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Are there any parks, green areas, leisurely areas, ponds, lakes, wildlife park, sanctuaries, etc, instead of concrete and steel even if in the works? Like this:

https://www.visitingdc.com/images/central-park-picture.jpg

ifyalways: Transparent: gbaa ihe.

Transparency : puta ihe.

Good one.

ifyalways: Work : oru

Labour can also be said to be hard work : oru ike
Hand work : oru aka.

What about ike aka for labour?

ChinenyeN: Transparency.

I also have: Cha íhé (allows light to pass through). Cha as in 'cha uzọ'. Or even Ọ na cha íhé uzọ.

Metalgoong: hahahahaha . . .

So after the industrious and hardworking Anambrarians have raised the capital and started exploring the oil in their state, some lazy beings suddenly realized that the oil wells are located in their vicinity.

Well, I have this Igbo adage for my Kogi brothers: O ji oso agbakwu ogu amaghi na ogu bu onwu! (He who goes into a fight headlong, doesn't know that fight is death) . . I hope they wont dare aguleri/umuleri millitants!

I even forgot this was Aguleri people they were talking about!

Ironi: Lets face it, if the whitemen had not shown up in Africa, say Nigeria, you would still be running around butt naked and eating each other.

Just recognize the truth and stop the pretence.

Yep, you may have oil which makes you a little arrogant, but again lets face it, the white man had to
disclose to you that you have oil and even so there was not a damn thing you could have done about it if he had not come to extract from the ground for you.

Yep, the truth hurts.

Let's not act like people without brains. There was nothing civilised about dragging people on ships to sacrifice to your money god. [South] Koreans 100 years ago also did not know the full potential of crude oil or how to extract it, still they are one of the most industrialised nations on earth today.

chrisxxx: Believe me this is the threshold of insanity. SA may have competitive advantage in same areas of development but not in all. If SA is Nigeria's big brother then US and Britain become our God and ancestor respectively. We are friendly competitors not big brother to any. I humbly disagree with you minister.

The United States is definitely Nigeria's "God" and Britain is definitely Nigeria's ancestor.

Let there not be environmental damage like seen in other oil producing areas, because I know Nigerian greed does not care for wildlife and the environment.

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"An exterior door (mgbo-ezi) carved in a traditional Nri-Awka style, Igbo peoples, Nigeria, 19th—20th century. Photo by Zbigniew Dmochowski, 1960s."

Madness de!

Is this a recent trend, or have herdsmen been killing people in Nigeria for some time, because all this seems new.

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"Arochuku. Snapshots taken in Southern Nigeria during The Aro Punitive Expedition 1901. Provided by Donald A. MacAlis in 1959"

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"Native bridge near Arochukwu, Nigeria with canoes passing under. By Charles Stanley Partridge, 1903."

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Ignorance at its peak AGAIN!

Normans are descendants of Viking Norsemen. Norman itself means "people from the North". if you are not convinced , then do some independant research yourself and dont make childish argument without any proofs!

OMGS! ENGLISH ARE HYBRID DESCENDANTS OF BRITONS/CELTS, SAXONS, ANGLES, NORMANS & ROMANS!

the point is, there is and it is unspoken. even most of our cultural mythologies, religions , rituals, values, etc is unwritten. it is just understood. We Tribals are all Pagans! [/quote]I don't think you understand. The fact that Normans descended from the Norsemen doesn't make them Norsemen, otherwise the English are to be considered Germans, which they are not. Every tribe on earth descended from another group of people who they have no affiliation with today. The Normans were in the North of France so long that they became French-speaking, on their conquest of England they brought the French language along with them, not any Germanic language. The Norsemen did not speak French so it's just an unnecessary confusion to call Norsemen and Normans the same people when they didn't even have the same culture and language.

"The Normans or north men (in French: Normands; in German: Nordmänner) were the people[1] who gave their name to Normandy, a region in northern France. They were descended from Norse Viking conquerors of the territory and the native population of Frankish[2] and Gallo-Roman stock.[3]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normans

This "unspoken tribal law" is something made up in this thread and it would be ridiculous to believe that there is some kind of exclusive law between tribes as far as the distance in time and space between the Igbo groups and the Vikings, unless it's basic human instinct or something that arose from contact. It's also condescending because it implies tribes are all working out of impulse while nation states have developed their own laws consciously.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]There is no such true tribe! if you know of any such, give me examples! why make such base claims!!!! i will see if that group is even really tribal or not. .



i just said horned helmets in reply to that poster who said so. Whatevrer it is, todays mixed descendants neither wear the original dress, dances, songs, culture, etc.



i think you are ignorant on Tribal matters. The Normans or north men were descended from Norse Viking conquerors of the territory. The Duchy of Normandy was founded by the 10th century Norse leader Rollo, in the former kingdom of Neustria, part of the Kingdom of France.[/quote]Normans are different to the Norsemen, even if they related, just like Angles are different from the English. The point is, there is no such thing as a universal tribal law.

ChinenyeN: Genetic ancestries is a different discussion. I'm only talking about the [non]existent "Igbo blood" that apparently defines "Igbo people".

Yes, there's no such thing as blood that defines any people, unless we're talking about people with blood infections and diseases.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]did i say Igbos are unpure i just said that any half-Igbo is not an Igbo and tribal.

anyways, answer my question: do Vikings exist today?[/quote]Them existing today (or whether they evolved into the people we now know as Danish or Norwegians) is not the point, the point is that may tribal groups which would be under your "universal tribal law" absorbed other tribes into them and their identities didn't change.

[quote author=tpia@]the vikings were a subtribe of norsemen.


today, norsemen are known as scandinavians and are found in various european countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norsemen

the hairstyle, horned helmets, etc changed but that doesnt mean their descendants arent around.

are you saying otherwise?

share plz.[/quote]The horned helmets are a myth apparently.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]no you are wrong. Scandinavia is a territory and today any people who live in Scandinavia call themselves Scandinavians. They are not true Norsemen due to largescale imigrations into and out of Scandinavia by people from Central and Eastern Europe. why else are they not referring to themselves today as Norsemen or Vikings, (except the historians) Also where are their Norse traditional clothes, dances, songs, ship-building and other traditional craft, religions, or lifestyle isnt that what makes them Norse in the first place? how many of them have already assimilated with other Finnish people, Samis, etc.? however as to the Finnish peoples, i can say that most of their sub-tribes are the original pure ones.

ok lets say for the sake of argument that their are a few pockets of pure Norse population. and their might be. but what about todays british. they are a mixture of Britons, Normans(Norsemen), Saxons, Angles, Jutes, Romans & Celts. are you going to then tel me that Saxons, or Britons exist today.! !! !

let me tell you a FACT. after the advent of christianity, there was massive wave of de-tribalisation and assimilation across Europe to destroy the tribes and henceforth prevent a return to Traditional Paganism. europe has lost all her tribes, save those in the extrem Northern & North-Eastern regions.

ok now lets say many of todays akatas have Igbo blood , maybe 5% or 20-30% of their blood quantum. are you going to say that they are Igbo?! ! [/quote]You may have heard of the Danish and [b]Nor[/b]wegians. Normans are different to Norsemen. Normans are a French-cultured Germanic tribe from Normandy, whereas Norsemen are from Scandinavia. This makes the English mostly Germanic.

"Norsemen is used to refer to the group of people as a whole who spoke what is now called the Old Norse language belonging to the North Germanic branch of Indo-European languages, especially Norwegian, Icelandic, Faroese, Swedish and Danish in their earlier forms."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norsemen

odumchi: The Wikipedia census should deal only with people who are of direct (up to great grand parents) Igbo descent. Trying to count everyone in this world that has a drop of "Igbo blood" is like trying to count the stars.

Wikipedia counts Americans with an English ancestor from 1690 as of English descent, they list it along with their other descents since most Americans have multiple ancestry. Look at the page for English people, they count all those that listed themselves as English in the US census as English descent, even though they have multiple ancestries from hundreds of years ago. The Igbo people article has counted people from the 19th century (direct slaves) who arrived on those islands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people

Regions with significant populations
United Kingdom 45,265,093[1]
United States 25,927,345 - 49,598,035 a [2]'[3]
Canada 6,570,015 b [4]
Australia 6,358,880 c [5]
New Zealand 44,202 – 281,895 [6]

Andre Uweh: The Igbo society has changed a lot from the way it is viewed in the past. Nothing stops one from being an Igbo if he identifies himself as Igbo and practices Igbo culture e.g speaks the language, joins Igbo affiliations, eats Igbo dishes etc.
For example, this photograph is a man who speaks Igbo language fluently, eats Igbo dishes, wears Igbo traditional attires, is a member of his local chapter of Ohanaeze and proudly identifies himself as Igbo. It will be an insult to take the Igbo out of him.

I don't fail to see this mans picture with "full blooded Igbo" over it on every discussion of Igbo society, if it isn't him, it's the picture of white women dancing "Igbo dance".

ChinenyeN: I can't believe people are actually having this stupid discussion about "Igbo blood" and "Igbohood". There is no such thing as "Igbo blood", and "Igbohood" only exists because of the ethno-linguistic creation of "Igbo people". So enough of this "genetic" (a.k.a "real"/"fake" Igbo) discussion.

There's no such thing as "Igbo blood" but there are genetic ancestries linking the Igbo people.

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"Wall painting in Okwu village painted by an Anang artist in the style of Ngwomo ghost houses.
G. I. Jones, 1930s."

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"Southeastern Nigeria, 1930s."

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"Prisoners at Bende [Abia, Nigeria] Chop-time [this may be krio/pidgin/creole for ‘lunch’]
1890s"

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]it is not about your culture or my culture or Goodluck Jonathans' culture. The Universal unspoken tribal law dictates that if a person has no pure tribal blood, he is not tribal.

you add little bacterial culture to milk and it becomes curd. it doesnt stay milk.[/quote]I don't know about this "universal unspoken tribal law" (as if tribes didn't invade other tribes and absorb their women as full members of the tribe, like the Vikings), but in Igbo culture there's no such thing as "un-pure" Igbo.

There's no such thing as "half breed" in the majority of Igbo cultures.

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"H Same building as (3) - near Umuahia [Abia State, Nigeria]
Edward Rowland Chadwick, 1920s."

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"Burning Arochuku
— Donald A MacAlister, Aftermath of the Anglo-Aro war (or “punitive expedition”) of 1901."

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"Prisoners at Bende [now in Abia State, Nigeria] Morning Parade
Late 19th century."

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"‘Agada’ seating chair “for the elderly”, wood and cane, ‘acquired’ by M Jefferey’s for the British Museum in 1954. Igbo, Nigeria."

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"On ABA-OWERRI road [Imo State, Nigeria]. MBARI house. 28/2/46.
— William Buller Fagg, 1940s."

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"3 March 1905. Ogu-Itu Bende District [Abia State, Nigeria]. Government rest-house.
— Charles S. Partridge"

There are people with Fulani fathers that are Igbo.

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"UWHO [IGBO SHRINE] AT AMANSI.

Anthropological report on the Ibo-speaking peoples of Nigeria, Northcote Thomas (1913)"

[quote author=tpia@]nigerian culture is patrilineal, meaning a child goes with his father's tribe unless there are circumstances that prevent him or her from doing so.[/quote]Not all Nigeria culture[b]S[/b] are patrilineal.

manny4life: Is that the pics of the "multi billion company"?

It better had been bigger and better that what's in that pic.



The Dubai dreams takes years of financial discipline/investment and less corrupt environment to come through. On that note, not only one person or groups of persons can achieve the Dubai dream, but EVERYONE. Anambra may be at it, but still far from the reality of Dubai dream.

Everyone in the world agrees Dubai is a soulless city built with and on slaves from Asia and East Africa. Don't look to Dubai when there are so many better less gaudy options. All the glitters....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMh-vlQwrmU

The recent diaspora is also very unclear since there are many illegals and people who do not interact with other Nigerians, plus there are those in 'uncharted' territories for Nigeria, for example can anyone guess the number of Igbo people in Papua? The whole of the Igbo diaspora isn't in the US alone.

Isn't Enugu going to be sharing this oil with others? Has there been significant development in other oil producing states or have we seen the rise of militancy?

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