₦airaland Forum

ChinenyeN:
Geographically, yeah, if you draw a line midway across Igbo area, but not as a cultural division. 'True South' would be Uratta-Ngwa-Echee-Ikwere axis. Cross River and North Central aren't part of the south, but you've got some elements of them grouped along with the south. Aro for example are Cross River, but you've got them grouped with the south. Another example is Isu groups (Imo state), who are culturally North Central, but it looks like you've grouped them with the south too.

Riverine Igbo are southern Igbo by way of kinship. The Aro are right near the Cross River, and they do have some parts of Cross River culture, but so does a large part of Northern Abia state. Aro is closer related to the other groups in the south than it is to the other real Cross River Igbo that can be found in Ebonyi and some parts of Abia. The North Western Igbo would be the Cross River Igbo. Who are you counting in as North Central, because that was a very rough description to give an example?

abagoro:
You made a very grave mistake in that southern Igbo classification.Mbaise,Ngwa,Asa,Ohuhu,Etche and Ndoki definitely belong.Ikwerre and Oratta(Owerri) are more closely related while Ogba,Egbema,Oguta,Ohaji and Ndoni belong to another class.

They are probably the south west while Owerre maybe more of the other southern groups although they are still kind of in the middle with other groups to their west.

ChinenyeN:
I get that, but my point is that it's too broad and too inclusive. In that 'Southern' Igbo group, it seems like you've got 'Riverine' Igbo, actual 'Southern' Igbo, some 'Cross River' [Eastern] Igbo, and quite possibly some 'North-Central' Igbo as well. It's just too inclusive.

Riverine Igbo are southern Igbo, or what would be 'True South' in my earlier post. Cross River and North Central Igbo aren't part of the south.

ChinenyeN:
The sections (particularly the southern one, in my opinion) can still be broken down further, though, if the focus is really cultural.

It can, just like it can be broken down to the village level, but these are the broader divisions.

Uzor is a 'chi' name.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=674756.msg8386202#msg8386202 date=1306267170]all the names listed are modern, imo.[/quote]Modern as in created recently or used recently?

exotik:
lol, ezeagu, the igbos in owerri (which is actually a beautiful city) were not so different from those at ohafia. in fact, you start noticing the "aggression" the minute you cross the river niger from asaba into onitsha which is less than 30mins or so drive. once you cross niger valley, no one will remind you that you are in igboland

Have you been to Enugu?

ChinenyeN:
Yeah, I was going to say, your breakdown seems more geographic than cultural, though culture and geography are in many respects connected. I actually think you can also separate 'Cross Rivers' [Eastern] Igbo from 'Southern'.

The different sections show a significant change in culture and affiliation. The Cross River Igbo are mostly in the North east (Ebonyi and some parts of Abia).

pleep:
Is there a Benin kingdom museum in Nigeria?

Yes.

exotik:
well, as a kid i spent some of my years in ogwashi uku bendel state now delta state when my dad was posted there. and as an adult, i did my nysc in ohafia abia state. the igbos in the far east are very "aggressive" while those in the delta are  more "reserved".

Why wouldn't you think the eastern Igbo are aggressive, you were in Ohafia! Not only is that bush, but they are the archetypal warriors in Igboland. Anyway, Igboland isn't split culturally or socially only into eastern and western sections.

The culture(?) division I see in Igboland includes:

The main three:

Northern
Anambra, Enugu (Benue small communities), Ebonyi

Southern
Abia, Imo, Rivers

Western
Delta (Edo small communities)

They can be split down further to

North
True North (Nsukka, Ngwo, Enugu, etc)
Northwestern (Ebonyi, Some parts of Abia)
North central (Nri-Awka-Nnewi, etc)

South
True South (Ikwerre, Port Harcourt, Ndoki, etc)
South west, (Owerre, etc)
South east (Umuahia, Ngwa, Mbaise, Aro etc)

Western
True West (Ika, Igbanke)
West central (Aniocha, Asaba, etc)
South west (Ukwuani)

The culture most people see as core Igbo culture is North central, most internal conflict in all of Igboland is because of this group who are seen as dominating, when an Ikwerre person or an Ika says they are not Igbo, they are not necessarily saying they are no longer kin with those in the south, or they aren't brothers with those in the West.

The most distant people in Igboland are the Westerners, particularly the True West.

The most undermined culture is that of the North west, but they have retained their culture better than most.

The most cultured, in my opinion, are the True North.

The most aggressive are definitely the South east.

exotik:
this whole delta igbo / eastern igbo matter. from my own personal experiences, the delta igbos are more “mannered” and “cultured” than the across the niger igbos.

What makes you say that?

Some people may be interested in non Chi, Chineke, or Chukwu related Igbo names. Most Igbo names that are listed have 'chi' in them. List names that are rare and old in particular, but have a meaning for them as well please.

Ikenna
Nneka

Achebe - Alachebem = 'Goddess Ala protect me'
Ezeagu (real person's name) = 'King of the leopards'
Iheonukara = 'word of mouth'

. . . Do you remember the story of the hunter and the lion? And so is the history of African mistory.

RoadStar:
Anyone not bright enough to see the fraudulent activities of this man is a very gaullible person.
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- nairaland.com

Dede1:
If the aforemention work on Bonny is precursor to this post: “Bonny :: Adopted Name - Ibani/Ubani :: Original Name - Igoloma :: Named After Curlew Bird :: Now Ijo”, I suggest you hold back.

There is no ethnic group called Ijo. This is derived from Jos what the Spaniards referred to “people of river” they met at the estuaries of Rivers Niger, Benue, Imo, Urashi and Utanmiri. The same thing goes to the appellation Brass.

How are we sure that Jos wasn't a corruption of what they heard as Ijaw? Do you know if Ijaw means anything in the Ijo languages? (I'm honestly asking).

cap28:
all of you pleading for a US military base in nigeria - i hope you won't complain when you start seeing things like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TTYzakFjsU

How many did they kill? Give a Fulani genocide squad just 5 days, 2000 will be gone.

Lesson learned: leave my (user)name out of your titles.

And they go off line, wimp.

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[size=18pt]Who dat, who dat?[/size] (that little girl is cute).

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Who dat, who dat?

Okay, so you want to play? Ngwa, wait.