Uyi Iredia: Indeed faith is credulity. They both imply belief in something. However reason can't work without faith. Thing is reason seeks a basis for a belief while faith is the belief itself. I see reason and faith as being on the same pedestal. One certainly needs a basis for a belief and properly define (reason) that belief (faith).

The kind of faith most Christians talk about seems to be the foolhardy one. You hear them talking about a helper that would "sow a seed of a car or a house into their lives" as they would like to put it.Logically this does not follow and usually never really happens.Some even believe they would stumble into a missing bag of money somewhere. An SSCE holder believing he would be made Manager SPDC west. Is this the kind of faith that should be encouraged in the Church?

It think it was that way believing the fear of the woman losing her kids and husband would push her to confess and believe me to the best of my knowledge it is very real. This is one of the reasons there is a general belief that Isoko and Urhobo women don't have philandering ways.

I was having a discussion with a friend and at a point I stated that I place reason above faith when I approach life and it intrigues and he seemed disappointed and said as a Christian I'm not supposed to say that as it rubbishes my Christian belief system.

So I quoted this scripture;

Proverbs 3: 21-24

21: My son preserve sound judgement and discernment, do not let them out of your sight;
22: they will be life for you, an ornament to grace your neck.
23: Then you will go on your way in safety,and your foot will not stumble;
24: when you lie down, you will not be afraid;when you lie down your sleep will be sweet.

I also stated that these were written by Solomon(the wisest man ever recorded in the bible), but this made no difference to him.

So I'm just wondering, can we categorize faith? Is faith credulity?

Goshen360: Our faith is not meant for argument but for transformation. Most of us Christians can argue logically but we don't engage in such because it doesn't win souls to Christ and we are admonished to refrain from vain arguments.

Sometimes you get caught between people teaching twisted doctrines and you are moved to state that this isn't correct using the scripture as the standard. I have been accused of being confrontational in Church. Maybe arguing was a wrong choice of word, but I believe from discussions we always get to see things in perspective.

tpia@:
The op is a juju worshipper.

Most likely an outright satanist too.

Thank you for making the thread active again

senbonzakura_kageyoshi:

wow. just wow. you would think that these politicians woulda paid educated sycophants to come promote them on Nairaland but no. Even @ promoting themselves, they're terrible!

Wait till you see the billboard of one vying for office wishing us "MARRY CHRISTMAS"

It been there for more than a week and the fool is yet to see the error

This is a sponsored thread, you can easily notice the first few posters are his praise singers. We await more pictures of your sustainable development in Delta state. I believe someday an election tribunal would set us free from the claws of PDP.

This particular tradition is common with Isoko and Urhobo people of Delta state. Where the adulterous ways of a wife results in the kids of the marriage falling ill, sometimes resulting to death and this trend continues until the Husband dies too should the wife refuse to confess and perform the necessary rites to appease the gods/ancestors. This is taken seriously as you would even hear staunch Christians say "they no dey serve God reach there,you must go village go run the sacrifices". From my investigation I realized that this is a sexist tradition as adultery by the husband has no consequences. I also got to know this is based on a particular wine drinking rite which is performed during the traditional marriage rite where these things are said. I would love for anyone has witnessed this or have been told about this based on oral tradition to shed more light on it.

earthgreeners:

Let mumsy continue running that savings account. Im sure she can still be paying into that account...

If she would be receiving cheques in lieu of cash into the current account due to the cashless whateva (which I doubt), she can still make transfer into the savings account which would keep dat account running till you get ur TRV.

TRV_IJN: The account is ur mumsie's yeah? Then let her sponsor you in her personal capacity.you may include her biz docs as proof of her occupation but if the biz isn't sponsoring you, then the biz's official bank account statement has no biz in ur application. Work on showing ties to her and other parts to bolster your application. I believe you are good to go with ur mumsie's savings account.

adim02: @ezme since the account is ur mums than you dont have problem.Am a worker and i have current and savings account.My current is my salaries account,so what i do some time clear d whole cash in current to savings 4 at least 2weeks then back again to current which i will use come fall 2013. what your mum need is transfer from current to savings.Cash flows matters alot.

TRV_IJN: Just FYI.
A savings account isn't inferior to a current account. Important things are;
1. The account statement is for 6months as they requested
2. The cashflow shows viability (money dey enter and significant part of the money no dey 'always' comot 'quick quick' meaning say this person get 'savings' to sustain am and dependents)
3. The account is either yours or that of a sponsor (the sponsorship letter would have a statement referring to attached bank statement where bank statement is sponsor's)
4. The statement is authentic and verifiable by the issuing bank (u fit ask the bank to include a cover letter accompanying the statement)

NB: No 2 is tricky,I believe the VO's objective is to get an opinion on whether the sponsor (self or other sponsor)will have enogh funds after dealing his regular bills- 6 months is enough to say 'okay mama charly dey always spend like (average) of 100,000 per month so if e won sponsor charly, wen the normal say 400k enter every month and she comot 100k, based on history on 1/2 a year statement, do I think she go fit pay charly school fees, chop, pay house rent and other things w/out going broke? Try answering the questions it will help you. Type of account is not truly relevant

Thanks for all your inputs, they have been really helpful.

adim02: @Ezme is in the check list which say 6 months bank statement cash flow.

The thing is Mumsie has always been running her business with her savings account and now she just got it registered and with the impending cashless policy that would be hitting all other parts of Nigeria,I was suggesting she get another current account for the business but the snag there now is that it won't be 6months before the end of April when I would love to turn in my application. I would appreciate any suggestions from the House on this.

Hello House, the bank statement required by CDHC is it for the last 6months or for the last 4months?

earthgreeners:

ezme, we would both spend the next xmas in North America

This post really got me emotional..... Thanks earthgreeners, with the time and energy you have spent on this project, you deserve to be in Canada come fall 2013.

But, for now "have yourself a merry little Christmas"

Congrats to dealexad and jokzoh, timely xmas gift i must say

Pastor Kun: @All
let's stop all this confusion about 'the year Uzziah died'. Referencing to the year Uzziah died was a way of remembering dates in the ancient times. Years were tied to major events that happened around the time period becos they did not have calendars to chart years as we have it today. So if i want to reference something that happend in say 2001, i would say the year terrorists attacked america and took down the twin towers. There is no religious or spiritual meaning to the analogy it was just a reference to the date.

I agree with you especially on the "bolded". They even forget that Jesus Christ is a direct descendant of Uzziah (genealogically speaking, see Matthew 1: 1-16)

okpara ugo:

If a man expresses fear over a painting, does that make him a christian Please mind your use of words.

Christians practice a religion of faith.

sir, i'm a Christian but I don't practice it like most of you do. The fact someone thinks a picture is satanic and demonic makes the person a Christian,such doctrines abound in most modern day churches (especially here in Nigeria). Demonic cartoons, demonic hair extensions, demonic music videos, demonic hairstyles,etc

When you express fear after seeing a picture, the right adjective to use is "scary" not "satanic" or "demonic"

Can't we just appreciate art without being religious about it. Religion is a dogma it prevents you from thinking outside the box. Some Christians are worse than zombies.... everything scares you. Don't spend your life chasing shadows

@earthgreeners; ezme PG.> You have left me out of the list again...

rajsuresh: Dude ,ur punch lines are flawless!!!How long did it take u to put those words together....If u ever need some support of any sort in getting into d music industry.....scream @ me!

Approximately four hours (multi-tasking in between)...As for a career in music, maybe as a writer,I don't have a good voice so definitely not as an artist. I'm all about process engineering at the moment.

Congrats Henkyz

ifyalways: Nice piece .

The message is clear, easy to grasp but the choice of words failed to convey your true emotions. if it was meant to get pity party, it came out bland,Imo. Maybe its cos I'm just too emotional

It conveyed the actual emotions, and there was no intention of getting a pity party but I justed wanted people who can relate to it and love poetry to appreciate it

ezme: I'm applying to
University of Regina - M.Eng Process systems Engineering
University of Alberta - M.Eng Process Control
Dalhousie University(my back-up plan if the first too flops)- M.Eng Chemical Engineering
Undecided on University of Calgary- M.Eng Chemical and Petroleum Engineering

FYA @earthgreeners

I'm applying to
University of Regina - M.Eng Process systems Engineering
University of Alberta - M.Eng Process Control
Dalhousie University(my back-up plan if the first too flops)- M.Eng Chemical Engineering
Undecided on University of Calgary- M.Eng Chemical and Petroleum Engineering

Tomorrow is another Sunday, most Nigerian Christians would go to church. 95% worship their pastor and every word that proceeds from his mouth, 97% would be angry at my post. Let your bible be the standard of your Christian life.....

@mercylicious I believe your good news would come soon. I'm also specially praying for you too, because I have my eyes on Regina and I would love to have a school mother on ground already.

@earthgreeners, We dey here oh, boys still dey bomb the profs e-mail box. Little progress still

jeddyMay: wetin concern agbero with overload nw
if u guys no dat u ve internal issue with your kids, why not tie dwn with rope or somtin. because ur kids decided to be who dey r, we christians should now limit d way we celebrate the BIRTH OF OUR SAVIOUR.........SMH FOR UNA

if you can't beat them, abeg you join dem nw.................

TO ALL, COMPLIMENTS OF THE SEASON!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR IN ADVANCE.................

Madam,what part of the OP's original post suggested that we should tone down our celebration of Christmas?

I think we should discuss this from information available on the uploaded denial document.
First ticked reason; Sub-bullet 4 " Family ties in Canada as well as in home country"

Does this mean having strong family ties in Canada and no strong tie in Nigeria may work against an applicant?

I'm beginning to reason in that line as the larger reason is "you not returning after study" and "Family ties" is one of the factors for making such conclusions.

mercylicious:

I must confess, u make me smile each time u post.
Ur presence is always needed when d house is tensed. U got skills.

Abt comparing aussie and canny, I found sum posts dt is worth sharing. I hope its nt off topic though.

"You are not the 1st person to get confused between Australia/Canada and even NZ! I too decided on Ast/NZ at first and after lots of research on net, reading forums and via personal source (I've friends/ known people in both Australia and Canada), & I finally decided to go for Canada, just 2-3 months ago for studies. I'll be going for JAN 2013 or SEPT2012 intake:

Now,even though, (A) In Australia, getting off campus work from day 1, is easier as compared to Canada where one must wait for 6 months, show good academic record and then only can apply for off campus work permit and that too work is not guaranteed , (B) getting Australian student visa is a breeze compared to Canadian study permit, (C) with Australia recently introducing attractive open post graduate work permit for international students, (D)Australian economy is overall much better compared to canada,  and finally (E) Australian weather is much better and suitable for desi people compared to chilling cold Canadian weather and yet Canada is preferable(at-least from my point) because of:

1. Costs- Australia is much much more expensive. Australian dollar is much more expensive than Canadian dollar at present. On top, In Canada, in big cities like Toronto, one can manage in 900-1200C$/ month , while in place like Sydney,Australia minimum required by government which you need to show is 15000A$/Annum or 1250A$/month, but my sources say that you need 1500A$/ month to live comfortably. Also fees are much higher for Australian universities.

2. Duration of course and work permit - In Australia ONE MUST STUDY MIN. 2 YEARS COURSE of bachelor's and above for being eligible for post graduate work permit. And that too, by studying 2 years regular Masters (by coursework)(in process spending so much), you get ONLY 2 YEARS POST GRAD WORK PERMIT, compared to 3 years you can get by studying Masters in Canada. On top in Canada one can do course of most levels above 8 months and apply for post graduate work permit.

3. Chances for PR - Like everywhere, and universally what happens is, if you are talented enough, after studies, if you are able to bag a good job usually in your area of study, then you are in a right path for achieving the coveted PR status of that country (be it Canada/Aust./NZ/any other developed immigrant accepting nation). But, reality is NOT all international students can bag a job in their field and in past many immigrants spend their post graduate work permit time doing small jobs, and many even succeeded in getting PR (especially prior to June 2010 in Australia, when rules where much easier and preferable for international students) but not anymore. Now, same applies to Canada, but in many Provincial Nominee programmes (PNPs), allow international students to do a certain level of any skilled job (NOC O,A or B-- and not low level unskilled NOC C or D jobs), which can or cannot be related to one's field depending on province to province. (*For example check out ONTARIO PNP student programme, one can do any NOC O,A or B level job not compulsorily in your area of study and even started a pilot project which can get any international student passing from an ONTARIO Univ. with a 2 years Masters degree to apply for PR without a job offer!). Whereas, in Australia ONE MUST FIND A JOB IN HIS/HER AREA OF STUDY(or related occupations)( or go back after PGWP expires), which believe me, is difficult. So, if you check the current immigration rules in place and compare between Canada (especially PNPs) & Australia, you will realize that chances of getting PR is much higher in Canada than compared to Australia.

Finally,some extra info: When it comes to NZ, I've been advised that NOT to come to NZ as a student (even though NZ is one of best places on earth to settle in), bcoz NZ economy is very very small, very few job opportunities and its very very very tough to find a job in your area of study(which is a requirement for applying to PR in future), and many New zelanders themselves go to Australia for higher studies and searching jobs.

I hope, it will help you to take a decision, although I will strongly suggest to apply for Canadian universities(or colleges if in-case you are not eligible), unless of-course, you have loads of money and time!  "

Australia seems to be a very good option that we could consider, but if you watch Animal Planet/Discovery/National Geography, you would be dead scared of living there. You can't go camping, swimming or doing any other fun outdoor activity. The most dangerous specie of most animals are found there.

Congrats to everyone who has got med IV last week and Godspeed to those awaiting theirs.

Misleading story, Agbor is not even near Warri. It would cost you over #1,000 to make to Agbor from Warri. Stop giving a place a bad name just to get traffic. The fact you know most people would want to read when they see Warri doesn't mean the people living there are savages.

earthgreeners:

Research is not exclusively attached with academia. In other words, pursing a research based course doesnt neccesarily implies u wld end up an academician...
Do u get it?

I understand you. i just feel I would benefit more from a structured course-program, than doing a private inquiry in just a small scope under supervision of a very large field. Its like doing a thesis on " Effects of process PAHs absorption by activated carbon" and someone else getting a course-based Msc waste water engineering. Who do you think would be a better fit in say a water board?

mercylicious: For research based master, u might be lucky if there is a black professor in dt dept. They usually help out and with funding too if available.

The program chair actually did his undergraduate study in same university (same department) as me. So my plan is to get a reference letters from the oldest professors,who probably taught him or were his seniors or course mates, and I hope that does the magic. If possible put a call through to him apart from the formal reference letter.

PS: I need your email address

earthgreeners:

In a developed country, Research and development is the pillar of an industry....
Most of those Professor get research grant from both the Government and the private industries...

Not everyone is cut out for life in academia. We can't be pursuing knowledge all the days of our lives.