Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by Explore2xmore: 9:42pm On Sep 16, 2023 |
And you are not able to discern that what is meant is to use your translation for مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ in translating the verse? Do Picktall and Sahih's translations also have a separate affirming what is between his hands in their translations? TenQ: The question was to insert my translation of the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ in Qur'an 5:48, and that I did.
Can you please show me where Pickthall and Sahih International found the highlighted in Arabic of Qur'an 5:48?
Qur'an 5:48 Arabic وَأَنزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ بِٱلْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيْمِنًا عَلَيْهِ ۖ فَٱحْكُم بَيْنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعْ أَهْوَآءَهُمْ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلْحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلْنَا مِنكُمْ شِرْعَةً وَمِنْهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوْ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمْ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبْلُوَكُمْ فِى مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمْ ۖ فَٱسْتَبِقُوا۟ ٱلْخَيْرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرْجِعُكُمْ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ Qur'an 5:48 Pickthall And unto thee have We revealed the Scripture with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced-out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you (He hath made you as ye are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ.
Qur'an 5:48 Sahih Intl And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.
Can I put it to you than Muslim translations cannot be trusted? (As you insert words Allah didn't say into the Qur'an) In response to your ending question, a literal translation may not convey actual meaning. https://www.peppercontent.io/blog/literal-translation-issues-examples-and-solution/ |
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by Explore2xmore: 9:17pm On Sep 16, 2023 |
There's one highlight why do you have two translations in the complete verse you translated? TenQ: Are you blind!?
You highlighted in bold the phrase I've translated for you didn't you!?
Can you see why you are a time waster!? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by Explore2xmore: 9:13pm On Sep 16, 2023*. Modified: 9:30pm On Sep 16, 2023 |
You cannot choose which of the translations to go with and place both in the translation? Does this have an effect on the meaning? Or are you implying مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ appears twice in the sentence or an equivalent of this arabic? Simply put you are highly deceitful and mischievous. Or better still you follow the path of your friends or family that allege sayings or acts to Allah and Muhammad pbuh. TenQ: Are you blind!?
You highlighted in bold the phrase I've translated for you didn't you!?
Can you see why you are a time waster!? What reason do you have for putting 2 separate interpretations in the same sentence while separating them by the phrase and as a criterion over it? Is this how the arabic is written? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by Explore2xmore: 9:04pm On Sep 16, 2023 |
Let the initial issue be fully addressed first. You claim two related phrases in what you translate and I put it to you that only one exists there. What is chasing you? TenQ: Please respond first to my three questions!
Once you can speak the truth in Translating accurately the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ You will be free!
Again, please respond to my questions before you go on further |
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by Explore2xmore: 9:01pm On Sep 16, 2023 |
TenQ: And specifically in your question
I translated the bolded to be affirming what is between His hands
[/i] Kindly also highlight what you translate as confirming what was before it Your translation represented for you here: Quran 5:48 "And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ." |
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by Explore2xmore: 8:53pm On Sep 16, 2023 |
TenQ: affirming is not confirming Khai! You fall my hand! TenQ: It is a pure waste of time for me to engage a person whose level of English comprehension (most likely deliberately) does not understand that the word affirm is a synonym for the word confirm
For the tenth time I have asked you to Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
When you refused to do so, I even translated it for you as
the same as In English: "confirming what is between His hands"
And specifically in your question
I translated the bolded to be affirming what is between His hands
1. I challenge you to prove me in error with my translation by going word for word or phrase by phrase My translation : Quran 5:48 "And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
Now Mallam English Failure (Which I know is deliberate act of yours for you can speak fairly good English)
2. Which of these two translations below is wrong Translation of the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ a. "confirming what is between His hands" b. affirming what is between His hands
Please argue with common sense and stop being a time waster!
3. Stop using evasive techniques and answer my Questions
1. If Mohammed isn't Allah, protect me how come the Urine of Mohammed can deliver a person from hell fire 2. Is it untrue that the Urine of Mohammed can heal stomachache? 3. Is it untrue that you Muslims claim that the Urine of Mohammed is sweet and is the river of paradise?
Synonym is one of two or more words or expressions of the same language that have the same or nearly the same meaning in some or all sensesVery simple by your translation: Quran 5:48 "And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ." Simply state if both phrases emboldened above are in that sentence? Why did you place affirming what is between His hands in your translation along with confirming what was before it? Are both phrases there? What do you intend by that? Who else has translated in such manner? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by Explore2xmore: 7:35pm On Sep 16, 2023*. Modified: 7:51pm On Sep 16, 2023 |
Sahih al-Bukhari 2155 states: Abu Al-Yaman told us, Shuaib told us, on the authority of Al-Zuhri, Urwah ibn Al-Zubair said: Aisha, may God be pleased with her, entered upon the Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, and I mentioned To him, so the Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, said, “Buy and free, for loyalty belongs to the one who frees.” Then the Prophet, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, got up in the afternoon and praised God for what He deserved. Then he said, “ What is people who stipulate conditions that are not in the Book of God? If he stipulates a condition that is not in the Book of God, it is invalid, even if he stipulates a hundred conditions. “God’s condition is more deserving and more reliable
Also in Sahih al-Bukhari 5019, Narrated Abdul Aziz bin Rufai': Shaddad bin Ma'qil and I entered upon Ibn `Abbas. Shaddad bin Ma'qil asked him, “Did the Prophet (peace be upon him) leave anything (besides the Qur’an)?” He replied. “He didn't leave anything except what is between the two bindings (of the Qur’an).” [/b]Then we visited Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiyya and asked him (the same question). He replied, “[b]The Prophet (peace be upon him) did not leave except what is between the bindings (of the Qur’an).
Qutayba bin Saeed told us, Sufyan told us, on the authority of Abd al-Aziz bin Rafi’, he said: Shaddad bin Maqil and I entered upon Ibn Abbas, may God be pleased with them. Shaddad bin Maqil said to him: Did the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, leave thesomethingHe said: He left nothing but what is between the two covers . He said: We went to Muhammad Ibn al-Hanafiyyah and asked him, and he said: He left nothing but what is between the two covers .
Then Sahih al-Bukhari 6903 Narrated Ash-Shubi: I heard Abu Juhaifa saying, “I asked Ali ‘ Is there anything that is not in the Quran?’ {Once he said, what is not with the people?} Ali replied, 'By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an. The only understanding He gives man is in His book Book and what is written in this paper.' I asked, 'What is written in this paper?' He replied, 'Al-Aql (the regulation of Diya), about the ransom of captives, and the Judgment that a Muslim should not be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a disbeliever.'
Sadaqa bin Al-Fadl told us, Ibn Uyaynah told us, Mutarrif told us, he said I heard Al-Sha’bi, he said I heard Abu Juhayfa, he said I asked Ali - may God be pleased with him - Do you have something that is not in the Qur’an? And he once said, “What people do not have,” and he said, “By the One who united love and created the soul, we do not have it . ” Except what is in the Qur’an , except an understanding that is given to a man in his book, and what is in the document. I said, and what is in the document. The mind said, and the redemption of the prisoner, and that he should not be killed by touching him. Blame an infidel...
Why then do you place much importance on what neither Allah nor his prophet pbuh placed importance on?
These sayings you lay much importance on should be queried in regard of what was the case with the first 4 Caliphs after Muhammad pbuh. DId they permit their collection? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Benefits Of Drinking The Blessed Urine Of Our Holy Prophet Mohammed! by Explore2xmore: 7:24pm On Sep 16, 2023 |
How can we take Tenq seriously when he presented: TenQ: As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.
The translation : Quran 5:48 "And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:
مُصَدِّقًا (affirming) لِمَا (to what) بَيۡنَ (between) يَدَيۡهِ (his hands) So, it translates to "affirming what is between his hands"
Are you satisfied! As a translation for: وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ Please note he has defined an equivalent for affirming. Can he present another equivalent for confirming in the above verse? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 11:05pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
The Question was are parts of ayah revealed or parts of Surahs? How many verses of Al-Alaq were revealed in the very first revelation. You tried to divert from your fraud! Allahu Akbar Kabeera! TenQ: I am sure that you don't know that Al-Qalam was revealed in Mecca Except verses 17-33 and 48-50 which are from from Medina
Al-Muzzammil was revealed in Mecca Except verses 10, 11 and 20, which were revealed at Medina
Only verses 1-3 person of Al-Maa'un was revealed in Mecca while the rest were revealed in Medina
An-Najm was revealed in Mecca Except verse 32, which was revealed in Medina
https://tanzil.net/docs/revelation_order
Is it true that Allah revealed the Qur'an in parts with Surahs in parts? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:58pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Explore2xmore: A. I cannot be satisfied as you have put in other words. وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ And We sent down to you the Scripture with truth, confirming what was before him of the Scripture and establishing control over it.
B. فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ So judge between them according to what God has revealed.
C. وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا And do not follow their inclinations regarding the truth that has come to you. For each of you We have given you a law and a way of life.
Where do you have confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands? Or are these interchangeable translations of the meaning? وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِA وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ B وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ C وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖD فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ E إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ F D. If God had willed, He would have made you into a single nation, but that He might test you in what He has given you.
E.So they will stay ahead of the good ones. F. To Allah is the return of all of you, and He will inform you of that concerning which you differed.
Show me affirming and confirming as distinctly written in the verse Q5:48 TenQ: As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.
The translation : Quran 5:48 "And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:
مُصَدِّقًا (affirming) لِمَا (to what) بَيۡنَ (between) يَدَيۡهِ (his hands) So, it translates to "affirming what is between his hands"
Are you satisfied! @Mightysparrow can you be an unbiased judge or is it @SirTee15 that will uphold the truth? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:53pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Now you want to correct what you know too little off? Fantastic! [color=#770077][/color] TenQ: So, non of you are correcting the directs words of Allah so that you can create meaning from it?
It's okay! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:50pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Your rascality now remembers civility? TenQ: I have closed your case on this sir as you don't have any solid arguments. You are just struggling and splashing about like a drowning man.
Please, let's end this chat in a civil manner! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:49pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Sorry you lied? Were misled or what? Reduce the typographical errors in your writing please or is this code? TenQ: Sorry! What you thought was impossible has beenade bare to you. Your argument has now shifted from affirming to confirming! SMH
Please go and sleep or answer the question!
Is it true that Mohammed's Urine is the river of Paradise? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:31pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
End in a civil manner without your defense or acceptance of your mischief? Haha! See who referred to escapism. Own up that you attempted to manipulate and deceive. TenQ: I have closed your case on this sir as you don't have any solid arguments. You are just struggling and splashing about like a drowning man.
Please, let's end this chat in a civil manner! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:28pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Obviously you cannot produce affirming and confirming in this verse. Explore2xmore: The expert
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ
It occurs here too. Fit in your translation! TenQ: As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.
The translation : Quran 5:48 "And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:
مُصَدِّقًا (affirming) لِمَا (to what) بَيۡنَ (between) يَدَيۡهِ (his hands) So, it translates to "affirming what is between his hands"
Are you satisfied! TenQ: I have closed your case on this sir as you don't have any solid arguments. You are just struggling and splashing about like a drowning man.
Please, let's end this chat in a civil manner! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:24pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
TenQ: As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.
The translation : Quran 5:48 "And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:
مُصَدِّقًا (affirming) لِمَا (to what) بَيۡنَ (between) يَدَيۡهِ (his hands) So, it translates to "affirming what is between his hands"
Are you satisfied! TenQ: I have closed your case on this sir as you don't have any solid arguments. You are just struggling and splashing about like a drowning man.
Please, let's end this chat in a civil manner! End the chat as you are exposed saying confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands is the translation of the meaning of Q5:48. My goodness it is obvious some people are dead to the truth and long lost a conscience. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:17pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
TenQ: You are just splashing about aimlessly as if your comprehension is below average. [quote author=Explore2xmore post=125817428]A. I cannot be satisfied as you have put in other words. وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ And We sent down to you the Scripture with truth, confirming what was before him of the Scripture and establishing control over it.
B. فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ So judge between them according to what God has revealed.
C. وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا And do not follow their inclinations regarding the truth that has come to you. For each of you We have given you a law and a way of life.
Where do you have confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands? Or are these interchangeable translations of the meaning? وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِA وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ B وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ C وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖD فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ E إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ F D. If God had willed, He would have made you into a single nation, but that He might test you in what He has given you.
E.So they will stay ahead of the good ones. F. To Allah is the return of all of you, and He will inform you of that concerning which you differed.
Show me affirming and confirming as distinctly written in the verse Q5:48 You can rest in peace as I have answered you. LOL![/quote] Explore2xmore: TenQ caught lying now he says another being should die. How convenient.
I have remained on this thread. How many threads are you active on in the last 12hrs? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:17pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
TenQ caught lying now he says another being should die. How convenient. I have remained on this thread. How many threads are you active on in the last 12hrs? TenQ: You are just splashing about aimlessly as if your comprehension is below average.
You can rest in peace as I have answered you. LOL! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:14pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
In any case show what you translate to confirm and what you translate to affirm in Q5:48 TenQ: As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.
The translation : Quran 5:48 "And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:
مُصَدِّقًا (affirming) لِمَا (to what) بَيۡنَ (between) يَدَيۡهِ (his hands) So, it translates to "affirming what is between his hands"
Are you satisfied!
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Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 10:03pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Very very good. You have shown here مُصَدِّقًا (affirming) please which arabic is confirming in this same verse? TenQ: As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.
The translation : Quran 5:48 "And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:
مُصَدِّقًا (affirming) لِمَا (to what) بَيۡنَ (between) يَدَيۡهِ (his hands) So, it translates to "affirming what is between his hands"
Are you satisfied! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 9:47pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
A. I cannot be satisfied as you have put in other words. وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ And We sent down to you the Scripture with truth, confirming what was before him of the Scripture and establishing control over it. B. فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ So judge between them according to what God has revealed. C. وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا And do not follow their inclinations regarding the truth that has come to you. For each of you We have given you a law and a way of life. Where do you have confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands? Or are these interchangeable translations of the meaning? وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِA وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ B وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ C وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖD فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ E إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ F D. If God had willed, He would have made you into a single nation, but that He might test you in what He has given you. E.So they will stay ahead of the good ones. F. To Allah is the return of all of you, and He will inform you of that concerning which you differed. Show me affirming and confirming as distinctly written in the verse Q5:48 TenQ: As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.
The translation : Quran 5:48 "And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:
مُصَدِّقًا (affirming) لِمَا (to what) بَيۡنَ (between) يَدَيۡهِ (his hands) So, it translates to "affirming what is between his hands"
Are you satisfied! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 9:29pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Assuming you are totally speaking the truth put each word or phrase in this verse with the translation/translation of the meaning lets know if you didn't insert affirming what is between His hands or confirming what was before it as they both cannot be there at the same time. Appreciate in advance TenQ: As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.
The translation : Quran 5:48 "And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:
مُصَدِّقًا (affirming) لِمَا (to what) بَيۡنَ (between) يَدَيۡهِ (his hands) So, it translates to "affirming what is between his hands"
Are you satisfied! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 9:24pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Guy affirming and confirming are synonyms yes? There however is just one مُصَدِّقًا where did you get the second? This your translation repeats some phrases/words. Recheck it please. TenQ: As Christians, Jews we don't dodge answering questions like you.
The translation : Quran 5:48 "And We have sent down to you the Book with truth, confirming what was before it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it, affirming what is between His hands of the Scripture, and He is the Trustee over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you, We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but to test you in what He has given you; so race to good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."
Word by word translation of "مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ" is:
مُصَدِّقًا (affirming) لِمَا (to what) بَيۡنَ (between) يَدَيۡهِ (his hands) So, it translates to "affirming what is between his hands"
Are you satisfied! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 6:52pm On Sep 15, 2023*. Modified: 7:07pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
TenQ: Are you correcting the directs words of Allah so that you can create meaning from it? Check the context is it saying the book has hands?
Compare Quran 3:3 with
Quran 2:41: Literal Translation: "And believe in what I have sent down confirming that which is [already] with you, and be not the first to disbelieve in it. And do not exchange My signs for a small price, and fear [only] Me."
Quran 2:89: Literal Translation: "And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of Allah will be upon the disbelievers."
Quran 2:101: Literal Translation: "And when there came to them a Messenger from Allah confirming that which was with them, a party of those who had been given the Scripture threw the Scripture of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know [what it contained]."
Finally,
Translate Qur'an 2:91 وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ آمِنُوا بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ قَالُوا نُؤْمِنُ بِمَا أُنزِلَ عَلَيْنَا وَيَكْفُرُونَ بِمَا وَرَاءَهُ وَهُوَ الْحَقُّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا مَعَهُمْ قُلْ فَلِمَ تَقْتُلُونَ أَنبِيَاءَ اللَّهِ مِن قَبْلُ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ
It also contain The Arabic: مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا مَعَهُمْ ≠ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ I gave you a verse with exactly that phrase and you cannot deliver. Let us know where you got stuck. The direct/exact words of Allah are in arabic and not the translations Explore2xmore: The expert
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ
It occurs here too. Fit in your translation! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 5:46pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
He has sent down upon you the Book with the truth, confirming what is BETWEEN ITS/HIS HANDS (musaddiqan lima bayna yadayhi), and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel before this, as guidance to the people, and He sent down the Salvation/Criterion (al-Furqan). As for those who disbelieve in God's signs, for them awaits a terrible chastisement; God is All-mighty, the Avenger.
He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel
He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.
Which of these make the most sense expert Tenq?
Does the book have hands? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 3:55pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
The expert Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: وَأَنزَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيۡهِ مِنَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ وَمُهَيۡمِنًا عَلَيۡهِ ۖ فَٱحۡكُم بَيۡنَهُم بِمَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعۡ أَهۡوَآءَهُمۡ عَمَّا جَآءَكَ مِنَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلۡنَا مِنكُمۡ شِرۡعَةً وَمِنۡهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوۡ شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمۡ أُمَّةً وَٰحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبۡلُوَكُمۡ فِي مَآ ءَاتَىٰكُمۡ ۖ فَٱسۡتَبِقُواْ ٱلۡخَيۡرَٰتِ ۚ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ It occurs here too. Fit in your translation! TenQ: Muslims will insist on lies till tomorrow : it's your nature.
It is Honourable to own up to an error or mistake or misunderstanding : but not you people.
The Arabic: مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ is the same as In English: " confirming what is between His hands"
Don't bother again: I won't confuse you with the Truth as your mind is made up. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 3:40pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Was مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ revealed in Isolation? Tell me was this alone revealed or along with other words? Can you establish the meaning of the aforementioned in exclusion of the verse in which it's contained? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 3:17pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Did you not say? Wrt to the emboldened why then do you ask questions regarding translations of me? TenQ: I said:
Is the Arabic: مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ the same as In English: "confirming what is between His hands"?
This is a proof that Your English translations of the Qur'an CANNOT be Trusted one bit.
Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ
It is a word for word extract from Qur'an 3:3
Why do your scholars mistranslate such a simple Arabic? TenQ: Escapist technique!
Your Islamic scholars translation (those who translate your Qur'an)cannot be trusted.!
Answer my question :
Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 3:13pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
An āyah (Arabic: آية, Arabic pronunciation: [ʔaː.ja]; plural: آيات ʾāyāt) is a "verse" in the Quran, one of the statements of varying length that make up the chapters (surah) of the Quran and are marked by a number. Did parts of an ayah get revealed or ayat of a Quran Surah get revealed? TenQ: Surah= Chapter Ayah= verses
Yes , Allah revealed the Qur'an in parts with Surahs in part
Why is it that you can't Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 1:10pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Define what an Ayah is first? Maybe then you will understand my question Explore2xmore: You are unable to understand. Did Allah reveal ayahs in parts or Surahs in parts? Can you not see reason why that is? TenQ: Yes, Allah revealed the Qur'an in parts with Surahs in part
Why is it that you can't Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed, the Almighty Partner Of Allah! by Explore2xmore: 12:33pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Now I didn't translate. Remember my translations cannot be trusted TenQ: Why is it that you can't Translate the phrase : مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ and then we see how it fits into Qur'an 3:3? How can a book confirm itself?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Another Lie Of Islam: Mohammed Sold To Muslims As An Illiterate by Explore2xmore: 12:23pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Your fear of the truth? Does the court of law always do justice? You have checked the meanings of كتب I know but you will not admit. Does his asking for a pen and paper definitely mean he himself was going to write? Didn't uneducated forefathers who knew not how to read or write ask for and purchase this for their words who were learning or could read or write? Ogbeni your premise on this argument is wrong. TenQ: In the court of law, falsehood is determined through questioning
1. Does it make sense to give pen and paper to an illiterate!? 2. What would be the purpose? |