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dayokanu:
Why would they kill Awolowo, A man in jail who holds no power, Why would they kill Ogunsanya Benson, Aminu Kano etc

Rather the motive for Akintola He was Western premier, Just won an election that broke the NCNC hold on power at the Center, He broke the NPC-NCNC alliance which deprived many Ibos of their juicy govt position

Why would Aminu Kano be killed was he Premier of the North, Was he Prime Minister

Why would Mbu be killed, was he Finance Minister like Okotie Eboh?

So in your best of wisdom, because Awolowo doesn't hold power, he is insignificance? Less important than Akintola? This thread was for the way forward against what was obtained at Abur which gave them more thaan the snc THEY ARE CALLING NOW.

As wise and civilise person, iI will expect you to pick bones with the Aburi accord and what paart you don't like and why? But no, it another chnce for Igbo vs Yoruba,
Since you were so much digusted about who died during a military coup, why wasn't the same anger shown when Danjuma came to your backyard and murdered the governor of western region.
Am ready for meaningful discussion and debate but for conspiracy theories, not interested.

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Chai!! When would the likes of High Chief and co stop embarassing the rest of us Ndi Igbo. . .


Biko Dayo, for the sake of the millions of Ndi igbos like myself that have moved past that war, do not answer him anymore. .

The funniest one I heard was that Nzeogu was from Kaduna and was not an Easterner.  https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing021.gif[/quote]Are really Igbo? Or one of those- my popsie said we are Igbos type?
Interesting you are Igbo! I must be Somalian then.
Who is the president of your Town UNION? Hope you are up to date with your town development levies and that of your age group?
There are responsibilies of being an Igbo man, no matter where you reside or how long you been away.

aribisala0:
Awolowo was not killed because he was in Prison!

You hate Igbos ! You are a tribalist.
How dare you challenge the DEIFICATION of Ojukwu Christ INCARNATE? Guess why ? YOU HATE IGBOS

Can we have another song please?

Hurray!
So you were aware that chief Awolowo was in prison? Where exatly was he improsoned? Inside the heartland of the same East whose sons were sent out by their kinsmen living in the north to go out exterminate non Igbos.
Shouldn't Chief Awolowo had been their easiest prey since under their clutches in Calabar/Isiekenesi?
Tell us more why others like M.T Mbu, Adeniran Ogunsanya, T.O.S Benson,  Aminu Kano, Kam Salem, Kogbara etc wasn't killed?  As you seem to be there holding candle for the coup plotters during plot. The day you will remove your tribal thinking cap, you will learn the collective punishment for any sort of action is not acceptable in a sane world.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=877893.msg10258286#msg10258286 date=1330010575]You, of all people should know that you cannot hide under the guise of democracy and freedom of speech, while announcing to the world that your country should be thrown into chaos and war which would result into the killing of thousands, if not millions of your citizens.

There is nothing democratic about attempting to incite violence, you should be jailed if you go to a packed theatre and yell, Fire!!  Madam should be locked up, shikena.[/quote]Sorry Sir, the word divorce is not the same as war or chaos. The use of fear as a weapon of keeping Nigeria one for the benefits of its owners/reapers doesn't work anymore. Even the most skeptic are wising up at last.

I wish Madam Briggs and her ambition, all the best and I hope that she and her people succeeds but please she should left Igbos/Biafran people out of her ambition of a new united country that will involved Ijaws and Igbos.
No chance in abyss for that.

Ijaw alone is big enough to be on their own as many nations in the world are less than a million people. Again may she succeeds without us, we are just happy to be peaceful neighbours.

dayokanu:
The more you try to cover up you more ridiculous you sound

Who is Unegbe?

Unegbe is a human with blood, a father,son, uncle, just like Balewa, Akintola and other victims of the military coup (yes not civilian coup)


You killed the Premier of the North, You killed Premier of the West, what happened to the premier of the East? Oh they forgot, He wasnt corrupt, corruption was the exclusively in the West and North.

[/quote]Who is this who that killed this person or that person? Easterners held a referendum to sanction the killing or that is your sensse of collective punishment? Just as Diya consulted your family when he wanted to overthrow Abacha?
The likes of Babangiada Aliyu and many other northerners has said they would have acted like Ojukwu to save his people but a fellow so called southerner who want me and him to form another new country, said they deserved it. I rest my case about southern republic dream of some fools.

Meanwhile Okpara  was welcoming Ifeajuna 48hrs later for a job well done.

That how much you knew, Okpara himself was a target of the coupist but was save by the visit of the then Yoguslav premier to the Eastern Nigeria.


Lets go to the federal level, You kill the Prime Minister number 1 man, you kill the minister of finance number 3 man but somehow miraculously the number 2 man (the President) in the middle escaped.

Again I asked you who is this "we" and "you" that killed. I don't know becuase neither me or any member of my family, including my only uncle that died with his pregnant wife and two children in Kano knew?  Why Akintola was killed but Chief Awolowo wasn't, Why Ekotie Ebo was killed while Kogbara, M.T  Mbu was spared, why Joseph Tarka was left alone to live. Maybe you should tell us since you were there when they planned the coup. Why in the second coup they went to the Western region and killed their beloved Governor and his guest in a cold blood.


Yet you want us to believe an inconsequential Unegbe was killed, Before the coup, what was the role of Unegbe?

What political role did he hold?

Was any Ibo political leader killed during the January 15 coup?
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In the second coup Danjuma and others went into the heart of Western region, dragged out their Premier and guest and murdered and you kept mute, is it because your governor is inconsequential, according to your warped theory of HUMAN relevance.
Only a Man capable of mass murder himself will think that any life is inconsequential because your blood brain had been tainted/twisted by Nigeria biggest obtacle to  growth- TRIBAL BIGOTTED HATRED

[quote author=Ji_sun_pack link=topic=876994.msg10254453#msg10254453 date=1329976443]This is problem i have with people who see nothing wrong in drawing sympathy by claiming to be innocent. Did you by any chance see me justifying the deaths or disputing those figures?[/quote]You seems to fight in an empty room or fight to embark an empty bus. You say many thing without one single solution to the problem of Nigeria. I believe that implementation of signed Aburi historic accord will solve Nigerian problem including Boko Haram, 2015 presidency etc. You can disgree with me, that is part of civilized debate on issues, I don't mind at all. But What is your own idea? None. Just happing on things you knew very little about, just spewing your tribal faeces without let up.

Dude, first world war started by a single gun shot and before the rubbles of the dust settles down, guess how people were killed/became victims. When you set out to kill prime minister and some prominent politicians, you shouldn't be expecting tea party reaction . What is more annoying is that, you went ahead poppin drinks all the major northern cities like Kano. This absurd! [b] Afteral sardauna alone worth more than 10 million souls of Igbos to a typical northerner (from my own knowledge).

[/quote]Like I said, you spew hear say coloured by hate and prejudice thinking it will serve your sole purpose of hate. This was a decade when news was not as speedy as it is today, when you get the result of a footbll ball well after three weeks of it being played, but you seem to have this in your head someone popping champagne. Where did you get this news, probably radios without battery of those day or your tribal bigotted village of a teacher, whose Idea of Lagos is foreign.

so dont bring figures when talking about crisis rather i would indulge you to accept responsibility and closed out the leaks(if possible) by organizing an all inclusive round table discuss, capable of emancipating ALL from this current mess. I shrill when i you try to justify the ill fated Biafran invasion.

It make you wonder that in this age of so called ipad generation people thinks from their anus. That Thousands of Igbos and others deserved to be butchered because some people they knew next to nothing planned and executed a coup, therefore they deved it. If carry your line of opinion,, then Gideon Orkar, Great OGBORUS PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXTERMINATED FOR THEIR COUP AGAINST IBB. Why not, middle Belt should have been wiped out when their son Dimka killed Murtala Mohammed. Or a bit closer to home, Abacha should have wiped the Yoruba race out when their sons, led by cry Brig Diya planned to killhim (according to him)

OK. Why then Ojukwu himself let go the Biafran ideology if he truely believes in it? He had chance of pushing for a  UN resolution or peaceful actualization of Biafra from his to return to death spanning more 2 decades.
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Well I can see how much support you are giving the likes of Uwazuruike that has the same Biafra ideology or are you one of those shouting treason and lock him up and throw way the keey. Hypocrites!!

Let it GO!! Bring on table what is inn for North,West,South South,North central and middle belt and see whether Nigeria wont be in history with 2 months. Rather you choose to be harping on Aburi kangaroo arrangement between a power drunk(Ojukwu) and a nutcase called Gowon!

It shows you never even bother reading what you are commenting, because if you did, you will notice the number of delegates at the meeting and whom they are and who was thhe host. And in 2012, the likes of Soyinka, Fani Kayode, Onolakpo Soloye, Enahoro BEFORE HE DIED, ALL WANTS US TO GO BACK TO ABURI ACCORD TO HELP NIGERIA. By the way, Gowon is not a nutcase, he was a nicer man than we thnk but was misled/manipulated by tribalistic older advisers who used him to achieve their long held hateful orgies.


*Am typing with my phone.
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Who cares?

[quote author=Ji_sun_pack link=topic=876994.msg10252840#msg10252840 date=1329943868]@OP
Abeg make we hear word. Biafra was a bigh hoax build with greedy intentions, little wonder you Igbos are the only ones seeing the lbenefit of Aburi rubbish. Why can't you just relocate to south east? Oh, i forgot South South oil must be included abi, thieves.

Your greediness has been laid bare for all to see, so no amount of name calling the SW can change the fact Ojukwu power drunk and by extention SE are greedy and full of deciet.

BTW why are you afraid of all inclusive separation like SNC if you have no hidden agenda. Na only una get sense pass. Una never see anything yet. Aburi ko, Abori ni.[/quote]Don't we ae ready nexxt tomorrow to relocate to the south east but not on your own terms. You will be tired to see our faces. Only idle minds in this 21st century stil thinks that oil is the opium of a great nation. How many great 7 industrial nations depended on oil wells? Mind you, Imo, Anambra, Abia and many iGBO TOWNS IN RIVERS, CROSS RIVER AN DELTA HAS OIL IN ABUNDANCE if your arguement makes any sense.
That is why so many Nigerian (Igbo, Hausa, Yoruba etc) low minds are against implentation of Aburi accord, because they are o drunk on crude oil.

Since I posted this issue, I have seen and read other versions of Aburi accord and all I can deduce was that while the language colour was slightly different, still the main ingredient and content remain the same. But trust NIGERIANS they leave the flesh and pick on the bone, something they inherited from day one.
Give a starving Nigerian a hot delicious bread to devour, he will start worring about the kind of oven used in baking it first.
One minute they wants Odua republic or soutthern whatever republic but jump into the lagoon once they heard about Biafra. The killing of thousand of Igbos and other southerners doesn't warrant Ojukwus action but the same people cried blue murder because Jonathan posted soldiers on the street of Lagos.

They wanted Nigeria to burn because MKO Abiola ws denied the presidency he won fair and square but Biafrans that peacefully left because they are killed left and right killed the pope.
Ojukwu was a coward for living in exile and to allow his personality no to hamper the chance of his people from recovering, but MKO who fled to the U.K after june 12 because of the threat to his life is a hero. When the psycho called Abacha was in power, all you heard is the cry for SNC but immediatly OBJ took over, the call/clamour disappeared for 8 years and surprisingly the called returned immediately Yar Adua took over and got much louder as soon as the Ijaw fisherman took over.
That is the sign of a nation going nowhere- steady INCONSISTENCY.

KINGwax:
nicely elucidated. So much brain dn d OP whom in his case is so obsessed wit their leader and painted him a better man.

ONLY a fool is not happy to show off his worthy asset. Time, events etc has proved that Ikemba is a one-off good asset whom very human with non tainted Nigerian tribalistic blood should respect and be proud off.
For his visionary, no stealing from the masses but rather gives his to the masses. In a wonderful land called Nigeria, that is not tolerated.
Ikemba won't be the first or the last leader lovers of good thing should obsessed with, it part of human character. For once, a prophet is being recognised in his own land and foreigners like you are not happy about it. Its not our fault. Am also obsessed with another visionary man called Ayodele Awojobi.
Sorry, no apologies.

bjdon:
It would seem it is Igbo people who contiune to wallow in self-pity and hatred for everyone else. Get over yourselves. Every tribe in Nigeria has blood on it's hand and has offended others. The only question now is how do we move forward and maybe, just maybe hand over a developing stable nation to our children. Give the victimhood a rest please.

Its a known fact that no one like been reminded of their folly and its understandable when it gets on their nerve. Dress the issue based on what was in the post and not your well known feeling about Igbos. Moving forward in Nigeria is what we have heard for more than 50 years but you still haven't moved a metre. Your idea of handing any sort of Nigeria to your children is like giving them a scorpion for a birthday present, as the one your fathers handed to you is in a mess.
Victimhood? Naaa! We are just happy to remind you lot, about the Nigeria you and your fathers created, just that you prefer that we keep quiet and join the useless mantra of moving forward. But Aint gonna happen.

nagoma:
History according to the Igbos ? "  Ojukwu used his superior intelligence to,  "

Very objective indeed! No one will take a second look at this  recycled crap.

How funny no one will take a second you but the you the writer did took a second look, hence you bother to post a reply. The same people romancing now of getting rid of northerners or even having the cheek of calling for a Southern Nigerian republic. Not long ago, the slogan was: "One indivisible nation" "We have no other nation except Nigeria".

BlackPikiN:
Oga Eziachi, Hw body?

HappY New Year o.

Body is still inside the clothe. How about you, hope you are keeping well?

aribisala0:
really incomprehensible verbiage. keep it simple and intelligible

Simplicity is in the intellect of the consumer, while intelligent, you dare not recognise even when lodge in your nose. Excuse is the is food for low unrepentant sardists. Hence the word or point you can recognised as important from the whole point is simple, MINUTES!!!!!!

I published this few years ago and decided to publish again because of the the recent glamourous call for SNC by every Dickson and Harry, especially the socalled southern Nigerians. I cooled off from this Nairaland for whhile for personal reason but had to post this again to remind young Nigerians especially "Yoruba" who use every excuse to justify the mistakes of their father between 1966-70. The salt of a an is based on realising your folly and correct it, instead of wallowing on it because its too hard to say that I was wrong.

Its painful to me personally when this socalled southerners jaundice on their call for a SNC or shamefully romanticing about a possible Southern Republic of all sorts and then in another issue , they will disrspect our noble Ikemba and all Biafrans (Not just Igbos).

Its no secret, Nigeria of 2012 was a creation of those that use to happily call themselves Northerners and the Yorubas. Why they are not in love with their on creation today baffles me. They started with their creation of states, which was a big mistake but its original intention was to divide and rule the former Old East and was very successful using the lies of Enahoro, Saro Wiwa and Ed Clarke etc, but later it becomes a tool of stealing oil wealth that belongs to to other people.
Those with conscience will read this Aburi's minutes and thinks like humans, while others, very predictably will read and behave like typical Nigerians, bury their head in the sand of tribalism and wallow in their ignorance

aribisala0:
Well Awo was not a soldier so I would imagine and certainly hope that Ojukwu was a braver man as far as military issues are concerned.


I do not know that Awo was the first . I know that many did before Ojukwu for the simple reason that they were  older than him


There were many others particularly from ethnic minorities who expressed their own concerns. Ahmadu Bello expressed his own views and it is well documented how these issues posed challenges for securing independence.

Nigerians have known for a very long time that we have problems. People differ on how to resolve them. I think you misunderstand the sentence in which I used the term "SNC"

I am talking about highlighting the issues not the call for SNC

Those like you who chose to live and die of the lies they had been told should continue. Do read the minutes of the Aburi I had just re-published as I did few years ago and judge your present from the past.

ABURI: THE “SOVEREIGN NATIONAL CONFERENCE” THAT GOT AWAY
Written/Narrate By
Max Siullon
World Re-known Historian
29th July 2003.


After Nigeria was dragged to the brink of the abyss by two military coups in 1966, its military leaders met to try to bring the country back from the brink. The meeting evolved into perhaps the best documented constitutional debate of all time which touched upon fundamental concepts regarding the balance of power between the central government and federating regions in a federation and professional soldiers’ outlook to military coups and seniority.

It was a potential breakthrough occasion. Between January 5th and 7th 1967, the memembers of that SMC. Following a second bloody army coup in July 1966, the mbers of Nigeria's then ruling military junta, the Supreme Military Council (SMC), met for the first time at Aburi in Ghana under the auspices of the Ghanaian Head of State: Lt-General Joe Ankrah. Ankrah was no stranger to coup plots as he had become Ghana’s first military Head of State after Ghana’s first President Kwame Nkrumah was deposed in a coup while Nkrumah was abroad visiting China. Ankrah was later forced to resign in April 1969 after admitting his role in a bribery scandal.

Ankrah had served in the Congo during the UN peace-keeping mission there in the early 1960s and it is likely he personally knew the Nigerian soldiers (including Ironsi, Fajuyi, Ojukwu and Gowon) who served in the same mission. The meeting at Aburi was the first official meeting of all Military Governor of the eastern region of Nigeria: Lt-Colonel 'Emeka' Ojukwu had refused to attend any SMC meeting outside the eastern region of Nigeria due to concerns over his safety.

The massacre of tens of thousands of Igbos in northern Nigeria only heightened Ojukwu's sense of isolation and insecurity. In turn, Ojukwu's public distrust towards the SMC (whom he suspected of tacitly supporting, or having a hand in the massacres) served to antagonised the SMC, who began to suspect that Ojukwu was planning the secession of the eastern region from the rest of Nigeria.

The fashionable political theory being bandied about in Nigeria today is that a "Sovereign National Conference" (SNC) should be held to resolve the country’s constitutional problems and coup plotting culture. Many do not realise that Nigeria has already had half a dozen constitutional debates - none of which has ever resolved the nagging problems which have dogged Nigeria from independence till today.

Nigeria has wasted billions of Naira on constitutional debates and constitutions that are no longer in use, and a future SNC is unlikely to discuss anything that has not already been covered in the previous constitutional debates. Ironically the best recorded of these constitutional debates was never implemented, and Nigeria has been paying the price since. To plan for the future Nigeria might do well to go back into its archives and learn from the "SNC" which it has already had.




THE ONE AMBITIOUS MAN AND THE REST OF THE COUNTRY QUOTE.

In the months preceding Aburi the SMC and Ojukwu had engaged in a war of words with the two sides trading multiple accusations and blaming each other for causing or exacerbating the crisis. The Military Governor of the north: Lt-Colonel Hassan Usman Katsina dismissed Ojukwu's confident and eloquent public statements on the crisis as attempts by Ojukwu "to show how much English he knows or learned at Oxford".

As far as Katsina was concerned, Nigeria's problem was a stand-off "between one ambitious man and the rest of the country". Throughout the six months following the coup of July 29th 1966, Ojukwu repeated his mantra that "I, as the Military Governor of the east cannot meet anywhere in Nigeria where there are northern troops". That virtually ruled out an SMC meeting inside Nigeria's borders. Ojukwu had even turned down offers to attend an SMC meeting on board a British (whom Ojukwu, and Igbos in general did not entirely trust) naval ship, and at Benin, but was finally convinced to attend in the neutral territory of Aburi in Ghana. Ojukwu's aides (WHICH INCUDES MY FATHER/AN UNCLE)were not without doubt.

Some warned him that the Aburi meeting could be a trap set by anti-Igbo members of the Federal Government to arrest or kill him. Ojukwu brushed aside their concerns by pointing out that he had received a guarantee of safe passage from Lt-Colonel Gowon, and that he had to trust Gowon's word as an officer and a gentleman. Virtually everything discussed at that Aburi conference is relevant till today. So much so that a reader would be tempted to believe that the discussion was on Nigeria's current problems, rather than over 40 years earlier, in 1967.
It is probably the best recorded constitutional debate in history. Aware that something momentous was occurring, the Ghanaians had the conference tape recorded. The tape of the discussions was later released by Ojukwu as a series of six long playing gramophone records.

In attendance on the Nigerian Federal Military Government (FMG) side were:

NAME & POSITIONS
Lt-Colonel Yakubu Gowon:  Head of the SMC*
Commodore Joseph Akinwale Wey:   Head of the Nigerian Navy
Colonel Robert Adeyinka Adebayo:   Military Governor of the western region
Lt-Colonel Hassan Usman Katsina:   Military Governor of the northern region
Lt-Colonel David Akpode Ejoor:       Governor of mid-west region
Major Mobolaji Johnson:                   Military Governor of Lagos
Alhaji Kam Selem:                             Inspector-General of Police
Timothy Omo-Bare:                          Police Affairs

Official Eastern delegation: 
Col Emeka Ojukwu   (Only):                               Governor of South East




(*Head of the SMC as Ironsi’s whereabouts were “unknown”)

Ojukwu was in attendance as the eastern region's Military Governor. The FMG delegation arrived "wreathed in smiles" and anxious to mollify their former brother-in-arms Ojukwu. Colonels Adebayo and Gowon even offered to embrace Ojukwu. However Ojukwu was still stung by the terrible massacres of his Igbo kinsmen in northern Nigeria the previous year and was in no mood to embrace his former colleagues. The contrast in the demeanor of the participants was in itself a microcosm of what took place over the course of the next two days. While the federal delegation behaved as if the Aburi conference was a social gathering to reunite former friends who had fallen out in a social tiff, Ojukwu saw the conference for what it really was: a historic constitutional debate that would determine Nigeria's future social and political structure.

Typically, western world’s perspective was focused on image, rather than on the genuine problems of the protagonists. As secret diplomatic dispatches later declassified by the United States State Department depicted the FMG-eastern region stand-off as a personality clash between Ojukwu and Gowon. According to the American perspective: "many Americans admire Ojukwu. We like young, intelligent and romantic leaders, and Ojukwu has panache, quick intelligence and an actor's voice and eloquent/fluency. The contrast with Gowon - troubled by the enormity of his task, not Bottom educated, painfully earnest and slow to react, hesitant and repetitive in speech - led some Americans to view the Nigerian-Biafran conflict as a personal duel between two mismatched individuals".

As they were busy fighting in Vietnam and fighting a "cold war" against the USSR, the Americans did not become militarily or politically involved in the dispute. Instead, treating the conflict as one falling within Britain's sphere of influence.



THE REUNION OF FORMER COLLEAGUES

The Ghanaian host Lt-General Ankrah made a few introductory remarks and reminded his guests that "the whole world is looking up to you as military men and of there is any failure to reunify or even bring perfect understanding to Nigeria as a whole, you will find that the blame will rest with us through the centuries". 

Ankrah added that although he understood that the eastern region/rest of Nigeria stand-off was an internal matter for Nigerians, they should not hesitate to ask him for any help should they feel the need. Although Commodore Wey played an avuncular role, the discussion revolved around the younger Colonels: Adebayo, Ejoor, Katsina, Ojukwu. and Gowon.

Ojukwu showed from the beginning that he was prepared for serious business. He arrived at the conference armed with detailed notes, and army of secretaries. The extent of Ojukwu’s pre-preparation is shown by the fact that he gave the other debaters copies of documents he had prepared in advance, which enunciated his ideas. The other debaters should have realised at this point, that something serious was going to occur. After the hostility and bitterness that preceded the Aburi meeting, the civilian observers were stunned at the camaraderie displayed by the military officers. The debaters threw off formality and addressed each other by their first names: "Emeka", "Bolaji", "Jack" (nickname of Lt-Colonel Gowon) were thrown around as if addressing each other in at a social gathering. One of Ojukwu’s secretaries was amazed to observe that “the meeting went on in a most friendly and cordial atmosphere which made us, the non-military advisers, develop a genuine respect and admiration for the military men and their sense of comradeship. The meeting continued so smoothly and ended so successfully…, that I for one, was convinced that among themselves, the military had their own methods”.

Ojukwu decided to show his good faith, and to test the good faith of the others by asking all present to renounce the use of force to settle the crisis. Ojukwu's motion was accepted without objection. While this request by Ojukwu may sound very noble, he was in fact playing a cunning soldier-politician. Ojukwu (despite his boasts of the eastern region's military prowess) realised that he could not succeed in a military campaign against the far more heavily armed FMG. By getting them to renounce the use of force, Ojukwu was trying to negate the FMG's military advantage. For he knew that if the political situation eventually got out of control, the FMG would find it difficult to resort to a military campaign having already given their word that they would not use force. This may have been an influential factor in Gowon's subsequent reluctance to engage the eastern region in a fully fledged war.


POLITICIANS

The assembled military officers struck a chord in unison on the subject of politicians. All of them voiced their contempt for the behaviour of civilian politicians whom they blamed for the wholesale bloodletting of the previous years (ignoring the fact that more Nigerian civilians had been murdered by politically motivated violence, in the one year of military rule so far, than in the preceding five years of civilian democratic rule). Commodore Wey slammed the point home rather forcefully when he declared that "Candidly if there had ever been a time in my life when I thought somebody had hurt me sufficiently for me to wish to kill him it was when one of these fellows [politicians] opened his mouth too wide".


IRONSI’S FATE

Despite Ironsi’s murder six months earlier, no public announcement regarding his death had been made and his whereabouts were still presumed unknown, although most of the SMC definitely knew he was dead. Gowon’s regime had eerily repeated the mistake made by Ironsi himself: failing to publicly acknowledge the army officers killed in a coup d’etat.
By not announcing Ironsi’s death, Gowon also made his own position tenuous and gave Ojukwu the opportunity to reason that since the Supreme Commander Ironsi was “missing”, only the officer directly behind Ironsi in army seniority could replace him as Supreme Commander. Major Mobolaji Johnson encapsulated the issue that the east was steadfastly refusing to recognize Gowon as Head of State while the other regions accepted him (albeit tentatively in the case of the west): “The main problem now is that as far as the east is concerned, there is no central government. Why? This is what we must find out. …, For all the east knows the former Supreme Commander [Ironsi] is only missing and until such a time that they know his whereabouts they do not know any other Supreme Commander. These are the points that have been brought out by the east.”

Ojukwu demanded that Gowon make a categorical public statement on the fate of Ironsi. Ejoor supported this by flatly requesting “we want to know what happened to Ironsi and Fajuyi”. Despite Ojukwu’s request for an announcement, most, if not all the participants already knew that Ironsi had been murdered. But the surprising fact was the silent of the Yoruba personnels in the meeting , knowing the fact that their brother Fajuyi was also declared missing.
Gowon was informed of the death of Ironsi and Fajuyi not long after they had been killed. Gowon’s ADC Lt William Walbe was one of the junior northern soldiers that led Ironsi and Fajuyi into a bush alongside Iwo road outside Ibadan and murdered them there. Colonel Adebayo had ordered a search for their bodies, which were eventually discovered by the police. The head of the police Kam Selem would have been informed when his men discovered the bodies.

Although Ojukwu was several hundred miles away in the east when Ironsi and Fajuyi were murdered, he likely would have had the story of their death relayed to him by one of Ironsi’s ADCs Captain Andrew Nwankwo who was captured along with Ironsi and Fajuyi but managed to escape moments before they were shot. Nwankwo eventually managed to find his way back to the east.

Commodore Wey acknowledged that all the debaters already knew what happened to Ironsi. Ojukwu simply wanted Gowon to publicly acknowledge what the SMC members already knew: that Ironsi was dead. Ojukwu later acknowledged that “I heard the rumour that he [Ironsi] had been assassinated, so I began making contacts because I wanted to force them out in the open so that we could start dealing with the real situation.”

Gowon agreed to make a public announcement, and Kam Selem concurred, although he counselled that “the statement should be made in Nigeria so that the necessary honour can be given”.
The soldiers agreed to make a public statement formally announcing Ironsi’s death shortly after they returned to Nigeria, and at this point, the microphones were switched off and the civilians were asked to leave the room. Gowon then narrated the grisly tale of how Ironsi and Fajuyi had been abducted from State House in Ibadan by junior northern soldiers (including Gowon’s ADC Lt Walbe) standing right behind them, driven out to an isolated bush outside Ibadan and shot there.


COUP PLOTTERS: OJUKWU'S PROPHECY

When Ojukwu expressed his disgust over the murder of Igbo army officers by their northern colleagues in July 1966, Lt-Colonel Katsina interjected by asking Ojukwu why he had not reacted with the same revulsion when senior northern military officers were murdered by Igbo soldiers seven months earlier. Ojukwu now explained and reasoned that against th falsehood been spread but in January 1966, soldiers from every region of the federation (Nzeogwu: Mid-West, Ifeajuna-East, Ademoyega: West, Kpera: North) had staged a coup in which soldiers and politicians from every region of the federation (Akintola: West, Balewa: North, Unegbe: East, Okotie-Eboh: Mid-West) were also killed.
Whereas when northern soldiers staged a revenge coup in July, soldiers from one region of the federation only (North: Danjuma, Murtala, Martin Adamu etc) singled out soldiers from one region in the federation as their targets. Katsina took this opportunity to remind Ojukwu of the effort he had put in to prevent the murder of Igbos. Katsina told Ojukwu that "If you know how much …we have tried to console the people to stop all these movements and mass killings, you will give me and others a medal tonight."

Despite agreeing to attend the conference, Ojukwu was still refusing to recognize Lt-Colonel Gowon as Nigeria's Head of State. Ojukwu had defiantly continued to address Gowon as the "the Chief of Staff (Army)" (the post which Gowon occupied before the July counter-coup) in his public statements. Ojukwu was alarmed at the ascension of Gowon to the highest office in the land despite the presence of several other officers who were more senior than him (Brigadier Babafemi Ogundipe, Commodore J.E.A. Wey, Colonel Adebayo, Lt-Colonels Hilary Njoku, Phillip Effiong, George Kurubo, Ime Imo, Conrad Nwawo and Lt-Colonels Ejoor and Ojukwu who were promoted to Lt-Colonel in the same week as Gowon).

Ojukwu almost prophetically warned that allowing a middle ranking officer backed by coup plotters to become the Head of State irrespective of seniority would create a dangerous precedent which Nigeria would find difficult to emerge from in future. He told Gowon that "any break at this time from our normal line would write in something into the Nigerian army which is bigger than all of us and that thing is indiscipline, How can you ride above people's heads purely because you are at the head of a group who have their fingers poised on the trigger? If you do it you remain forever a living example of that indiscipline which we want to get rid of because tomorrow a Corporal will think, he could just take over the company from the Major commanding the company…".   

Ojukwu's warning was of course not heeded and his prediction that junior officers would in future overthrow their superior officers proved prophetic. The NCOs and Lieutenants that shot Gowon to power graduated into the Colonels that overthrew him exactly nine years later. The remnants of the same offiers, now as Brigadiers, overthrew the elected civilian government of Shehu Shagari on the last day of 1983, and later removed Major-General Buhari from power in 1985. 

Ojukwu's impassioned monologue at Aburi could serve as an anti coup plotter thesis. He continued to Gowon "you announced yourself as Supreme Commander. Now, Supreme Commander by virtue of the fact that you head or that you are acceptable to people who had mutinied against their commander, kidnapped him and taken him away? By virtue of the support of officers and men who had in the dead of night murdered their brother officers, by virtue of the fact that you stood at the head of a group who had turned their brother officers from the eastern region out of the barracks they shared?".


THE STAR OF THE SHOW

It was obvious to the non military observers of the Aburi conference that Ojukwu "was clearly the star performer. Everyone wanted to please and concede to him". On the federal side, only the Military Governor of the Northern Region: Lt-Colonel Hassan Usman Katsina, seemed to realize the significance of what was going on. Anxious not to allow Ojukwu's domination of the proceedings to continue for too long, he at one point dared Ojukwu to "secede, and let the three of us (West, North, Mid-West) join together".

Alarmed by talk of a possible break-up of Nigeria, Ankrah quickly interjected and told his guests that "There is no question of secession when you come here [Ghana]". Although the FMG delegation was keen to mollify and make concessions to Ojukwu, Lt-Colonel Katsina was hostile  and blunt than his other colleagues. He declared matter of factly to Ojukwu: "You command the east, if you want to come into Nigeria, come into Nigeria and that is that".


THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEBATE

Back then as now, each region of Nigeria was petrified of domination by other regions. No region of the federation was keen to adopt a course which would concentrate too much power at the hands of Nigeria's central government. Even Gowon acknowledged this (and unwittingly played into Ojukwu's hands) by admitting that he would "I would do away with any decree that certainly tended to go towards too much centralisation". Ojukwu pounced on the central powers theme and remarked that "Centralisation is a word that stinks in Nigeria today. For that 10,000 people have been killed” (this figure was later revised up to 30,000, and then 50,000). The clash, and ill defined relationship between Nigeria's central and regional governments has been the greatest source of political bloodletting in the country's history. It led indirectly to the gruesome "religious" clashes that resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians over the introduction of Sharia law in some northern states in 2000. It led to the civil war in which over a million civilians died. It led to the execution of Ken Saro-Wiwa after he agitated for greater self determination for his Ogoni people.

Using his "skilful histrionics and superior intellectual adroitness", Ojukwu managed to get the other Colonels to understand, and share his reasoning: that in order to keep Nigeria together as one nation, its constituent regions first had to move a little further apart from each other. Ojukwu used a metaphor to explain his reasoning: “It is better that we move slightly apart and survive, it is much worse that we move closer and perish in the collision.”

This may have been a paradox, but the Colonels accepted the logic of Ojukwu's argument. The problem then (as it still is in Nigeria today) is that Nigeria is so large, diverse and unwieldy that it is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to find a leader who can elicit popularity and a following throughout, or most of the country. Amazingly Gowon accepted Ojukwu's thesis without really understanding the constitutional implications of what he was agreeing to.

Gowon was effectively sanctioning measures which would paralyse his own powers. Lt-Colonel Katsina and Colonel Adebayo also agreed and were attracted to the concept of regional autonomy. Adebayo agreed so enthusiastically that he advocated a “repeal [of] those Decrees that were passed after 15th January, 1966 but I think we should revert to what the country was as at 14th January, 1966, that is regional autonomy”.

Ojukwu envisaged a titular Head of State that would act only with the concurrence of the various regional governments: "what I envisage that whoever is at the top is a constitutional chap - constitutional within the context of the military government. That is, he is a titular head, but he would only act where, say when we have met and taken a decision".

Having got what he wanted Ojukwu was not content with the agreement to be an oral one (even though it had been taped). He insisted that “we must write it down in our decisions quite categorically that the legislative and executive authority of the Federal Military Government shall be vested in the Supreme Military Council because previously it had been vested in the Supreme Commander”.
The reason for this nuanced request from Ojukwu is that Gowon was now the Supreme Commander. By vesting official authority in the SMC (of which Ojukwu was a member) rather than the Supreme Commander Gowon, Ojukwu could ensure that no official decisions could be taken without his consent. To signify the limited powers that would be exercised by the Head of State envisaged, Ojukwu proposed that the diluted phrase "Commander-in-Chief" should be used to address the Head of State as opposed to "Supreme Commander" (a phrase signifying immense power). The title "Commander-in-Chief" has been employed by every Nigerian Head of State subsequent to Aburi.

While the other delegates arrived at Aburi with a simple, but unformulated idea that somehow, Nigeria must stay together, "Ojukwu was the only participant who knew what he wanted, and he secured the signatures of the SMC to documents which would have had the effect of turning Nigeria into little more than a customs union".

Ojukwu managed to get virtually everything he wanted, and was so pleased by his success that he even declared that he would serve under Gowon if he (Gowon) kept to the agreements reached. At that point, Gowon arose from his table position and embraced Ojukwu.

The fulcrum of the agreement at Aburi was that each region would be responsible for its own affairs, and that the FMG would be responsible for matters that affected the entire country: a simple enough concept. Afterwards the officers toasted their reconciliation and agreement with champagne.
The federal delegation's jubilation was such that on his plane flight home, Ojukwu asked one of his secretaries whether the federal delegation had fully understood the implications of what had been agreed.

Hindsight tells us that no one at Aburi (other than Ojukwu) really understood the constitutional implications of what had been agreed. Ojukwu was obviously delighted with this - hence why he was in such a hurry to implement the decisions taken, and why the Federal Government had to renege on them.

Some have argued that Ojukwu took the SMC for a ride by using his superior intelligence to trap the SMC officers into an agreement they did not understand. Ojukwu was engaged in a constitutional debate by himself against five military officers, and two police officers, yet still got his way. He can hardly be faulted for outwitting opponents that outnumbered him by seven to one. Questions might be asked of the other SMC members of greater numerical strength who allowed Ojukwu to extract such substantial concessions from them.



A CONSTITUTION IN WAITING

By failing to implement the Aburi decisions, Nigeria missed a golden opportunity to find a constitutional arrangement acceptable to all of its constituent parts. Had even half of the Aburi accords being ratified, Nigeria may have saved itself a substantial amount of the subsequent bloodshed that ensued over the next four decades.

It is a sad commentary on the lack of progress that Nigeria has made since Aburi that the issues discussed then (over 40 years ago years ago) are still being argued over today. Back in 1967, the Aburi decisions were not implemented for one primary reason: oil.

Nigeria's greedy power brokers did not want a loose constitutional arrangement that would deprive them of the vast revenues which Nigeria earns from its crude oil exports. Hence Nigeria is glued together under a powerful central government of a type more suitable to a country with contiguous ethnicity.

Nigeria is quite simply too large, too diverse, and too fractious a country to have an all powerful central government of the type it has today. Across Nigeria, there are groups agitating for greater devolvement of federal power to the regions. Although the mantra of these groups is "restructuring" of the Nigerian federation - what they really intend is what Ojukwu wanted to achieve at the Aburi conference in 1967: a constitutional arrangement that would devolve so much power to the regions that the entity known as Nigeria would exist in name only.

Rather than engaging in another constitutional drafting/conference exercise at which will waste more taxpayers' money, and serve as a means for corrupt "big men" to get even richer, Nigeria would do well to dip into its archives and review the transcript of the debate at Aburi which is gathering dust in the national archives.

The debate transcript is sufficiently detailed to serve as a constitution in waiting. To learn from the debates and mistakes of the past may ensure a better future for Nigeria. What Nigeria needs is a "constitutional chap" of the type envisaged by Ojukwu back at Aburi. As Ojukwu said “It is better that we move slightly apart and survive, it is much worse that we move closer and perish in the collision.”






   

EZIACHI'S cONCLUSION:

This will be an eye opener for many naive young generation Nigeria that had been lied to about Nigeria. They can now see that the person being presented to them as Emeka Ojukwu is far from the real person. He was a man of vision, courageous and foresight.

My worst crime?
Let me think.
Yes! subconsciously in my deepest dream, thinking that I was a Nigerian and holding that green passport.
It won't happen again, for sure.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=811678.msg9635813#msg9635813 date=1322301368]Did he die of AIDS ? [/quote]Considering the amount of time you should have spent worrying about how you can eat today but spent in on Ikemba show how much you wished he was your father/grandfather.
If he dies of AIDS as you wished to die, its not a crime, Icons like Fela Kuti has in the past died of AIDS. Whether you die of cancer, malaria or die from your bowl of Amala, death is death and one destiny.
Often when people speak you can guess the kind of woman/man that fostered them onto the world, their background upbringing, the psycho in-balance.
A goat going to the slaughter house in November told a laughing Turkey/Chicken to worry about their own times, because Christmas is just around the corner.
Ikemba!!!!!! May almighty Jah remembers you on the day of Resurrection. Amen!

delpee:
I respect Ojukwu for his eloquence but that aspect of running away and abandoning the people he led to war to their fate still baffles me. Anybody knows why a man of courage would do that?

Who cares about your look warm respect? Whenever I hear pathetic Nigerians drowning themselves with this phrase that Ojukwu ran away and abadoned his people, you have question their real motive and sanity. The same people you claimed that he abadoned is the same people your starved to dead, seized their money and properties, made common food they eat a contraband. So what exactly is this sentiment of abandonment? So you cared for this peoples now more than Ojukwu?

Ojukwu was there from start till the end, he was a war front leader through out the campaign and not the type that sit at home giving orders. But on the eve of the surrender, our people asked him to leave because his humiliation in the hand of our enemies would have finished our people mentally. The fact that Ikemba was safe gave us the strength to recover to the surprise of those that planned otherwise.

It was the frustration of losing a war trophy (Ikemba) that is behind the usual nonesense that Ojukwu abandoned his people because they wanted him humiliated but his self exile denied them the sadistic hunger and its funny those abandoned are not the one whining but those that planned to celebrate as the parade him as a war trophy on the streets of Lagos.
At the heat of the June 12, MKO Abiola ran to London, but we don't hear the same cry of abandonment, even when there is no war going on.
Walter Sisulu, Mbeki Sr and all ANC  leaders ran away to Angola and other places to fight the evil aparthied from there, when Mandela was isolated in prison. They are still heroes to the struggle and no one had accused them of abadoning their people.
I am sure that the Hebrew history is full of Moses running away and abandoning his people or Jesus when his parents ran away to Egypt to protect him in the hand of King Herod?

You really had to laugh at Nigeria moronic mediocrity.
Celebrating the source of your suffering once again?
Till now you lot still think your problem is Mr Buhari?
Suffering and smilling still going on.
Celebrating the corrupt victory of those making you slaves in your own land all in the name of tribal hatred. One had to really feel sorry for Nigerians, after watching the earth shaking events in Tunisia, Egypt and lately Libya, stupid Nigerians are still celebrating those they should be chasing with stones.
Every generation and people surely deserves the kind of leaders they get.

Can't they distinguish the difference between Buhari as a person and CPC as a political party that went to court?
CPC should have listen to Buhari not to bother going to court after his previous experience of Nigerian judiciary's cash and carry justice.

colen212:
Why should a nigerian president wear suit? Is suit native to nigeria culture?
U should be proud of who you are. U shouldn't be ashamed of your culture, attires & food.
Wake up bro. Get rid off this colonial mentality.

So why do your so called leaders drives the latest BMW or Mercedes?
So colonial mentality only stops at Agbada but Iphone and Blackberry? Noooooooooooooo!!
Some of you makes me laugh

[quote author=okada_man link=topic=752411.msg9083238#msg9083238 date=1315227301]The day an American president or UK Prime minister wear Agbada to their parliament, ours will wear suit.[/quote]Suit is a universal designed dress of business and belongs to no nobody or culture. Its neither British nor American. A British PM should be wearing a kilt or a tight if they should stick to their own version of Agbada. American president should be going to work on Jeans.
Have you seen Japanese/Chinese rulers wearing nothing but a suit in the course of their jobs? Or do you think that they don't have their own version of Agbada?
Nigerian rulers can were whatever makes them comfortable at work (if they really do any work) but don't tell us that they will be less Nigerians or Africans if they are to wear a suit.
Its funny how the same sentiment doesn't go all the way to other area of life like Healthcare, Airplane, Cars, choiced Wine etc of which they had an addiction to Oyibo made ones instead of the opposite.
Wouldn't it be nice if Jonathan and all your 36 governors starting driving Nnewi made INNOSON Motor Vehicle (IVM) as their official cars at both home and abroad.Hypocrites.

Beaf:
Abeg, try to talk reasonably. Is Al Qaeda not a political tool? Do you really understand what the term, political tool means?
You were there too, justifying the post-election riots even when your own people were deliberately targeted and slaugtered. Keep on defending Atiku.

Every terrorist group is a political tool. Today, we have Al Qaeda in Nigeria, precisely because people like behave as if they are not Nigerians, blaming others for the very problems that you are causing.
Some Nigerians will continue arguing blindly even when the truth stares them in the face.

You seem to thrive in using sentiment to achieve your goals. Only few months ago your big slogan was Vote Jonathan not PDP. I wonder where that is at the moment?
Can you now define what you now means by political?
When you and those that believe in your theory talk about Boko Haram being political, you tells us its because their agenda is to make Nigerian ungovernable for Jonathan courtesy of northern politicians. Now you want to convince us that Al Qaeda too are not religious bigots and nuts but political tool. Al Qaeda is Political tool of who in particular?

Your propaganda during the election is well documented and you need to be reminded that the election is well and truly over months ago, its now time to deliver on the promises.
Since you had nothing to offer those you promised fresh air, you want us to believe that the Al Qaeda backed Boko Haram came into existence because of Goodluck Jonathan. Well, lets buy your theory, so tell your man at Aso Rock to please deal with it, he is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces.

Toks2008:
My question is" If Buhari or Atiku happens to be our present head of states,will there be any attacks from BOKO MADNESS?"

Whether its Buhari, Atiku or anybody, Yes Boko Haram will still be present because Boko Haram was present too during Yar Adua but restricted their venom to Borno until federal govt killed their leader and they brought their war to them in Abuja.
Northern political elite are more afraid of Boko Haram than their southern counterparts. Go and ask Atiku, the last time he slept in Maiduguri due to Boko Haram.
I find it extremely difficult to understand how even young IPOD generation can still be manipulated this way in this 21st century by this inept govt of Nigeria?

Jonathan during the last election, managed to convince you people that you are not voting for PDP but him and now he is at it again, that BOKO HARAM is all about him. His own way of directing attention away from his incompetence rulership.

Al Qaeda has infiltrated into Nigeria through Boko Haram, instead of Jonathan to start in ernest to combat them, he kept telling people that Boko Haram was political tool against his presidency and funny enough some moronic Nigerians are buying this wicked spin all over again, just as they did during the fresh AIR nonsense.
WAKE UP PEOPLE- please!!

pinkrex:
Im not saying MEND should retaliate but like seriously The Boko Haram is a sect sponsored by some Northern politicians and also supported by the Islamic extremists. They promised to make Nigeria ungovernable for Jonathan whom is from their region. Its just illogical to think their retaliation wont scare this boko sects a bit, atleast our agencies have done close to nothing

It will be wrong of me to say that you are wrong about who is behind Boko Haram but what I always ask some of you with this conspiracy theory is this:
1. Have you any evidence that Boko Haram is political and who are these faceless politicians I kept hearing?
2. Wasn't Boko Haram active and killing maybe only in Borno before even Jonathan?
3. Don't you think that Before Boko Haram, there were others like Maitasinet sect too?
4. If Boko Haram were just created in advance to punish poor Jonathan, why are they killing northern political elites in Borno who are not even in PDP?

russellino:
Their statement is not unexpected, considering the origin of this crisis. However the dissolution of the country is not the answer. If the country separates into smaller states who can guarantee that the same small circle of devils making the country a living hell today will not continue the same pattern of corruption, violence, cronyism etc that we have always faced. In 1999 I was certain that with democracy nigeria would become paradise again but everyone can see how wrong that notion was. Besides do you think such separation NOW will not claim thousands or even hundreds of thousands of lives. Strong leadership is what we need and most importantly a sovereign conferencen then we can decide if we want to stay or split

My brother life doesn't work like your bolded statement is stipulating.
If we based our lives and plans on concrete guarantee, no one will ever marry because having seen the rate of divorce by those that are married.
So too, no man will sent his child to school, how is he sure that after paying all the fees that his child will graduate?
No one will ever enter an airplane, train, cars etc having seen how many people that had perished in them since there are no guarantee.

If you carried on with one Nigeria just because you can't have a guarantee that it will be different with independent nations, then it means that you should have lived with the British rule, since there was no guarantee that Nigeria after independent will be better.
Life doesn't work like that. You have to take your chance, work hard, take it as a challenge to make it work. When people start business, there is no assurance that it will succeed but despite that, people still starts new businesses everyday, eventhough 90% of all new businesses will collapse within the first 2 years its life.
The powerful, mighty super pwer like the Soviet Union has done it- We can learn from them
Czechslovakia has done with success- We can copy them
That is life.

seanet02:
Afam please keep OPC out of this. We are not suppose to fight for the clueless president ibos stuff ballot boxes with billions of ballot papers illegally thumbprinted. YORUBAs will manage their own affairs themselves if there is need to secede which of course there is but not in liason with backstabbers. Let everybody bear his papas name please

Can you ever make a point without tribal juandice mixed with it? If Ndi-Igbo stuffed ballot boxes to make Jonathan president, what did the Yoruba did with their own votes/ballot boxes on the day?

[quote author=Ricky_Ross link=topic=744839.msg9010017#msg9010017 date=1314338867]I will not judge GEJ until at the end of his tenure[/quote] GEJ is that you?

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slimghost:
Balderdash. Are you serious? Pls answer these questions

1.During whose regime was Yussuf killed
2. How many bombings happened during Yaradaull's tenure.

You are a big joke and definitely the gullible Nigerian here. We, the southerners know better.

It funny how you threw 3 hefty question on me with an expection of an answer but ended it with calling me a big joke?

But I will try to answer your question probably with a question
1. Before Yusuf was killed was he fighting the presidency of Yar Adua or the vice presidency of Jonathan Goodluck?
2. They killed Yusuf and thought it was all over, but his supporters used the cooling period given them to graduate from bow/arrow into bombastic and with Jonathan as a weak leader who doesn't want to offend the northern elite that rigged the lection for him, they took advantage.
Mind you during Yar Adua's time, MEND were exploding bombs, but you seems to believe that their own bomb is a nicer bomb.

Boko Haram's last target before this one was the I.G of police (northerner/muslim), unless you want us to believe that the I.G of police is Jonathan's senior brother who they targeted because they couldn't get hold of GEJ? They have now bombed the UN and you are still saying its all about Jonathan.
But I will bet you my dinner that Boko Haram will still be here well after Jonathan's presidency and even more deadly unless it stopped now.

Johndoe100:
Yes well w all tolerate you cos we know that you are senile.

I had been on Nairaland years before you probably heard of it, so how can you have tolerated me?
Well, that is now a distraction, I will rather concentrate on issues rather than resorting to personal abuse or name calling like senile, just because we have varied opinions.