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[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=726494.msg8850655#msg8850655 date=1312430744]please respect yourself when you talk.


you really should know better.[/quote]Mention a line in that post that lacks respect?
What should I know better about? Bribe taking accusation or what?

lagcity:
i no understand this Ojukwu guy sef. no disrespect but the guy dey fall my hand seriously. i mean Gowon, Obj, T Y Danjuma, Black Scorpion and all him mates still dey kampe. nothin do them. i think Ojukwu should ask these guys for their secrets.

You are not wrong there, how can you understand Ojukwu?
If you do, it means you needed a degree to understand your heroes NADECO in the day and vampire at night in Aso Rock.
So the difference between Ikemba and your heroes like OBJ/Danjuma is very simple- He spent his inheritance for the general freedom of his people and your heroes stole your present and the future of your grandchildren.

Ymodulus:
I thought this man was given "autapia pia" so he can die january 13th. Ojukwu ikemba my foot. Old man

Sorry to hear that your close to bankrupsy undertaker business is in dare need of a client.
When the time comes for this legend to join our ancestors, we will likely go to a better undertaker, not the one without fridge.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=727552.msg8853359#msg8853359 date=1312461478]Alj,

Ibos don't have any hero worth respecting. None![/quote]Point taken!
We knew you prefer the Blood-Egunje takers from Aso Rock as heroes.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=727552.msg8853839#msg8853839 date=1312466019]Decomposed already so they should just let him be.[/quote]Dont worry, your long awaiting Christmas will one day come in January, but am sorry you had to wait a little bit longer. Put back your champagne in the cellar.
Talk about getting your priorities wrong. You should be worried more about more Al Mustapha bombshell than salivating on living legend.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=727552.msg8853303#msg8853303 date=1312461091]-He survived!!!

-Oh no, God take control!!

-He's kicking and smiling!!

-Chineke me!! Obi visits Ojukwu in hospital

-Ojukwu on a speedy recovery

-Mba!!! e don happen again o. CHAI!!! Another stroke


Awolowo must be having his kicks with this ojukwu story. LOL[/quote]LOL Awolowo kicking, I thought he is dead long time ago or has he been ressurected? A living dog will always be greater than a dead lion. Without Ikemba realesing Awolowo from prison in the East he would have beat Abiola to the race of dying in the hand of your northern partners. Always remember that.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=726494.msg8848119#msg8848119 date=1312398182]Eziachi

in what way has al mustapha put the entire yoruba nation on trial?

I think i've told people many times here to avoid senseless generalizations.

When you people were sharing the N5 billion windfall to get yaradua out of the way, did anyone in your village share the loot with you? [/quote]Are you really asking me?
Please use your tongue to count your teeth.
Did you noticed how many Yoruba leaders and non leaders that came out today, all protesting their innocence?
The most interesting was the statement of Olu Falea. He was like saying "me and this my friend, we did not take any money from anyone but I can't speak for others".,
Soon any Yoruba leader who did not come out to say it wasn't me, everyone will be asking- maybe its him.
Some have even started asking Oni of IFE, Arisokola Aloa to state their own innocence. It will become that everyone is suspicious of each other.
Just like Peter Tosh sang: "When everyone is talking about a crime, who was then the criminal"
So that is what Al Mustapha has succeeded in doing, putting everyone YORUBA MAN ON TRIAL.

seanet02:
Some ediotas will believe this man whose brain have been incarcerated for the past 12 years.
He is a bloody liar. 99% of the Yoruba leaders who were at the forefront of the June 12 struggle can not do such thing.
He need mental surgery to correct the brain drought that he is suffering.

Is that all you can say?
Will that be your reaction if the allegation was that Ojukwu was snuffed off by the northern boys and his Igbo brothers went to Aso Rock to collect money and keep mute? It goes to show how twisted we human can be.
If this story is Igbo related, you must have posted 10 pages by now telling us how Igbo love money but your own nation hated money.
Whether you like it or not, Al Mustapha has put the whole Yoruba nation on trial and that includes you.
OBJ must be laughing now, no longer the only black sheep of the family as they make us to believe.

How some people believed that Rauf decision not to appoint commissions was a minus to him is just beyond me.  Infact I applaud the man. The guy has shown you how wasteful your big govts are with their legion of commissioners and meaningless ministries attached to them.

Since the 8 month he governed without them, please tell me any area where he lagged behind those with commissioners?
Just look at God sent/annoited Jonathan with half a century number of ministers and countless of advisers but what they can come up first was executive tenure elongation as their first priority.

Suddenly BEAF whom I think in real life may be one of Jonathan's lackies has surfaced probably to sell the latest dummy to the ever willing and gullible Nigerians again, just like they sold few months ago that you're voting Jonathan and not PDP and millions of never learned idiotic Nigerians bought it.
Welcome to Fresh Air.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=722321.msg8803071#msg8803071 date=1311796761]I don't think the idea of 6 year terms is a bad one. But I think that GEJ should be unable to benefit from it. Let the law kick in in 2017, or something.[/quote]If you take away the prospect of re-election by the incumbent, you are cultivating trouble. Just mirror the scenario where the likes of Ohakim, Akala etc where given a single six years term? Knowing that they are not coming back, you can guess what they will do. Despite their rigging, the fear of re-election keep some sane to some extent.
Jonathan is looking for third term through the back door. How on earth will this bill be his greatest concern at this particular moment with everything going on around him? Its beyond joke, even by Nigerian standard.

fuke:
I knew for long and I said it.

Nothing good will come from this man

He is wasting precious time on nothingness.

Next step. The lawmakers will beg him to be the
first beneficiary of this elongation and he will accept
in the interest of Nigerians.
Doom.

Please don't kill me with laughter with your bolded.
Not only the lawbreakers will beg him soon, but your food is ready royal fathers will be falling over themselves begging him as they once begged Abacha.
Funny in Nigeria, nobody ever likes any position himself, they always claimed to had been begged and they never tend to say no thanks either.

This is the only one reason I love Nigeria, her daily provision of some jokes and laughter’s at all time without let up.

You people nicknamed Yar Adua Baba Go Slow, you have now got yourselves BABA-HOLD-UP with clueless Jonathan.
So what his godfather OBJ tried and failed is what he had decided to baptised with another name and forced through the back door. So in full basket of Fresh Air, he thinks that is number problem in the clueless Nigerians that voted him scale of preference?
Can you imagine this law applying to Ohakim in Imo for example? What he would have done, knowing there is no re-election at all?
A Texas man said that “Aren’t Seen Nothing Yet.

It took him almost 5 years to realise this? What for instance does ministry of Women affair does? Science and Technology along with education, what is that all about? Chieftaincy affairs? Give me a break!!

Big Meat:
If by going with what he did when he came in through the back door in 1984, I think things will have improve a bit in certain areas of the country, notably the National Assembly.

Coming through the back door was legitimate then and that include Rawlings, our hero in Ghana. Depending of how old you were in 1984, millions of Nigerians trooped to the street to celebrate that back door entrance.

Rgp92:
If Buhari had won? Im glad he didnt. He'll be even worser than GEJ!! no to another military ruler

There is more than Buhari/Jonathan in that election and you still voted from among the worst? Military ruler? You didn't care to mind about OBJ, David Mark, Jang and many other former military rulers. You guys should stop this cherry picking random memory exercise.

macjive01:
sorry, but where the hell is this man getting all these moneys he is spending

free education,

maintaining and signing on Ohakims dream ideas and paper contracts

now paying off pensioners

all within two months

If you cut out many unnecessary expense, trimmed down number of meaningless ministries/parastatals and their commissioners, get rid of ghost workers, spend more time at home than running around Abuja, you will be amazed how much money available.
This same cash paid out will go back into the economy as the recipient spend it within the same economy. Its not NASA science

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=715383.msg8743694#msg8743694 date=1311043923]Interesting, celtic, irish, german and[b] ethiopian. Why did you adopt her?[/b]I take this as a challenge from Nigerian men. All these foreign women. Thank God I've shed my "nothing but nigerian men" mentality. I hope more Nigerian women abroad come to their senses as well  [/quote]Not really my idea from the start as an African, you know western type of adoption is not our way, if know what I mean. It was my mother inlaw, who used to work as an unpaid executive with the CARITAS. She was visiting some orphanage in Ethiopia with some staff of CARITAS when she was introduced to my daughter, who was only born a couple of weeks earlier and abandoned on the street.
When she came back she couldn't stop talking about the little girl, until my wife started to think of adopting the girls but to leave her at the orphanage but just that we will take care of her material need monthly.
At first I was scared, as I haven't even had a child of my own at the time, but I was later convinced, I then decided that we should bring the girl to Britain and raise her by ourselves if we are to adopt her rather than giving money for her to be taken care of.
How are we sure that the money will be judiciously used on her? I was now thinking as an Igbo man now- we tend to count our pennies .

That it how it started and it took about six months for everything, especially the paper work to go through.
But I love her like my own and a year and half later my only biological child (my son) was born. We gave her an Ethiopian,Igbo and Christian names. She is now a beautiful matured happily married woman with 3 kids with a superb job with Al Jazeera in Kuala Lumpur.

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Ok! I think actually we are on the same page but on different paragraphs
Enough of this now. Lets get back to Fayemi's & co's good ideas.
Physically tired now. Bed time. Have a nice evening all.

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What exactly are we both talking about? I am getting confuse really. Knowing about something exist is not the same of having a seen, hold or had a dealing with it. I did not said that the Scottish people in the 70s knew nothing about black people, but many have never seen or met one in fresh, that is what I said.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=715383.msg8743192#msg8743192 date=1311032595]Eziachi what race is your adopted daughter.
Frankly, i dont find the rest of your story too unusual or engrossing, no offence.

Scots and irish have been in africa and been mingling with blacks long before now. For centuries as a matter of fact.

The whole carribean speaks with an irish brogue or scottish lilt.[/quote]On the bolded, the answer is Ethiopian.
I wasn't trying to engross you by any means. I think there is a big different between a Scottish explorer/adventurer/missionary's view of the world and the one whose biggest travel is to go to Edingburgh. Some young people take certain things for granded today, especially in race relationship. There is many parts of Britain today that is still 100 percent white, their closest interraction with a black man is the TV. You don't have to take my word for it.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=715383.msg8743108#msg8743108 date=1311030669]Eziachi is a really cool dude. Heh. I wish naija history had turned out a bit differently.

@lagcity: Just some article I read about people abusing bath salts to get high: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/us/17salts.html

The quote just jumped at me, so I decided to make it my signature.[/quote]I once wished the same you know. At independent, there was so much hope, but at the back of your mind you knew something terrible will happen and it did. And everything happened so fast.
Nigeria and Nigerians in 1960 were like a guy about to marry a prostitude in the hope that she will change and becomes a one man's woman, but the fear linger behind that she will go back to the street one day.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=715383.msg8742281#msg8742281 date=1311020741]I'm sure they were
I wouldnt give my child away to a Nigerian man if I had a choice too.[/quote]I am with you there about giving your daughter to a Nigerian, I gave mine to some matador from Spain instead  ,
But I can tell you that I had to work so hard, charm them, but never kiss their back side though .
Being a child soldier in Biafra helped a lot, especially with my father in-law, who introduced me everywhere we go together until his dead as a former Biafra soldier They may be Scottish aristocratic family, I am of the same from the great Igbo tribe too  

Eventually I won them over, but it took my mother law far longer to fully accept me, not until we had our son/adopted our daughter. Suddenly she calls me, son!
It was a hard battle I can tell you.
But in the end I love them to bits and they do genuinely loved me as a son, they never had.
In those days only a handful of people in Scotland had seen a black man and every Christmas was like a death sentence for me as we had to be in Scotland.
Your generation had much easy life today in many aspect.

Tottenham Hotspur/Celtic is like religion in my wife's family. You can imagine my pride, the day my fellow Igbo guy signed for Spurs as the first Sub Saharan African to play in the English top league in 1984.
His name is John Chiedozie. Do you know him?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=715383.msg8740434#msg8740434 date=1311003453]That's cool. So where did you meet her?[/quote]I met her, January 1973 at Edinburgh University. Her parents were devasted

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=715383.msg8737275#msg8737275 date=1310968569]Can I make a guess? Your dad is the Yoruba one, no?

Celtic? That's a new one. I've met Yoruba/German, Yoruba/Mexican, Yoruba/Latvian, Yoruba/Kenyan etc. So Yoruba men fit go to the Celtic side too? E no dey surprise me.

That's actually interestingly cool!! Brought up a Yoruba? awww, omo daada. I'm proud of you.

Why arent you interested? I would.[/quote]It means that one of his parent are of Scottish/Irish heritage, just like my wife.
It means my kids are Celtic-Biafrans
We learn new things everyday- don't we?

ehie:
coming from some one who sacked 5,000 workers in a day,how heartless can a person be,he should just shup up and hold a discourse with his conscience

And what would you know?
Nigerians like you should know by now that governance/govt is not in the mode of charity organisations. Their job is to collect taxes and use it in the best way possible for the tax payers. You cannot hire or keep staff you cannot afford to pay.
Only in Nigeria will you see an organisation (govt) willing to borrow with a high interest every month just to pay salaries of non productivity.
If his regional corporation ideas works, maybe your 5000 sacked workers will have better opportunities and will not be sacked afterall.
A good administrator is the one that takes hard and difficult decisions and that involves making hard choices.

I had once voted to remove my own wife from the board to save the business. We didn't speak for 24 hrs but she later realised that I was right and got over it. I could have sentimentally kept her, loses the business and then lose everything in the follow-up chain reaction that is to follow as a result.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=715383.msg8737045#msg8737045 date=1310960425]na wa oo

is this what ACN is elected to do[/quote]Maybe you haven't heard that when two hands combined to wash each other, they're much cleaner or that "two heads are better than one".
Development do not happen in isolation and at the same time, hypothetically, In an overcrowded class, pupils/Students tend to perform badly.
The Nigeria you and most northerners wanted is always the over crowded arrangement, where political pick-pockets thrive. Because such a chaotic environment is what they prefers and it best suited them.

What Fayemi is saying is nothing new to me as a person. Because I had been saying it for the past three years here that Nigeria as its presently structured will never work.
The present structure encourages this unfounded fear that without oil the north will die, so anything involving regional grouping down South tend to set their pulse racing, because they think it one step towards losing the their addiction to Southern Oil wells .
But their own grouping? No problem!
I will like to see the Old East coming together like wise and formulate a regional development plan too.
Can you imagine a direct train linking Asaba-Onitsha-Port Harcourt-Aba- Uyo- Ikot Ekpene-Umuahia-Calabar-James Town-Awka-Owerri-Nnewi-Orlu etc?
It meant someone can work in Calabar and reside Ikot Abasi, just like Fayemi mentioned.
It means that they can pull their resources together and source for a reliable power supply.

No one can possibly hide a pregnacy for much longer as it must surely be seen soon rather than later, no matter how much you tried to cover it up,.
I think Nigeria will naturally writes its own obituary. Bravo to Fayemi and co and lets watch this space.

henry101:
When is Buhari going to sue our own BEAF too. We are waiting,
If He sues Abati, then I will sue him for inciting violence, I got evidence too,
So his brain tells him now that there is a court eeehhhh, Probably He's aiming for a world record, I think only our very precious Gani(SAM) holds the title ", lol,

Who told you that Abati couldn't be BEAF?

I think I remembered Sarah Jibril- The lady that got one vote she gave herself at the PDP auction-primary covention between Jonathan vs Atiku. Some how Sarah must recover all the dosh she spent campaigning for the one vote she gave herself.

chiozor:
i tell you, it is very sickening, no press conference, what a dumb Bottom president is this

So you really want to hear Jonathan (a.k.a Papi-Luwe) speak? You might as well call on his doctorate decorated wife to join him too.

So Abati has become another cheap Nigerian amala journalist?
By the way, has anyone seen or heard from Pini Jason? He was another critic with pen who on a first call to chop drooped his pen and joined the dethrowned Ohakim in Imo in 2007.
Give it two years Abati will come back with his pen again trying to convince himself like Adeniji, that he accepted the job for the betterment of you and I. Banza!!