is the ultimate judge and is judging ALL of us for all sin in our own individual lives....and there is no hierarchy of what sin is the greatest. To lie, steal and be prideful is just as horrific as homosexuality or murder.

SIDE NOTE:The sin against the Holy Spirit is the only sin which is unforgivable.

Which is why we ALL need to personally confess our sins, surrender to the Lord and and let Him transform us.

Christianity Etc › Re: African Hypocrisy And The Gay Law by Eviana(f): 2:52pm On Feb 25, 2021

Wow....so much said in this OP...

I'm a little confused on the title, "African Hypocrisy......"
As a "foreigner" looking at this from the outside in, there is a "14" year prison sentence for persons caught in homosexual activities (in Nigeria)or identifying as homosexual, yet the young man nick-named "Bobrisky" openly promotes a gender he was not born into?
If I didn't know he was born male, I may have been completely fooled...that he is a female.
The guy seems extremely like-able and all and may very well be a nice person, however his lifestyle concerns me.
You can only "play a character" for so long until you actually "become" the character.
He wasn't a bad looking dark-skinned guy either. Something happened somewhere in his earlier life I believe.
Perhaps the "hypocrisy" stems from Nigerian governmental lawmakers seeing this....yet doing nothing....just saying.

I don't know that criminalizing homosexuality solves the problem at all.
All it does it put people "out of public view", so that folks can pretend that it doesn't exist.
Yet what happens behind closed "prison doors"?
It's putting a band-aid on a wound, but not delving into the cause of the wound.
Anyhow, a lot of Black African countries have legislation in place and I have no right to condemn how a country chooses or "not chooses" how to legislate....although I may not personally agree with it. I disagree with many of my country's laws as well.

From a biblical viewpoint and correct interpretation of scripture, homosexuality is listed as a sin....amongst many others.
People are talking about it because it is the particular sin that has been promoted in Black African countries...for the past 10 years or so because of the "non-acceptance" of it. So what's happening is it's being normalized....

Biblically, homosexuality goes opposite to what God originally ordained.
If the argument id that a person is "born" homosexual rather than it being a "choice", then one is portraying God as an unjust, partial, lying dictator.
Think about this: why would God allow a person to be born (without a free-will to choose) into a condemed, sinful lifestyle and then ultimately destroy the person?
That makes "0" sense.
So the argument revolves around : choice or not a choice.

Now what I do find plausible is that early circumstances (more often than not) 1000 percent shape a person's views or later life experiences.
The OP mentioned the college friend situation that happened.
What I have understood about tons of Nigerian men is the "boarding school" experience (which is during the teen-age years) where many have engaged in homosexual activities....for whatever reasons.
Also many males have been molested or sexually abused as youngsters--meaning under 12 years of age...(where there was no chance to decide whether to engage in sexual activity....it was forced).
Those first time experiences (of sexuality) at such young ages....kept silent for fear of shame of the culture's stigma....and never dealt with....is what breeds homosexuality.
The problem is not dealt with....no getting to the root of it....so then because of the harsh laws/stigma and no help, Nigerian men (as fully grown adults) want to flee to countries where it is legal and they can live their lifestyle in peace.

The question then revolves around (and please pay close attention to what I will write) how to transform a person who has lived that lifestyle, is struggling with it, knows something is wrong and DESIRES to be free of it.
There is where the Lord Jesus Christ emerges....as introduced by a loving follower of Him.
Within Christianity, we believe that Jesus Christ can transform a "sinner into a saint".
That is with ANY sin.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Necessary For A Preacher To Ask Members Of Audience How His Message Was? by Eviana(f): 8:54pm On Feb 23, 2021

seyi360:
Couldn't have been said better, the main reason for all the validation sought after is the disconnection with the Holy Spirit.

I can understand and patiently let a young minister outgrow that phase of his pulpit ministry.
However, he is not expected to remain there. Nevertheless, there is nothing wrong in seeking an improvement in your pulpit skills.
The preferred way to get that feed back is to record the preachings and listen to it afterwards to make necessary corrections and improvements.
Perhaps, a Bible reference was made wrongly or an irrelevant illustration or story that was shared spontaneously. All of that can be honestly reviewed by the preacher towards a better presentation subsequently.

Oh ok...you were talking moreso about a young pastor....although temptation will be great for him too newly starting out.
I can, however, understand the bolded totally. You are right. That's a good suggestion too...makes sense. Or have a "seasoned" or "godly" elder or two offer some suggestions.
You know what I've learned?
After sermons, while exiting the church & shaking the pastor's hands, or even at a later time, some members will individually let the pastor know "how" they felt about the message....be it "good", "bad", or "ugly"..without even him having to ask!

Thanks for your reply.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Necessary For A Preacher To Ask Members Of Audience How His Message Was? by Eviana(f): 9:05pm On Feb 21, 2021

Interestingly enough, I encountered a situation (in the past) where this happened.
The pastor wanted encouragement, but didn't realize (I guess) that doing so borders on narcissism....pride.....vanity....worldliness...ego...competition...false sense of security etc.
He wanted to know how he was doing practically each week after his sermons.

He even went so far as to wanting to practice his sermon (via me listening) earlier in the week before actual service later that week.
I think he wanted "feed-back" because I have, in times past, told a few preachers that a particular sermon really spoke to my soul--and that God had used him). I am careful to say "that God used him" even when the message cut me in half.
Cause it is none other than Holy Spirit speaking through willing and "called" vessels....
It's not about a person.....rather God speaking through the person.
However there is a thin line between encouragement, contructive and destructive criticism..which can become a temptation for the preacher.
He could become "man-dependent" instead of "God-dependent".

Anyhow, I respectfully declined the sermon "practice" offer before service that week, and told him that he needed to pray to the Holy Spirit & prayerfully study about what exactly to preach about that week.

What God may tell a prayerful, humble and sincere pastor should not affect "how" the congregation receives or receives "not" the message.
The affirmation, honestly, should come from the spouse...if anyone.
When a pastor repeatedly experience ts that from the congregation, he borders on a "performance" rather than a sacred calling. It no longer is about God, and becomes about him performing.
That's why many pastors should not be in the pulpits.
The pastoral ministry call is for very few men....
Remember how the prophets of old had to give some really tough messages to the people....God ordained messages that spoke to folks' souls....
We, as the congregation, don't help the situation when we idolize and place pastors on pedestals...flatter and pet their ego's. We ALL are human...and have battles against sin in our lives.
I am sure that when a surrendered pastor has spent time in prayer before standing before a congregation to give a divinely inspired message--understanding the sacred role of being a mouthpiece for God regardless of how the message is received--he can rest assured that God is pleased...

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Christianity Etc › Re: 5 REASONS GOD MAY REMOVE LOVED ONES FROM YOUR LIFE.... by Eviana(f): 8:25pm On Feb 21, 2021

Beautifully written.....

Christianity Etc › Re: ⭐⭐ These Powerful Quotes will change your life by Eviana(f): 2:50pm On Feb 18, 2021*

iamleumas:
Ft

Was trying to quote the passage by "C.T. Studd" on Jesus, but it didn't show up.
Sorry about that.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Leave That Relationship Now! by Eviana(f): 2:46pm On Feb 18, 2021

to yinaremu:
"Bisola, what is the problem? Why is your face this sad?" Aderonke asked her friend.

"Ronke, I am tired of my relationship, this brother does not have control over his emotions, he can't even define his relationship with other ladies.

"He gives every Tom, Dick and Harry open arms and be opening teeth with all joy!

"And guess what? Irrespective of how I feel, he will still do this, he won't listen to me!" Bisola lamented.

"Let me ask you my friend; do you think this brother is the right person for you? You both seem to me as parallel lines," Ronke chipped in.

"Don't even go there," Abisoye yelled back.

"I love him so well, don't you see how he sings? Do you know how many ladies want him and I'm the luckiest? I'll keep managing, he will change one day," she added.

****
I will first clear this once and for all; if you beg to be in a relationship, you will keep begging to remain in that relationship!

Having said that, the above fiction is not to say some men are not also holding on to relationships that even the blind knows won't work. It is the same with both sexes.

Why are you still in a relationship where you're abused?

Mind you, abuse does not occur only when you're beaten. You can be emotionally abused too. If he or she will not welcome your opinion no matter what, it is a form of abuse. Why are you still holding on to a relationship where your visions are on parallel lines?

If you keep patching it into marriage, it will get worse in marriage and by then, it may be difficult for you to walk away.

Some years ago, one of my spiritual daughters kept having issues in her relationship. I am naturally not someone who will tell you quit your relationship except we're quite close, because experience has taught me that some people are too young to handle truth and they take it out on you.

So, I advised this my daughter to leave the relationship, not because they didn't love each other, but because they didn't seem compatible. There is always a place for compatibility, you cannot run a marriage on parallel lines which do not meet. Today, though, she and her former lover are both happy with their different spouses to be.

There's an adage in my language that says, "if the head will not be straight, we will know from the neck."

Therefore, if the marriage will be shabby, you will know from the courtship days except you decide to deceive yourself.

If your love is blind, marriage will open it. Leave that relationship that is not right now and make yourself right. If you stay or remain on a broken glass, you will keep hurting but if you walk over it, you will hurt but will (soon) heal. Check yourself, relationship will not ease loneliness, if you have not found happiness in yourself, you cannot enjoy happiness from someone else!

Stop enduring and enjoy the life God has for you.

Good morning
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Christianity Etc › Re: Willing To Die For Christ Jesus-Are You? by Eviana(f): 4:26pm On Feb 16, 2021*

Hi to all,
I appreciate & thank those--who may be but "1" or "2"-- patiently waiting for this thread topic.

I am coming...slowly but surely. I want to be sure that it is divinely inspired...and not just my own "thoughts".
Got a little distracted...but will finish the course.
I chose to post this topic under this, my alternate, because I do not want to disrupt my last thread topic on "Revelation NOW", by creating a new thread above it.
It is that important.
But now, so is this particular thread.

Coming soon enough...I haven't forgotten this.

Travel › Re: DIY Guide To Australian Permanent Resident Visa - Part 2 by Eviana(f): 2:44pm On Feb 12, 2021

PeaceLoveJoy:
Will send you a PM too. Have some private questions.

Glad to see you making moves as you told me.
Your top (3)
U.S.
Canada
Australia

However, someone with your intellect should be rebuilding Nigeria. Why try to leave? Someone has to stay behind.

Health › Re: COVID-19 Update For February 10 2021 In Nigeria by Eviana(f): 10:50pm On Feb 11, 2021

PeaceLoveJoy:
Many still do not understand this virus is real. They even do more damages because they are not sensitive when talking with the families and friends of the deceased. Calling the person mourning daily helps, even the person annoys one. Call again tomorrow. Show you are human and not an animal. The person may nag, irritate you....bear it. Why? The person is trying to rest on your shoulder. Let him or her. Just keep talking or stay quiet with the person. If you are a good friend or the two of you are good in arguing, just allow the person always win for those periods. Allow it. Even the person tells you to not call again still do it. Call daily. Visit daily. Pet him/her daily. When you see that the fellow cheers up and discusses other subjects when you are there, that is to tell you that you are sent to make the person heal faster. Stay and keep comforting the person no matter how annoying he or she can be at times. This is the meaning of comforting one who is in pain. Don't say you will reduce your calls. Not good. Better you dont call at all than make the person happy and drop him or her. Ev, Call. Do it. It helps. And God will reward you. The calls help. Daily doses needed. They help.

That must be an issue in Nigeria....wonder why people don't "believe" ? Perhaps there are more pressing issues that the people have to deal with such as starvation, theft, pre-existing illnesses etc.
I'm guessing?

Sunday, February 7, 2021 (as digitally documented on my phone)
Call Time: 8:53 A.M.
Call Duration: 1 hour 2 minutes 5 seconds
*The day that I actually saw your post in the religion section about needing to mourn. Also there was a comment of condolence written by me. When I called, you did not want to discuss it at all.

Tuesday, February 9, 2021( as digitally recorded by my phone)
Call Time: 11:09 A.M.
Call Duration: 1 hour 8 minutes 1 second
*Not one time was your loss mentioned during the call. Nothing concerning that.

Calls made by me-to-you (both an hour minimum) through my BOSS Revolution calling card....

You know why no more calls came after Tuesday's conversation.
Please tell the truth and shame the devil.
Sir, I see that (through another angry rant) you broke an agreement and came to discuss on Nairaland yet again.

Trust is such a vital component of any relationship...be it friendship or intimate.
Once it's continually broken with no attempt to repair it, then one has to conclude that it has become irreparable.
It is clear that anything I "say" or "don't say" "do" or "don't do enough of", privately is fodder for Nairaland.
It's really sad that it has once again come to this.
However, I will not explain here what you only wanted to discuss...despite my first clearly & sincerely asking about your loss and being forthright about why I called.

I will, however, honor my end of the agreement, stay silent, and pray for your transformation in Christ.
I am not a child nor will I behave like one.
I cannot keep company with an angry, gossipy man...
Will continue keeping you & your family in my prayers...during this difficult time and in the future.
Farewell...

Christianity Etc › Re: God Knows You by Eviana(f): 3:09pm On Feb 11, 2021*

Beautifully written & definitely food for self-introspection.

Crime › Re: US Seeks To Seize $2 Million From Nigerian Man Arrested For Romance Scam by Eviana(f): 3:03pm On Feb 11, 2021*

N waNimo1:
http://saharareporters.com/2021/02/09/us-seeks-seize-2million-nigerian-man-arrested-romance-scam

Noted and appreciated...meaning reminders of threads like these.

Christianity Etc › Re: Any One With A Good Choir Songs... by Eviana(f): 12:48pm On Feb 09, 2021

Olarewaju89:
Wow! I love their songs. South Africa and Kenya are very good when it comes to choirs ministration but they are still far behind us (Nigeria) in terms of gospel songs

This may really sound partial, but when I specifically hear the voices of any African choir singing, I picture in my mind the angels of God right there accompanying them. I believe in my soul that Heaven is pleased. There is something about the range, tone, harmony from both male and female etc. which just almost sounds supernatural. It gives me chills...especially if sung "acapella".

Well, actually I was looking for Nigerian choirs first and stumbled upon the young university students (UofN) in Kenya....University of Nairobi.
I've seen some names of popular Nigerian gospel singers (Sinach, Mercy Chinwo etc.) and will check them out...but my heart is really with the choirs.

Will recommend more as I find them.

Christianity Etc › Re: When A Man Repent N God Forgives Him Is There Need For Restitution by Eviana(f): 12:37pm On Feb 09, 2021

chelsea04:
Evia na.
If truely u are born again in the holy ghost, Jesus in you will chastise u for wanting to follow the standard of the world, yes the world has a standard, attaching all those artificial product is not beauty, if anyman is attracted to u becos of that is marriage on the foundation of lust, imagine me passing by a church i;e house of God, i happen to see an usher with all those properties and even a tight trouser standing at the door post, i wept within me becos worldliness have entered the church that is why the introduce some programs of the world into the church like lovers day, cultural day, associations etc. Have u not read about the woman of sin which is the devil how she look like, read Rev17, ch 18.

The bolded lets me know that you have not truly read and absorbed my reply. You have gotten me and my stance completely wrong.

The "woman" in Revelation (the book of prophecy for the endtimes) is referring to "church". If you go back to Revelation 17: 1 (KJV), and read the entire chapter "line upon line, precept upon precept" etc...you will gain a proper understanding. I understand that adornments in the context is associated with harlotry. But try and read further as opposed to picking one verse to label women as sexual predators of Christian men.
Actually, it would be more helpful to start from Chapter 1 in Revelation to understand the theme of this extremely important last book of the Bible.

I will stop at this juncture cause this thread was initially about "restitution or not for a former murderer- turned born- again". I answered that, so thanks for the discussion sir. It was appreciated.

Christianity Etc › Re: Any One With A Good Choir Songs... by Eviana(f): 11:12pm On Feb 08, 2021

Olarewaju89:
Thanks sister. I will go and download them.

You are welcome...there's a Kenyan university choir that sounds like angels singing, "Master, The Tempest Is Raging".

It's on YouTube.

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Christianity Etc › Re: When A Man Repent N God Forgives Him Is There Need For Restitution by Eviana(f): 11:10pm On Feb 08, 2021

chelsea04:
Ev iana.
Pls, are u in support of painting and fixing of eye lashes and etc, can u backup or explain why u said it is not sin.

I appreciate your question...which is a quite controversial one.

I think it's first important to define what constitutes "sin".

Proverbs 6:16-19 (KJV)

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Revelation 2:8 (KJV)

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

I think we tend to forget that God is mostly interested in our "characters", what's going on in our hearts/motives moreso than make-up or artificial enhancements.
Now let me be clear: God is a God of mercy and justice, however is the embodiment of holiness...and even the high priests could receive death on the day of atonement if all sins were not confessed...before he could represent the people, then how much more should we reverence God's holiness.
Sin is horrific and required a sacrificial death to conquer it.

When the Israelites' left Egypt (and took on their customs after 400 years of slavery), it wasn't an overnight transition to be re-educated to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel.
Egyptian culture was rich with pomp, flare, and any thing associated with wealth....

Exodus 33:3-6 (KJV)

3 Unto a land flowing with milk and honey: for I will not go up in the midst of thee; for thou art a stiffnecked people: lest I consume thee in the way.

4 And when the people heard these evil tidings, they mourned: and no man did put on him his ornaments.

5 For the Lord had said unto Moses, Say unto the children of Israel, Ye are a stiffnecked people: I will come up into the midst of thee in a moment, and consume thee: therefore now put off thy ornaments from thee, that I may know what to do unto thee.

6 And the children of Israel stripped themselves of their ornaments by the mount Horeb.

Genesis 35:2-4 (KJV)

2 Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, Put away the strange gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your garments:

3 And let us arise, and go up to Bethel; and I will make there an altar unto God, who answered me in the day of my distress, and was with me in the way which I went.

4 And they gave unto Jacob all the strange gods which were in their hand, and all their earrings which were in their ears; and Jacob hid them under the oak which was by Shechem.

Joshua 24:23 (KJV)

23 Now therefore put away, said he, the strange gods which are among you, and incline your heart unto the Lord God of Israel.

It is that "worldly" mindset that I believe 1Timothy is referring to....
Egypt, of times old, would be considered the world and the Israelites' exodus out of Egypt would mean that as the children of God would now be serving Him, they would re-learn what God required.

1 Timothy 2:9-10 (KJV)

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

There is a change that occurs when one becomes "born-again". It will transform from the inside to the outside...
How a person used to dress will change..but that may take time.

I do not find scripture that says false adornments are a sin per se, however there is a way that children of God should present themselves....there should be a marked difference. I do think that God also looks on the heart and will transform daily a child of His who is sincerely seeking Him for strength to strive toward pleasing Him.
Sanctification is a daily process.

By the way, I used to wear very light make-up, small earrings and pants (although they were loose-fitting). I was never flashy, however I have stopped all of that for some years now...but it has been a process. It is the Holy Spirit which has to impress a heart to change. I believe in modesty...however I believe in character and the ability to allow God to cleanse me completely from sin that separates me from a fulfilled relationship with Him.

Sorry so long...

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Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Share Our Favourite Gospel Songs by Eviana(f): 11:09pm On Feb 07, 2021

Bodydiialect57:
Bill Gaither and the vocal band!

Have you listened to the Fourth man in the Fire?

It's so interesting that as a child growing up, I used to remember seeing his specials on t.v. and quickly press the remote to get past that channel...felt it would be a punishment to have to watch them sing gospel songs.
But look at what I missed!

The few songs I've heard have been such a blessing & encouragement.
Answer to your question though...is no I haven't.
I will definitely check it out though...and others. Thanks for that.

P.S. One of the older members, Mark Lowery, is the writer of "Mary Did You Know?" one of the most beautiful Christmas songs on the planet.
Just found that out....

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Christianity Etc › Re: When A Man Repent N God Forgives Him Is There Need For Restitution by Eviana(f): 3:15pm On Feb 07, 2021

shadeyinka2:
Now that I am born again, How do I restitute for putting on trousers and painting my lips and fingernails?

This wasn't addressed to me, but I think this comment is bordering on mockery here.
While God's people should be a peculiar people, dressed in a markedly different manner from the world as a result of being cleansed from inwardly to outwardly, the wearing of "pants", "lipstick" or "false fingernails" is not a sin.
Those that teach that those things mentioned above constitute sin, "may" mean well or be very sincere in trying to stress holiness, however the "10" commandments....reveal God's laws...to God first & our fellow man secondly.

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Christianity Etc › Re: When A Man Repent N God Forgives Him Is There Need For Restitution by Eviana(f): 3:02pm On Feb 07, 2021

PeaceLoveJoy:
I agree with you. He is right on point. I share with him what he said. At times, we may not be able to say things well, but when we sit down and consider other factors, we see things clearly. Things are not the way they seem to be at first. There is nothing bad in saying "I made a mistake", "I did not consider this before I made my initial comment", "Ms X or Mr Y gave an answer better than my first answer". This I have noticed in your posts...you are sincere. But some people will continue arguing despite their error is clear. Such people, I always avoid. Keep it up.

Please, read my last message you got angry with. Relax, and look deeply into the points. You will surely see another view to the issues I raised. The tone may be harsh (I cannot remove it now), but look at the issues well.

Well, I have just forced myself to post this. I had received a terrible news which knocked me off very early this morning. I just need to mourn in order to heal. Taking a break and will not be posting for a while. Very sad day for me. A serious blow I got early this morning.

Take care!

Not angry, moreso shocked, frustrated and saddened.
It's ok though....it really is.
Will reread it.
Oh, I'm not telling you to change what you wrote....that's how you felt and feel.
I just wanted an apology for the manner in which want felt you attacked me....which I've accepted that you do not want to give.

I am also sorry for your loss...
Prayers sent up for you.
One never forgets, but the pain of the loss lessens slowly but surely as time continues.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Share Our Favourite Gospel Songs by Eviana(f): 1:37am On Feb 07, 2021

My love has switched to predominately hymns now....which are too innumerable to mention.
I love acapella...which requires no music, just the harmonious blending of voices..that probably even have angels joining in.

Although he's been around a long time (decades) in the U.S., I recently discovered a guy named Bill Gaither and the vocal band. He is the founder of Southern Gospel music and (although he's white and I'm black), I find many of his songs (lots which he himself wrote) to be anointed ..if I may use a word to describe them.
Christianity should know no race, color, culture or creed. We should be in one accord...
He has a song called, "I Believe In A Hill Called Mt. Calvary", which touches my soul and makes me feel the presence of the Lord when I listen to it.
I have it on re-play daily.
The words....it's the words.
It's on YouTube for anyone interested.

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