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Is this physical death or eternal death?

Kobojunkie:
The Law of sin and death referenced there is the Old Law of Moses which had death as the penalty for sin -- Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20.. To be made free from the Law of Moses as an Israelite--- one born of the blood of Jacob --- is to be adopted in to a different Law which has power to release one from the yoke of the Old Law of Moses. The different Law that has that power is Jesus Christ, God's New Law in the Kingdom of God. Those who adopt Jesus Christ --- become born-again(born of water and born of Spirit) are released from the Old Law of Moses, into a new and lighter yoke and easier burden.

Why the need to show you As-Samari from the Torah?
Did you check the root words of
السامرى and سمير separately on your AI assistant? Or it cannot handle arabic?

TenQ:
So, which one of these says As-Samari is the same as Samir

As-Samari mean : the Samaritan or a citizen of Samaria

Can you show us from the Torah that the As-Samari mislead the children of Israel?



Note that:
Samir and As-Samari mean different things.

What do you understand from the reading?
Nothing?

مُسۡتَكۡبِرِينَ بِهِۦ سَٰمِرًا تَهۡجُرُونَ

TenQ:
Islam with LIES is 5&6!

Therefore, there's no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. Romans 8:1-2.

Highlighted from what you wrote implies your immunity from the law of sin and death?

Elucidate in simple English please.

FxMasterz:
Everyone is liable and responsible for their actions. People would be rewarded for allowing God to work through them, and be condemned for disallowing God from working through them.

Go and read again all that I posted because you're saying very contrary things.

The Quran
Commentaries for 20.85
20.85 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(He said) O Moses! (Lo! We have tried thy folk) with the worship of the calf (in thine absence) after you set off for the mountain, (and al-Samiri hath misled them) al-Samiri [/b]commanded them to do so.
20.85 [b]Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
But those he supposed [to be following him] had remained behind, for He, exalted be He, said, ‘Indeed We tried your people after you, that is, after your departure from them, and the Samaritan led them astray’, so they took to worshipping the [golden] calf.
20.83-89 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir
Musa goes to the Appointment with Allah and the Children of Israel succumb to worship the Calf
Allah relates what happened when Musa traveled with the Children of Israel after Fir`awn's destruction.
(And they came upon a people devoted to some of idols. They said: "O Musa! Make for us god as they have gods.'' He said: "Verily, you are a people who know not. Verily, these people will be destroyed for that which they are engaged in. And all that they are doing is in vain.'')
7:138-139 Then, Allah made a covenant with Musa of thirty nights after which He added to them ten more nights. Thus, they were forty nights in all. The covenant was that he was to fast these number of days, during both the day and night. Thus, Musa made haste to go to the Mountain and he left his brother, Harun, in charge over the Children of Israel. This is why Allah says,
("And what made you hasten from your people, O Musa'' He said: "They are close on my footsteps.'') These means that they have arrived and are settled near the Mountain.
(and I hastened to You, O my Lord, that You might be pleased.) meaning, "So You will be more pleased with me.''
((Allah) said: "Verily, We have tried your people in your absence, and As-Samiri has led them astray.'') Allah informs His Prophet, Musa, of what happened to the Children of Israel after he left them, and their deification of the calf that As-Samiri had made for them. During this time period, Allah wrote for Musa the Tablets, which contained the Tawrah. Allah said,
(And We wrote for him on the Tablets the lesson to be drawn from all things and the explanation for all things (and said): "Hold unto these with firmness, and enjoin your people to take the better therein. I shall show you the home of evildoers.'') 7:145 This means, "I will show you the final outcome of what will happen to those who abandon My obedience and oppose My command.'' Concerning Allah's statement,


(Then Musa returned to his people in a state of anger and sorrow Asif.) This means that after Allah informed him of what they were doing, he became extremely angry and upset with them. He was very worried for them. During this time he received the Tawrah, which contained their Shari`ah (Law), this was a great honor for them. For they were a people who used to worship other than Allah. Every person with sound reason and good sense could see that what they were doing was false and foolish. This is why Allah said that he (Musa) returned to them in a state of anger and sorrow. The word for sorrow used here is Asif, which is used to emphasize to the severity of his anger. Mujahid said, "In a state of anger and sorrow means worried.'' Qatadah and As-Suddi said, "Asif here means in a state of sadness because of what his people had done after him
(He (Musa) said: "O my people! Did not your Lord promise you a fair promise...'') This means, "Did He not promise you in that which I have spoken to you, every good in this life and in the Hereafter, and the good end in the final outcome of things You have already witnessed how He helped you defeat your enemy (Fir`awn) and He made you victorious over him and He blessed you with other bounties as well through His help.''
(Did then the promise seem to you long in coming) meaning, `in waiting for what Allah had promised you and forgetting His previous favors and the covenant that He made with you before.'

(Or did you desire that wrath should descend from your Lord on you, ) The word `Or' here means `Nay, but.' It is used here to separate between a previous item and a coming item. It is as if it is saying, "Nay, but you want to make permissible the anger of your Lord upon you by what you have done. Therefore, you have broken your promise to me.'' The Children of Israel said in reply to Musa's blame and rebuke,

(We broke not our promise to you of our own will,) Meaning by our power and our choice. Then, they began making lame excuses and they told him how they got rid of that which they were carrying of Coptic jewelry that they had borrowed from them (the Egyptian Copts) when they left Egypt. Therefore they cast it, meaning that they threw it away. Thus, it became a calf that made a moaning sound that would gradually rise in pitch. This calf was an ordeal, a hindrance and test. This is why Allah said,
("...that was what As-Samiri suggested.'' Then he took out (of the fire) for them (a statue of) a calf which was mooing.) Muhammad bin Ishaq reported that Ibn `Abbas said,
(This is your god, and the god of Musa.) "So they became religiously devoted to it (the calf) and they loved it with a love that they had never loved anything else with before. '' Allah then says,
(but he had forgotten.) This means that he abandoned what he was following of the religion of Islam. This is referring to As-Samiri. Allah says in refuting them and rebuking them, and also explaining to them their folly and foolishness in that which they had done,
(Did they not see that it could not return them a word (for answer), and that it had no power either to harm them or to do them good) This is about the calf. `Do they not see that it does not respond to them when they ask it and when they speak to it'

(and that it had no power either to harm them or to do them good) Meaning in their worldly affairs and matters of the Hereafter. Ibn `Abbas said, "Nay, by Allah, the moaning sound of the calf was nothing but wind that would enter into its behind and come out of its mouth, thus causing it to make a sound.'' In a Hadith of Al-Fitun recorded from Al-Hasan Al-Basri, it is mentioned that this calf's name was Bahmut. In reference to the excuse of these ignorant people, they claimed that they were merely ridding themselves of the jewelry of the Copts. In the process of doing so, they cast the jewelry (into the pit of fire) and ended up worshipping the calf. Thus, they were seeking to rid themselves of something detestable, but wound up doing something even worse. This is similar to an authentic narration reported from `Abdullah bin `Umar. A man from `Iraq asked him about the ruling of mosquitoes' blood if it get on one's garment. The man wanted to know if it is permissible to pray in such a garment or not. Ibn `Umar replied by saying, "Look at the people of `Iraq. They killed the grandson of the Messenger of Allah, Al-Husayn, and yet they're asking about the blood of the mosquito.''
20.84-85 Maududi - Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an
It is obvious from the last letter `ya' that Samiri was not the proper name of the person, for this Arabic letter is always added to show a person's connection with his race or clan or place. Moreover, the prefix `al' (definite article 'the') in the original Arabic text clearly denotes that the Samiri was a particular man from among many other persons of the same race or clan or place, who had propagated (he worship of the golden calf. In fact, this does not require any further explanation than this, but this has been necessitated because many[b] Christian missionaries and the Western Orientalists have tried to criticise the Holy Prophet and the Qur'an on this account. They say, (God forbid,) "This is a proof of the grievous ignorance of history on the part of Muhammad, the author of the Qur'an, and is one of the anachronisms of the Qur'an." They base this absurd criticism on the assumption that this Samiri was the inhabitant of Samaria, the capital of the ancient kingdom of Israel, which was built in 925 B.C. long after this happening; then centuries after this, a generation of the Samaritans came into existence as a result of inter-marriage between the Israelites and the non-Israelites. As the Samaritans worshiped the golden calf, the critics accuse the Holy Prophet of inventing this story on the basis of mere hearsay. They say that the Holy Prophet might have heard something like this from the neighboring Jews and inserted it in the Qur'an. This is not all. They also criticize that Haman who was a courtier of Cyrus has been mentioned in the Qur'an as a minister of Pharaoh.[/b]


It is a pity that these so-called scholars seem to think that in the ancient times there used to be only one person bearing one name in a clan or a place, and there was absolutely no possibility of another person or persons having the same name. They do not know, or pretend they do not know, that during the time of Prophet Abraham, a famous people known as the Sumerians inhabited 'Iraq and the neighbouring regions, and it is just possible that during the time of Prophet Moses there were some people known as the Samiris who might have migrated to Egypt from 'Iraq.

Besides this, according to the Bible (1 Kings, 16: 24), Samaria itself was built on a hill which was bought from Shemer and named Samaria after him. This is a clear proof that there were people named Shemer (or Sumer) even before Samaria came into existence and it is also just possible that some clans might have been called "Samiri"

TenQ:
Stop being a time waster:
So, non of your scholars agree with you!?

Ibn Kathir
Al-Qurtubi
Al-Jalalayn
Al-Tabari etc

You have now become a scholar!?


Show me ANY if your scholars that agree with you?

Does س م ر occur in السامرى and سمير?
If yes I rest my case!

TenQ:
Let me give you three sets of words that share the same root and thus meaning exactly the same.

1. Principal vs. Principle
You can see that both share the same root Princip
By Islamic reasoning, both Principal and Principle mean exactly the same thing.

2. Capital vs. Capitol
You can see that both share the same root Capit
By Islamic reasoning, both Capital and Capitol mean exactly the same thing.

3. Desert vs. Dessert
You can see that both share the same root sert
By Islamic reasoning, both Desert and Dessert mean exactly the same thing.



Can you see how stupid your logic sounds!?

You deemed them appropriate

TenQ:
Let me help you out since fear will not allow you to respond truthfully to any of my questions.

a. Translate: محمد هو القاضي المتكبر لشعبه!
Answer: Muhammad is the arrogant judge of his people!"



b. Translate : "الله هو القاضي المتكبر لشعبه!"
Answer: Allah is the arrogant judge of his people!"



So simple:
Are these translations correct?

Myopic reasoning

@RoyalDiadems
@advocatejare
@JudgeWilson
@MightySparrow
@SIRTee15

As expected from one without originality and independent reasoning

TenQ:
So, non of your scholars agree with you!?

SMH!

Again

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5

4

3

Such reasoning is for retards that limit themselves based on another.

TenQ:
So you are better in Arabic than your translators of the Qur'an!?
LOL!

Okay!
Can you then find me a single Tafsir that agree with you?

Abi they are imperfect too?

it ain't difficult so you need no help

TenQ:
What is so difficult in this?

Translate the following two Arabic sentences into English

a. Translate: محمد هو القاضي المتكبر لشعبه!
b. Translate : "الله هو القاضي المتكبر لشعبه!"


The difference is just in one word sir!

Is it you or me that is scared?
Have you generated the root of samir and assamari typed in arabic from your AI?

TenQ:
Just tell me you are scared of the truth, my questions are direct and simple

1. Can you find a single English translator or your Tafsir that agree with you that the As-Samari mean Entertainer?
2. By the way:
Is Samir the same as As-Samari?

It is the arabic word not english translation of the word whose roots are being reviewed.

Is that impossible or hard for you to understand?

TenQ:
Let me give you three sets of words that share the same root and thus meaning exactly the same.

1. Principal vs. Principle
You can see that both share the same root Princip
By Islamic reasoning, both Principal and Principle mean exactly the same thing.

2. Capital vs. Capitol
You can see that both share the same root Capit
By Islamic reasoning, both Capital and Capitol mean exactly the same thing.

3. Desert vs. Dessert
You can see that both share the same root sert
By Islamic reasoning, both Desert and Dessert mean exactly the same thing.



Can you see how stupid your logic sounds!?

Look through the thread or ask the web, you will get answers.

RoyalDiadems:
Where are these ignorant and pompous Islamists?

When are you going to answer these questions? Is it only the sword that you can use to defend your god?

Answer yourself as you most likely have and place your amswers beside the arabic perhaps you may fond critics to advice you if you're wrong.

TenQ:
I asked you basic questions which you are dodging to answer.

Again:

1. You may therefore wish to explain how Allah gave the name Yahaya (Meaning: Yahweh is Gracious) to the Son of Zakariyya but forgot that Yahweh is his own name?

2. Of the 99 Arabic names of Allah, which one of them is translated as Yahweh?

3. Can you please resolve the Confusion of Allah, because Islamic prophets have names of Yahweh and not Allah?
Elijah (English) Eliyahu (Hebrew) Ilyās (Arabic)
Yahweh is my God (Meaning)

Zachariah (English) ZakarYah (Hebrew) Zakariyau (Arabic)
Yahweh Remembers (Meaning)

Jesus (English) Yehoshua/Yeshua (Hebrew) Isah (Arabic)
Salvation of Yahweh (Meaning)

John (English) Yahya/Yohanan (Hebrew) Yahyah (Arabic)
Yahweh is Gracious (Meaning)




To catch a Muslim in his lies is so simple : ask him a simple question.


4 If what you've written is true, I dare you to translate the following two Arabic sentences into English

a. Translate: محمد هو القاضي المتكبر لشعبه!
b. Translate : "الله هو القاضي المتكبر لشعبه!"


Muslims and lies!


Why are you afraid of translating the two sentences : there is only one word difference between the two!

Prove that I haven't caught your lie of the words not having the same root.

Are translators immune from imperfections?

TenQ:
Please respond to my questions


Muslims and lies!?

Unfortunately for you, even translators of your Qur'an called the As-Samari as the Samaritan!

1. Can you find a single English translator or your Tafsir that agree with you that the As-Samari mean Entertainer?
2. By the way:
Is Samir the same as As-Samari



You must have been practicing lies with Shaitaan!

Now you plead after daring? It doesn't work that way.
Your desperate need to be right betrays your arrogance.

I have shared an image stating the root letters of the words or that too is a lie?

TenQ:
Please respond to my questions


Muslims and lies!?

Unfortunately for you, even translators of your Qur'an called the As-Samari as the Samaritan!

1. Can you find a single English translator or your Tafsir that agree with you that the As-Samari mean Entertainer?
2. By the way:
Is Samir the same as As-Samari



You must have been practicing lies with Shaitaan!

Your eyes are unable to see and you cannot see س م ر in both words?

Ask your AI for root words of each name independently then share your results if you are half as honest as you claim.

TenQ:
Muslims and lies!?

Unfortunately for you, even translators of your Qur'an called the As-Samari as the Samaritan!

1. Can you find a single English translator or your Tafsir that agree with you that the As-Samari mean Entertainer?
2. By the way:
Is Samir the same as As-Samari

Please check the attachment!
It refutes you totally!


You must have been practicing lies with Shaitaan!

I am not to be dared please. What keeps you from translating it yourself? Your arabic is not yet good enough or you don't trust your translators?
What arabic letter is the exclamation mark?
Otondo!

You are characteristically extremely rude and say in finality that I care less about your limited and misguided reasoning.
Practice your faith and desist from the phoney love you profess in exhibiting your deluded mischief.
Use AI or play chess with yourself on these issues.
Your bother is highly repugnant.

TenQ:
1. You may therefore wish to explain how Allah gave the name Yahaya (Meaning: Yahweh is Gracious) to the Son of Zakariyya but forgot that Yahweh is his own name?
2. Of the 99 Arabic names of Allah, which one of them is translated as Yahweh?
3. Can you please resolve the Confusion of Allah, because Islamic prophets have names of Yahweh and not Allah?
Elijah (English) Eliyahu (Hebrew) Ilyās (Arabic)
Yahweh is my God (Meaning)

Zachariah (English) ZakarYah (Hebrew) Zakariyau (Arabic)
Yahweh Remembers (Meaning)

Jesus (English) Yehoshua/Yeshua (Hebrew) Isah (Arabic)
Salvation of Yahweh (Meaning)

John (English) Yahya/Yohanan (Hebrew) Yahyah (Arabic)
Yahweh is Gracious (Meaning)




To catch a Muslim in his lies is so simple : ask him a simple question.


If what you've written is true, I dare you to translate the following two Arabic sentences into English

1. Translate: محمد هو القاضي المتكبر لشعبه[b]![/b]
2. Translate : "الله هو القاضي المتكبر لشعبه[b]!"[/b]


Muslims and lies!

I am not to be dared please. What keeps you from translating it yourself? Your arabic is not yet good enough or you don't trust your translators?

You are characteristically extremely rude and say in finality that I care less about your limited and misguided reasoning.
Practice your faith and desist from the phoney love you profess in exhibiting your deluded mischief.
Use AI or play chess with yourself on these issues.
Your bother is highly repugnant.

TenQ:
1. You may therefore wish to explain how Allah gave the name Yahaya (Meaning: Yahweh is Gracious) to the Son of Zakariyya but forgot that Yahweh is his own name?
2. Of the 99 Arabic names of Allah, which one of them is translated as Yahweh?
3. Can you please resolve the Confusion of Allah, because Islamic prophets have names of Yahweh and not Allah?
Elijah (English) Eliyahu (Hebrew) Ilyās (Arabic)
Yahweh is my God (Meaning)

Zachariah (English) ZakarYah (Hebrew) Zakariyau (Arabic)
Yahweh Remembers (Meaning)

Jesus (English) Yehoshua/Yeshua (Hebrew) Isah (Arabic)
Salvation of Yahweh (Meaning)

John (English) Yahya/Yohanan (Hebrew) Yahyah (Arabic)
Yahweh is Gracious (Meaning)




To catch a Muslim in his lies is so simple : ask him a simple question.


If what you've written is true, I dare you to translate the following two Arabic sentences into English

1. Translate: محمد هو القاضي المتكبر لشعبه!
2. Translate : "الله هو القاضي المتكبر لشعبه!"


Muslims and lies!

Sahih International: O our people, respond to the Messenger of Allah and believe in him; Allah will forgive for you your sins and protect you from a painful punishment. (Quran 46:31)


The translation of the Quran, the holy book of Islam, is a complex and challenging task, as it involves conveying the essence of the original Arabic text into a different language. Translators face a dilemma when it comes to literal vs meaning translations of Quran verses. Literal translations aim to preserve the exact wording and structure of the original text, while meaning translations focus on capturing the intent and message behind the verses.

Literal Quran translations may often deprive readers of a true comprehension of its meanings. The Quran is written in classical Arabic, a language that is rich in metaphorical and contextual meaning. Translating Arabic into other languages often leads to losing some of the nuances and complexities of the original text.
Literal translations reduce the multifaceted nature of Quranic verses to a simplistic and limited understanding.

You don't see السامرى and سمير are derived from the same root?

The root words of الْسَّامِريّ are س م ر. In Arabic, root words are the foundation or building blocks from which different words are derived. These root words carry a core meaning and are helpful in understanding the meaning and context of words.

The root word س م ر has multiple meanings, including "to become red" or "to be tanned." From this core meaning, various derivatives are formed. For example, سَمَرَتْ means "to make something red" or "to dye." سُمْرَة, on the other hand, refers to the color brown or dark.

When it comes to الْسَّامِريّ, the root word س م ر is combined with the prefix ال

Yahweh is a Hebrew name.
Muhammad pbuh and his audience in Arabia speak arabic; what use is the informing of names in other languages?

Al-Mutakabir is an exclusive name for Allah and any other bearing this is only arrogance.

Abdul-Mutakabir shows a submissive to Al-Mutakabir and Mutakabireen is only arrogance/arrogant.

Did the Pharoah not equate himself to God?

The name Yahweh is highly revered in various religious traditions, especially in the Hebrew Bible. In Judaism and Christianity, it is considered too holy for humans to utter, leading to the use of alternative names like Adonai or Lord. This reluctance stems from a deep sense of humility and reverence, acknowledging the difference between divine and human nature. Misuse or desecration of Yahweh is considered a grievous offense. Instead, religious traditions focus on living a life that reflects the attributes associated with the divine name, such as love, compassion, and justice.