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[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=737517.msg8940004#msg8940004 date=1313543741]We don't want to hear from him anymore. He should sit there in his hspital room and reminisce about what difference he could have made by listening to the voice of wisdom that told him to slow down and accept what he was given and use it, through negotiations, to secure more[/quote]There are more than 30 million Nigerians that want to hear from him. If you don't want to hear, then the politics section has hundreds of Ojukwu-free threads. Apart from that, there's nothing you or anybody can do to remove the love for Ojukwu a nation of 30 million individuals have, whether in light or dark. That should be all.

Finecat:
Nonsense, he needs to hurry up. And he can take the rest of his Biafra cult with him. Nigeria will be a more peaceful and less corrupt Country.

Biafra or Ojukwu's name isn't going anywhere and will continue to scare you people into knee-jerk reactions till Nigeria ends and beyond.

People that never fought for anything usually have the loudest mouths that get them and their offspring killed all around the world.

Abagworo:
Left for me,I will scrap all autonomous communities created after 1903.

Agreed. We'd probably be left with monarchs we can count on our fingers on one hand for the Igbo east of the Niger.

9jaganja:
If properly organized, they represent the people in a world where "modernization" is uprooting people from their destinies turning them souless power greedy/greedy people, Traditional rulers are the people who suppose to ensure their people stay positive and maintain their dignity, And educated traditional rulers with insight can indirectly lead to eradication of illiteracy among his/her people because he directs the culture and traditions,

They must have forgotten their roles I guess,

That's the whole point. It is the colonisation, modernisation and the resultant bastardization and modification of Igbo culture that makes it possible for there to be 600 "traditional rulers" in Imo, a state that is traditionally the least centralised in the whole of Africa. These traditional rulers provide nothing for the communities apart from offering a single voice to government, and other administrative duties that were easily done by Igbo elders for centuries. You have to understand that in a state such as Imo, most of these 'monarchs' are the first of their kind in their communities, and the titles are bought with money, nothing like a hereditary monarchy in most of Igboland, especially in Imo.

None of these "monarchs" have a say in a traditional courts in their communities anyway where every Diala's vote is equal, from the poor farmer to the rich "monarch" that bought his mock Bini crown in town.

And this thread is supposed to carry on like 90% of Ojukwu threads, where insecure people vomit out the same lines they heard from their father over and over again like some broken records? If you're scared of him, its best leaving yourself out of these threads because the admiration from the people he supposedly led to death hasn't been vanished much by nairalands efforts, has it?

Imo state communities do not rely on the "traditional rulers" for anything apart from disputes, which used to be settled by the community, and other decisions, which have, and will be made by the community anyway. Most of these "traditional rulers" can disappear and nothing will happen. Most of these monarchies probably didn't even exist in the 80s. 600 rulers, are you kidding? In Imo?

Ugh, this thread is about Col Ojukwu. I'm pretty sure the nature, wildlife, travel, whatever section is there to discuss wildlife.

odumchi:
He came back from the spirit world

To torment ape bitches.

Who's she telling? Muhaha.

macjive01:
According to him, “any Igbo man abusing our traditional rulers in any guise is a bastard. He does not deserve to be called . . . .


http://www.imostateforum.com/index.html/index.php?topic=170.0

But many of these "traditional rulers" aren't even. . . . . . "traditional"? Especially not in Imo state.

Densely parked laces? Trololololol

Yoruba people live in a few large cities, Igbo people live in densely packed compounds in densely packed villages that are linked side-by-side-by-side. I thought we've been through this.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=735593.msg8932069#msg8932069 date=1313466559]Koruji, you should stop replying to this garbage. Makes no sense.[/quote]Seems you people find out you're black once a white person is involved.

koruji:
Thank you ja re. This is good advice.

Can't make decisions for yourself. Makes sense.

koruji:
I have never heard anything more foolish in my life. Someone basically said violent rioting is black culture and you are telling me I should not talk about ancient things that a people did. It is in your mouth that the words became "a certain kind of criminal-glorifying black youth culture". What the guy said without interpretation is "black" - not a kind of criminal-glorifying bla bla bla. And what makes into a "black youth" culture, whatever happened to "youth" - white or black.

Yes! And I'll say it again. A certain type of BLACK youth culture that glorifies getting money/possessions in whatever way possible. This is what can be seen in the US as well where BLACK people are killing themselves for a pair of sneakers. The slangs these BLACK youth use comes from BLACK youth culture, just like the slangs the BLACK youth use in London comes from patois in Jamaica.

koruji:
You think a culture is formed in a few years. It is the product of hundreds of years. The culture that lies underneath much of the wealth you see in the West today is the above. We can for the sake of civility decide to make the best of the current world we live in, but let no fool start talking about black culture of violence, forgetting their own culture of stealing people, land and property all in one breath.

This doesn't make any sense, why should black people sit back and watch their kids go mad all over the world and tell themselves their culture is developing?

koruji:
What appears to your bourgeoisie self as "criminal-glorifying culture" is the live those people live. That is what they know day-in-day-out - so don't be surprised when it comes out in the open. Condemn any act of looting and violence, but resist the urge to bring race into it.

That is EXACTLY what I'm condemning. The fact that they want to carry on as gangstas in a country that nearly makes it a law for the prime minister to breast feed each baby. They even get paid to go to secondary school, so what's the 'live they live'?

koruji:
You are so racist-against-yourself that you cannot see the fallacy of your own argument. It doesn't matter if all the people rioting were black, it doesn't justify the reference to a black culture or "becoming black". Look at you talking about the kind of shops being looted - each day you meet your black brothers in London, you are probably looking at those that are less-to-do through those racist eyes of yours. Shame!!!

Actually, you're the one who is clueless and careless enough not to admit your "race" is heading in the wrong direction. All this 'we've been carrying Europe on our back for 500 years' is tired, most of all from Africans. I never supported David Starkey saying the "whites are becoming black" but I agree that there's a certain type of urban youth culture from BLACK people that's bad for society.

koruji:
How can anyone justify the SELF-WILLING participation of a white person in rioting and looting as being due to black culture - only bigoted minds will see it like that, and I am not surprised that u are the one supporting such senseless explanation on this forum. You make my stomach turn

Most of the rioters in London were BLACK! Most of the areas that rioting started in were BLACK! The rioting started in a black neighbourhood because of the killing of a BLACK man!

razznaija:
Could not find pictures of fulani girls but i found some pictures of hausa women. girls.http://www.bellanaija.com/2010/11/15/bn-wedding-glam-the-sheriff-shagaya-maryam-tukur-wedding/

They're dressed like Yoruba people and have white weddings?

If you didn't reply I would have thought my mission failed, but you've fell for my trollolololol.

Eko Ile:
Olodo, no sabi history. No be yoruba man whoop your biafra to surrender abi no another yoruba man biafra surrender to?

[center][img]http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~pv/pv/courses/posters/images3/colonies1.jpg[/img][/center]

Glad to have nothing to do with this legacy ^^^. I can set a chimpanzee to deform you, it doesn't mean that the chimpanzee race has won any battles against humans. That's like Togo claiming victory over the kingdom of Benin. Hee hee hee hee hee.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=733755.msg8924256#msg8924256 date=1313379999]are yorubas up to 1000 sef outside yorubaland.[/quote]That must mean that all the recent crisis that was tearing the north apart has finished your diaspora, oh well, too bad you can't spread out an multiply. Hilarious people.

koruji:
Did u lose your way or something? Who is talking about black parents/children being rabid & in which white country?

[size=14pt]The guy said white people participated in the riots because they have become black. I hope you know what that means.[/size]

I guess Prime Minister Cameron, who wants to be pulling facebook & twitter accounts, is now a Chinese official by your measure too. Go and see the propaganda the Chinese are already putting out just because of that statement - which obviously stinks of hypocrisy.

Nothing justifies the looting that went on, whether white or black, but that is as far as it goes - people are the same everywhere, only governments/leaders are different.

The point is the UK is not a black country, and London isn't even majority black, but the majority of the people looting were black. The blame on "black culture" may be wrong, but a certain kind of criminal-glorifying black youth culture seems to have become the trend amongst youths around the world and it is definitely partly to blame for these riots, look at the stores that were worst hit, sports wear and 'street fashion' stores. The other problem is with the parents of these children. Naming all the bad things white people did in ancient times isn't relevant to the issues of black people.

koruji:
I don't like the way the black woman responded at all.

I would have prefered a dirty slap to the right side of his dirty mouth.

Otherwise, a quick run-down of the last 500 or so years of history would have done him some good. During that time the queen/king of a certain country sent his subjects all over the world eradicating whole cultures (the Indians of North America in particular), stealing people (millions of slaves from Africa), stealing their lands and carting away all their precious resources - everybody else. Which culture do we classify that as? - I would ask him and watch his face turn red.

Ignoramous buffoon.

That doesn't make it right for black parents to let their children go rabid in a white country.

Abagworo:
1) Igbos outside Igboland rarely speak or teach their children Igbo in order to avoid persecution associated with Igbo identity.So Igbos are more multilingual than any ethnic group in Nigeria.

[size=14pt]Hah![/size] I thought it was because they couldn't be bothered/don't want their children to speak bush talk. Anyway, when the teachers read out the Okoros surname in the classrooms everyone will know who they are.

I heard Nigerian languages (you know the languages, didn't say the name just incase).

Finecat:
Go and re-bury those Cowards again. We dont ever want to see them again in Nigeria.

People who have never fought for anything.

A good day indeed.

It's a good day when Eko Ile is pissed. Means the south east is doing something right.

I don't think this had anything with the Government of the Federal Republic of Nigeriastan, so your opinions can be held to yourself.

Central Igbo is taught in Owa. Too late. So there's no need in anyone busting their brains because of this issue.

freepeople:
IMO, [size=14pt]it would be nice if war museum and library are built beside the memorial site[/size]. This will serve to educate the future generations on their history. Cause history tends to repeat itself.

Umuahia.